of a year for Dante Moncrief. I think this could be the big breakout for him. And then just because of the game, I would trade John Brown. I think he has more value. Currently, you're cutting Tyler Lockett. I just want to put that on the record. I am with a heavy heart. So that means in these games, we each, this round, we each did complete opposite things. No, we both kept Moncrief. Yeah, but I cut, we, I guess we both kept Moncrief.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Keep/Cut/Trade, Fantasy News & Mailbag
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Keep/Cut/Trade, Fantasy News & Mailbag
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137 passagesBut I cut John Brown. It's the opposite of doing different things. Yeah, I think John Brown carries a higher value at this moment in time. What do you think the listeners would choose if they had to, you know, trade and keep and cut one of us, like individually on the show? Oh. Like there's three of us. I'm just noticing there's three of us, and you could keep one and you could trade one. Well, there's an auto cut. I mean, I'm not going to. There's an auto cut? Yeah, he's pointing to the champ.
He's pointing to the champ over here. That is the worst. I'm the auto keep, my friend. I'm trading the beard. You know what I'll tell you. You get a lot of beard value. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, I will selflessly cut myself because that's the kind of guy I am. What will you cut your beard? No. Never. All right. Rob Gronkowski, Julio Jones, and Thomas Rawls. This is a ridiculous trifecta to keep trade and cut. The cut's pretty easy.
I think all of it's pretty easy. I mean, I think you keep Julio Jones. Just for my, just, I mean, you have, if you're keeping a player, are we talking one year? What are we doing here? This year. This year. Yeah, you, you're right. You keep Julio, you trade gronk, you cut rolls. Yeah, done deal. As easy peasy, a stupid question as I've ever seen, Mike. Cut him.
Cut Mike. That's perfectly fine, but I wasn't sure if you recognized that, but we can move to the next one. All right, Lamar Miller, Mike Evans, and Al Sean Jeffrey. Oh, man, all three of these guys were on my team. I said we received. Oh, were they? Oh, so that's where this came from. You didn't recognize your three keepers, Andy? Oh, my goodness. That's right. These, all these. That's funny. I see what you did here, Mike. Okay, so in our league of record. I like how Andy has just crapped all over, all over one of his keepers in our league. That's.
funny uh in our league of record he so you chose our keepers in our league of record for these last three i may or may not have done that oh man and the fact that we got halfway through them before noticing is mine was he didn't even notice i had to tell you yeah lamar miller mike evans alshan jeffrey although i think it should have been robinson i forgot you kept robinson or you got robinson instead of evans how funny okay lamar miller mike evans alshon jeffrey what would you do here
I think this is a really hard one. This is. And I would personally, I would trade the upside of Lamar Miller and the potential of Lamar Miller. As much fun as it would be to see him perform well, and I know all of the numbers if you extrapolate Lamar Miller out. He simply hasn't done it over a full season. We saw what happened last year when Jeremy Hill was extrapolated over a full season. And it's very hard to make that pen out. You have to be a really special player. And now you're moving teams. I just don't know it. I like him a lot.
Again, we're being forced into these decisions. This is not, move these guys down your rankings. Lamar Miller's not moving on my rankings. But from a trade perspective, I trade him.
Mike Evans is the guy I keep from this group. He's the youngest. He's got the highest upside, and he's somebody that doesn't have the trade value due to the touchdowns he put up last year. Alshan Jeffrey, I would move. I'm very close to you, but I'm going to keep Alshan Jeffrey. Because I think at the end of this year, Alshan Jeffrey is going to be a top eight wide receiver. Whereas Mike Evans is a guy that I think could break into the top 12. But I don't necessarily, you know, if he's 12, 13, 14, I'm not shocked. If Alshan...
plays 16, I'd be shocked if he's outside the top 12, and I will trade Lamar Miller because he'll bring the best value. All right. I'm with Andy on this. I'm going to trade Miller, and I would keep Evans because this is the way I'm looking at it between these two guys. If you're in the draft situation, it's going to be very tough. But to me, it would not shock me if Mike Evans somehow ends up a top four or top five wide receiver. And I would say comparatively,
to Alshan. I think Alshan's great. I think he'll be a wide receiver one, but I expect him to be in that, in the 7 to 12 range, where Evans could end up outside of that, but I think of, of the two guys, if anyone's just going to make a huge jump into that top elite category, I would think it would be Mike Evans, a guy with over 1,200 yards getting over 140 targets. I mean, I'll...
Now, are you sure Mike Evans didn't rush three touchdowns in last year? Oh, I see what you did. Yeah, little correction. Last week we were talking about, I was saying. It was Tuesday. Oh, yeah, Tuesday. You know, we brought up the point for your sleeper tape on Austin. He had four rushing touchdowns. And I was saying, well, how many did Mike Evans have? I meant like, how many on the year did Mike Evans had, which was three, you incorrectly said too. But the point was to clarify that.
Thank you. Thank you for throwing me under the bus. You're welcome, Mike. Cut, cut, Mike. Was that Taven Austin rushed for four touchdowns. Mike Evans only had three total touchdowns receiving, and so... That was the point, but we got a little troll grief over the fact that you didn't say that he caught them. Right. Troll's going to troll.
Troll's going to troll. I rarely play into it, but it was too much. I love Mike Evans this year. All right. Mike's keep Antonio Brown, Jordan Reed, and Shady McCoy. What do I do, guys? All right. You keep Antonio Brown. Okay. That's an easy one. I think I trade Jordan Reed. Hmm. I think I trade Jordan Reed. I think the iron is hot. Well, does Jordan Reed fetch more value than Shady McCoy? No, I think Shady is going higher because I've seen Jordan Reed.
fall to the fourth round and drafts. All right. So I think you trade Shady. You cut Jordan Reed. I trade Jordan Reed out of respect for Jordan Reed. Oh, that's... Instead of cutting him. I'm not going to cut Jordan Reed after what he did in the year. Shady McCoy... It's all going to be about personal feelings at this point. Shady McCoy is an enigma to me at this point because it felt just my feeling. I'm going... This is purely emotional. Just thinking back, you're like, well, he was okay. But he was actually...
I mean, he was beat up for most of the year, but when he played, he was very good. And he's on the bills who were among the league leaders in rushing, in rushing yards. It's a Rex Ryan team. They want to run the ball. Let me ask you this, because we need to talk about McCoy more. If you just gave McCoy the golden ticket of 16 healthy games.
Right? It's locked and loaded. He is playing 16 healthy. He's not coming off in the third quarter for five plays because his hammies sore or his knees sore or his ankle sore or whatever else gets sore for Shady McCoy three times again.
he's 100% healthy for 16 games. There is no reason he couldn't finish the number one running back. I'm not kidding you. No, absolutely. I was going to say he's. Volume pass catching. There's no reason he couldn't. But he wasn't, he didn't score. He's 100% lock for the top eight. I mean, if he plays 16, there's no way he is not. I'm not projecting him as the one. No, but I'm saying, even if he's healthy, the Carlos Williams factor to me is very real of him just coming in.
and going Matt Forte Michael Bush of like, okay, put the hammer in. See, I'm starting to regress. I'm starting to go down on Carlos Williams. Really? I am. Okay. Because I, you know, I'm not reading too much into it, but he didn't come into campus. Oh, yes. In shape. And look, this is for all those haters on Carlos Williams who gained the sympathy pregnancy weight, that is, that is a real. You are looking at it because. I'm still gaining it. Because I put it on and it has not come off.
I'm just coming a little down on Carlos. What Carlos did was... I'm blaming my wife for my appetite. Yeah, yeah. I take no responsibility. Lay off me, I'm starving. Carlos Williams is a guy who was scoring at an efficiency rate that's impossible to repeat.
So I don't think I'll repeat it. I mean, that's the plain and simple truth. I think he's a productive player, but if he doesn't get in the end zone to the same efficiency levels, those are on the table for Taylor and for McCoy and for Watkins. So I just personally, I'm not giving McCoy a healthy season. That's what I rank in light of him losing a couple games. Jason's looking at me like he's either about to pass out or he has some gas or something's going on. I'm very upset at you because while I agree with your take,
I really want to talk up Carlos Williams and talk down Shady McCoy so that when this show is over, I can trade for Shady McCoy from Mike, who seems to be too far down on him. So, Mike, let's talk after the show. Hey, I like it. All right, that's it for Keep Trade and Cut. You can go ahead and make your vote for... And let us know. Like, that was an experiment. We like to keep it fresh sometime. Let us know how that would enjoy it. I think it was a good time. Let's answer some questions. Mailbag. Mailbag.
Yeah. I'm going to give that a two. Yeah, that was weak, Mike. That was so quiet. Oh, he's calling for it again. Mailbag. Buy your bag. Yeah. Forced. Yeah. All right. Dave and San Diego, does the bye week have any consideration for you during your draft? Oh, so. Almost none. How do you think about bye weeks? Buy weeks are a.
late tiebreaker. By that, I mean, you know, I have so many different, you know, unspoken tiebreakers where when I get to two guys and they're similar, I think, okay, is he on a good team, a bad team, who's his coordinator, you know, what's, you know, different things. What's the early season schedule? Yeah, and the late season schedule. Later in my draft, once I already have several people, you know, I might look and say, oh, you know, I've got.
I've got my running back on by week nine. Even then, I'm telling a lie because I would not mind drafting another week nine by week. Look, your team's going to change. You don't win it at the draft. You move players around the waiver wire. You're trading. If week nine, if you're projecting you'd have all the same players in week nine.
then you can go ahead and pay attention to your buy weeks with an astute eye. I almost completely ignore it outside of MIFL 10 leagues. Yeah, if it's a best ball league where what you draft is done, you don't make the roster moves, then you've got to pay attention to buy weeks. Maybe if it's like one of those super early week four. This question is still out there so much because of the prevalence and importance of it from fantasy football 15 years ago.
10 years ago, when there weren't a lot of transactions and when the point totals for players were tied to touchdowns only and you had, I mean, missing a week, you didn't have a guy off the waiver you could sign and play in. I think people just care about it way too much. You know what data I want to see? I want to see data of like from ESPN of total, you know, roster transactions.
versus like playoff appearances because I'm pretty confident that those who are just making more transactions now you know there's that stupid guy that just makes a move for no reason all the time makes bad trades all the time and and sure he finishes outside of the playoffs but I feel like if if you want to those people who stand pat who love their team don't make the changes don't make the waiver pickups don't make the trades and they just think even if they drafted great they're not making the playoffs Josh
Just kidding. That's my brother-in-law. All right. Matt in Los Angeles, is a draft for a three-keeper startup more similar to redraft or dynasty strategy? You are talking completely redraft at that point. With only three keepers, you are going to draft accordingly. 95% redraft. Yeah, I would say it depends. I'm going to say 100%. Because if you are making a draft...
If you go, hey, this guy's a year younger than that guy, but he's not going to perform as good this year. Let me make an argument for you and see if you agree with me. If you are drafting a three-keeper league, is there any situation where you're taking, I don't know, O'Dell Beckham Jr. for the long term over. No, like that's what I'm saying. I would not take O'Dell Beckham Jr. over Antonio Brown. Never. But when you take, like, Gurley over Peterson, maybe, if you believed. I'm just.
