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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 8 Waivers, Streams of the Week, Goodbye Arian

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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 8 Waivers, Streams of the Week, Goodbye Arian

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that always throw underneath, also known as I hate Brock Osweiler. And secondly, he took some shots. And secondly, I said, look, it looks like DeAndre Hopkins may be entering the Larry Fitzgerald time. Yes. And we're talking about years ago when Larry Fitzgerald was in his prime, like DeAndre Hopkins is, Fitzgerald was matched up with anonymous quarterback A, B, and C, whether it was Cobb or Skelton or all these different, liner, all these different quarterbacks that could not bring, they were stat-sucking.

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quarterbacks for DeAndre for Larry Fitzgerald and now DeAndre Hopkins they're not on the same page at all and if you watch the game you see Osweiler and Hopkins this offense is all based on those like double choice routes so the wide receiver runs a route and they read the defense and then it's one thing or another thing there were multiple plays that Hopkins broke in and the ball went out or the ball you know went in and Hopkins broke out they're not reading things the same they're not on the same page and somebody tweeted me back and said

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Well, he was fine in the quarterback carousel last year. You know what? Brian Hoyer is better than we thought he was. Brian Hoyer just had four straight games of 300 yards. That's what I'm saying. He's better than the Texans thought. Yes, and he could process those things better than Osweather can. And so, and you've just committed $72 million. Now, they probably won't pay him all that. No, no. But you've committed a huge amount of money to Osweather. What was strange for me was that they were talking about how the whole signing went on.

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And my takeaway was they signed him. They agreed to this contract. They hadn't even really met him yet. I mean, that's bananas. But back to my favorite part of the game was the play calling. You had, okay, Brock Osweiler, he fakes it to Lamar Miller. He throws it downfield into triple coverage. You're like, yep, there we go. I mean, Hopkins has three touchdowns on the year, but he has a week of four catches, one catch, five catches.

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What do you do with Hopkins? He's the 24th ranked fantasy wide receiver, and he belongs there. I was going to say, people ask, is Hopkins a good, buy, low candidate? Generally speaking, wide receivers coming off of Denver or a good by low candidate. And he is. I mean, what we saw yesterday is not going to be, I mean, this coming week, they play Detroit. Yeah, he should have a real good matchup this week. However, if you're going to buy him low, you need to.

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realize that his his world is wide receiver two he is not a wide receiver one you're not going out and getting a j green he might have been drafted up there yeah that's just not his his first round he does have a pretty good schedule the rest of the year what's his playoffs so you well you have detroit the by week jacksonville oakland chargers green bay colts jaguars bangles so the the playoffs are the colts the jaguars and the bangles

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A couple days ago when I saw how depleted the Cardinal's wide receiver core was, I was thinking to myself, what wide receivers out there might fit in a trade? You know, you go for a broke, and Tori Smith instantly popped into my mind. He barely gets, he barely has any targets in San Francisco. He's just been underutilized. And then yesterday, the 49ers say they're now open to trading Tori Smith. I've seen rumors that Philly is very interested in Tori Smith because they're not happy with their wide receiver core there.

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And could be interesting. I believe today they said they are not trading Toy Smith, which means his trade is imminent. Seems to be that way. That's usually what happened. No, we're never. Josh McCown also might be back this week. Right now, Kevin Hogan's the number one quarterback on the depth chart. Oh, brother. Cody Kessler. Is that? I really want Kevin Hogan to be big now that you said that. There's some guys. You just got to go with it.

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So that's it for the news, unless you guys have anything you'd like to throw in there. Extra. Extra, extra. Nope. All right. The only other news is this is week one of two weeks of Bipocalypse. Yeah. A lot of teams missing. Did you have the list?

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Yeah, we've got Baltimore gone. Los Angeles Rams gone. That means no case Keenham on your roster. Miami gone. New York Giants and Odell Beckham gone. Pittsburgh. Steelers gone. The Antonio Browns. And San Francisco. And Tori Smith's on by. Oh, no. Put me in, coach. All right, put me in, coach. Going into week eight, big names, big decisions. I still am shocked that J. J. Jai is somehow owned in 76% of leagues only. Yeah, that's.

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Let's start with running backs. Okay. Because I want to talk about J. Ajai. Jason, I know you had an Ajai evening. I sure did. You got a night? A night with Jay. A night with Jay. Yeah, you know, look, my opinion of Jay Ajai has been not as informed as I wanted it to be. And so I went back last night and I watched the last month.

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Every single snap that the dolphins have had, watched every run, every, you know, it was painful, but I did it. I got through the Dolphins games. And I have a lot of thoughts on Ajai. If you're talking waivers, you need to go for broke. That's exactly what I was going to ask you. On Ajaya, you need to go for broke on him. He is the clear workhorse back for Miami. Since we're on this little mini tangent here. Sure.

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If I can have the stage. Oh, okay. All right. I'm sitting back. Let me tell you, Jay Ajai. We forget sometimes that the fantasy draft knit community saw three guys in a tier above everyone. Sometimes Jay Ajai went in the third. But it was Todd Gurley. It was Melvin Gordon. And it was Jay Ajai before the draft.

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Now, once Jay Ajai went in the fifth round of the Dolphins, he was an afterthought, but beforehand he had the pedigree. Go look what he did in college. He was amazing. Look what he's done. He's only the fourth player in the history of the NFL and two others are Hall of Famers that has put up back-to-back 200-yard weeks. Aryan Foster just went down, okay? He just went down, which means you're locked and loaded as the guaranteed running back.

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workhorse of that team. These are the reasons that if I own Jay Ajai, I am absolutely trading him. Wow. Because you have a built-in value where when you trade him, you are trading him right now at the value that he returns on those things. Like if you could find the trade partner that is either a Dolphins fan.

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or a college football fan that remembers Jay Ajai, they are going to buy in as a top five back or at least a top 10 back rest of the season. What about just somebody that watched 200-yard games in back-to-back? Well, so I watched those. One of them, for instance, you know, his big 70-yard run that really put him over the top in that first week. Did you realize that came when that was...

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That was after the garbage time, right? Garbage time, Big Ben gets that touchdown in the Steelers game. Yeah, two weeks ago? Yeah, two weeks ago. Remember the garbage time, Big Ben? I am shocked. I am shocked that you're throwing shade on him. No. I am blown away. Here's a deal. And I want to be clear. I am not saying that Jay Ajai is not going to be okay for the rest of the season. Jay Ajai is going to get the work and he's going to be an all right back. But he is not going to do what he's done these two weeks the rest of the season. Some of those plays were, I mean, that 70 yards was.

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You know, we don't like to say, oh, well, if you take out his 70-yard run, it was, you know. But that was, there was like seconds left in the game. The Steelers weren't even playing D. I don't even know why they didn't take a knee on that play. And all of a sudden, they run the ball and he goes for 70 yards and a touchdown. All right. Well, let me ask you this then, because you want to trade him. I do because of that. But I'm talking about what can you actually get for a Jai. If I cannot work a trade.

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And I would put Ajai and a decent wide receiver together. And if I could get David Johnson, Levy on Bell. These are the guys that won't get, it won't get done, though. David John. No, you might be able to get it done. You absolutely my deal. I highly doubt it. If you could, look, Lev's going into a buy. You have Rothesberger that's not back yet. If you can ship. Jayahe is going into a buy. Okay.

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Fair point. But you can cash in on 200-yard games. Here's who I would... But I'm just... I buy into Ajai. I said it yesterday. I think he's a top eight back rest of the season. There are... Easily. That's kind of my point, right? Is like, if you trade him to someone that believes that, you are getting the value that he does return on that. But...

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So if he does, you're fine. You know, if you trade him for an Odell Beckham Jr. because you got him off waivers, you've still got running back depth, and somebody's reeled down on O'Dell Beckham. Great. That's a good move. Do it, man. Capitalize on this. Because you've already got the baked in value. If he sucks, you win. If he's good, you didn't lose because you got enough value. I agree, but there are certain players. I mean, you've made that contention this week about David Johnson.

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I would say you still can't trade that player because they offer something that's a separator for your team. Absolutely. So if I never once saw J. Ajai break a tackle in the backfield, not one time in the last month. Now he is really good at those seven, eight yard runs right up the middle when the line opens a big hole. All of these games. His long run in Buffalo, he broke about three of them. No, no, no. He's great at breaking open, like. Open field tackle? Yes. Once he's six, seven yards down the field, hard to tackle that dude. But in the back field, very easy to tackle that guy. And so.

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The thing is, is the Miami Dolphins offensive line to open those holes that they have had three consecutive games at home, what you want to put your trust in? Because they've been at home. Listen to the playoff schedule. First week is Arizona. Second week of the playoffs is the New York Jets on the road. I mean, look, I'm saying if you can get value for him, but he's okay. I don't think he's going to, I'm not saying sell him because he's going to suck. I'm saying sell him because his value is not going to be this high ever again.

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So we've talked at length about JJ. I think you've made some good points. I think I do buy into him as a top eight rest of season. But if you can get that kind of value for a guy that does have a tough playoff schedule, I agree. The ones that you brought up or we brought up, you know, David Johnson, Lev Bell, Oda Buckham Jr., Julio Jones, AJ Green. If those guys can be part of a deal, I'm fine with it. I'll be shocked.

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