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Mid Round Madness + Waiver Tips, Leeches - Fantasy Football Podcast

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in the sense that lower passing volume, but huge gameplay ability to win you a week. And that's, if you're taking your wide receiver three or four, that's kind of what you want more than just a, you know, a Cole Beasley-esque. I've got some, you know, I got guaranteed nine points a game. I think a lot of, yeah, I think a lot of people will be taking them in the fifth round, six round. But you're right. And, you know, that's what Mark Andrews is on that team, by the way. He's not the kind of, you know,

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He's touchdown dependent, lower passing volume. He makes a big play, but he can disappear as opposed to players like Kittle and Kelsey. So Hollywood, great target in the middle rounds. Mike, you're up. So speaking of first year wide receivers, I wanted to lay out a blind player comparison here for you guys. So here were the Marvin Jones. How did you know it's going to be Marvin Jones? It's always Marvin Jones.

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It's not Marvin Jones. So here are some players, two wide receivers. They were coming in the league. And here, their athletic profile, okay? One wide receiver, 6-3, 220 pounds, ran a 4-3-9. That's absolutely incredible. Marvin Jones. His rookie season, he put up 959 yards and eight touchdowns. That's an absolute great season. I think I know who that is. Okay. Okay.

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Well, how about this rookie? Six foot, 210. So, you know, comparable in size, not the exact same size, ran a 435. And his rookie year, he put up 919 yards and seven touchdowns. And what are we supposed to do here? I'm just laying out that those are very, very close, right? Those are similar players, similar production their rookie year. That's Julio Jones and Terry McLaurin.

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They are both very large. They are both very athletic. There is a difference in perception, though, because Julio Jones was a top 10 pick, and Terry McLaren fell to the third round. So people still think about Terry McLaurin a little bit different, and he is dropping down into the middle rounds. And I think he is an absolute phenomenal target for a breakout.

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He wins in all aspects of the game as a wide receiver. Reception perception, which is, if you're not familiar with it, it is a methodology available in the ultimate draft kit that takes a look at route running by wide receivers. Matt Harmon charted Terry McLaurin and said, this is the third best rookie against press coverage that he has charted, the top two being Odo Beckham and Tyreek Hill. So that puts him in pretty solid company.

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Terry McGlorn should have easily hit 1,000 yards as a rookie. He unfortunately missed a few games. And like I said, his comps, in terms of production, the rookie year, he's right next to Julio, he's right next to Juju, he's right next to Andre Johnson. He's a top 4% speed player. He is the absolute unquestioned number one on this team. You know, we had a little bit of that off-season.

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Who was the player? It wasn't Antonio Brown, but they were Sammy Watkins. I think they were, there was rumor mill stuff that Sammy Watkins was going to go there. No. And then they had, they lost Kelvin Harmon to an ACL. So they brought in Dantrell Inman. Antonio has some Gandy Golden. Look, Terry McLaurin is the number one guy on this team. And you might be thinking, okay, well, Dwayne Haskins, it's a situation. I get, Dwayne Haskins, he's not my favorite.

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quarterback heading into next year. But we saw signs that he was getting better. He did finish this is Dwayne Haskins. He finished with two divisional games with a passer rating over 120 in both of those games. Six of his seven passing touchdowns came in the final three games. Dwayne Haskins, the game started to slow down. He started to get better. Now he has an entire off season where he's, uh,

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The starter. You started off with Case Keenham. Haskins was going to be a project. They knew that. He was forced in. But now he gets the chance to shine and show that he's worth that top. I think it was a top 15 pick in the NFL draft. But Terry McLaurin, man, I don't fully understand his draft pick except for the Dwayne Haskins part. The talent, the production as a rookie. Guys don't put up over 900 yards as rookies.

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We get kind of jaded and think that it happens all the time, but it really does not. He had really, really strong monster production for a rookie. And I think that he, if he, like Andy's talking about second year, if Terry McLaurin takes that step, like Terry McLaurin could be a top 20 wide receiver. Yeah, I mean, the fact he's the go-to guy is important to the equation. I mean, when I think about more probable outcomes to me for Terry McLaurin, it's the Calvin Ridley experience. It's the.

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Great rookie season, identical second season. I mean, last year, he had a lot of targets as a rookie. I mean, it was almost 100 targets in 14 games. I don't know if you want to see him stand next to Julio Jones physically. But, I mean, you're not going to get complaints on the talent level in any regard from Terry McClurens. Are you comfortable with him as your two all season long? Yes. Okay. And what is his ceiling? When you talk about year two, obviously he didn't, you know,

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His ceiling to me is a top 15 wide receiver. Even in this Washington situation. Yes. We have seen wide receivers when they're the unquestioned one, they are the target hog, and they have the talent to match the opportunity. We've seen bad teams sustain huge outlier wide receiver one performances before. Yeah, I do think it requires Haskins to

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step forward to really take, you know, if you look at this season, because in the realm of possibility, you say, okay, he was good with Haskins last year. He was about as good as he was with Keenham. Well, that's fine, but you're not drafting him to be what he was last year. Right now when you draft him, you're drafting him to be better than that, to take that step forward. And I don't think that can happen unless Haskins steps forward. I mean, you brought it up. You said, you thought Haskins is the reason.

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that he's not being drafted as a top guy. It is the reason, and I think it's a fair reason. But we like the talent, and you heard it here, he is Julio Jones, right? Terry McLaren, Julio Jones. Incredible. He meant to say Mike Wallace. Oh. No, he's great. I wanted to look at something real quick before we leave Terry McLaren because I've been looking at it all week when thinking about players like,

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McLauran because I don't think Washington is at the top of people's list for offenses to target. Offenses to target or teams that are going to be in the upper half of the NFL, right? When you're thinking about records and where they're going to end up. But last year, if you take a look at who finished in the top 12, and I like looking at this at every position,

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teams that made the playoffs, that type of situation. At wide receiver, you can do a lot of damage on a bad team. And that's kind of my point. I mean, you know, Cooper Cup probably doesn't fit that mold. They didn't make the playoffs, but they weren't a bad team. Kenny Gallaudet was the sixth wide receiver last year. He was on a really bad team. DeVante Parker. Kenny Gallaudi also had a bad quarterback situation. Yeah, Devante Parker finished seventh at the position. Keenan Allen finished eight. Those were all losing teams. Alan Robinson finished 11th on a losing team.

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And, you know, Mike Evans, Jarvis Landry, the next two guys on that list. Not great teams. Right. So DJ Chark as well. So there is a precedent for players, obviously, in today's NFL where you're coming back, where you're throwing the ball. It's one of the reasons you like DJ Chark for them to be able to finish at that level. Love me a bad defense. Now, fantasy loves a bad defense. And over the course of the year, I wonder if that caps your, you know.

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Boom games when you don't have a quarterback you can rely on to have that kind of monstrous performance where a team comes out. It's not like Washington is going to come out and mop the floor with the opposition on an offensive perspective. So that three touchdown game, that monstrous difference making game might not happen. A three touchdown game that, yeah, I won't say there's going to be a lot of those for Terry McLaurin, but built into Terry McLaurin's talent and is.

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One play. He has the Deshaun Jackson ability to one play. I've made my, I've met my threshold for my fantasy points for the week. But on top of that, he's going to have a huge target share. It won't be just four targets a game for Terry McLaurin. Yeah. Yeah. I think we're all fans of Terry McLaurin. The guy that I want to bring up is.

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Someone that is, I think right now, criminally undervalued. He's probably, you said who's your favorite mid-round target? This guy is quickly becoming my favorite mid-round target. It's Tyler Lockett. Unlimited. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Fuck, Klan. If you haven't seen these videos of Mr. Unlimited. What is happening? Russell Wilson is losing his mind. No, he has to be trolling.

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He has trying to have a personality. No, he can't. That can't be a robot trying to have a personality. That's what you're seeing. New software? Unlimited. He's trying out his new AI chip. There's no way that those are real. Here's the thing. Well, they're real because you could go watch them. Yeah. And he has filmed it and prepared questions from the background. I mean, this is a whole thing. This is his new alter ego. He still has not deleted the tweets. Like, they're still there. Oh.

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Because he's so smart, he's trolling us. That has to be the only thing I can. Let me ask you this. I'm guessing there's going to be more. Oh, there's definitely going to be more. You know how many? Unlimited. Unlimited. Sorry. That's not fair to you. It's not fair to Tyler. But here's the thing about Russell Wilson. He's a pretty freaking good quarterback. I mean, he's very good. Would you say he's the number two quarterback in the league? That's how I view him. Maybe three.

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Lamar Jackson certainly should be in that range right now. But my point is, he's phenomenal. He's going to get the job done. We don't know for sure if their defense is better or worse or the same as last year. But we do know that they're running back core is a little bit shakier coming into this season than last season. Rashad Penny is injured. The backup now is Carlos Hyde. Chris Carson is...

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injured but should be okay come season time. Tyler Lockett is exceptionally good. You talk about Mount Harmon's reception perception perception. He's always shown very well there as a wide receiver. Two years ago, he got the shot to be the one. He was the wide receiver 15. Last year gets the shot to be the one. Oh no, D.K. Metcalf comes in. Puts up 907. Great. He was the wide receiver 14.

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He is a really good wide receiver. And that was, you talk about, well, there's limited passing volume. Well, there was, yes, there was limited passing volume. You are correct. You're correct. And he was the wide receiver 14. And he was the wide. He's, he is a top 15 wide receiver. Like that's what Tyler Lockett is. And that's with the low passing volume. Should they let Russ Cook, which we've talked about recently, maybe these videos are coming out because he's like.

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Oh, I know some. They're going to take the reins off and I'm going to be Mr. Unlimited. If he has to throw more for any reason, let's say. He's jealous of the Beast Mode brand. He's like, I've got to get my own brand. I know what to do. Keep searching. Step one, motor oil in my hair. Step two. Unlimited. All right. I can't even take it. I mean, so Tyler Locke is being driven down by D.K. Metcalfe. People are afraid. They don't know who the number one is, who the number two is.

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D.K. Metcalf is great. He's phenomenal for this offense. I think he's, I think they're both going to be very good. But in truth, he is ironically more limited when it comes to, you know, what he could do. He's not, he's not the every route wide receiver one on, you know, he's going to be looking for Tyler Lockett when that doesn't happen. He's got a big body in D.K. Metcalfe. Tyler Lockett is being drafted well behind where he should finish.

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He is consistent as well. You talk about the inconsistencies, you know, last half of last year. Russell Wilson let us down for fantasy after that smoking hot start. And you think, okay, well, is he consistent or is he going to give you a bunch of dud games? And the reality is he is actually pretty darn consistent. His bust games percentage-wise over the last two seasons?

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With that team is, he's the 14th best as far as fewest bust games. And if you look at the guys ahead of them, you have Antonio Brown, which this only accounts games played. He was pretty good when he was playing. Devante Adams, Julio Jones, Hopkins, Edelman, Michael Thomas, AJ Green again, only counting the games that he played in, Phelan, Robert Woods, and Mike Evans. This is a list of superstar fantasy options. And then it's Tyler Lockett.

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