Week 3 Studs & Duds + Jason Melts Down, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/26

It's always drunk. Good for you, Indianapolis. That's a huge win, but perhaps that's the reason why McKinnon was on the field more. Other studs this week at running back. Devin Singletary, 11 targets, 9 for 78 and a touchdown. I don't know if this was a product of Miami's pass rush and just being available in the middle of the field. He doesn't normally get that kind of passing game work, but it seemed like the Zach Moss experiment was slightly minimized. I don't know if the snap counts. We're up on Singletary. Do you have that number in front of you, Kyle? Can you look at that? I can look at it. Take a look to see, because it seemed like Singletary was out there more because he was playing against Jason. Yeah, that is the reason. And so if he's not playing for your team against me, I doubt. We'll play again later this year. We'll let the Fuckland know when to start Devin Singletary. It's also the rational thing for this team to do. Devin Singletary is really good. He's a good player.

He just doesn't usually get the volume and the workload. Whenever he's received it, he's been great. I mean, he won people fantasy championships at the end of last season when they were giving him the usage. And he had 20 opportunities this week alone. So going forward, you've got to keep an eye on him. 73% of snaps, Moss at 17%, cook at 12. That's a huge difference in his involvement. James Robinson can't be stopped. 17 for 101. Play him. Did he get stronger? He did get stronger. Can we get like the other Achilles? Just, you know, what if he busted that one? Double double. He'd probably just unstoppable. Doug Peterson is helping this team. Yes. Ramandre Stevenson, 12 for 73 in a rushing touchdown, five targets. Looked pretty good. Some of that promise people were hoping for is going to get rough without Mack Jones. So, you know, maybe he can benefit from a.

You know, if they're losing to Green Bay, Ramandre could be out there catching passes next week. And Damian Pierce, 2480 in a touchdown. Looked pretty good. Last two weeks combined. Pierce has 35 carries and three targets. Burkhead has three carries. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, Kyle. Is that an original? I've heard it places. The Achilles steel. That's what they're calling James Robinson. Okay. Yeah, okay. Steel of the draft, the RB2 on the year. Okay. Okay. It took you a second. It did. It did. Because I wasn't thinking about like draft day value. Okay. But now you are. Yeah. All right. Quick break and then we're into the wide receiver studs. The Achilles was actually, you know, they lost this week. James Robinson looked good. Cardinals made Cam Acres look good. Yep. You talked about Daryl Herenderson. I mean, it's because Cam Acres is on the field a ton. Just needed some confidence. He got it from a.

We've got another Achilles. Bird City football. Bird City football, whatever it is. It's stupid. Tird City football. We'll see Sturring Shepherd out there tonight against his Achilles. All right. Jason, Devante Smith, 12 targets, 8 for 169, multiple highlight reel catches from the should I drop him, Devante Smith managers, week one. Hopefully you didn't, but I know. There was no player on people's bench more than Devante Smith this week. Yeah, I mean, that's the one that because he went off in such glorious fashion, it will feel the worst. He, now that you see that the Eagles, you know, at the end of last year, it was like, well, they were such a run heavy team. Are they going to pass the ball? Are they going to open it up enough? Yes. They have tried to do that.

It has worked to great success. Hertz will continue throwing the ball. You have to start Devante Smith. That does not mean he's going to be great. Week in and week out wide receivers are inconsistent, but he is obviously very talented. AJ Brown was great, too, five for 85 and a touchdown. Matt Collins. Matt Collins filling in for Hunter Renfro and filling in for Devante Adams. Let's go, Mac. There's nothing. If you have Devante Adams as a fantasy manager and then you, on the other side of the field, Matt Collins goes for eight for 158 in a touchdown. That is the kind of thing that you will feel like Jason this week. Yeah. Yeah, you feel like why do you keep throwing it to Adam feeling instead of. We did. Yeah, we both started Matt Collins against you and the draft Kings. Yeah, pivoting from him moments before the show was a bad decision. But Matt Collins, big week, Hollywood Brown, 17 targets, 14 receptions, 140 receiving yards.

And despite not getting into the end zone the last two weeks is the wide receiver 13 on the on the year. Well, he did get into the end zone two weeks ago. They just didn't credit him with the touchdown. But this is what you were hoping. To start the season was the target volume that all it took was more and more injuries to the wide receiver court. And they took a deep shot to him in the third quarter of this game. Barely missed. Yeah, they set up this play. It was like one of the two times that Kyler threw it more than.

four yards. And that would have, you know, been an explosive week. I was going to say 140 total yards on 17 targets. Yep. Is do-do. No, I mean, everything is. That is terrible. I told you. It's great for fantasy. I told you in the game, Mike. It was he's running the Hopkins route bush plan where you are close to the line of scrimmage. And it's just it, I don't want to get started on the Cardinals because we don't have enough time. Like someday we'll just create a Trash the Cardinals podcast. And again, I don't know if we'll have enough time or the hard drive space for that. We'll have to look into the cloud. Yeah, we'll have to look into that. Amari Cooper, we talked about him, Zay Jones. Zay Jones is going to be talked about tomorrow because through three weeks, very involved in this Jacksonville offense, 11 targets, scored 10 for 85. He was on the cusp of really being a pickup this past week.

It was great. Yep. And Christian Kirk continues to be great. I had my concerns for him for this week against the Chargers. I didn't realize that they were taking the week off for all aspects of football. And Christian Kirk ended up with six for 72 of the touchdown. He looks, I mean, that he is not finished lower than the wide receiver 20 on the week. He is paying off massively for the Jaguars. That contract. I mean. If Christian Kirk is here, I mean, he's unlocking, I think, a lot of this offense. Chris Olavee. Yeah, baby. 13 targets, 9 for 147 and looks outstanding out there. Always open down the field and has a quarterback willing to chuck it. Those Ohio state wide receivers, they are so fast. I mean, it's just Garrett Wilson and Chris O'Lave, whenever they're on the field,

They look like they're just... A different speed. A different speed than the defenders. It's, you know, similar to Waddle and Tyreek. Apparently, all you need to do is just go get the world's fastest people. Not always, because that was like, that was the Raiders strategy. Darius Hayward Bay. For a really long time. You also need them to be able to catch and run good routes. But Olave looks like a must start moving forward. Yes. Russell Gage had 13 targets. He was... The de facto numero uno. He won the lottery. I would let other people compete for Russell Gage on the waiver wire. Other stars this week, you know, Isaiah McKinsey looked really good to me, very fast, seven for 76 and a touchdown. Romeo Dobbs. This is the big one. So these other mentions here, you know, Boyd, Parker, McKenzie, I'm not chasing those points. But Romeo Dobbs, the.

Being necessary for the team, number one, the Lizard King on IR, the second round pick, Christian Watson, not able to play. Randall Cobb was questionable with illness coming into the game. We didn't know if he was actually going to play. He did. So it was Alan Lizard and Romeo Dobbs are like the two guys left, and Romeo Dobbs took on the, essentially a wide receiver one role here. He got hot right at the beginning of the game, ends with eight targets. Really? He caught all eight, eight for 73 with a touchdown. I hope people are tuning into Sunday live because. Yeah, this is a mic call on Sunday live. I mean, I'll tooth the horn because I want people to watch the show. We're off to a hot start here. Week one, the stash of the week was Jeff Wilson. Week three, the stash of the week was Romeo Dobbs. So he just, now moving forward, it's like this is the type of performance that you can really build on for.

a rookie in Green Bay and assert yourself over the next few weeks of Sammy Walker's is out for at least three more weeks and if Aaron Rogers builds that trust with Dobbs this becomes very interesting are you guys was it was it enough for you to see that that you're putting Dobbs into a flex position next week um Willing to? Yeah, it was Tampa. I mean, it was the Tampa defense. Yeah, it depends on who else you have to put in. It's going to be the New England defense next week. He's certainly, though, got to be scooped up if he's out there. You know, he's probably their best wide receiver. I mean, I know you love Lazard. I do. But I scored. Yeah, but not much else. He was fine. I'm just saying talent-wise, he looks fantastic and they're going to need him going forward. Mark Andrews paying off on the.

Draft day, price, 13 targets, 8 for 89. Travis Kelsey was 458 in a touchdown. Those two players, you know, I had somebody on Twitter talk about the disappointment, right, with first round running backs right now. It's been tough, right? You're not getting, Jonathan Taylor, two down weeks, Joe Mixing, out. Dalvin Cook, it's been a struggle. You've got the injury. Derek Henry looked good this week, but McCaffrey, not lived up to the billing of superstardom. Alvin Camara, been a disaster. And then people are sitting there and they went, they went in early on Travis Kelsey and Mark Andrews and they have a consistent every week advantage at that position. Right now it's looking like a very wise decision. Yeah, I was so far wrong on Travis Kelsey. I was scared to take him in the first round. I loved Andrews in the second. If you knew that they would be great, then you should be taking those early round.

tight ends, which is why we liked Andrews in the second. You know, and, you know, if it was a guarantee that Kelsey's great all year, the value is, is there in the first. Tyler Conklin is the tight in three in PPR right now. He said seven plus targets in three games went eight for 84. Um, conk, conk. I mean, the NBA Jam rules. Yeah, they are. They say like seven, nine, eight targets. So they say you've got to be in except. The quarterback change. The Flacco change if it goes away from Flacco. I mean, I just don't think that they're going to let Zach Wilson throw the ball 60 times, you know? They might. They probably have to. They very well might, but we just don't know. So it's hard to be like, yeah, pick up and play Tyler Conklin. It also doesn't mean those passes will be near the receivers. Right.

Let's put a pin in the Conklin conversation and go into tight-end waivers tomorrow, putting these guys in order. Njoku had a big week. Jason, you asked me about Goddard and Pitts and who I thought would finish the season better. Both had much better weeks. Kyle Pitts, five for 87, almost all of that, four for 82 in the first half, and then Dallas Goddard scored again. So, you know, our advice would just keep playing Kyle Pitts because a lot of the chasing of these other options is just, You don't have any guarantees in the tied-in world, and at least Pitts has the ability to athletically win against anybody. Yeah, it was easy for him. I mean, they could have thrown it to him more. There was another target that was a pretty big bomb target that was not close to him, but he was wide open. So, yeah, I mean, it was really nice proof of life to see.

that Kyle Pitts can have really good games going forward. I do find it hysterical, though, that Jolani Woods has more career touchdowns now than Kyle Pitts. Oh, that hurts. Yeah, it's wild. So Pitts, though, looked pretty good. They ran the ball like crazy in the second half, too, trying to preserve a chance to win that game. Ripping off 15 yards of carry. All right. Old man's strength. It's time to go over Jason's roster. pooped in his big boy pants. All right. It's time for the duds. Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson. 20 for 33, 184 yards. How many touchdowns? Zero. Okay. Six carries. Okay. For 17 yards. Okay. Let's ride. I want to play a game. You guys want to.

You guys want to play a game? Yes, I do. I'm so excited. Don't play a game with Brooksie? Yeah. This is, uh, what's the name in this game, Brooks? This is called Russell Wilson versus Gino Smith through the first three weeks. Yes. Yes. I am here for this. Okay. So, oh, they both are very close in attempts. Russell Wilson just has four more pass attempts. Oh, okay. Okay. So first question, who has more completions? Russell Wilson or Gino Smith. Oh, I mean, Gino has been super accurate. Yeah, it's got to be Gino. Okay. Gino. It's Gino. Yeah, maybe. 79 completions compared to Russell Wilson's 63. Oh, what a loser, Russ. All right, guys, who has more passing yards? Russell Wilson or Gino Smith. Oh, I love this game. I love this game because it's all going to be Gino. Unlimited. I mean, I know that's.

Well, generally speaking, that's how these games work. Yeah, you want to set one up, right? There's got to be Russ. I still think this might be Wilson. You go, would you say Jason? I'm going, Gina. Okay, this one is Russ. Oh, that's right. What's the difference? 743 to 717. Oh, big deal. Yep. Big deal. All right. Touchdowns, past touchdowns. Oh, gosh. Russ or Wilson or Gina Smith? I mean, does Russ have a passing touchdown? Russ has that one Judy broken play. Oh, that's right. Gino. He has the Metcalf one. He's got, it's Gino. It's Gino Smith. And he is the Will Disley. Did Disley score yesterday? Oh, yeah, he did Big Montana. What? Producers. How was that not in the dock? Unbelievable. At the time. I have to remember everything here. There we go. Yeah, Big Montana. Hey, Will Disney. Big Montana. They just needed to get him a good quarterback like Gino Smith. Didn't he defeat the Achilles as well? Uh, was he Achilles or Patela?

Oh, he might have been Patella. He might have been all of them. Can't keep a good disley down. Impossible. Final answer from the three of us, Gino Smith. Yep, he's got four. Russ just has the two. Oh, he's got two. Yeah. And what matters the most to the fantasy managers, who's got more fantasy points? Gino Smith. Oh, boy. Yep, he's got a few more points. That is brutal. Here's my advice. Who's got more wins? Let's ride. Yeah. Here's my advice. I think, yeah, Dizzy was Achilles. It was? I think he did both. He did do both. He is fully, he is wearing a device. He's got to be. I need to eat more grain and corn. That's country strength. I mean, that's Montana strong, right? Uh-huh. For sure. Oh, yeah. Yes. Will this man. My advice with Russ is to cut bake. This is not going to get, this is not going to go from where it's at to where you want.

fast enough for you to be happy. Do you agree with me? You put him on the waiver wire. You put a little bit of dust over him. Oh, just some leaves and stuff? Yeah, and you just, you set that trap. That someone else in your league is going to see Russell Wilson on the waiver wire. If I saw, honestly, even knowing, like this is our job, knowing exactly what has gone on. If I saw Russ on the waiver wire, part of me would go, ooh. That's Russell Wilson. He's surrounded by elite weapons. He has to turn this around. But does he? Well, did you, did you see K.J. Wright and Richard Sherman's podcast and their conversations about Russ? I did not. Oh, no. I'm sure it was really. They spill in that tea? They're spilling a little, well, they just had the contention that he was very protected by Pete Carroll, that he didn't have the same level of accountability and that he was just put in a better position to kind of succeed.

there and get more of the credit and the defense didn't get a lot of it and and just some oh just some of that they weren't dumping on him yeah oh maybe that might be just a little sour greaves because the defense was truly elite but well that's what you do when you want someone to listen to your podcast but Russ Wilson back in Seattle was a very good quarterback uh Matthew Stafford not a good week well because Cooper Cup ran it in Cooper Cup ran it in and he only had four catches for 44 yards It also was not a good week because Matthew Stafford threw a perfect slant pass to Alan Robinson who was going to walk into the end zone and he dropped it. Had no interest. He had no interest in that touchdown and that meant that Stafford had none. Kyler and Stafford in that game, Kyler had 58 pass attempts. Matthew Stafford had 25. They combined for over 560 yards and zero touchdown. It's impressive. 58.

Attempts turned into 314 yards. 25 attempts turned into 249. Arizona is averaging 4.9 yards per passing play ahead of only the Bears. Feels that way. Who have Equanimia St. Brown instead of the Dorch. Yeah. To headline that. Cool. Carson wins. Oh, the revenge game. The Eagles got the revenge. Yeah. 4200 sacks in that game, something like that. Wait, was that? What was your almost upset? Was it that one? We're not waiting. Okay, it was. Okay. I didn't remember. I didn't remember until this moment. Oh, yeah. Well, hey, look. No one's to, I mean, there's two and one. Yeah. When you bet on Carson Wentz long enough, he will reveal himself to you. Yes. Yes. He will take the mask off. Yes. And underneath, it's Carson Wentz. It takes it off. Oh, you were who I thought you were. Oh, yeah.

You know, what, nine sacks? Wow. What was the game I tried to hit it on? The Miami game. See, if I had gone with the gut on that one. Miami Buffalo. That would have been great. That would have been much smarter. But you didn't. Nine sacks for Carson wins. The Eagles defense is legit. Yeah. Joe Mixing, Leonard Fournette, Alvin Camara, Aaron Jones, AJ Dillon, James Connor. Austin Echler. Just keep going. Javante Williams. It is a dud patrol going on here. I mean, this is, the Javante one is, it drove me crazy. That's what I want to ask about. Let's talk about him. Go ahead. Because if you didn't watch the game, I mean, 15 attempts, three targets, a game script could go that way for Javante Williams. That's not, that's not horrific. That's not horrific. That's not horrific. That's not horrific. But when you look at what happened in this game,

Mike Boone became the third down running back for this team, which means that Giovante was splitting first and downwork with Melvin Gordon. First and downwork, right. First and second down work. I got ahead of myself there. First and second down with Melvin Gordon. And Melvin Gordon got the touchdown. Yeah, it was, I think it's the same song that you just press the repeat button every week with the Jaante situation, which is. Everyone's going to get together in our little echo chamber, and we're all going to tell everyone, each other, how good Javante looked, which he did once again. He looked great. He had one drive where it seemed like every time they hand him the ball, it was 15, 20 yards. And then they're going to play Melvin Gordon. And then you're going to flip a coin on who's around the goal line on that drive. And it looked like there was maybe a higher baseline for Javante with the passing game where getting all the targets. And it didn't happen in this game. I think the...

primary issue here is Russell Wilson. It's the offense as a whole. If the offense is so anemic as to only score 11 points. So if we're saying you drop rust, you cut bait, he's not going to get it figured out, do you worry about the potential high end value of Javante? Because I find myself conflicted where I'm not. confident that Russ and the Broncos are going to figure this offense out in any short order over the next month, while still feeling confident that Giovante will break something off or get his and get going. And I feel like I have thoughts on that. Those probably need to be more in sync, not opposed. Yeah, my thought on that is, look, you're not going to get to where you want to go with Russ in a week or two. But we often give the advice that a rookie running back, Breece Hall, DeAndre Swift during his rookie year.

it takes some time to get them into that position. If it's a month, if we're a month, five, six weeks away, and they do get the offense figured out. And it's a 28 point offense. Then you have a lot of upside with Giovante Williams to finish the year in the same fashion. There were some signs snap count wise. I don't know what they were in this game. I have them. Do you? Because that's my biggest question here. And this is compliments of Nathan. Janky? I think it's Yankee. Yonke. I apologize, Nathan. I don't know how to pronounce you last name, but PFF, he does fantastic work. And so here's what happened for the Denver, the running backs. Mike Boone played eight third downs. The short yardage went to Melvin Gordon. On the goal line, one went to Javante, two went to Melvin Gordon. So, I mean, like, Javante was getting half of the early down work, but short yardage, third downs.

Those went to somebody else, and that's a problem, especially if you're saying short yardage and goal line is not just owned by Giovante Williams. That part is split too, because you can give away the third downs. There's plenty of running backs in the league that, like Nick Chubb and Derek Henry, they're not third down guys. But if you have to split the short and the goal line, that's a... that's an issue. And if that keeps going moving forward, which we don't know that part yet. But if like next week the split looks like this, I think then you might have concerns of where Giovante Williams can actually cap out. 65% of snaps in week two. Do we have a snap count on him in week three yet? We're still waiting to get this back from last night. Okay. So we have 58% week one, 65% week two.

Yeah, I mean, 12 targets in week one. That was anomalous, apparently. You know, Mike Boone, I don't think was available in that game or they didn't make them available. Something to watch. James Connor has been pretty darn bad. He was a game time decision in this game. Cardinals cannot run the football. Connor was, what, 18 touchdowns last year? The entire argument for James Connor was. The Arizona Cardinals have a high-powered offense. And when they get to the goal line, they go to James Conner, which they've done. Like that formula. The second half of that statement is still true. Yes. The first half of the high-powered offense is what's missing. If this offense figures it out, he'll get the touchdowns. And they will be much better with the return of Hopkins and Ron Dan Moore. They say Ronan Moore is a week or two away. Yeah. My question is with, so we're through three weeks. So that means we have still a month until.

Hopkins is back on the field. Is this a trade low, or buy low, essentially, to get James Connor on your team in the hopes that once Hopkins is back, the Cardinals get on track. Maybe they're not what they were last year, but they get back and they're, you know, in the top, at least half of scoring offenses. Yeah, I mean, you can kick the tires. A lot of people need running backs. And if you can buy really low, sure, but I think you're going to have. at least another month of the Cardinals not having a very good offense. And if the Broncos don't have a good offense, at least you have explosiveness in Giovante, you don't have that in James Connor. Right. Darrell Henderson experiment, four carries, one target. Cam Acres usage has gone up. The snap count has gone up. Five opportunities for Darrell Henderson, 12 for Cam Acres. I mean, the script has flipped, and that means that I don't want either.

Okay, Miles Sanders did not give you a good week. No, he did not get the... They kept throwing the football. Yeah. He got 15 carries. It was surprising that he didn't find more success. I think the... Are you panicking about Alvin Camara? Yeah, a little bit. I mean, you're... I think you're hoping that the packages in practice were more skewed towards Mark Ingram to... provide more rest for Alvin Kamara coming off of the rib cartilage injury. So there's still hope that as he gets healthier, that he'll get more work. But I mean, Camara's third down work where he's been so good was really going to Mark Ingram. 10 to 4 on third down snaps. Ingram scored a short touchdown as well. Let's talk about. Yeah, okay. Is it time? Yeah, let's do it. Jason, the floor is yours. Austin Echler.

Well, you had four carries in this game. Total. You had two carries each half. That is. Yeah, but how many yards did he get on those four carries? I got five of them. Five. There's no five years. Four carries five yards. First round superstar. What is going on? 45 pass attempts for Herbert 48 the week before. Yeah. They're not running the ball, but when they run the ball, it's not. Always Austin Echler. They are using Sony Michelle. They've used him on the goal line. They've used him for short yardage situations. He had five carries, I believe. 23% of snaps for Michelle, 21% for Josh Kelly that puts Austin at 55%. Is there a sad 55? Yeah. That was it. That was the sad 55. So.