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Week 12 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Endangered Penguins

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So I hope you're, and we've had some epic matches before, Brooks. You stopped my perfect season once before. And then you destroyed me in the playoffs. Yes, yes. And here we are again. It's going to be fun. Oh, I remember that perfect season. That was the worst. And I lost it at like, I was like 12 and 0 or something like that. I lost on like the last week from Brooks or second to last week. I did win that title though. You did? Yeah. Yeah, he did. Interesting. I really did. The loss didn't really hold me back.

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Yeah, well, you didn't go on defeat. That was back when Todd Gurley was Gurley. Aaron Rogers, 20 for 33 for 104 yards. How good is Kyler Murray? I mean, I mean, think about this. Because he actually put points up on San Francisco. San Francisco's defense is just, they're legit. They are so hard to move the ball on and do anything on. And, and Kyler Murray played him two out of three weeks, had great fantasy days.

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The Cardinals were the closest to beating them twice than almost anybody else in the league has done. A graphic came up on the Red Zone channel yesterday. If you look at the numbers for Tom Brady and Kyla Murray heading into this past week. Passing numbers? Passing numbers. So you're talking yardage, pass a rating, touchdown to interception ratio, average yards per target, everything. Total, they're almost identical across the board. Total yardage, everything.

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except one of these guys is electric with his feet and can pick up first downs and touchdowns on the ground. A lot of, and he's a top five guy right now, Kyler Murray, in terms of on the season. So a lot of optimism for the future. If you have Kyler Murray in a Dynasty League, and if you're a Cardinal fan, you got some hope. Sure. Aaron Rogers, though, very, very disappointing performance.

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not to rub salt in the womb, but it was like last week it was Aaron Rogers or James Winston. Aaron Rogers are, you know, do you take the matchup situation or do you take the guy that can go out there and give you a number one week? And the truth is he's not, that number one week against Oakland was the mirage that will bury you for Aaron Rogers because he's finished outside the top 20.

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five times. And that is a huge difference. We're talking about, okay, Russ finishes as quarterback 14. When you finish outside the top 20, you're talking about nine points, you know, 10 points. Like, games that are, those are now a really... He gets the Giants in Washington. That's his next two matchups. That's really good. I mean, I'm in. I'm in on Rogers for those. But if, like, if you're depending on Aaron Rogers right now for your...

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Playoff run, two of the games are Chicago and in Minnesota. I'm out. I will be looking to move on. He started the year with Chicago and Minnesota. Both were very poor games. Denver, who's a good past defense, poor game. Then he played Philly where they had no secondary at all. They were all injured, torched him, was the number two quarterback. If you look and just go through matchups, good or bad, Dallas the next week, that's a bad matchup. He was bad.

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Detroit the next week. That's a good matchup. He was good. So Aaron Rogers. I would. Do you think he's begging for Mike McCarthy back? No. No. Because they're eight and three. Yeah. If I have Aaron Rogers, I'm playing him the next two weeks. But get your, get your quarterback ready for weeks 15 and 16. So you aren't tempted.

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He is going to be a siren because I think you'll have great weeks. Which will make it hard to bench him against Chicago. And it will make it very difficult. So have your plan ready so you don't crash your boat into the rocks. Find a lawyer write up a contract with yourself that forces you. The contract will force you to pull him from the last. That's what you do. 100%. Come week 15, you drop Aaron Rogers for the quarterback you're picking up.

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And your opponent's going to go, oh, is this going to be a thing? Are we going to get all of our listeners to drop Aaron Rogers heading into Chicago? And then they're going to pick them up and go, oh, I'm going to play against you. What an idiot. Landmine. Send us a picture of if Aaron Rogers drop heading into Week 15. Oh, all right. Although Minnesota is actually not the worst matchup for passing. Yeah, but it's in Minnesota. Divisional matchup on the road. Here's the thing. I have two other players I want to talk about in the stinkers at quarterback. The first one.

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I couldn't be more disappointed in a performance from a team than I was this week with the Oakland Raiders. I invited the entire team to come over, and I had a very fatherly, I'm disappointed with you discussion. They're all grounded, no devices, no friends, no TV, early bedtime for a while. I couldn't have, what an egg they laid. Just disgusting performance from car.

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from the entire offense, from the defense. I mean, there were people that thought about starting the Raiders defense this past week. It was nice when you invited them over. It was a short trip from Oakland because they were not in New York. They never made that trip. No, they did not. So that was so disappointing. They got smashed 34 to 3. Derek Hart was not streamworthy like we thought he would be 15 for 27, 127 yards. Got pulled at the end of that. It didn't even finish the game. Not because.

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I mean, it wasn't like he got benched for play. It was just, we've got no chance to win this game. Let's keep him healthy and get back to Oakland. Carson wins. Here was the funny thing, and I tweeted this out. He passed the ball 45 times. He completed 73% of his passes. He had his highest yardage total in five weeks. That was his highest? Yes, 256 yards. He took part in four turnovers.

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Fantasy owners more than anybody else. What do I do? What do they do with Carson Wins against Miami next week than the Giants in Washington? These next three weeks should be auto smash Carson Wins plays. And do you really look at it and say, yes, if Lane Johnson is there? Or yes, if Alshon Jeffrey is there? Or are you not willing to burn down with Carson Wins right now? Because these three matchups should be, he should be winning a playoff game. If Lane Johnson and Alshon Jeffrey are both active,

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I'm playing him in these matchups. You know, we've seen. You're in this situation. I have him. You're going into the playoffs. You have Carson Wins. I've got Carson Wins and now Ryan Tanne Hill. And if Lane Johnson and Alesson Jeffrey are available for the next game, I will play Carson Wins. If those guys aren't there, then that's a real, that's a real pivot. I mean, he's not a bad quarterback. He has been playing poor. He's trying to do way too much. There were a lot of drops in this game, too.

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Not that he is to be blamed immensely, but there were drops and he's missing all his weapons. Yeah, you'd like to see him hit those, you know, eight-yard running backs that are wide open right in front of them instead of launching it down the field over and over. But if he had weapons that could catch the ball, I mean, he's playing with backups to the backups across the board. So this is just a matter of what weapons he has available. You know, Miami, the Giants, the Redskins, these are salves for poor play.

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Yeah, it'd be a tough bench in those ones. And they're big games for the Eagles as a whole because you look at this. They should win their next three games on paper and then be facing Dallas who has tough matchups. And that could be the division, that final game against Dallas. So let's look at running backs. He was one of the ones I invited over. Josh Jacobs, 10 for 34. I mean...

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Very bizarre. Only in on 39% of snaps. Like, what, what are you doing? What are you doing? I think you genuinely, this is, you know, I think this is a throwout game. I'm not going to overreact to Derek Carr's poor player, just Jacob's involvement or whatever the game script was. This game got out of hand super early, a defensive touchdown early for the Jets. It's just, this is one where you crumple it up.

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put it in the garbage can and act like the week didn't happen. That's how I view the whole Oakland side of things. You have to with the amount of touches Jacobs was getting. And when they win, he's great. 24 touches, 62% of snaps, seven touchdowns in their victories, no touchdowns, 14 snaps, 48% of snaps, I'm sorry, 14 touches, 48% of snaps and all their losses. Aaron Jones. It was not an Aaron Jones day. Yeah, I mean, if your name's not King and Drake, you can't run against 49ers.

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Well, here's the thing. I just did a quick look. So Aaron Jones, I mean, 13 carries. It was terrible, 38 yards. Last week, 13 carries, 93 yards and three touchdowns. But here's what I wanted to look at. Devante Adams has been back for three weeks. Aaron Rogers, number one passing target. In those three games, Aaron Jones now has four targets total. And that was when he would, before that,

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Seven targets, eight targets, seven, four, eight when Devante Adams was out. That's a big deal. Now, Aaron Jones is still a top running back, at least a top 24 running back. Then I'm going to play a week in a week out. But that's very concerning. If he is now non-involved in the passing game, because Devante Adams is back, hogging these targets.

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That's a problem. Yeah, I mean, Jamal Williams was still involved in the passing game. Jamal Williams will always be involved, though. He's not going anywhere. No, no, no, I know. I'm saying he's bringing up the eight targets for Jamal Williams. Yes, the eight targets for Jamal Williams this last game. I don't think they're trying to make some declaration that Jamal Williams is the past catching guy, and it's not Aaron Jones because they've used both guys this season. I think it just so happened that the drives, you know, they kind of split drives.

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And, you know, when Jamal Williams was in was when the ball was being looked that way. I'm not, I'm not cooling on Aaron Jones. This was a really tough match. There's like real negative game or real positive game script for the running back to catch some targets against the Chargers three weeks ago. And he caught one pass. Well, without Devante Adams, Jones's four was higher than it seems to be right now. Chris Carson stunk it up. We've talked about him. Whether he's punished, I think that punishment.

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the extent of that will simply be, you know, some reduced snaps. It's not going to be a benching. They can't afford that. David Montgomery was awful. Just awful. He's averaged three yards per touch over his last three games. He is not trustworthy. And that's hard because next week is Detroit. Detroit is, they've been ranked dead last and fancy points given up to running back. Okay. Yeah, it's tough. You know, Benny Snell might be a better play. You know what I mean than David Montgomery.

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David McComery. Sequin Barclay. Oh, no. That one. He had two receptions, including a really bad drop. This is where I don't understand is.

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Why are they not getting him involved in the passing game? I mean, I get it. You want running backs on teams that are winning when you're losing. You're not that great for fantasy, except last year when Sequin was on a terrible Giants team, and they dumped him the ball over and over, and he made big plays. Yeah, well, I've been running from Sequin for the last two weeks, and I don't want him in the playoffs because we don't know what the true health of that ankle is.

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and what that involvement means in the offense on a bad team with tough matchups. They have to go into Philadelphia after they play Green Bay. After that, it's fine. After that, you get Miami in Washington. Miami's Week 16, though, right? So that would be a very nice capstone if you're in the title game, but you've got to get there. I just think that Saquan isn't, you know, two receptions. That's a problem. Yeah, it's a big problem. That's a big problem. And so he hasn't given you a big game in a while.

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And this is the Chicago defense, they were allowing a huge market share to the running back. In terms of receptions? In terms of receptions and Sequin with just the three targets. Very troubling indeed. Well, and Chicago was in the game. I'm sorry, the Giants were in the game. So it just seems like you're not going to get those kind of performances from him right now. Anybody else who want to talk about at the running back position before we jump into the...

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Kind of just like the Jalen Samuels as the de facto go-to full-time handcuff for James Connor. I'm like, that's gone. Poof. Yeah. Benny Snell. Snow looked pretty good. And he, yeah, Benny Snow is, he's fine. 21 for 98. It was a very plus matchup against the Cincinnati Bengals. But once again, this just means if James Connor is actually healthy and playing, he's the dude.

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But Jalen Samuels is close to worthless unless you're in a full point PPR. Yeah, I've downgraded him to Jalen Samuel. You're taking away letters? I'm taking away the duplication. You didn't just go like full Jalen like Samu? No, he's just one man now. He's disappearing like back to the future. Pretty much. Wide receivers, we've talked about it. Amari Gooser. He's dead. He's dead to me. He's dead to me. Kind of.

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