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QB & RB Rookie Preview + Dynasty Pants - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/6

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QB & RB Rookie Preview + Dynasty Pants - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/6

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But nobody is 100% perfect. What you like about Trevor Lawrence is that, as Andy alluded to, he came in as the number one recruit from high school. And then he improved every year. So you have so much tape. As we're going to talk through these other quarterbacks, not everybody has this long track record of success where he's dealt with being the guy. He's dealt with the hype. He's dealt with the media. He's overcome everything. He's done everything you wanted to see in college. So he's pretty much.

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Everyone's number one picking. And specifically on this show, we're talking about for fantasy. And while he isn't going to be the most prolific rusher, he is mobile. He will add yards on the ground. I see him as a comp to a Justin Herbert or an Aaron Rogers. That's kind of where I've got him. And I think he'll be great for fantasy because when you have that capital and that hype.

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You guarantee he's got, like if he sucks, if he comes in and flames out, you still have four years of being an NFL starter and producing something for fantasy, and he's not going to suck. So in rookie drafts, because we're going through these guys based off of our fantasy rookie rankings currently before we know landing places, are you right now very confident that Jason, he would be?

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the first quarterback you would take in a rookie pick, even though guys like Justin Fields and Trey Lance, who they have massive rushing upside, especially Trey Lance, you would still feel more comfortable going with what feels like the safer pick? Yes, because of the safety, because I do think Trevor Lawrence is probably a 10-year starter and is just a, you know, he really is, we've heard it over and over and over.

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The best prospects since Andrew Luck. But he is. He's one of those rare guys that was touted super young and has come through every stage along the way. Yeah. And in his size of physicality, the ability to run the football and give you a baseline every game. Like Andrew Luck is a good comp for him too. And.

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I guess the question then for fantasy players, because I think we're entering a new era, right, where you can be a rookie quarterback and make a fantasy impact. Justin Herbert did it last year. Joe Burrow did it at times last year. We saw Baker Mayfield do it at times in his rookie season. Kyler did it. This is no longer, you're not hamstrung because a lot of the offenses in the NFL now are innovating. And he goes to Jacksonville.

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But you don't go to the same Doug Morone offense, right? You have a renovated scheme. You have some weapons that I think we all like there. Yeah. Liviska Chanel, DJ Chark, James Robinson. Marvin. And Marvin Jones now. So how long before Lawrence threatens as a fantasy contributor? Is it a year one expectation for you because he comes out with the Capitol? Or is this something that you are?

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You're looking two or three years down the line. I think he's a year one streamer. That's how I view him. I don't think he's going to be a locked and loaded Justin Herbert. You've got to start him every week once he catches fire in the rookie year. But I think he's going to have a ton of pretty much more what you saw from Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow had some big games and he had some bad games. Burrough's an interesting player to look at in that situation because of how bad Cincinnati was. So, you know, tough division for him to go into.

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Tough team to turn around could be playing from behind a lot. That could translate from, you know, you could have a mediocre NFL season and a very good fantasy season if he has enough opportunities. Mike, how do you see it? I see, I'm with Jason that he, I mean, these are our dynasty rankings and it's, I think he's the first dynasty quarterback I would take in a rookie pick or in a rookie draft. But in a redraft, I would be taking.

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fields or I would be taking Tray Lance assuming that Tray Lance ends up as a top 10 pick because I think that they can only within a shirt starting opportunity. Yeah, yeah, of course. And I'm projecting like just the fields I'm projecting still at number three to San Francisco. So these guys and knowing that they're the starters, the people, the quarterbacks that run more in redraft. I'm more interested in them because I think they make a bigger impact right away.

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Yeah, I side with the Lawrence side. And like, you know, fields. We'll talk about him now. But if he goes to number three, you may not see the field this year. I think if he goes number three, Jimmy Garoppolo will not be on the team. I know they're saying that they got permission from the ownership to draft quarterback at number three and retain Jimmy Garoppolo, play Jimmy Garoppolo this year. Other reports are coming out saying that they're already shopping him.

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but their price is a first round pick. I don't think they're going to get a first round pick for Garoppolo, which is more than they paid to get Garoppolo. That would be quite the clue. Well, I guess you'd hope that if they made that kind of a move, they would believe that they could start that player that they draft at three. Exactly. But if they drafted a, you know, rumors abound, right? But if they drafted a Trey Lance, that player might not be ready, your one. So you have to. Yeah, agreed with that.

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Right now are consistent number two ranked rookie quarterback. But Andy? Yes. Why isn't he ever being drafted number two in mock drafts by the NFL? Yeah. That's a great question, voice of public opinion. And they like Zach Wilson a lot. They like Zach Wilson because of one throw he made in his pro day. No, I mean, there's a lot to like about both these players. I'll be honest with you. I really like Justin Fields.

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I like Justin Fields a lot. It's unanimous. Yeah, and I feel like we've gone through, like what you're saying, with the consensus out there in the mock drafts, we've gone through this period of like self-doubt where like, you know, look, it's our job to go, watch the film, analyze the destination, put it together for fantasy, even more than NFL, right? But I feel like we've done that for a while and you get a read on a certain player. And I think Justin Fields has the second highest floor.

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Okay. The second highest floor of all the quarterbacks. I agree with that. That's not to say I don't believe that's ceiling is actually higher than Justin Fields. Right now, I believe that to be the case. I think Zach Wilson has a higher high. He has the Mahomes, Rogers, find the right situation and go to MVP-type levels. That's what I believe about him, but we'll talk about him later. Justin Fields, though, is extremely talented and reliable. And everything I saw in film told me that this was...

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somebody that is going to make an impact at the next level. I told you to me, he reminds me a lot of Cam Newton, just in his stance, his pocket presence. The way he throws the football, look, he's not as big as Cam Newton, and he doesn't run like Cam Newton. But he throws better than Cam Newton. Yeah, and he's a dual threat quarterback. He's extremely accurate. He's not small. He's 6, 3, 228. And so I didn't, you know, some of these players we've talked about a lot together in the office, some we've kind of mentioned.

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in our own scouting, but you guys are both with me, or I'm with you, on Justin Fields. Yeah, I love him. His rushing ability, he is very fast and not small. I mean, the comparisons to Vic, it makes sense, but he, because they both have huge arms and can run, but I think Fields is going to be outstanding. I think he's going to be outstanding for fantasy football.

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immediately. I do think he'll be number three. It'll be the number three pick. Go to San Francisco and we'll start. And he'll be able to make an impact in that. I don't want to keep breaking down that scheme because maybe it was like drafted there. Well, it makes a huge difference. But no matter what field will be used and they will maximize his abilities. And with, you know, like with Kyler just a couple years ago, as long as someone's out there in Lamar, like as long as they're willing to rush right away, it's going to be a

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Big deal for fantasy. Yeah, I mean, really all you need to know about Justin Fields at this point.

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is that he was very similar to Trevor Lawrence, a superstar recruit out of high school. He was supposed to, you know, be one of the next great ones. He's a very, very hard worker. He's an incredible athlete. So dual threat, I think you can make every NFL throw. And when you've got that athleticism, you've got the track record of success that he has. And, you know, you combined what he does on the field with fantasy football, how that works.

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I love the future outlook for Justin Fields, and I think he's a winner. So I'm much, much more confident in him than in the entire rest of the quarterbacks. Like, Zach Wilson, you know, Trey Lance, Mack Jones, I am much more confident that Justin Fields will succeed as an NFL starter. And we don't have to worry about Fields being soft. Like if you saw what happened in a...

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in the playoffs where he took that shot in the ribs and then managed to go down and throw a touchdown. I don't know if he should have been in the game or not. But like when it comes to toughness, you don't got to worry about that with just the fields. That dude is a beast. Yeah, and I would compare his running prowess more to a Russell Wilson.

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At times, runner first, you know, I think Justin Fields is much more like Russ, where he is going to go through his progressions. You know, people have criticized him as a one-reed quarterback, and then when you break the numbers down, you know, he actually had great accuracy at a second and third read level. So I think some of the things that people have picked him apart for, you know, going to the same school as Dwayne Askins does not mean that you're not a great quarterback. On film, Fields, like I said, great floor, in my opinion.

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