Fantasy Football - Bounce Back Players + Jason's Cleavage??? - Podcast for 6/23

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data, second half of 2025. All right. Back to the bounce back players. Back to the buffet. 30.8? 30.8 years old. Which I, dude, honestly, I bet Josh doesn't even remember when he was 30.8 years old. That was a long time ago. Did you have hair at 30.8, Josh? No. No way. No? When was the actual? Like 25. Point zero? Point two. Yeah. When was the shavening, though? Yeah. That was about 30. About 30. Oh. You held on for four or five years? I wore a hat for like four years straight. Been there, brother. Oh. Well, I mean, who would wear a hat to cover your hair?

Just be careful. I realized this from the pictures of some of these golfers on tour, and we've been golfing so much that we're developing like dangerous tans. Absurd. Like troubling tans where like I'm still looks like I'm wearing my watch. Look at this. But I'm not. This is ridiculous. And Jason is. Jason's wearing a. Go to YouTube right now to see. He has a white or don't. It's a pink undershirt, except it's not. I mean, Jason's ridiculous. Because yours is a little pink. You got a little burned. Yeah. But listen, my point was, if you are. If you have hair and you're wearing and you go golf.

And your face gets tan, you're fine. You have hair. Yeah. But if you go out, if Josh goes out with a hat and golf. Oh, right, right, right. Then the top of his head becomes like my sock line. Yeah. And how do you go to a fine restaurant looking like you're wearing a white skull cap? You got it. You got to put makeup on that dome. Have somebody come out and just spray tan the top of your head. Did you did you tan yourself some cleavage? Is that what? I don't go back. Is that what you did? Let's see here.

I mean, I think you did. Yeah. It's like I got bazoongas over here. I need to wear like a just a deeper V. And I look good. Oh, man. No, you can't. We'll get flagged. Yeah. We need to keep our stay on YouTube. Bazoongas. We're going to lose our monetization, Jason. Oh, yeah. Don't demonetize us with your golf decisions. With your golf cleavage. How do golfers manage this? You just end up looking like you work on a farm or something? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Or, you know, just go to the pool. Get in the pool and balance it out a little bit.

I would never. If I'm in the pool, I'm not golfing. Let's just say this. So we're going to do some family trips here soon before the season starts. And you're like, I need to be able to take my shirt off. You're going to the Caribbean. Now, if you take your shirt off, then you'll get the tan in the spot that you need. But you want the tan beforehand. I need to pre-tan. Yeah, that's what you need. For sure. Good luck. The problem is when you even out, does it make the... I need to like... Does it always stay even? Or do you have to cover your face?

I need to get a stencil and like sunblock all my currently tan parts. Then go out there without sunblock everywhere else. I think as long as the disparity is not lobster and snow. Yeah, the issue is really how disgustingly white my skin is where not tan. That's fair. Tara McLaurin's 30.8 years old, which is... That's old. And you know he's older, but that is shocking. It is shocking. He's almost 30. He'll be 31 during the NFL season. This is why I honestly feel like Washington was in an impossible position last year. Because last year is when Terry McLaurin got paid and barely played.

So before the season, he holds out, right? And at that point, he was 29.8 years old. And they're like, this dude is the... He was the wide receiver of five. He had over 1,000 yards and 13 touchdowns. He's the go-to receiver for Jaden Daniels. You pay him. He plays 10 games. He's the wide receiver. 55! And the contract doesn't look as good right now. No. Right? No. So you paid for nothing. We knew that when... It was in one of those tough situations where because you're on a rookie quarterback deal, you can't afford it because he is the only reliable target in your offense.

You had to pay him. But they're just going to have to eat it. And it's going to be a bad contract at the end of his career. The question is... The loyalty reward? Can he bounce back? And he really needs to bounce back because when he held out to start last year, he started so slow. I mean, you're talking those first three games, he would have been on pace for 50 receptions and 800 yards. Just worthless, worthless production. And then he gets injured and was gone for most of the rest of the year when he comes back. That was like Jaden Daniels wasn't really around for a lot of those games.

So we just don't... We basically have a deleted season last year. Yeah, but he didn't have enough time left in his career to delete a season. I know. Now he's going to be playing at 31 this year. And that is usually something I don't like at wide receiver. I don't want a 31-year-old wide receiver. But I do think this could be a very good offense with Jaden Daniels. And you want to talk about an easy-to-predict high target market share. It doesn't get much easier than Terry McLaurin. And there's just no competition here for other targets. So I don't see how it doesn't work unless he has really lost it.

I don't think he bounces back for multiple reasons. We want to paint the most rosy outlook to a transition to a different offensive coordinator and system in Washington. But I think that is a challenge we see sometimes work out and sometimes be a disaster on a yearly basis. I think it's a lot easier when you have a predictability factor of like, hey, Kellen Moore's played as offensive coordinator. So we know he's going to bring a system that works. We've never seen David Blau. Beyond Terry McLaurin, we don't have confidence in receiving weapons in Washington. There were comments about Jaden Daniels, quote, having a long way to go to master the schematic changes.

There's just risk. There's a lot of risk here, I think, altogether. There's been talk of the tight ends being more involved. So that would be Chigakonquo, Mike Sky, the senator. I am the Senate. I just... Been Senate. Any day now. I just think there's no chance that Terry McLaurin is anywhere close to what he was in 2024. I... Jaden Daniels... I think wide receiver 20 is about my... That's not a bounce back to me. Going into last year, we had Terry McLaurin as a bust. It was pretty easy to see that he wasn't going to get 13 receiving touchdowns, and he wasn't really a high-volume player.

So we didn't expect it to be great last year. Obviously, with that year deleted and him now being two years older than his 13 touchdown pace, but I'm starting to actually worry more about the commander's offense. Because, you know, a minute ago, I'm like, this should be a good offense. And it's because of Jaden Daniels. When you've got a good quarterback, you're just going to assume the offense should work. We all believe Jaden Daniels is a good quarterback. He's going to figure it out and get stuff done. But when I just look at the entirety of the offense, the skill positions,

this is like, oh, we're so excited for Bill because Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt has opportunity to be the guy. But maybe it's Rashad White. But, like, maybe it's neither. Maybe neither one of those guys are that good. And we say Terry McLaurin should be okay because he's all alone. I am the second chair. What about that guy, Jay? It's going to be Ben Sinner. What about that guy? But, I mean, you know, they drafted Antonio Williams, who I think should be drafted for a lot of these reasons because they need other targets. They lost Zach Ertz. This is just – You don't like Traylon Burks or Van Jefferson or Dammy Brown or Jalen Lane?

Exactly. Van Jefferson was getting some love. That's a red alert. Yeah, it is. That is a – hold on. Oh, I just hit a bear. Never mind. Maybe this – That's a bear alert. You do sound an alarm when you see a bear. You do. And bear market is bad. That's true. But, yeah, I mean, maybe what we're saying here is less Terry McLaurin and more commander's offense. Maybe the commanders are – I just have concerns because you have to have McLaurin a year, you know, at 31, plus Jaden returning from injury, plus offensive coordinator change, plus offense succeeds with all these other pieces.

I'm sorry. It's going to be – you got you one year, and then I'm going to be against you again. I mean, wide receiver 20 is fine. His ADP is, I think, interesting. Where is it at? So, I'm seeing him right now in the back of the fifth, which – so he's right around Devontae Smith, which I don't know what's going on with the market on Smith, how we all knew the trade was going to happen, and it felt like, okay, but we're being a little bit careful just in case it doesn't happen, because Smith in the fifth just seems outrageous to me.

But it rhymes. Oh, dang, it does. That's probably why he's there. That's pretty hot. Yeah. I took Smith in the fifth. We got a Buka after that, and then wide receiver-wise, it's like DJ Moore and Mike Evans are next. So, I don't know. I don't hate it. Yeah, I mean, there's obviously upside if Jaden can get it going in this offense, and he's the only one that can catch the ball. So, but the other 30.8-year-old player, Mark Andrews. Doesn't that 30.8 feel more like 37.8? Yes. Him and Terry being the same age, that doesn't make sense. So, he went from the tight end five in 2024 on the back of 11 touchdowns

to the tight end 19 last year. Points per game dropped 3.2 points per game down to 6.3. Yet, he had three top five finishes, which is as many as Kyle Pitts had. But basically, if he didn't score a touchdown, he averaged four fancy points a game. This is no longer the centerpiece of the offense. I saw Devontae's Walker chatter this morning. I mean, you've got Surratt and Jacoby Lane and Zay Flowers. I mean, no more Isaiah Likely. But what is the case for a 30.8-year-old Mark Andrews returning to form? I think the case is rather easy to make. Not to return to what he used to be when he was going to go out there and have over 1,000 receiving yards

and be their primary receiver. He's a little old for that. But what you just said, Mike, him and Terry McLaurin are the exact same age. They were – let's just say they were born on the same day. I don't know. I don't know their birthday. But they're basically in the same month. Now I've got to find out. Athletically, you know, we're making McLaurin seem younger to ourselves as a group, as a people, and Andrews be older, which is so ironic because it's actually the opposite truth. They're really close together. As to what positions you can play longer. Like wide receiver at 31, you're going to have a real hard time to be athletically able to separate

and do all those things at tight end. We've seen plenty of tight ends succeed, you know, at 32, 33, 34. Yeah, absolutely some of their best years. So I don't think he's aged out. That's one. Two, Isaiah Likely is gone. That is no target competition. They picked Andrews with the contract extension. Yeah, they paid him, and then they let Likely walk. Three, Lamar missed a ton of games last year. He missed like four games and was injured in others. So the offense wasn't what we were used to seeing from Baltimore. I think if you have a healthy season from Lamar without Likely at age 31,

you can definitely see a path for double-digit touchdowns here. I mean, that is how he succeeds for fantasy. Where he's being drafted right now, is he even being drafted? Like in tight end 14. 14, so maybe. This is the perfect example for me of like when I'm sacrificing a running back or wide receiver to get a Laporta, when I can get Mark Andrews for absolutely nothing, just with my last pick of the draft, I would rather take the shot of that, you know, wherever Laporta's going, fifth, sixth, seventh round, running back or wide receiver. You know, but. Mike and I are not in like you are, statistically speaking.

Yeah. I mean, I've got him. Not on my projections, but I can see it. This is the least favorite type of tight end I could ever draft, which is just roll the dice on a touchdown. I mean, that's what Kelsey's going to be this year. It's not most in the sense that there are younger tight ends that can develop into better players. Mark Andrews is not getting better. That's my contention. Mark Andrews has gone from 11.3 to 9.5 to 6.3. We can make all the reasons why that's happened. We can say he hasn't aged out. That's not true. David Njoku is not the same athletic player he was when he was younger.

He's 29. David Njoku, none of us are like pining for the return of David Njoku. Right. Like you kind of see it on the field. Like he still has something to bring to the table, but not to my fantasy team personally. That's like, like I'd rather take a shot on any of the younger guys having a breakout campaign than just the touchdown, roll the dice, which maybe he is the best bet for a random touchdown that you can draft. But would you rather have Kelsey starting every week or Andrews, Jason? I would. That's tough. I mean, your numbers probably say Andrews.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't have my rankings right in front of me right now. I would put those guys very near each other. I think I would rather take the shot of Andrews with Baltimore right now. The story makes sense of Mark Andrews being the number two target. I know it hasn't played out that way, and it feels like, especially when you compound two years ago, you know, where we had the double goose gate to start the year for Mark Andrews, and it was like, what do we do with this? But there's a world where Mark Andrews has the second most targets

on the Baltimore Ravens to me. I'm not projecting it that way, but I can see it. He's been at about 70 for two straight years, I think, but he has played all 17 weeks. Yeah, that one's a tough one for me. I think bounce backs any time a player is getting older are tough for me in general because you're asking them to do a couple of things. You're asking them to kind of turn back the clock and things to work out and the team to plan around it, and there are some signs that Andrews is obviously very important to them.

I think it'll be important to Lamar that he has a tight end in general that he can find in the red zone. The snap counts for Andrews, he's never played all the snaps, but it's been down in the 60% range. Does that change back up? That's what I'm hoping. Or do they add some more pieces because the depth chart for Baltimore, you just find the next guy up. No, I'm very much hoping that the snap count is back to the 70s, 70s, where he was more dominant when he was out there 75%, 72% of snaps. I think that that's in the realm of possibility.

Doesn't it scare you that Durham Smythe is right there behind him? Correct. Wait, is Smythe there? The? The Smythe. The real one. Smythe has become a descriptor for any random white tight end that we don't know their name. Yeah. Oh, it's Smythe. Because Smythe kept stealing our touchdowns at one point. And we were like, oh, Smythe again? Get out of here, Smythe. Don't do it, Smythe. So is that a bet? Would you think bounce back, Jay, for you? Bounce back from tight end 19 to being much closer to a top 12. I do think he bounces back to being a top 12 tight end.

I think he will finish the season inside the top 12. We'll see what Declan Doyle, new offensive coordinator for Baltimore, can do this year too. Real quick, Saquon Barkley. I just want us to weigh in. I find myself wanting to answer in the affirmative. As do I. In the bounce back category. I really see a lot of reasons why he could be one of the best values in the draft. People would like to move on from Saquon. It was a really inefficient year. The explosive plays weren't there. Going in the middle of the second round, it's rare when you can draft a running back in the middle of the second round

and you can easily see an argument why they finished in the top five. And I still see that with Saquon. Last year it was like we knew the carries had piled up. We knew the playoffs had piled up. He had 388 opportunities. And we said, look, he's not going to be number one again. But the pendulum has swung to a degree now where, yes, the efficiency went down, the touchdowns were cut in half, but I still think this is the guy that's going to get the ball almost every play. And they have an offensive line that we believe in, a defense that we believe in.