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Week 2 Studs & Duds + Big Ben & Brees Injury Fallout

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Emmanuel Sanders, the way he talks about Joe Flacco, the rapport that they have, you're starting to see it on the field, and Sanders was absolutely great. These targets should be assured. That was against the Bears. I mean, that was not like, that wasn't like, oh, he had a good game. It's just one of the most difficult, if not the most difficult defense to do this against, and he balled out 13 targets. He is locked and loaded, I think, is a top 15 wide receiver the rest of the way. Until...

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injuries happen to either him or Flacco. That's a high. I'll go top 20. Yeah. Well, like he's a must start. A couple tough matchups coming up has to go into Green Bay, then Jacksonville. Also, by the way, DeMarcus Robinson, he had his big day. If you're in a dynasty league, you should probably check your waiver wire. Julio Jones. Two more touchdowns for Julio. Chris Godwin, we knew about that big week. Goliday showed out. He did. He did.

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John Ross, four for one, twelve, and one on eight targets currently leads the NFL in receiving yards. I don't think you could have had a better start to the season possible for Mark Andrews. And then John Ross has this start to the season, Jason. We traded them one for one in like February. Yeah, it's so funny that I traded you Mark Andrews for John Ross in our dynasty league, regretted it most of the offseason.

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Mark Andrews looks like a beast, but John Ross looks like a beast, although context matters and fantasy. Yes, it does. You need to know how John Ross got a lot of these points. Mike, why don't you fill in the gap? So John Ross was about three for 49 or so with 50 seconds left in the football game. And their blowout loss. At this point was 41 to 10? I think so. If I recall correctly. And then.

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And then Dalton hit John Ross for one of those crossing rounds. And John Ross took us 60 yards to the house. And I get watered because of it. That is correct. You get watered because of the combination of that and the McCole Hardman Longbaum touchdown that would have beat that, but was called back on a hole. Yeah, feels great. Tyler Boy, 10 for 122 on 10 targets. These two guys until AJ Green comes back.

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I mean, Boyd, regardless. Boyd is safe. John Ross, the only kind of wrinkle in this breakout campaign is the return of, I would say it's two things. I would say it's the return of AJ Green and then hopefully the health of Joe Mix and improving after barely playing in this game. But so far, so good for John Ross. Are you kind of starting him until AJ's back on the field? Yeah. Yep. All right. And then in the absence of Jeffrey and.

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Deshawn Jackson, Nelson Aguilar, 8-4-107-1. Yeah, he's going to be the hot wide receiver pickup besides Robinson. Depending on the news for D. Jackson, Al-Shone. Sure, that's fair. Calvin Ridley, 8-105-1. He just looks great. You can start Julio and Ridley every week. Every single week. Yep. And then McCall Hardman, we mentioned it. Debo Samuel, 5-487 and 1. I think Debo is going to be one of the bigger waiver wire.

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options for people this week. They're involving him in the offense. Dante Pettis is uninvolved in this offense. The big question to me is, let's say you're looking at what Jimmy Groplo did. You're a fantasy owner. You're trying to, you know, we said last week right now it's like George Kittle and. You don't really know who else you can start. I will say this. Markey's Goodwin is the one assured of 100% of snaps on the outside of every game. He had three for 77 on a broken coverage, scored a touchdown.

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Debo or Marquis Goodwin is a waiver-wire pickup this one. I lean Debo. I would go Debo. You're talking about the difference of targets, right? Debo seven targets. Markees-Goodwin, three targets. Got all of them was efficient. It's fast. Can always break a big play. And last week, Markees-Govern had three targets as well. He only caught one of them for seven yards. So I'm going to go with the volume in that offense. Yeah, and this is an offense that's going to get pieces back. I mean, Trent Taylor's going to come back soon.

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And then Jalen Hurd eventually will be active. So it looks okay to pick one of these guys up. It might be more of a mirage, though, week to week. It could. On which guy to start. Because you couldn't have predicted it so far, which guy you would have wanted to throw out there. Let's go to the tight-in position. Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews. And oh, my goodness. People want it. Oh, yes. I can't stop it. Oh, my goodness. He's back. Will Disley 5 for 50.

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Two touchdowns, five targets. E-Haw, friends. Big Montana doing big work. My voice is made for this moment. Five for 50 and two. Will, how did that game feel? It felt so good to be out there. Just destroy me. Why are we assuming that he sounds like that? Because this is what my voice can do right now. How else does Big Montana sound, Mike? No, amazing game by Will Disney. And another amazing recovery. He had a very serious injury. Yes.

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and has recovered to be heavily involved. Two touchdowns. He's going to be a touchdown dependent tied in, I think, moving forward. Would you rather have Will Disler, Eric Ebron, moving forward? Ooh. That's a great question. I think I would rather have Will Disley. I think I would go Disley. That's crazy. But they're very similar tiered players for me. Vance McDonald, seven for 38, two touchdowns on seven targets. I guess this would be like.

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Maybe the last time you get a hit it. Who knows? We'll see if Mason leans on him. That's what I was going to bring up. The touchdowns were from Mason Rudolph. Mason seemed to be looking his way. I think he's a guy that is really interesting going forward. That's not to say he's got a higher ceiling without Big Ben, but I think that Vance is very interesting. I'd be looking to.

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Hold him to find him. Whatever you do, don't throw to Dante Moncrief. It is so important. It's so important as a person, just for your own psyche, not to throw the ball to him. I think that that transition has happened. No, it'll be James Washington moving forward. Not only that, but keep in mind, James Washington, I mean, James Washington is a Mason Rudolph favorite. They went to college together. If you look at the preseason from the,

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from these last two years. You're right. Mason Rudolph has dominated preseason, or excuse me, James Washington has dominated preseason like you've never seen before. Mike, you've talked about in years past, and you've been correct that when the backup quarterback comes in, oftentimes it's more of the backup wide receiver that he's practicing with day in, day out. I expect Mason, or James Washington to be decently relevant.

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All right, I think, Greg Olson, by the way, don't forget about that Thursday night game, six for 110. Waiver show tomorrow. We'll bring up some names. Greg Olson gets to play Arizona. That's not fair. I'll say this. I mean, Arizona's defense, they were in that game. Sure. 23 to 17 ball game. They were put in this position where I was so frustrated.

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Because they couldn't contain Lamar Jackson. Then I remembered it's Lamar Jackson. Like, they're not used to facing that, but they had a pretty darn good game considering what we had seen Miami do the week before. Sure. My point was. But Mark Andrews, give me a break. The tight end position. Hocles, well, sort of, who, like T.J. Hawkinson, week one, balled out against the Cardinals. Mark Andrews, bawled out against the Cardinals. It was super annoying to watch Mark Andrews be open for every first down all game long. So you're right.

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And so we'll see what happens next week with him. And time to move on. Stinkers of the week, presented by odor eaters. All right, these guys stunk it up. Yeah. Tilt check. Yeah, seriously. You know, it's easy week one to overreact. You get into week two. It seems like the same amount of overreaction is happening to some of these performances. Fantasy football is...

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Very subjective game. You don't have control over so many factors, whether it would be those illustrated by injury this week, with major players going down and impacting those performances, or just the ebbs and flows of the game, the way Sammy Watkins was a beast last week, a couple bombs don't go his way this week. Does that make Sammy Watkins a worst player? No. Not really. It's just the way that it goes. And if you, one of the things that we've put a lot of time and effort into,

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that's part of being a member of Join the Foot, but is also in the UEK, is the consistency charts. And Jason works to build these things out each and every year where you can glance at one screen and see each and every week's performances and whether they finish in the top five or the top 12 or outside of that range. You're not going to find very many players. You're talking a handful at each position that really provide consistency on a week-to-week basis. So you're playing probability in your starting sits.

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And you're going to have ebbs and flows, and you need to kind of relax and realize that guys are going to have, look at Christian McCaffrey. He's not any worse of a player this week than he was last week. But the best illustration of consistency is a 40-point week and a six-point week from Christian McCaffrey. As a famous book Brooks brought up once said, what is the, what's the phrase Brooks? Everybody poops. Everybody poops. Sometimes. What? Sometimes. A great novel. It's a great song.

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All right, quarterback poopers. These guys stunk it up. These are the stinkers of the week at the quarterback position. We already saw Cam Newton. But Deshaun Watson, 16 for 29, no passing touchdowns. Yeah. Kind of salvaged an absolute catastrophic week with a rushing touchdown, but had 159 passing yards. This Jacksonville. This is how good Pat Mahomes is. Because Jacksonville is a great defense. Like Jacksonville.

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shut him down. This was not just that, you know, Deshawn Watson isn't good or DeAndre Hopkins isn't good. This was a tough matchup. We didn't want to believe that Jacksonville was as good as they were because of what Pat Mahomes did to Jacksonville Week 1. I think Jacksonville is a dominant defense that will still get torched by Pat Mahomes. I think that they're a really, really good defense.

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but they have the ability to avalanche on themselves. Sure. I think that's what we saw last year, like statistically at the end of the year, they were a good defense last year. But then they had these like handful of games where the wheels fell off. They're yelling at each other. Players getting thrown out. Yeah. And so I think, you know, this was a good game for them and they almost won it on the back of that defense. So Deshaun Watson is still running for his life. Laramie Tunzel has an ankle problem. He says he's fine, but he has been not.

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Good enough. But we're not scared. Like, no, not for watching. Cam, I'm, you got to move on right now until he proves it. Deshaun Watson, he's like a go trade for him off of this performance. Derek Carr did not show out. 23 for 38, 18, 1 had two ugly picks. And what's wild. Sometimes they can be so ugly, they should count as two interceptions. What's wild is the Raiders were winning this game 10 to 0.

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And then in position to put even more points on the board. Like Carr was playing well to start the game. And then everything just turned into a black hole and imploded on itself. Yeah. I guess they have the black hole there. They do have it. 28 points in the second quarter put them into a position that Derek Carr is entirely uncomfortable, which is he can't come back. He just can't do it. He cannot throw the ball down field. This was a game where, you know.

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I think that's the problem. That's the thing that's going to get John Gruden pulling his hair out is it's underneath to Renfro, underneath to Tyrell, underneath to Waller a lot. And he needs to feed him a bit more. What do you think of what happened with Josh Jacobs where he was seeding a bunch of snaps to Jalen Richard? So it was like you didn't get the full workhorse role that we thought we had from Josh Jacobs after week one.

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I think it just has to do with the game script and putting Richard out there on third down pass protection situations. I'm saying does that concern you about Josh Jacobs moving forward, knowing that this is what's going to happen. If the Raiders go down, then Jacobs will be coming off the field more and more. Yeah, he had 12 carries in this game, still had 99 yards rushing. Yeah, that big, like 51-yard or looked great on that road. Yeah, I don't think it changes anything in a very pragmatic, tangible way. There's nothing I'm going to do different. I'm not going to sit him.

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because game script is going to hurt the Raiders from time to time. They have Minnesota, Indianapolis next, both games on the road. They're not facing Mahomes again this week. So I don't think that they played that bad as a team. I think they just got boat racing the second quarter and couldn't overcome it. Even when it was 28 to 10, they were down on the goal line. He threw that ugly pick. It would have been a second touchdown for Tyrell Williams in this game, who seems very stable as the one in that offense. Sure. Let's talk about my favorite stinker.

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Oh, gosh. Who's your favorite stinker? My favorite stinker at quarterback was able to come up with a solid 120 passing yards. Mitchell Trubisky. You're talking about the game winning drive? Talking about you stink. Yes. Because he did leave them on a game winning drive. He did throw one pass that was caught. That constitutes a game winning. This was a hard game to watch on both sides of the football. There's a reason he had to have a game winning pass. So let's weigh in because we want to.

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