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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Free Agent FRENZY! + News & Mailbag

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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Free Agent FRENZY! + News & Mailbag

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It seems certain that he would remain there because he's young, talented. They have the money. He delivered for them last year. He should be rewarded. He's in Cleveland. That's logical, Andy. You're spitting too much fact and logic for... Poor Hugh Jackson. Poor Browns fans. Yeah, that's... They've had to deal with it longer than you. My heart goes out. We know. Yeah, is the...

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The lonely Cardinal fan. We know what it's like. We like when lower level, the downtrodden, they finally start succeeding. So I really want to, as the rest of you guys, do we want to see the Browns elevate. Give me that Browns Jacksonville-IFC title game. Yeah. It's coming. America would be probably very sad, but. I mean, if Trump's going to be president, we can get the Browns in Jacksonville. Anything can happen.

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Travis Benjamin is gone. He has moved over to San Diego. And I've already professed my love and affinity for Philip Rivers this year. And this is only gone to secure that. Well, you don't call him Phillip Rivers. No, I think we got something that we call him Old Man Rivers. Everybody.

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He is going to be a tremendous value in the draft. That won't leave your head just so you know. And the biggest question I've gotten on Twitter regarding Benjamin was, does this hurt Keenan Allen at all? Nope. I think it only helps the chargers as a whole. You charge up that offense. You get another capable guy. So I use the music guy. With Keenan Allen, I think it's fantastic for Rivers, for Allen, for Benjamin.

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I like everything about this signing for San Diego. He's Malcolm Floyd Plus. Yes. That's what he is. So I'm not worried about the Keenan Allen impact. It just means that if Alan gets hurt or somebody gets banged up, you have a little bit more to work with. So go ahead. I just wanted to know. Engage is back. So that we can have logical consistency here. If this helps Keenan Allen by having someone go to cross the field with him, does it hurt Josh Gordon?

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Maybe. Or does it? Or because the temptation is to say, the temptation is to say, oh, this helps Josh Gordon. No, he's the only guy. Oh, this helps Keenan out and he's got someone across the field. The difference is that Josh Gordon has been in that boat before. Right. And he's produced at a number one wide receiver in fantasy football level. And so there are still plenty of free agent wide receivers.

29:12 ↗

I'm sure they will spend a little bit of money on one in the Brian Hartline category, and they'll bring somebody in and compliment Gordon. My philosophy on this type of thing is generally when the entire offense gets better, the ocean goes up, all the ships go up. You're...

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Your chance to score increases because your offense has more power. Look at Randall Cobb. You lost Jordy Nelson. He didn't make Randall Cobb a superstar. There's not a lot of guys who are elite enough to carry the entire offense by themselves. Not everybody's Julio Jones. No. And so let's bring it to the next point here. Well, hold on. I'm going to stay on Benjamin for a second. But don't lose that thought process when we get to Marvin Jones and Golden Tate. So Travis Benjamin, how are you projecting Benjamin himself? We talk about Keenan Allen.

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Benjamin was a valuable fantasy player at, during stretches last year. Right. During stretches. I don't, I think his numbers go down. He was almost a thousand yard receiver. I see him more in that, uh, middle 800 yard range now, maybe the 60. 50 catches, 60 catches. I have them in the 60 catches. Some deep balls. I think I think you said it perfect. He's Malcolm Floyd plus. Sure. But Malcolm Floyd plus a little is.

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Probably not that great for your fantasy team. Better options out there. Good for Rivers. Yes. Fine for Allen. Good for the offense. I love it. And Whiz and Hunt's back, right? He is. So that offense has shown it can perform under Ken Wisenhunt. All right. So a guy that has shown he can do it a little bit without Calvin Johnson, Golden Tate, is still sitting there in Detroit. They bring in Marvin Jones to rescue the fans from the Depression.

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of losing Calvin Johnson, but how good is Marvin Jones? Oh, it's a wash. He's the same as Calvin. He's just going to be the same. Wouldn't someone argue that he kind of is if Calvin's old busted? Oh, they would be arguing ridiculously. They would be so stupid. I think you've got a situation here where you have two of the better wide receiver twos in the league playing on the same team.

31:26 ↗

pretending to be both one A and one B. So what you're going to see as the year goes on is, so like last year, right, you had Eric Decker and Alan Hearns who were in that valuable wide receiver two role that always got the weaker coverage. I think this year it's going to be back and forth between these guys as the year goes on, depending on who they're playing, what their matchups are. I don't think both of these guys are going to have good fantasy op.

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fantasy years this year. There's enough work to go around, but I don't see either one of these guys being head and shoulders above the other to where, oh, you've got to draft this guy first. So I would take whichever one is second when it comes to fantasy draft day, because we don't know who's more valuable. That's pretty much how I look at the Lockett Baldwin situation. Not I, but... I know you don't. I've got a hot take on this, on this signing. On Detroit? Yes.

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The beneficiary of Calvin Johnson leaving is neither of those guys. It is Eric Ebron. Oh. Eric Ebrun is the guy to own at Tide End there. Okay. He has top ten potential. Calvin, even though he wasn't putting up prolific super numbers anymore, was a red zone monstrosity. Now you bring Ebron, they, all the talk about Eberon in Detroit.

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His production during stretches of the season, they want him to be productive. I just think you mix in more goal line activity for Eric Eberon with the loss of Calvin Johnson. Now, Marvin Jones is a gold-line guy. I agree with you. But he's not, Calvin Johnson is the best ever, maybe. I mean, three touchdowns, I think a couple times last year. He runs the fade over and over again. I just think Eric Eberon is somebody that should not be forgotten. We have a lot of tight-ins coming out of...

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the signings today and some guys with opportunities, I just think Ibron should not be lost in the shuffle. I really believe in Eric Ebron. Just saying, putting it out there. Your look is kind of a fatigued. Fatigued of Eric Ebron, because Ebron, to me, has been a guy with all the potential in the world. He's so young. He's so young. I mean, he's just barely had an opportunity. My biggest problem with him. Guess how old Eric Eberon is? I know we don't have the drop. We'll get him. I want you to guess Eric Ebron's age. 24. Mike?

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If we're going to be shocked, I'm going to go 23. He's 22. Wow. He's 22 years old. And don't forget, this is not, you can't be fatigued of a 22 year old who's played two years. He doubled his receptions from year one to year two. Well, when you have like four catches. No, he went from 25 to 47. He had 530 yards last year and five touchdowns.

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Look, he is a third year tied-in candidate. I'm telling you right now. I will say this. I will say this. The reason I'm sour on Ebron is because he drops a lot of really easy catches, you know, those where it's just really frustrating. He's still growing hands. He's 22.

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But the point is well taken. You look at the best receivers in the league, and they often lead the league in drops as well. You're Demarius Thomas and you're Julio Jones. I'm just saying 6-4-245, 22 athletic. It's definitely worth. I'm going to talk you into it, guys. I think you have talked to me towards Young Man River.

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All right. Let's talk about Doug Martin. He probably should have been higher on our list here, but he didn't sign with a new team, so we knock him down a little bit. Not as sexy. What? You're just returning. We already know what we get. He probably drops in the draft because he stayed at the team, which is ridiculous because... Well, that's the big question. What we've seen looking backwards is that normally...

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Players who re-sign and stay on the same team and stay in the same system. Better. Are better than those that change teams. Demarko. DeMarco would have been great last year if he was in Dallas. Oh, man. So the only question here for me with Doug Martin, his value should go up. Well, not up, right? Well, I'm just saying his. It should.

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Production should stay the same. And his value should go up from where he was valued last year tremendously because he was a late round draft guy. Now he was a top running back option this last year. So he should be drafted that way. And I'm not sure. How high would you take Lamar Miller or Doug Martin? Doug Martin without question. Yeah, I would as well. Doug Martin is, he might creep into my top five.

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I don't blame you on that, but I see him as potential. Yeah. Well, so was it a contract year thing? Was that why he played? Five year, $35 million contract. He is going to get the ball. He's in an established offense, which he dominated in. He's going to be in my top 10 for sure and probably climbing higher. I love everything about him. Age.

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Opportunity, ascending offense, ascending quarterback talent, great wide receiver corps. Looks like a hamster. Looks like a hamster. And those guys always rise to the top of my list. You love hamsters. I love anybody who looks like a pet. I mean, that's really what it is. I agree that I like that he's back with the Bucks. I think they're an ascending team, an ascending offense. We've been over it. The receivers are there.

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He's got a great backup in Charles Sims who can spell him from time to time, and we know that the team won't fall apart. So I really like it for Martin. I agree with Andy. He's a top 10 for me. I don't think I'm going to go as high as a top five type of guy, but top 10 for sure. Okay. And what does this mean for Charles Sims? I mean, he had 100, 100 catches. I'm sorry, 100. He had 100 carries last year and 50 receptions. That's great.

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Yeah, he'll be a tremendous, very, very high-end backup slash handcuff. He's a handcuff that has standalone value, which is something you like. So it's... Charles Sims or Gio Bernard? Charles Sims. Gio, I think. I think it would be Gio for me. Gio has a chance to at least run a couple in. Yeah, which that's a completely different story of I still believe in Jeremy Hill. I can't quit you. No, you can't.

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You just plain can't. All right. Mike wanted it. He wanted the chaos. Yeah. And the Brock Ness monster has signed. Ooh, I like that a lot. With Houston. I like that a lot. Brock Osweiler. I really hope that was off the top of your head. It was off the top of my head. I wasn't confident. All right. Formerly of the Broncos is now a Houston Texan and he got signed. He was paid over $10 billion to go.

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And sign with the Houston Texans. Here's the deal with Brock Osweiler. For those who are like, what? What did he do? Okay. Brock Osweiler has been sitting behind Peyton Manning for years. He finally gets a chance. And in my opinion, was not bad. I thought he looked good and adequate at the worst, at the least to me. You get, you're moving forward throughout the year. You feel like the coach, Coobes, has endorsed you. We're going to move forward with you.

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Then you get benched for Peyton Manning. How is that going to feel for that ego of an NFL quarterback? You move into the off season. They're not offering him anything. They're saying, we're going to wait on Peyton Manning and see what he has to do. We're going to wait. Then finally Manning retires and they go, oh, crap, we better throw Brock a contract. Offered him over $16 million. And so the Texans come in. They say, we love you, Brock. We love you. And we know what we're going to do? We're going to show you even a little bit more money.

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than the Broncos are doing. Why don't you come on down to Houston? Absolutely. That is the move that I would have made. I would have said, suck it, Coobes. You benched me. The old Bill O'Brien, who's a quarterback guru down there in Houston. I'm going to go play for him. I don't think Brock is that good, but I will say this. What an exciting young...

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