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The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy TEs + House of False Hope - Fantasy Football Podcast for 2/8

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The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy TEs + House of False Hope | Fantasy Football 2024 - Ep. 1547

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The tight-end truth episode turns post-playoff brain fog into a House of False Hope and keeps the hosts' self-aware aging jokes in view.

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You know, Caleb Williams and Roma Dunezay. Right, right. Cole Comet is, we're probably going to be out. I believe the important takeaway from Cole Comet, even though he, he wasn't a great fantasy asset this year from how things played out. He still actually impressed me on the field film-wise. He had some big boy man-style catches, especially around the end zone. And so, yeah, we don't know what the entire organization looks like going next year, what his target competition is. But I rose on Colcomette. Like I rose a little bit in just how I think of him as a player, as a talent. And so, I mean, that's really the only thing you can do right now is judge, do you think he's good? Do you think he's talented? Do you think he's capable if given the opportunity? Or is he just a guy? And I went more from just a guy to, I think he's,

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Pretty talented. Jake Ferguson at 8, 25 years old, was not drafted. So he was a great value. He's the guy I'm going to be drafted next year everywhere. Interesting. I think he'll be left for dead or at least be like the Titan 10. He'll be in the late rounds. I don't even know how. It's good to hear that because I don't know how to think about him. I really don't. Jake Ferguson is he, like focal point is not the word I'm ever going to relate to Jake Ferguson. Well, not when you got seedy lamb. Well, yeah, and I just feel like he was actually. He just feels like the guy you end up eventually throwing the ball to is how it felt. Yeah, I mean, he had 102 targets, and I can say that, you know, I had this experience. It wasn't always great, but I had Ferguson for a lot of the season in our primary league. And I'd pay attention and be watching those games. And high value targets were there.

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25 red zone targets that led the tight-in position. Yeah, I mean, he was looked to, and it didn't always connect, it didn't always work, and maybe that's just how it will forever be. But when I watched, I was like, I am happy to have this role in DAC's team. That's basically how I view it. Cheap Ingram? Yeah, Cheap Ingram. Exactly. In terms of just somebody you lock in every week and you're like, I've got my tight in position figured out. It might not win me the week, but I can go find my upside elsewhere. Exactly right. And it costs you nothing. And I think there's higher touchdown upside with Ferguson who got red zone targets and versus Ingram who's never scored touchdowns. And give me DAC over, give me expensive Trevor Lawrence this year. It was. Very nice. It was essentially.

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It was his, it was Ferguson's first year as a starter. His rookie season, he played 37% in the snaps. He had 22 targets. So he was put into a role as a second year player that he can still get better as an actual player. Now he, the, the Cowboys did take Luke Schoonmaker, aka the Schoon Man, in the second round of this past year. Eight receptions as a rookie. Yeah, I'm just. I'm not saying that the schoon man is definitely coming for Ferguson's job, but at least there is a high draft capital pick who could be in competition. I think Ferguson is his job. So I'm more on Jason's side of the like right now, tight in 10 and basketball. Touchdown upside every single week. He's an interesting player. It seems like there's role in Dallas's offense is to be the tight end eight to 10.

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Dalton Schultz the year before was the tight-in 10. Ferguson ends up at tight-in-date. Old man Witten was always still there. It's not going to be prolific, but it's not going to let you down. At number nine, we have much more excitement. It's Tray McBride. Tray-McBride finished at 9, consistency of 10, but in the second half was a consistency of three. He took over. Zackertz was waived. His pace from week six on was 103 receptions, over 1,000 yards, and four touchdowns. Well, in the first five weeks, he wasn't even, he was barely a part of this, barely a part of this offense when Zach Ertz was there. He played 39% of the snaps in the first five weeks. And basically was, I mean, he had a grand total. Let me count them here through those weeks. Eight receptions through five weeks. And then he was like, hey, let's get that guy on the field. The worry I have with Trey McBride is the, um,

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The draft price. And I agree. Like, like, it was a prolific week six on, but, you know, 100 receptions, 1,000 yards, four touchdowns. Will Arizona score a lot next year? What is the potential touchdown totals for Trey McBride? You know, Trey McBride next year, or David Njoku, no draft consideration? Easily Tremik, Tremik. So there you go. Just because of the PPR value, you think he's going to catch more passes? It's in the quarterback. Yeah, so once Kyler returned, he was on pace for 112, 1,143 yards. Still only four touchdowns, but the touchdowns can go up. It's just the fact that Trey McBride can take over games, where we'll see how the NFL draft goes. The chalk of the draft right now is Marvin Harrison Jr. ends up as an Arizona Cardinal, and by all.

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The chatter out there, he is essentially a day one alpha. You just put him out there, and that's what the draft people are saying about Marvin Harrison. But to have, even if that happens, if Trey McBride is clearly the number two target for the Arizona Cardinals and a player who can't actually take over, where most tight ends can't take over a game. That's what the interesting thing is. That's why people are drafting him, as we said, as the tight end three right now in baseball. Because the upside is massive, but he is going to, he's one of my favorite players right now, but that is a, that's a rich ADP. You're making a really, really big bet. Yeah, and this isn't a player that came out of nowhere. Last year, he was a rookie tight end. He did nothing. But he was the first drafted NFL tight end. A round two pick. A round, not just round two. He was pick number. Oh.

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He's destined for greatness. He's destined for this show. Team McBee. So I, yeah, I like his talent, his opportunity, and his breakout. Kiddle or McBride? McBride. Dalton Schultz finishes at 10 for the second consecutive year. He was last year's tied in 10. He's this year's tight in 10. You know, pretty good season. Pretty good run. Had some injuries. But if you look at, you know, if you isolate it a bit to weeks four through 12, it was a really good run. He was a consistency rank of eight. He got it done. I don't know how involved he was on a lot of fantasy squads. But from weeks four through 11, he was the tight-in three in fantasy points per game. And C.J. Stroud obviously elevated everybody in Houston, 47% good, 13% grade, 40% bust. Well, and it's TBD because Dalton Schultz was on a one-year deal. So we'll see where he actually ends up. I believe, right? Yes, he is. He is a free. Baby, come back.

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It seems like Dallas is what I'm hearing. No, I'm just kidding. It seems like this is a situation where the team and the player can work it out. I mean, if he comes back, I'm very interested. If he goes somewhere else and doesn't have C.J. Stroud. It's so funny because you just said what you said last year. Yes. You were like, if it comes back to Dallas, I'm very interested. If he goes to Houston with a rookie quarterback, not interested in Dalton Schultz. The truth is he's, he's the easy. I don't blame the process. He's a quarterback's best friend. I remember being the one fighting you guys a little bit about Dalton Schultz this past off season. Yeah, and by the end of week three, me and Jay were just, we were burying him into the ground. 12 was Mark Andrews, just some other names to throw out there. Mark Andrews was number two inconsistency. Mark Andrews is still great. Mark Andrews, very good. I will mention I believe Isaiah likely is very good. So that was part of the discussion before the season. Isaiah likely is a.

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like Isaiah likely was alone in Baltimore. Oh, yeah. He finished the year at 4-4-28. That was fantasy finishes. Like we would be, he'd be inside the top six. Yes. So when you have a player that is 23 years old emerging and then you have a player that has not been necessarily able to always stay on the field, even though he is very, very good, I just want that conversation to be in the back of your head. Mark Andrews finished at 4, 5, 1, and 4 before this year with the injuries. Points per game-wise, he was right there again. Yeah, he was 11.3. Travis Kelsey was 11.5. So, you know, I don't know if you're going to factor Isaiah likely into anything next year or not. I don't know if that'll be a difference maker if you're like right on the edge with two players. Yeah. Like if you're sitting Trey McBride and Mark Andrews is likely going to factor into you. I don't.

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I don't think so. I think likely will be involved, but I don't think it necessarily siphons away from Andrews. I think it's just a newer weapon in the offense. They have a real wide receiver problem with Bateman and O'Dow Beckham. Goddard came in at 14, consistency of 15, really a lost year for Goddard, and maybe we retire him. Yeah. I think he, you know, it's not always, you know, there's hot and cold and then there's Goddard. which is like it's not red light green light it's like red light red light red light red light red light red light red light red light red light there um which is just enough to get through he's following in the footsteps of zackertz uh for the eagles which is

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become a guy who can catch the ball and fall down. You mean old Zachers? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Young Zachary for the Eagles was a better footsteps to step in. Absolutely. He's following the footsteps because younger Dallas Goddard was really good for a while. And then it's like, yeah, I'm just going to catch the ball three yards from here and then get five yards on the play. Yeah, I mean, honestly, this is year, this will be year seven for Dallas Goddard. He's never finished above 10 at the tight-in position. And he's never, this was his, would you believe it's his career high in reception?

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because it was that's insane yeah so i mean he never he never broke out right goddard just we waited for it he was an anticipatory draft pick he did not break out and his draft capital you spent he was a tight and seven off the board you had to invest a six round pick to get him um which is high enough to where you probably put him in your lineup and waited and low enough to where you know i don't know massive massive he's bust this huge break he's a bust He's the third receiving option for a team that doesn't have a ton of passing volume. And the first and second option are their elite. So much better. It's not just good wide receivers on the Eagles. It's top tier elite players. So it makes sense that he would never really get the breakout. This season did not make sense to me of how they were utilizing him. So we'll see if after they're shifting some things up with the offense.

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Maybe we get some hope, but in draft season, I can't imagine. I will be calling for it. You know, if he follows the Ingram Najoku Year 7 plan. Yeah, this is the year. All right, a couple mentions here at the end. We'll have a Tuesday show with our Super Bowl reaction, some mailbag to talk through. Any news? Maybe we'll reflect on Kelsey's performance in the Super Bowl and what we think then. The UDK presale starts on Sunday. That's Ultimate draft kid.com. You'll want to head over there on Sunday. It is the lowest possible price for the ultimate draft kit. And the UDK Plus comes with the Dynasty Pass with a ton of tools and resources. Did you guys want to talk about that? Yeah, I did. We have been really scouring through our dynasty rankings, setting those up, all of our startup rankings, our rookie rankings, getting everything ready for Super Bowl Sunday. And it's just on my mind so much because.

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We're living in this. Even going through these tight ends, I'm thinking about how, you know, they rank in Dynasty and all that information will be available on Super Bowl Sunday so you could take a look at all the values, the trade targets, the rankings so that you can go make your early dynasty trades and take advantage of those who don't have that resource. There are three updates to the Dynasty Pass every year, which is the pre-combine release on Sunday, the post-combine, and the post-NFL draft. all of our rookie rankings, dynasty rankings, college production profiles, rookie mock drafts, and a whole lot else. Team opportunity pages are awesome. Yeah, team opportunity pages showing what every team is going to need this off season as you prepare. It's a great resource to know what dynasty asks us to potentially trade away before teams fix problems and make you, you know, suddenly you're like, well, okay, didn't expect that, but now, you know, Kenan Walker is not as valuable or whatever the case may be. So.

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You can watch the show over on YouTube, a reminder, subscribe over on YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. Click the bell. It's a nice little wave by Jason. Yeah. Oh, there was a wave to YouTube. It was very coy. So yeah, fantasy hitman's trade targets is part of the Dynasty Pass as well. Yes, sir. Sunday, we'll send out some emails. We'll let you know on social media. Follow us over there at the FF Ballers. That'll do it for today's episode of the show. Thank you for joining us. Enjoy the big game. I hope it is a good time. Enjoy your food, everyone. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.