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Main show · November 11, 2019

Week 10 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Kupp Kupp Goose

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starts writhing in agony, grabs his shoulder. I mean, it was like the same, the same looking injury. He came right down on that shoulder, that clavicle. Yes, and then the reactor began to leak for Jason, and we were all feeling it. And then all of a sudden he runs back out on the field, and he's the same tie-wee kill. So that's good news. Marty Cooper, dominant, absolutely stellar performance for him. He makes such a difference.

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Just keep those targets up. It's tough to hit that because it reminds me of Cooper Cup. All right, Golden Tate, four for 95 and two on eight targets. Michael Thomas, a great game as well. Welcome back, Mark Andrews. Hey-oh. Mark Andrews had a huge game, six for 53 and two on eight targets. It was nice to see. He's been targeted seven plus times in eight of nine games. He likes to play Cincinnati. What did he do the first time against Cincinnati? Six for 99.

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And no touchdowns? Correct. Okay. And then he scored twice in this one. Kyle Rudolph, one of the better catches of the year? That catch was incredible. The one hander? Yeah, because he never touched it with the other hand and secured it with one hand to his body and toe tap. I want mitts that size. That would be nice. Because I know how big the real NFL football is to just grab it like a baseball. I was going to say, I imagine you out there with a right-handed and left-handed baseball glove. Just grabbing.

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Is that allowed? Can I wear these? You can try. I would love to see you. I've been told gloves are okay. I believe the wall of wrist would use a couple of those. But yeah, Kyle Rudolph, four for 14 and two. So touchdowns a plenty. Travis Kelsey, a nice game. Greg Olson, eight for 98 on 10 targets. Perfect game script in this one. I mean, drive after drive to come back. Olson was a go-to player.

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somebody you could rely on in the middle of the snow. Mm-hmm. Which, uh, and then, and I think you can roll with him next week against Atlanta. And then my goodness, if you wanted to see the reactor going wild in the first half of this game. O.J. Howard. Oh, four for 47 in a touchdown on seven targets. Jason did not melt into a goo. I was very happy about that. Played him, started him. It kind of, it washed out the David Johnson thing. Because.

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We're about to get to the Stinkers of the Week. David Johnson used... Probably didn't wash it out for those that played David Johnson. No, it didn't. But for myself, it was nice. I took two risks, and one of them paid off, and one of them was risky business. No, one of them did not. Stinkers of the Week, presented by odor eaters. All right, let's get into the quarterback stinkers. Let's start with...

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Mitchell Trebisky with makeup. Jared Garf! Jared Garf, 22 for 41, for 243, two picks, one fumble, no touchdowns. Yuck. Mike was smart to pick Pittsburgh in our weekly office pool.

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on the basis of Jared Garf being atrocious on the road. 58% completion percentage, 6-6 touchdown to interception ratio, 6.66 yards per attempt. Oh, no, Mark of the Beast. Before you get mad at me about my comparison, let's be clear, over the last 17 games played, Mitchell Trubisky has four more touchdowns than Jared Garf does. That's because he had a six-touchamp game. No, I would say the other 17, 16 games matter too.

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That's a very big indictment on Jared Goff. And when I started tweeting about the Rams, the Rams fans were quick to remind me it wasn't, it's not just this year. It was the back half of last year too. Yeah. This was not something that just suddenly came out of the blue. They do not look the same. They do not feel the same for fantasy owners of whether you're Cooper Cup this week. Robert Woods most of the season. He had a fine game this game in PPR leagues for sure.

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I will say golf is on pace to throw for over 4,600 yards. He's not bad, but he's completely a streaming option. He's not a guy that you can play week in a week out. Next week. He's at home, but it's Chicago. I'm not playing him against Chicago. We saw how he did against Chicago last year. No, thank you. But the two weeks after that, Baltimore and Arizona? I'll play him against Arizona. Not Baltimore. At home? I think that's going to be a high scoring game. I'll play him against Baltimore at home. I think Baltimore is improving on their defensive side.

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Yeah, I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to poop all over Jared Goff in general. I'm just talking about the Rams in general. And really, you know, any player in today's NFL's passing game has stream-worthy consideration. Every single player, based on matchups. There's no question that a guy can go out there and have a great game. I'm just kind of disappointed we don't see this well-oiled machine. I mean, it hurts Gurley owners. It hurts everybody. And this was coming off a buy where usually McVeigh has a history of any time that he has had extra.

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time to prepare, they come out on fire. While we can be upset with golf, Drew Breeze, this one hurt real bad against Atlanta. At home. Coming off of the buy. He was my number one quarterback in the week. 32 for 45 for 287 yards. And that is the end of the fantasy stat line. Wait, no. How many touchdowns? I was at the end.

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Zero. Zero touch. That was brutal, man. And you kept thinking. This was a perfect game script for him. Atlanta comes out, jumps off to a lead, and you just assume, okay, it's Drew Breeze. They'll get it back. It's at home. I mean, they had like, I feel like four or five drives. Camara's back. Jared Cook is back. They're ready to rumble. And it just never happened. And they couldn't protect Breeze.

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All of a sudden, the Atlanta Falcons, who have no pass rush whatsoever, were dominating the awesome offensive line of the Saints. Is this just a throw the game in the garbage? I choose to believe that, yes. I think it's a game that will save Dan Quinn for a little while. Six sacks. Six sacks is the most sacks that Breeze has suffered since 2013.

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Yeah, it made no sense. If you were going to tell me... You remember how close I was to calling this game? Yes, you were. That Atlanta would win this one. And then once I realized it was in New Orleans, I couldn't do it. But something just felt like the Falcons would divisionally challenge them. I don't know how it happened. Like you said, I think Alvin Camer had plenty of Monday pun days in there because people were disappointed in single-digit fantasy. Just ridiculous. And then Aaron Rogers.

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Back to back weeks now. 17 for 29, 233, end of sentence. So for Aaron Rogers, though, while like the Drew Brees won't hurt, and that's the, the Aaron Rogers fantasy output certainly hurt you, but he played very well. He just happened to have, there were three Aaron Jones rushing touchdowns. He just happened to get robbed by three Aaron Jones rushing touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, 233 yards is nothing to be excited about. It was.

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I'm just talking about the actual play. But 233 yards on 17 completions compared to 287 on 32 completions for Breeze. Yeah. Is this the floor for Aaron Rogers if the running game is working? Yes. My concern for Rogers is we spent the whole day talking about these studs, you know, Tyreek Hill speed, McCall Hardman. You know, you saw what Christian Kirk's speed did. No disrespect intended for the Lazard King or for, you know,

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well, some disrespect intended for Jimmy Graham. But when the majority of these targets and downfield targets are going to Lazard and Jimmy Graham and Patrick Mahomes gets to throw to McCull Hardman and Tyree Kill, you do cap your upside for Aaron Rogers for the big play type of situation. MVS has been the only one that kind of gives them those plays, but it's literally like a shot of game. So that's, I don't understand this. And maybe you guys can explain it to me.

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But how do you not equip Aaron Rogers in the offseason? And I don't mean with a rookie because I don't think that's the way to go. Rogers has got too many grimaces for a rookie. You need to bring in a veteran player, AJ Green. How is he not going to be a pass? I mean, put somebody on the team that Rogers can go to work with over this next three or four years. I don't get it. I agree. They need speed. They need veteran speed on the outside. I think that that's what would help.

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I don't think they need AJ Green specifically because I would go after a player that could give you the next three good years and isn't D.U.N. Oh, calling his shots. It's not worthy of an argument because he's hurt right now. So if he does well, then you'll be wrong. And if he stays hurt, I'll be wrong. Brian Hoyer is real bad. 18 for 39, three interceptions, trash game.

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Ugly throws. Yeah. You were disappointed. Get healthy percent. Yeah. Quickly. All right. Running back stinkers. Unbelievable stat line. 13 carries. 13 carries. Wait, wait, wait. I want everybody out there that doesn't know how many yards did Saquan get on 13 opportunities to get yards? One. He got yard. One yard. One yard.

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13. He gained... He got yards. So that means it was a little less, just a little less than an inch per carry. I have to give a shout out to FF today on Twitter that posted a picture of a yardstick and said, Sequel and Barclay ran this far on 13 carries. It is the fewest rushing yards by any non-quarterback with 10 plus carries since Reggie Bush had negative 5 yards on 11 carries in week 9 of 2006. He has 29 rushing yards in the last two weeks.

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He is. There are questions about his health. He did go for an x-ray after the game. He was matched up against the New York Jets, guys. Yeah, this was rough. Zeke, 20 for 47? I didn't think he looked good against Minnesota. I don't know if he was trying to do too much against that defensive front. Minnesota deserves credit, but Zeke was consistently cutting back into the defensive line in ways that were peculiar to me and only two catches for Zeke.

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Are you panicking about the output for Z? He has been, it's weird because right now he's, you know, before this week, he was the running back six on the year, which is, that sounds great. But you feel like he's almost been a bust this year. The last three games, he's been over 100 yards and he's scored in two of the past three before this, this week sucks. But he was, he was getting on the right track. I'm talking about the whole season.

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I mean, right now, he has three games where he has finished as a top 12 running back on the season. Last year, the year before, the year before it was every single week. He would have maybe, maybe three games. And usually it was like one game through the course of a season where he wasn't a top 12 back. But most of this year, running back 15, 14, 19, 14, 17. Run the past three weeks. Before this game against Minnesota, what were his three finishes? 17, 4 and 6. So he had two top 10 finishes.

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in that stretch but look at the whole season i mean you can't really say he's getting on the right track when last week he was 17 and then this week he was worse that's not the right track yeah i mean he's not catching as many passes he's not scoring as many touchdowns he's certainly being utilized heavily and in most weeks you're going to be able to lean on him for you know an rb a consistent double-digit game

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but it has been a disappointing year for him if you drafted him to be, you know, a number one guy. A Christian McCaffrey, you know, a Z. He was taken over Christian McCaffrey in a lot of leagues. He was taken over Dalvin Cook. He was taken over all of those guys. When the suspension, you know, if I was often saying through draft season, if we knew for sure that he was not holding out and was going to be playing, he would have been my number one. And right now, don't get me wrong, it's not like he's been.

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Bad. He's on pace for 1,400 rushing yards. That's great. He's a very good running back. But only 341 receiving yards and, you know, the touchdowns haven't really been coming. So I'm just saying he's been disappointing based on what you hoped. You wanted a guy who's going to come in here and win a bunch of matchups for you. It just hasn't done that. I just think this conversation is very interesting coming off the heels of talking about Barclay. And Barclay's been extremely disappointing too.

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Well, and that's why... He's also been hurt and may still be hurt. So you have kind of a... You have an out? Yeah, I mean, if Barclay was giving you these games week in and week out, you'd be kind of... You wouldn't be angry, but you'd be like, well, that's not what I signed up for. That's all we're saying. Yeah, 14 for 28 last week. How many multi-touchdown games does ZE have this year?

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Multi-touchdown games, none. Yeah, zero. So he's not winning, he has never won you a week with a performance. And you've seen a lot of different things from Cook. Just so you know, the last two games, the pace for Sequin, would have 232 yards on the season. That's not fair. That's not fair. On 216 carries. So, that's just funny. Yeah. Speaking of not funny. David Johnson. Yuck. Five carries. I apologize.

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