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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Keep/Cut/Trade, Fantasy News & Mailbag

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The rationale behind it of we don't know who's throwing the ball. Is it butt fumble? Is it first round pick, Paxton Lynch? So it just can the offense sustain for both DeMaris Thomas and him where, I mean, the last two years, Emmanuel Sanders has been, at least before the season, was a stud. Very, very highly sought after while Hearns has done the opposite. He has out, he's, is Hearns going above Sanders in drafts? Yes.

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I'm going to pull that up right now. Hearns is going at 507 and Sanders at 512. So yes, Alan Hearns, wide receiver 2 for the Jacksonville Jaguars, is going ahead of Sanders. That doesn't surprise me. No, it makes sense. Not at all. If you look at like the quarterback situation, you'd rather have Blake Bortles throwing him in the ball. Yep. You'd rather have a young guy on the rise than an old guy who...

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Emmanuel Sanders is not an old guy, but, you know, a guy who might have already peaked is your other way to say that. Look, that's the point I need to make about Sanders. He's not old. He's 29 years old. He's the exact same age as Eric Decker. So if you think Eric Decker's peaked, then you think Emmanuel Sanders has peaked. They're both still under 30 at wide receiver. I think we're going to have different answers on who we keep, who we trade, and who we cut here. I would, man, do you guys have a clear answer yet?

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I'm struggling here. I got one. I got one and I'm going to trade. I'm going to trade Alan Hearns. I think I can get a pretty good value for him and I'm okay not having Hearns on my team. I like him. I think he provides a good fantasy value where he's being taken right now. But like we've talked about all offseason. We see the regression coming for...

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in the passing touchdown department for Jacksonville. So I would move him on. I think I'm keeping Sanders. Are you? I think I'm going to cut Jeremy Hill. I'm keeping Hill. I still believe in the talent, and I believe that he can correct what he was doing wrong last year of frequently thinking that he's Barry Sanders when he is not. He is Jeremy Hill, and he needs to play his style of football. So I just...

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I think that Hill can surprise us again next year. Maybe not to rookie year levels of success, but certainly better than last year. Yeah, I could see that. I mean, despite me saying I'm coming down to where most people are on Jeremy Hill, I'm actually going to trade Jeremy Hill here because there are those people out there that really believe they see the touchdowns, they see the youth, they know that this guy could be. I mean, I think of these three guys, if you were in a startup draft.

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Jeremy Hill is going to go first before either Alan Hearns or Emmanuel Sanders. So I'm going to trade the guy that I get the most value for. Are you talking in a redraft? Yeah. Yeah, in a redraft. And between. They're going to go, I bet they go all near each other, but I'm guessing. Yeah, he'll go before Hearns. Really? Andy thinks so? Okay. And then I'm going to keep Emmanuel Sanders. I like Emmanuel Sanders more than Hearns for this coming season. I think he's the better player.

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I missed who you were going to trade. The next. Trade Hill. Okay. Of keep trade cut is Amir Abdullah, Melvin Gordon, and Gio Bernard. Ooh. I'll tell you right now, I am... Read through them again. Read through them one more time. Amir Abdullah, Melvin, Gordon, and Gio Bernard. Keep one, trade one, cut one. That's the toughest one so far. For me, I'm going to...

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There's elephants in the studio. The problem is because in my mind I'm thinking, okay, I cut one of them. I don't have a problem cutting one of them. But then my mindset is, okay, I get to keep the other two. But you don't. You got to trade one away. So I think what I'm going to do here is I'm going to keep Melvin Gordon. I believe in him long term as being worthy. I'll trade Joe Bernard and I'll cut him here, Abdullah. I am on a very different mind frame than you because Gordon becomes my immediate cut.

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Um, I, I don't, I don't know if I believe in Melvin Gordon. The micro fracture surgery of the knee certainly freaks me out. Um, and, but now you're looking at potential of Abdullah with, oh man, with, with garbage results. Would you like to make a water bet with me right now? Ooh. A 1,000 yard water bet with Melvin Gordon. Wow. No, 1,000 yards for Melvin Gordon. There were only like six or seven guys that did that last year, Mike.

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On the ground, you're saying? Yes. I feel like you're trying to talk. You darn right, I'm trying to talk to him. Why? I just think if you're going to make him your immediate cut, you obviously don't believe all of a thousand yards rushing. Let's do it. Let's do it. Melvin Gordon. Water bet. Melvin Gordon over under 1,000 yards. No. Whoa! I feel good about it. No, 1,000 yards. Okay. So your immediate cut is Gordon. Who is your keep? Like I was saying, the potential is there for Abdullah where.

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I feel like Geo is great, but there is a ceiling. There is a threshold that I don't know if he can get over. But now I'm thinking about it more. Does Abdullah have that same ceiling? Like when they get to the goal line, are they going to put Zenner or Ridley in? Or are they going to stick with Abdullah or Riddlyick? What do you guys think about that situation? There's no way they're sticking with Amir Abdullah in that situation. I think there is fumbleitis. Look, here's the thing. They trust the O'Ridic in two-minute offense situations.

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They trust Theo Riddick in the passing game. Amir Abdullah will be a supplemental player that will give you explosive plays. He will give you games that you're proud of, and he will give you frustration as a fantasy owner when he's not on the field. I don't think there's going to be many situations, him and Riddick are on the field together. Maybe they're going to line a guy up in the slot and put one in the back field. That's possible. But it's hard for me to go from what Geo Bernard won weeks for owners for a good part of the season, especially the beginning part of the season.

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That would be the hurdle for me is you'd be, I think you'd be buying into a dream there. And maybe that's what I'm doing with Gordon too, but. But make a decision. Maybe Gordon is not my cut. I'm going to make Geo my keep. I like the take over there, and I think you're right on that. Who has the most value between Gordon and Abdullah? I think they're both besmirched in the names of fantasy. I think you might be right, though. You might be able to get more from Gordon.

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And so you're going to, I'm going to, I'll cut Abdullah in my infinite sadness that is a mere Abdullah. Yeah, I think. So, Andy, who did you keep? You kept Melvin Gordon? I did. I think I'm going to go along the lines here with Mike. I'm going to keep Geo. I'm going to trade Melvin and I'm going to cut Amir Abdullah. But in reality, when it comes to these three guys. Gio's going behind those other two right now.

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Right. Really? Yeah. He's going behind them. What? Right now, Gordon is 603. Amir Abdul is 608 in Geo's 703. My goodness. I mean, I can buy a standard league drafting Gordon over Geo. I got no problem with that. I would do it myself. Yeah, and a standard. But my point is, when you get to this point in the draft, this is still, you know, pre-draft season. So we've got to put a little bit of context here. When I get to this...

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point in the draft. You just said where they're going and they were all going within a round of each other. It's going to make a big difference as to what he is on my team. You know what I mean? Like, for instance, if I've gone more all wide receivers and I need an absolute one, you know, I need a guy with huge high potential here. I think Amir Abdullah and Melvin Gordon have higher ceilings.

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than Gio Bernard does. They do. But if I'm going for a safe pick, someone that I need to be able to plug into my flex who has the potential in a, you know, in a catastrophic injury ahead of him to be a top guy, then I go Gio. I think that's a really fair take. And it brings to mind the reality that we bring up so often when drafting your team in the offseason, which is it's going to, you know, the rankings are a part of it.

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And they help you weigh risk. They help you weigh value. But there is a team by team circumstance in which you're going to have to make a decision based off of something like that. Do you want the upside? I mean, Gordon, look, Gordon was drafted to be Todd Gurley.

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He was drafted to be a heavy, carry, high-impact play type of guy. So if he pans out there, we know Geo's never going to be that anymore. I mean, he's had the opportunity. Without an injury, he's not going to be that. So I think you make a really good point there. So let's move on to our next trifecta. All right, the next docket for Keep Trade Cut. We have Dante Moncrief, Tyler Lockett. Oh, come on. Or John Brown. I'll run that back one more time.

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Dante Moncrief, Tyler Lockett, John Brown. Man, it's like you looked into my heart through my soul and said, through it. Hey, Jason, Jason, who are three guys that you are madly in love with for this upcoming season that you think present great values at the wide receiver position? Those were probably the three names I would come up with. I will be, I'll say this.

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This one made me happy when I wrote it down because I knew it would cause great pain for all of us. Oh, man. Well, Andy, you'll probably cut John Brown because you think it's going to be Michael Floyd. I will keep Tyler Lockett. That is without a question my keep from this group. I think Tyler Lockett finishes about both of these guys this year. I think he offers the most long-term upside of any of these players, and he's playing in the best.

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probably the best offense. I mean, he's up there with Arizona. Well, and the Colts as well. I mean, the Colts have always had a great offense. Except for, yeah, except for last year. Well, yeah, except when they didn't have Andrew Luck. Good point. Did you watch the football games when Andrew Luck played? How was their offense when he played? Yes, I watched the football games. Shut up. Who's winning the match? So Jason didn't watch them because he thinks that they had a good offense last year, which they didn't. Tyler Lockett is my keep.

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My trade is John Brown, mostly because there is a diverse amount of opinions on who the best wide receiver in Arizona is. And so I'd wanted to take advantage of the people that put Brown at the top of that list. And I'd cut Moncrief because, you know, what else do I have in life but to cut Dante Moncrief? I didn't realize I lined you up for a dream come true to just cut Dante Moncrief. There are only a few things, bucket list items for me.

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One of them was, you know, go to New York City, did that, took care of that. Number two, you know, to cut Jerome Simpson. I'll say besmirch the name of Jerome Simpson. And then number three is to cut Dante Monkrie for no good reason. All right. Number four is to spend the day with Jeremy Macon. I'm going to go next because I'm actually going to keep.

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Dante Moncrief here. That's the guy. So you cut him, I keep him. I believe Dante Moncrief is an exceptional player. He's got the size, the speed to do things that not a lot of people do. And if you look at the games when he played with Andrew Luck, how he finished his rookie season, I mean, he is a guy that could just absolutely

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blow up and have a monster year. I believe in him. I like all three of these guys, right? I like Tyler Lockett, but I still believe at the end of the year, fantasy-wise, Doug Baldwin will have more fantasy points than him. And that's not to say that I think Dante Moncrief is going to have more fantasy points than T.Y. Hilton, but I do think that Dante Moncrief has the body, the size, and an extra year on Tyler Lockett. If we're just talking redraft,

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where this year I've got Dante Moncrief higher. And even though I really do like John Brown, like you said, Andy, there's so many different opinions. I think John Brown will be the guy. But I don't know that. You don't know that. Nobody knows whether it's going to be, you know, Michael Floyd or John Brown or Larry Fitzgerald for that matter. So I'm going to stick with Dante Moncrief. Tyler Lockett. Since Matt Harmon came out with his love on Tyler Lockett, I think his value is going to skyrocket.

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I'm trading Lockett, Cutting Brown. You're going to... You're going to Lockett will skyrocket? Is that what you said? Yeah. Lockett the rocket? Locket's going to skyrocket. Yeah, I'm not thanking Matt Harmon for that. I know. You know, come on. I've been talking about Tyler Lockett all summer, and I liked it when he was this very... The big gap between Baldwin and him. And now all of a sudden you're like, okay, are they going to end up in the same round? Are they going to end up a round apart? They could.

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Nobody listened to Matt Harmon. Just kidding. We love Matt Harmon. Oh, man. It was good because it validated our thoughts on Lockett, but at the same time, it'll move his rankings up. I'm struggling over here, but between... Make the call. Be firm. Between Moncrief and Lockett, I love both. I think both can break out, but I'm going to stick with my guy. I'm going to stick with Dante Moncrief. He's going to be my keep. I think there could be an absolute monstrosity.

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