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Week 3 Buy or Sell + Let’s Talk Trades, Jason Gets Snaked

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slash ballers to enter. That's Fandul.com slash ballers. It's open. Go claim your spot. All right. And we're going to start talking trade. Some questions from the Foot Clan. A couple other quick injury updates. I want to let people know. Devin Singletary with the hamstring injury. He's not practicing on Wednesday. Head coach Sean McDermott is simply labeling him day to day. I can't imagine he plays. Yeah. I don't. I don't believe so either with the way that he went down. But you just don't know. That's the current.

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rhetoric you don't play him if he's out there though i mean if he plays this this early yeah i feel like the chance of reaggravation is like i would be scared off yeah even against uh bingles yeah sucks let's move on let's talk trades now that's not new mike right is it it's mike we've played it before it's just been a while yeah

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So we took in some questions from Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and YouTube. And you guys made some trades yesterday too. Now, Jason, you made yours. Now, would you have made these trades if you had not been. Yeah, Jason tilt traded. No, you, you were reeling from. I was reeling from losing out on the trade du jour yesterday. And not only that, but so in, in our division, which is.

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my team yours andy's and then a papa josh from around here is also in there his team is unfair is unfair is absolutely ridiculous pretty strong so to compete we've got to really go hard i went after uh traded away in joku and a pick for zach ertz yeah he gave up a second round a second runner and a first rounder uh for an injured

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Tyreek Hill. So talk to me for a second about that because I think people want to know what the value of Tyreek Hill is. And I didn't really know when I was talking to this same owner about Patrick Mahomes. Sure. So the thing with Tyreek Hill right now, I looked into his injury situation. You know, you've got the four to six week timeline. But there's been more optimism lately from around the team to the tune where people are saying he's probably not going to play this week, which he's not.

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But, I mean, when you even have that conversation, they're saying he's week to week at this point already. You could have, you could have Tyree Kill back in two weeks or three weeks. And once he's back, I mean, in, you know, I think half point scoring last year, he was the number one wide receiver. We see Pat Mahomes bawling out.

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Let me ask this question to Mike, because I don't feel like at this point now that you've acquired him, you'll be able to answer this properly. But Mike, do you view, I mean, obviously a lot of Sammy Watkins' hype. Performance. He's one of the league leaders in targets. He looks healthy. He looks spry. McCallman, new addition. DeMarcolle, do you view him? Obviously, he's a game-changing challenge. Sure. But do you view him in a different light this year because of what you're seeing with a healthy Sammy Watkins in the addition to Michael Hardman than you did last year?

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do slightly like this that breakout game of demarcus robinson and look it's i know this it's just narrative street but like you the way that patrick behalms talks about demarcus robinson he loves him as a player and and then hardman as well like the fact that the chiefs have these other players that you can spin the wheel

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of who's going to get the deep ball wheel. Who's going to get the 40-yard touchdown today? And it's not just Tyree Kill every single time. Like that's going to factor in. I'm not avoiding Tyree Kill. I would love to trade for him. But I think that he has a slight amount of regression potential building in. And like each week that goes by that we see more from Hardman and the potential of Robinson is just going to factor into that a little bit more.

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And Mike, you made a dynasty trade. You moved Devante Freeman. Yeah, my dynasty squad, the starting roster on paper, it should perform. Unfortunately, it is not. So I've had to sell. And one of the owners in our dynasty league put out a message that I'm buying. And I had to sell Freeman. So I was able to sell him for a first and second round.

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rookie pick for next year. So piggybacking on that from Instagram, Max K-2313, said, should owners sell Devante Freeman while he still has value from the draft capital spent on him, or do you believe that there are better days ahead? And your trade, you're in a dynasty league, you're factoring a lot more things than just will you get a good week from Devante Freeman next week. Yeah, I didn't want to sell him because I do believe that better days are coming for Devonta Freeman. He looks, he still looks okay.

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He is still the primary running back for a very high-powered offense. I think that things have just bounced the wrong way. The offensive line is a concern, though. So another Instagram foot clan member says, what is the trade value then? He has Devante Freeman as an RB2. He doesn't know how to feel about that. How do you feel about him being an RB2, Jason? Yeah, I mean, look, I am.

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I'm more concerned about Devonza Freeman. Our better days ahead, yes, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't capitalize on his name, his draft stock, and the value of someone believing he's still going to be fine. I would like to use him, package him with someone else to upgrade at running back. You know, trade a Devonta Freeman and a quality wide receiver to try and go get a Chris Carson. You know, if you could take...

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Even, you know, John Ross or Terry McLauran, someone that you got who's just been on fire the first two weeks, maybe you package them together and try to upgrade it running back. I would do that in a heartbeat because the offensive line issues we've seen from Atlanta, that was all I was talking about at the preseason. And I was like, I know it's preseason, but they just look like they don't exist. Matt Ryan snaps the ball and he's got three guys in his face.

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is really hard to have a successful running game without an offensive line. And the only way that that's overcome is by the targets. And the passing game work hasn't been old school dominant for Devont Freeman like it was. He'll have better days, which means people will trade for him. I think a really interesting kind of comp here is to look at what David Johnson has done inefficiently with a bad offensive line. If you look at since the beginning of 2017, there are four players.

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with enough qualifying carries to fit into this category. There are four players at 3.6 per carry. So Garrett Blunt, not a good start. And David Johnson's in that category as well. I think the other was Doug Martin. Oh, crampus. But, you know, David Johnson's played with a very bad offensive line for two years. Now,

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You can flip that and say, okay, yards from scrimmage changes because David Johnson is heavily involved in the passing game to compensate for inefficiency in the running game. If you don't involve Freeman enough, you're not going to have enough value. And I think that that's what you're seeing a little bit right now. Here's some carry-on Johnson questions we've got from the Foot Clan. Twitter, would you trade Sony, Michelle, and Miles Sanders to acquire Carry-on Johnson in a standard-scoring league? That is a gigantic no for me.

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That's a no for me as the Carriott Johnson owner, especially in a standard league. Not that it would really change in a PPR, but in a standard league, touchdowns are king. And Sony's going to have the most touchdowns for sure, far more than Carriott Johnson just based on team projected scoring. And you could argue that over the course of the season, Miles Sanders has every bit of option to get as many touchdowns as Carriott's does.

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Yeah, there's no way. I was going to simplify that. In a standard league, would you trade Sony Michelle for Carrion Johnson? Straight up. No, not in a standard league. In a standard, I would trade Carry on for Sony. Here's a question about trading Carry on Johnson away, a couple of them. Austin, Jacob, asked these ones. Carry on Johnson, would you send him away for Sammy Watkins? No. Assuming I have running back depth, because that's the only...

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That will factor into all of these things. If like you're looking at your team, you're like, I've got three solid running backs. I'm going to trade one. That's a mistake because you're, you're toast then if any kind of injury happens. So if you actually have depth, then yes, I would trade him for Sammy Watkins. In general, I think that they are about the same tier as one another. They could both have big games. They could both disappoint. I would rather have the running back. Would you trade carry on for Joe Mixing? No.

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I'm a know in that category as well. Interesting. I thought you might be on the mixing side. Yeah. Got mixing concerns? I just have mixing ceiling concerns. And so I'm more interested to see what carry-on can do over the course of the year than, you know, mixing dealing with the injury and things like that. Mike, you're making some grimacing faces. That face. I have to report on that. That face was, like, I know it's been rough and that Joe Mixing has a bum ankle right now.

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Joe Mixon is running for a sensational 1.59 yards per carry. 17 carries for 27 yards on the season. There's really not a difference between, I mean, Joe Mixman situation, Devante Freeman's situation, offensive line concerns. We just kind of saw Joe Mixon overcome those last year with the bad offensive line. Looked good in the preseason. I think there are brighter days ahead for Mixon, just like I do Freeman.

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I think I would lean on the carry-on side. Yeah, I agree. I'm going to take the healthy guy right now. That's all it is. Yeah, take the healthy guy with somewhat of an offensive line by comparison to the Bengals who have none. Now, is Joe Mixson a trade-for candidate in general if you could buy him for cheaper than carry-on? Are you going and poking or do you not want to worry about it? I would go and poke for Joe Mixing because I've seen, I mean, I saw some people on Twitter talk about.

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him hitting the waiver wire in their league, which is not going to happen in a lot of leagues. But if there's a sentiment out there, the negativity, if somebody in your league is making Mike's 1.59 yard per carry face that he just made, which is really disturbing. Then you go targeting. Have you ever seen 1.59? It's low. Yeah. Yeah. Only Sonny Michelle's 0.9 in week 1. I've seen that. All right. Here are some James Connor questions. Take the temperature of that situation. Another.

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banged up, inefficient player thus far this year. Save last week with the touchdown, but maybe that is what can provide you the ammo to trade him. Would you trade away James Connor for Nick Chubb? I would do that in a heartbeat. I guess that's probably going to be my answer to all of these, but I would trade James Connor for Nick Chubb. Yeah, I love James Connor. I believe he is a good running back.

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but he's nicked up already, and the loss of Big Ben, I'm not on team quarterback goes out, so now they're going to rely on the running back. I want an elite quarterback running the team for my fantasy running back because I want scoring opportunities. So I will take Nick Chubb here. Did you guys catch the old Freddie Kitchens line about Nick Chubb? Oh, I did. I saw it walking into the office this morning. It's the classic.

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I love Michael Keith. Classic line from head coach who controls the team saying, oh man, I would love to get Nick Chubb some more looks. Well, if you know, you should talk to the guy who can do it. Do they ever say that right in the mirror? It's Freddie ever wake up in the morning and just say, I would like to get him some more looks. What? So are you? How about what? Because you would like to see him say, I'm going to give him more looks. Yes. Yes.

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Yeah, as would I. Some coaches say that. They say, I didn't get the ball to him enough. You know, I'll try to get him in the ball more. I think we're all. It's perfect. Like, I got to figure this out. I think we're all agree. How possibly is I'm going to get the ball? That Chubb is better than Connor at this point. I'm still in on Connor. Yeah, I am general. I think they just have a really good offensive line and they're.

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they're going to want to use them. Their offense might not be as good. I'm certainly downgrading Connor without Big Ben, but I'm not off. I look at these other two questions coming in from Instagram and Facebook, and I'm on the Conner side. Do you believe James Conner's trade value will be better or worse two weeks from now? I think it will be. So they have about the same as what it is now. I mean, if I had to choose, you know, what is?

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What's their next two weeks schedule? Yeah, I don't have that. We're on the road in San Francisco this upcoming week. Okay. He's coming off the injury. And then after the Niners looks like it's the Bengals. I would say it's up. I would say it's up. Yeah, I would personally move on from him. I know you guys both believe in him. Would you trade James Connor for Mike Evans? This is team dependent based on your needs at wide receiver and running back. It's an even trade. Yeah, I would say it's a fair trade. So if you need a wide receiver, I am still in on Mike Evans.

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