Early Sleepers & Values + Nappers, Jason Gets Sweaty - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/22

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Soon. Soon. I've got a couple more years left, though, of the two-wheel scooter, and then I will graduate to the rest. But I will be, you know, taking out the governor. I want one of those. He's taking the governors off? You're darn right. I've seen them. I've seen the elderly people with the way crazy carts that are going to fly in 30 miles an hour down the sidewalk. So they build those and they can actually go faster, but they're putting.

speed reduction onto that machine. I doubt it. I'll bet you got to soup the motor up versus take the governor on. That makes more sense to me. Do you think there's a community of the elderly all wearing leather jackets and cruising around and non-governed mobility scooters? Probably. Yeah, like denim cutoffs and stuff. There's got to be at least one small community somewhere. And they're all wearing the giant sunglasses. Yeah, of course they're out there. They're so cool. Got the rake on. All right, we are looking at value picks.

Who wants to go first? I'll jump in here first since that seems to be the order that we are going. Fine. I took this fella. You really like this guy. I do. The price is incredible. As a person, though. It's a pretty good value, though, for fantasy. Like a role model. We've had some good times in fantasy football. Antonio Brown and I, and he is going in the double-digit rounds. I talked about the sleeper of John Brown. Well, I'm trying here for the people.

I can't control things like Adam Troutman's ADP. But Antonio Brown being drafted on sleeper as the wide receiver 48. You want volume. In fantasy football, volume is king. And the fact that you can get Antonio Brown this late. And you know who Antonio Brown is as a football player. The question of his skill has been answered.

repeatedly over and over. And here's what happened last year. Antonio Brown joined the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He started in week nine. Reminder, off the street. This is Antonio Brown just getting up off the couch and joining the now Super Bowl winning Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was a wide receiver three or better in five of his eight games. He was a top 10 wide receiver twice, two times in the final three weeks. In those eight games,

All the wide receivers were healthy. This wasn't like Godwin was out. So Antonio Brown filled in, with the one caveat, Mike Evans did leave week 17 early. But for the most part, all three wide receivers were there and ready to go. And in that time, Antonio Brown pulled in a 20% target share. He pulled in 22% of the wide receiver receptions. He had a higher target and reception percentage than Chris Godwin.

This was off the street. And then, of course, built into that is, should Mike Evans or Chris Godwin miss some time, Antonio Brown immediately jumps up and is incredible. I'm not proclaiming that Brown is going to overtake, you know, Chris Godwin and be the actual wide receiver two on this team when everyone's healthy. I don't think that's the case at all. I think he is the three. But that wide receiver three is still going to see an...

incredible target share. He's playing with a quarterback that is very likely to hit that 40 touchdown threshold or at least be very close to it. And that type of volume in the later rounds is just absurd. And then, of course, built in Antonio Brown can be a league winning type of a player. He still has that ability should they call upon him for that. So the fact that he's going in the double-digit rounds just makes...

Absolutely no sense to me. I think you see this on teams with multiple talented options of wide receiver. It's like really hard to invest in an option that is the lowest of the ADPs. But you are investing nothing at this point. No, you're not. You're not investing much at all and you have some upside. But do you have the confidence to play them every week? That's the part where people get, have a hard time with it, or a pathway to something greater.

Like would you say that there's a like the ceiling for Antonio Brown is not the old ceiling? No, no, it's not. But I mean, when I look at values, when I'm deciding what a value is, to me, those aren't people that can break out and necessarily be top five at their position. It's just someone that is like, why are they going so late? We know what we have in Antonio Brown, a really good NFL wide receiver who's going to be part of a very good passing attack, who got the job done last year and we'll get the job done this year.

Um, he's a guy that you can absolutely plug in your wide receiver spot or your flex. And he's going in the 11th round. There are plenty of players going way ahead of him that I, you're hoping something happens, but otherwise it's just cut bait and he's waiver wire fodder. Like I said, he was a top 36 wide receiver in five of his eight games. Like in the 11th round. Yeah. Someone who is more often than that top 36, that's, that's insanity. Yeah. He's not going to be cut. You can always put him in your lineup. Yes.

I like it. So here's my value. My value requires one word of explanation. Julio! It's not Julio Jones. It's the guy that is benefiting from Julio Jones. I drafted him too in that mock draft. Oh, good job. I did compliment you when you did that. You did. Yeah, Ryan Tannahill is an excellent value right now. He's going in the 10th round as the 13th quarterback off the board. Nobody really loves Ryan Tannahill.

Like his mom, but like nobody really loves like, man, dude, I left the draft I got Ryan Tannahill in your face. His mom actually drafted Justin Herbert. Right. I don't, I mean, more upside, better hair. There's a lot of reasons. But here's the truth with Ryan Tanna Hill. He's been outstanding. Yes. He finished as the quarterback seven last year. But remember, he basically didn't have A.J. Brown for the first three games. They had the week four by. From week.

five on when they got back after their buy and he had a j brown he was the quarterback two for fantasy football like not a quarterback to the quarterback he was the second best fantasy quarterback that's great and you say well that's you know it's a small sample it's this how about the year before when he took over after marcus mariotta and once he was a starter was the quarterback three

For a fantasy football. So this is a guy who two years ago, once he got the start, was the quarterback three in fantasy. Last year when he had his main wide receiver, which was the vast majority of the season, was the quarterback two. And now you add Julio Jones? Yeah. Like the upside is actually the quarterback one. I wouldn't project that. But when you're getting a guy in the 10th round, like I told you, I love Kyler Murray. And the mock draft, I drafted him in the fifth, feel great about it. But I was like, man.

If I could have had a great wide receiver running back there and then added Tannahill in the double-digit rounds, and it turns out I get pretty close to the same amount of fantasy points at the end of the year. I just think he's a screaming value right now in these tracks. Yeah, I mean, you make a very compelling case. I will throw in one caveat with Tannehill. The ride is not always – like you hope Julio fixes the problem with Tannehill because eight of 16 games last season, he was outside the top 12 at the position, which is –

means you're losing at the position against somebody else in your league, yet still managed to finish as the quarterback two in that stretch. Yeah, a lot of times has the big, weak winning performance. But one thing that I think we need to look into a little bit more, I've been researching it. And it seems like consistency is one of the least consistent metrics, as in if you look the year prior when he had that quarterback three run.

He was one of the most consistent. Only had one single game outside of the top 12. I guess he was at 13, so two, two, but one barely. So like he, I think it's just one of those things where you bet on talent, you bet on an offense, and the consistency is going to come. I think 11 games in the top six in that two season stretch, which are weak winning type of performances from him. And Julio, greater sign Corey Davis. Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, it's, it's, it kind of blows your mind when you give the numbers of the finish of number three and the number two. Obviously, they're caveated by the AJ Brown absence and stuff. But if you do have injury, if you do have somebody go down, Julio's there to help. Yeah. I mean, it was funny because you rewind the tape a month ago. And it was like, man, this, this team is one injury away from just a, just a catastrophe. You lose Corey Davis, you lose John Smith. And now it's like,

Josh Reynolds and Julio Jones are way better. So what holds you back from ranking in that way? I think what holds me back from ranking him that way, ranking him as a top five guy is almost more about the other quarterbacks than it is about him. I think he absolutely has the ability to finish there. But when I compare him versus Dak Prescott or these other players, I just I see more ability for them to be great. But that doesn't necessarily like.

If there were, you know, right now, let's say it's Dalvin Cook at CMC at running back, right? They're the best two, right? And so there's a little tier break there. Well, if there were eight, if there just so happened to be eight great tier one running backs, then it doesn't mean that the eighth player is bad. It just means that they're all great. And I think that that's kind of more how I see the quarterback position right now. All right. My value pick, I don't think Jason likes him at all.

But I'm going to go with Debo Samuel here. You are correct. Yeah, he's the wide receiver 35 off the board right now. And the reason I like Debo is because he's going two rounds behind Brandon Ayuk. This is a make or break season for Debo Samuel. Oh, don't say break. I know. It's literally a make or break season for Debo Samuel. He has to stay healthy. But the facts for fantasy players is that when he's healthy, he's great. When he's on the field,

He's playing more than 70% of snaps. He's been double digits in 11 of the past 13 games. 85% of the time he's putting up double digits. He's an A consistency in our player profiles, but we know the story. He missed the first three games of last year after suffering a Jones fracture in his foot. Then he suffered a strained hamstring. He aggravated it again later in the year, which could have all stemmed from that Jones injury, where he's just trying to, you know, he couldn't train optimally.

in the offseason. There were issues. Entering 2021, he's fully recovered. That's where we stand with him. And I still have the conviction and belief that he is the number one wide receiver option in that scheme. Brandon Ayuk is very good. He's very talented. I could see them being 1A1B and both having great seasons. But one of them is two rounds later than the other one. Shanahan's come out and said he needs those guys to be healthy.

Iuke has dealt with injuries too. It's not just been Debo. In fact, it was crazy. I was looking back to some of Shanahan's comments with IEuk last year. It was like Ayuk's best fantasy day. Shanahan came out and he's like he took a step backwards as a wide receiver today. We need a lot better from him. It's like he, I mean, between what he's done with Pettus and then what he's done with those comments, he expects a lot from his wide receivers. I think he's.

The patience is going to run out on the injury front for Debo if he gets hurt. But he's a player you can draft in the eighth round and play him until he gets hurt. It doesn't cost you a lot in the draft. So I just think when those two guys are so similar, you take the better value in the draft. Yeah, I think you're right there. You know, if both players play 17 games, who is the better fantasy option? I don't know.

It's dead even. So why not take the guy a couple rounds later? I agree with that mentality completely. I'm just a complete not skeptical. You're willing to be wrong on Debo? Yes. He's one of those where it's like I'm willing to take the L when I bypass him at any cost because he'll play 17 and he'll be great. And I'll say, well, good for you, Debo. I did not think you could stay healthy. And he has, he also has the rookie quarterback variable of.

Maybe Garoppolo starts the whole year. I don't see it happening that way. To me, when you trade that many future first round picks to move up to the number three spot, that player is going to get in sooner than later. And if Tray Lance takes over, now you have to compete for a rookie's targets with not only IUC, but you have George Kittle as well. So there's, I like Debo the player a lot, but there are.

There are some red flags for me. Can I change your mind? Oh, yeah. I did forget about that. Oh, Debo. I miss Debo being good. He's so much fun to watch when he's healthy, the way that he plays out there. I just say he's wonderful to have on your roster when he's healthy. I mean, you want to talk about a guy playing with reckless abandon. It's Debo, but you want to talk about a guy who.