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Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - The Fantasy Court with Judge Giamatti

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Give some love to Brooks. I just think you're looking fine today. You're handsome and you're the best worker I've ever seen. And I think the people need to know how great a man you are. And I am honored to be the co-owner in our league of record with you. All right. Let's start this segment. All right. I was actually going to thank pristine auction for a second here before we get in. But that was a good transition. So let's just start it. And we'll get, we'll talk about pristine a little bit later. The fantasy court.

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with Judge Giamatti. Plaintiff Andy Holloway is charging Jason Moore with concealing evidence in his love for Rob Kelly. Oh, it's true, Your Honor. Your Honor, I contend that the defendant, Jason Moore is once again concealing evidence. And in this case,

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It's about Rob Kelly and his prospects for the 2017 fantasy football season. Not that I'm surprised, Your Honor, because I've seen this type of thing in court before, and we call them one-season wonders. And they are occasionally overdrafted due to the concealing of key evidence, as Jason is prone to do. Can I call your attention to the precedent set?

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In the case of Zach Stacey in 2013, just under 1,000 yards, seven touchdowns from Zach Stacey of the Rams, and it led people, just like it's leading them to believe in Rob Kelly, that Zach Stacey was their leading runner. But instead, what did the Rams do? The Rams went out and they drafted Trey Mason, and Zach Stacy was slowly pulled out of the rotation. I see the same thing happening here in Washington, all right, and I'll tell you why.

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I'm going to reveal some of this evidence. First of all, I think this is why the Redskins drafted a top talent in Samage-P-Rine. We saw the Redskins last year with Matt Jones. He was the number one for a time, for a short while. But instead they go, they draft Samaj-P-Rine, and I don't think they'd do that if they believe that Rob Kelly was a long-term solution. But here's the evidence, okay? Here's the concealed evidence that is not reflected in Jason's ranking of...

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Rob Kelly, which is about 20 spots higher than mine. From weeks 1 through 7, Rob Kelly, I'll give you credit. You were amazing. 4.78 per carry for weeks 1 through 7. Well, his first 7 starts, which came after that. Please. I apologize. Silence yourself. I object. Weeks 1 through 7. However, from weeks 9 through 14, which were the majority of the weeks in which he had high carry counts, that yard per carry plummeted to, Your Honor.

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3.3 yards a carry or joick bell range as my opponent once upon a time contended. So 3.3 a carry is why Samajapy rhyme was drafted. The undrafted Rob Kelly is unfortunately going to end up a cautionary tale of a first and second down runner who offers you nothing in the passing game.

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and has his quantity-based production cut into by a talented rookie in Somaget, P. Ryan, and so I ask your honor to please cease this needless deception brought about by the defendant for the benefit of our listeners, Your Honor. Is it my turn to talk now, talk some reason? Defend yourself. To this court? All right. First of all, we've got to start with the quality of the argument. I mean...

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Rob Kelly didn't get his first start until week eight of the season. So already we can put some question marks into our mind as far as how this data we just heard. Is it true? Is it not true? In fact, the first seven weeks, he only got 14 carries combined. He wasn't even active in the first three games for the actual Washington Redskins those first few weeks. When he got his start,

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Over the next few games, he was not just good, he was great. His 16-game pace from the time that he was the starter, which, I mean, you can extrapolate, you know, sometimes you go, well, you can't just take a guy's second half of the year or his first half of the year and extrapolate it. But in every single game, he was actually the starter, which was, you know, a half a season. I think that that is fair to do. Over that time,

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He would have had 1,068 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns with a nose for the end zone and would have finished as the RB 13 through that time period. Now, that's ahead during that same time period of running backs Jay Ajay, Frank Gore, Todd Gurley, Isaiah Crowell, Carlos Hyde, Lamar Miller, Ty Montgomery, Spencer Ware, and many others that maybe you haven't even heard of.

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Much has been made of his yards per carry over the second half of the season, as Andy said. And really, when they talk about that, it's the second half of his season. So the last quarter of the season, the second half of when he was playing. And I get that. When you look at it as a whole, it sounds really bad. Objection, weeks 8 through 14. Here's what happened during those weeks. During those weeks, he had two games that were really bad. You know, just like every player has.

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Crap the bed bad. You're talking nine carries for eight yards. Well, yeah, that's, you know, first, that was against a great defense. The two best defenses they played during that time were his two, you know, bad games, and they came in that stretch. So I'm not going to go ahead and say, well, that just means he was breaking down and bad over that time. So I think his yards per carry were just fine. But a lot it's been made about Samajai Piron, as you said. Well, Samajai...

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Pyrine is a back that they passed on for the first three rounds. They could have drafted him in third. They said no. He was the ninth running back taken. This is not a high draft capital they had to take. In fact, he only went five picks ahead of Tarek Cohen, who no one is worried about, you know, encroaching in on Jordan Hill or Jordan Howard. So I don't think Samaja, in the end, I think Rob Kelly's a good back. He's proven he can get it done.

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It doesn't make sense to replace him the way that they replaced Matt Jones. That one made sense. Everyone knew he was a bad back. Analysts, fans, everyone knew. He's super inefficient and not good. I believe Rob Kelly keeps the job, and he is, my bud, F.R. 4L, Fat Rob for Life. All right. What's the verdict over there? Judge Giamatti rules in favor of the defendant. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I have no doubt.

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You would do that. You like Rob Kelly. You're just looking better and better over there, Judge. All right. First case in the books. Before we move on, I do want to thank Pristine Auction for supporting this podcast. That's where we got the three autographed jerseys. We're given away. They're the absolute king of the autograph memorabilia, not just for football, but for every sport, for music, for all sorts of different things. You can find an autographed Mike Tyson.

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is charging defendant Andy Holloway with defamation of character and conspiracy to paint Keenan Allen as an old busted has been. That's right, Your Honor. I charge Andy Holloway with a defamation of character because he does not remember who Keenan Allen really is. He sees someone who hasn't played in two years.

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I grant you that. I cannot argue that he has not played because he was injured. So, of course, he gets this label. He's injury prone. But if you look a little deeper, the injuries that he has sustained were more fluky, right? You have an ACL knee injury, which happens to all sorts of great players who come back over and over, especially when it happens when they are young. Think about your...

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players who get the ACL done in college and come back great. Well, the thing is with Keenan Allen is you think, well, he's been absent the last two years. You don't realize he's still only 25 years old. He lost the season to a lacerated kidney. That's a fluky, weird accident. Now he's back at OTAs, running full speed routes. He's looking great to be a full participant in training camp. This is a guy.

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who has a great quarterback, legitimate potential for 100 receptions, and the incoming rookie that everyone was so scared of like, what does this do to Keenan Allen? Well, he's injured now. And that's going to set a rookie back pretty far. So I say to you, Andy Holloway, you have Keenan Allen far too low in your rankings as the wide receiver 32. I do. I do him at 32. Your Honor, and Jason has him at.

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an unfathomable 15 in the rankings. And I just want to say this. You can accuse me of defamation of character, but he has defamed his own character. You can call it luck. You can call it bad luck. You can call it lacerated kidney, then a torn ACL. But the prosecutor here wants me to hand the keys of my fantasy kingdom to my coveted wide receiver 2 spot to a player that hasn't played a full game since 2014.

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That's three years to a player that, while we all can agree, and I can openly say, is quite talented. He's never had an 80 reception season. He scored just four touchdowns this sophomore year. And he has to prove to me now that he's healthy. I love the player that we briefly saw in 2015 and the pace and the presence. But I can't give him the benefit of the doubt anymore because too many variables have changed. Melvin Gordon, Hunter, Henry, Mike Williams, Travis Benjamin, Tyro Williams.

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What do they have in common? They all weren't on the team the last time he played a full game. And I have him quite reasonably, I think, Your Honor. A wide receiver three with wide receiver two upside on a team with an aging quarterback and potentially changing offensive philosophy to some degree now that they have an actual running back. And their quarterback did lead the league in interceptions. And so for me it's as simple as risk reward. And I cannot and will not allow myself.

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to be lured by the past production and hopes when I could draft Jarvis Landry, Michael Crabtree, Brandon Marshall, Julian Edelman, all at the same draft day value. I can't out and I won't, Judge Diomati. And your honor shouldn't either. All right. All right. I've heard both sides. All right. Judge Giamati rules in favor of the defendant. Andy Hollowing. Yeah, I knew that one was coming.

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I will be honest with the Foot Clan because what we're actually here, you know, look, we want to be entertaining, but the truth is we want to give you good info. I wrote down mid everything. I put Keenan too high down arrow. I can't drive Keenan in 15. Okay, neither can Jay Gris. Yeah, thanks. So it's unanimous here. I will agree with that. However, this next one. Yeah, this next one's going to be my toughest case, but we'll see here.

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Plaintiff Andy Holloway is charging Jason Moore with felony entrapment of fantasy owners with his current ranking of Dak Prescott, as well as a minor count of public intoxication. All right, let's get into this one. It's true. I am charging you, Jason. Where is the public intoxication come from? Well, we'll get to that. Your Honor, I hereby present my case against Jason Moore, and I'm accusing of...

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him of what I call felony, fantasy entrapment. Ranking Dak Prescott at number seven. And by doing so, giving me reason to question if a minor charge of public intoxication is necessary in this case. Because I can't find another reason why he would do that. How have we come to the point, my friend, that we are simply willing to bestow fantasy greatness upon a player after one, admittedly somewhat impressive season?

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