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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Keep/Cut/Trade, Fantasy News & Mailbag

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And five touchdowns, is he worthy of being drafted? Again, I just referenced the MFL 10 leagues in those leagues at a late position, yes, because they're going to come in bunches. But what about a normal league? In a normal league, probably not. I mean, if you're drafting 11 guys, then no. He's played seven years, six years. This will be a seventh year. His peak year, other than, okay, so with Brady in 2014, he had the 74 for 953 and 7.

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But five other years, he has been, his peak has been 49 for 627 and 5. I just think he is really, I think he was in a perfect Brady-like situation. This was like the jump shooter that got to play with Steve Nash. This was a player that has not shown me enough in six years to draft him personally. I mean, I think if you want to make him, you're Kamar Aiken instead of...

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Camar Aiken, that's fine. No, I would actually think Kamar Aiken is a guy that I can rely on in a flex spot. I don't think you're going to be able to necessarily rely on LaFelle in that spot. I'm just saying his value for where he's being dragged, his opportunity.

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for where he's being drafted is being overlooked. That's, that's it. Please, nobody, nobody go out there and say that I love Brandon LaFelle, because that's not the truth. Please, everybody. Everybody go out there and tweet about Jason Moore. Tweet about my love for Tyler Boyd. Okay, because that's, if you need to tag him, it's at Jason FFL, you can find, we'll figure out what Brandon LaFell's Twitter is. I want you to assault Jason's Twitter with Brandon LaFelle. Don't do this to me. This is what I will say real quick. My brain is I like Andy Dalton.

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I think he's a competent quarterback. I think he can be very good for fantasy. And that gives Lafell an opportunity. So there are probably plenty of guys being drafted over Lafell who should not be. And I'm rooting against Lafell because I love Tyler Boyd. If Lafell had a Leonard Hankerson type of impact on that team, that would be my expectation. That's fair. Kind of, you know, you're probably going to see AJ Green, Geo, Eifert, all get targets ahead of Lafell.

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Agreed. Just to follow up, he was 21st and standard. In his super year? Yep. All right. Let's go with this bit of news here. Pete Carroll confirmed after Minicamp that Lockett is a starting wide receiver. Again, Mike, you're really stretching this news. Peter reports Mark Cook really believes Charles Sims will see an increase in carries in 2016. Okay, we can talk about that. Sure. Charles Sims is somebody that already outperformed value last year. He's somebody who...

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is still not going high enough in drafts, providing a good value this year. Increased carries? Yeah, and that's where I think it's interesting that you need to talk about. Because if he sees increased carries clearly, and so fact, though, Doug Martin loses carries, and that's what Doug Martin brings to the table is a high volume of carries. And if Charles Sims is eating into that, I mean, it doesn't even have to be significant, but let's say he takes 30 carries away.

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from Doug Martin. That's a really big deal for a guy with Sims is already the passing down's guy. And if you take, I don't remember how many carries Doug Martin had, but I know he was over 200. But if you bring him down, I mean, if people are taking him in the second, third round, that's going to really dent his value of a guy who shouldn't go there. If you bind to the narrative that now that Martin's been paid and he's had some inconsistent years.

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Them having somebody they're confident in in Sims that's been productive behind Martin makes the transition to more carries to Sims at least viable. It's not like a stretch to say, okay, if Martin starts to struggle, Sims is somebody they have enough confidence in to put him out there. But Sims still has to then succeed in the running game as opposed to the passing game, which we haven't really seen in the NFL. And their schedule, the first four games, I think their first game is... You can go with...

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First game is easy. No, I don't. But I know the first four games are... Speaking of schedule, here is what Doug Martin is going to be looking at. Week one against the Falcons, they're okay. They're okay, uh, run defense. But then at Arizona versus the Rams versus the Broncos at Carolina. I mean, that's, that's not good. That's not a good...

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starting schedule for Doug Martin. Hard to get off to a good start for Doug Martin. It's going to be difficult to be running well five weeks into the season. He's going to get the opportunity. I still like Doug Martin. I'm not bumping him down at all. But like Andy said, if you buy into that narrative of they like someone behind him and he struggles and he's done that before, then you could see midseason kind of a little bit more trying to get Charles Sims involved. Here's a question for you. What percentage of carries do you think Doug Martin had?

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that he rushed for 20 or more yards on. You probably have no idea. No, I know that he's a big play guy, and I remember in the Eagle game, I think he had, he probably averaged 25 yards of carry as he torts them. But I'm going to guess, ooh, let's go with like 12%. That is a very high guess. I will then guess 11%. Five. Five percent of his carries.

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He ran for 20 or more yards, but that was second in the league. Oh, then I have no idea what I was thinking. The second highest total in terms of big play. Who is the most? I don't have that in front of me. Oh, oh, just so based on percentage of his runs, okay. Yeah, he didn't necessarily have the most. He had the second highest percentage of big plays. I'm just speaking into the fact that, you know, we saw Martin come off the field frequently last year, but he was still efficient. He had big plays. It wasn't just the volume play for Martin. So I don't think I have any of the other news that I really want to.

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get into so um all right so before we jump into uh the the new game the new fresh game that i hope everyone copyright mike right thank you uh we want to tell the footland again about pristine auction luck footland love christine oh look look a good close personal friend of mine he sent me a text message the other day and he says guys

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They're tremendous auctions. But just please jump on there. Give it a try. I know that you're going to love it. You're going to find something that you have to have. All right. And now it's time for the one drop that Mike forces me to play. Here we go. It's the best. It's so bad. It's so bad. That is another archive drop. This is what we'll do. I will spearhead this. I will put a Twitter poll up that says,

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Okay. That will be two answers of should we continue to use it or should we scrap it and we'll let the Foot Clan decide. All right. It'll stay. I know it'll stay. Oh, will it? Because it's awesome. Yeah, all right. Talk about this game. All right. So here's the spin on this game. We're playing a little keep, trade, cut. So I'm going to give three names or whoever wants to read them out. We're going to give three names and you have to make a hard line decision. You get to keep one. You get to trade one.

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but you also have to send one to the waiver wire. I like this because I assume you did not just pick out the same position, right? You have multiple positions? There will be multiple positions. So a lot of people, when they see our rankings, they want to know how they would evaluate picks across position lines. So I like the idea that we'll be backed into these horribly difficult corners as Jason chokes. What are you choking on?

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An 1893. You're having a ginger cola in 1893? Yeah. So here, but here's the deal, Footland. So this could be a complete bomb. We don't know because we're trying this out live for you and we want you to play along while you're driving while you're listening at home. So here I'll start it off. I will kick it off immediately with this one. Trade, cut, keep, Carlos Hyde, Brandon Cooks, Latavius Murray.

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Trade, cut, keep. You have to keep one of those. Now, this is a play on that. What is the other game? Is Mary... What is it? Like Mary Kill and... And something else. Oh, yeah. All right. That's why it's not that game. We have changed it. All right. So keep trade and cut. We'll go with that. Yep. Carlos Hyde, Brandon Cooks, Latavius. Murray.

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And I cannot claim... This one's easy for me. I'll say I cannot claim responsibility for creating this game. Someone actually had tweeted one to me. I don't know if they... You should figure out the name. This is easy for me as well. This is very easy. All right. For me, the keep is Latavius Murray. The trade...

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is Brandon Cook's, and the cut is Carlos. Exactly the same here. I realized it as you started off. I get it. Latavius Murray, he doesn't have that much value. He's a really ugly name right now. People like to hate Latavis Murray. I mean, I just think he's not sexy. Whatever that is. That's exactly what I meant, though. I mean, he's not...

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But whereas Brandon Cooks is, you know, he's a young, rising superstar wide receiver. People love him. I don't think people are excited to draft Latavius Murray. When you get in your draft and you get Latavis Murray. Certainly not. You get there and you're like, I don't really like any of the other guys. So I guess I'll go Latavius Murray. Unless you're me, in which case you're going, oh, good, Latavius is on the board here. I'm grabbing him. So I'm going to keep him because I'm not going to get a trade value for him. Brandon Cook's.

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You're going to get a lot of trade value in cooks. He had, you know, a great end to the season. Exactly. With so many touchdowns, and I'm not sure whether or not his touchdowns are going to be repeated at the same pace, in which case, you know, you want to trade high. You always want to trade high. You don't want to trade guys with low value. And then Carlos Hyde. Carlos Hyde was actually almost my answer for the quick question of the day. I was very close to saying that because I'm just realizing more and more. I don't think I like him.

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Because I love the potential. I get the Chip Kelly offense thing. Oh, as in you would be moving him down. Yeah, I started to get really high on him just for all the potential. But the reality is I just think they're going to be a really, really bad team.

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And I don't usually like a running back. Very difficult division. It's going to cost me a fourth round pick. Doesn't catch passes. On a bad team. So Hyde has a lot of upside from a quantity standpoint in the system. But I see the scars. That's how I'd go. Would you break it down the same way, Mike? Are we each answering these? Are we going to put each other in a spot for one? We'll each answer. We'll give our answer. We can focus on one of us. How about that? I would actually keep Hyde.

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I would trade cooks because I'm with you guys that I would maximize that value. And I'm not a cook's truther. I think that he is good, but I don't know that he's elite, which is. Matt Harmon talked about that on the show a little bit. If you want to go back and listen to that episode, we talked about cooks. He's not part of typical wide receiver. Sure. And that doesn't. I mean, those kinds of players can evolve. I get Donio Brown's not the prototype. Sure. But there's just, I just can't buy in.

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to Cook's being an elite level guy, like a lot of people out there do. And I would cut Murray. So you're saying, based on that, you're on the clock, you're sitting there in the third round and you're taking Hyde Over Murray. I am. I would draft Hyde over Murray. All right. That's fine. I think that's fine. So what's the next group? I'll go with the next one. I'll throw the next one out there. All right. Here we go. Jeremy Hill, Alan Hearns.

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And Emmanuel Sanders. Keep one, trade one, cut one. Keep trade and cut. That sounds like fart. I want to give the listeners the opportunity to think through it a little bit themselves and make their own decision. Jeremy Hill, Alan Hurons, and Emmanuel Sanders. The name of Emmanuel Sanders is, I'll the mighty have fallen, which is interesting. And I completely get the...

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