Sleepers + Undrafted Gems, MEGALABOWL! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/20

come through the wire this morning. Yeah, it's a developing story, so pay attention. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usAA.com slash insurance. Sleepers. All right, we're moving on to the sleepers episode and all of our consensus picks for this category are in the UDK at ultimate draft kit.com. We define sleepers as players who are drafted later that you might not know about that are primed to emerge. And the truth is, is that you don't generally have a sleeper, especially in today, like this era of fantasy football, that doesn't have reasons why they are being under drafted in our minds, right? Like there are always a lack of excitement. It could be an injury. It could be a team change. If there's unanimous opinion about a player, they're not a sleeper, right? They're not sitting at the back of the draft.

So I'll go first today just because it kind of piggybacks with our news, which this player was in here before we got word that Curtis Samuel was banged up. And that is rookie wide receiver Keon Coleman of the Buffalo Bills. I saw somebody comments. on X, tagging us saying, you know, you talk about Brian Thomas and you talk about Ladd McConkey, and you talk about all of these other rookies, and you don't mention Keon Coleman very often. I talk about good players. So there you go. There you go. Keon Coleman has tremendous opportunity. The vacated targets in Buffalo, outrageous. They, you know, just digs in Davis vacated 241 targets.

This was a player. I just want to stress, like the bills have been a competitive, well-run organization for a number of years. This was their pick at the wide receiver position. They had the chance to draft Ladd McConkey or Jalen Polk or Adnan Mitchell or Jermaine Burton, other guys that went behind Keon Coleman in the draft. They knew they were missing their alpha in Stefan Diggs. They knew they were missing their deep threat in Gabe Davis. They made the choice. And so. Give that whatever weight you want. That was their decision. He was highly drafted. You have Curtis Samuel banged up. You have options that are very unproven. And, you know, Mack Hollins. This is a guy that makes a splash play here, there, and ends up with 200 to 300 yards. That's like kind of what he does, right? Sometimes we're shoes on sometimes without. Curtis Samuel. Never eating soup, though. Samuel is and has been defined by the head coach, a player that they use in a bunch of different kind of.

ways. He's not a traditional outside route running on every play. You know, they're going to use them in the screen game and the underneath game and the handoff game. And those are things that are going to happen with Curtis Samuel, Dalton Kincaid, we know what he's got. The team went out and said, Keon Coleman's our guy. So from a sleeper perspective, rookie with opportunity with a top five quarterback in the NFL. To me, he's locked in based on the preseason in the X role. He's had 100% route participation with the starters. And now you've got another injury. So to me, you know, for some reason, like Keon Coleman feels bland because what he does and brings to the table as a wide receiver, it's not like Brian Thomas. There's like the explosive plays and the big over the top like highlight reel plays, right? And Keon Coleman just kind of is well-rounded. Like his best profile to me,

of what he looks like on the field and what he's capable of doing is Alan Robinson at his peak. He's an Alan Robinson type of player. And so to me, the opportunity is there. I do think it'll take him a little bit more time to settle in. Okay. But from a sleeper perspective, that's okay. I like taking shots. Brian Thomas, Keon Coleman, you know, Ladd-McConkey, finding value late in the draft that have opportunities like this. Coleman's sitting out there. And look, Coleman could have two touchdowns in week one. He's a big-bodied wide receiver. He's a competitive catch-wide receiver. Then they obviously, they went to him a little bit in the preseason, I showing him on one side and saying, go beat the guy, a la Alan Robinson. And so I just think he's being undervalued. I liked this film tremendously. He didn't test well in the 40. He was great in the, what's the drill? The gauntlet. Great in the gauntlet. Made an impression on Buffalo. They went out and got him over those other guys. I don't mind it. If people like Mike around, you constantly say the guy sucks, that's why he's where he's being drafted.

I do not mind the draft price at all. Keon Coleman is, like, he is to me a rookie that had he been, if he was being drafted up in like that Malik neighbor's range, because it's one of the things that could have happened, you know, people overreact to the landing destination. Then it would have been like absolutely not. There's no way I'm ever drafting Keon Coleman. He is directly next to Brian Thomas. Yeah, he's going wide receiver 43. He's two rounds later. then Xavier worthy, and he is about five or six picks later than McConkey. The difference to me of Keon Coleman versus Brian Thomas is, like, if things work for Brian Thomas, I think he can replace that Calvin Ridley role for the Jaguars, where it's a heavy target volume. My concern with Keon Coleman is when I was watching him as a prospect, if you just watch Keon Coleman highlights from college,

He is an absolute dominator, but his production didn't match with the highlights to me. And so it was the fear of, well, if he's just Gabe Davis on this team, maybe he's a better Gabe Davis. But it's just, so that's about, it's about upside between the two of them. But going in the 40s of the wide receiver core as a rookie, this is a player who should be. on your target list. I agree. He's a great player to take a shot on. I mean, all the things that historically line up well are there for him. And, you know, you've got to take shots at the end of your draft for explosive upside. Yeah, I mean, I know a lot of us like Jermaine Burton, right? But there are some, like massive, like, even if you like the talent more, there are so many roadblocks in the way from Burton's impact. Burton has no.

possible shot of being the number one target on his team. Yeah. That's actually an outcome that could happen for Keon Coleman, even if it's unlikely. You could see the path for it. I always wondered, too, what, like, kind of impact Josh Allen's preferences might have made in taking that pick. I mean, this is a guy who's had Gabe Davis and Stefan Diggs for years. Like, I'd be shocked if this team didn't say, hey, do you have a player that you like and that you've seen in college? So speculation there, but just, you know. opportunity to be a number one target. I'll jump in here. Mine is more of a cryogenic type of a sleeper. Like we are, we're deep freeze. Oh, okay. We would have to thaw out, but it's a, it's a name that people need to pay attention to. Oh, I don't like this. What? I don't like your name. I just saw it. He doesn't like it because of the implications. Also, I don't know what that accent or what that was. I just, yeah, I mean, okay, go on. It's Jalen Wright.

rookie running back for the Miami Dolphins. Is this a last name thing? Maybe. Oh, man, maybe. It's a good name. Now that you pointed out. Yeah. Now that's right in front of me, maybe that's what happened. He is a bigger running back, but he is an absolute speed freak. Like this dude is really fast. We've been talking about how fast the players on the Miami Dolphins are. And Jalen Wright is one of those guys. Already seen him come through with some explosive playmaking. He's looked good in the preview. 10 carries for 55 yards and a tutty. He ran a 435. Thank you. He ran a 438. And then you had Mike McDaniel talking about, McDaniel, coach of the Dolphins, Jason. Thank you. Yeah, you might be thinking Ronald McDonald. Yeah, not a franchisee. Head coach of the Miami Dolphins. He was asked about.

Who are the starters? And he said, who says we have to stop at two running backs? Maybe we can just have four. And talking about how much confidence he has in Jalen Wright. Look, it is for sure. It is A-chan. At least, look, I say for sure, that's how I'm projecting it. A-chan and Rahim Moster are in front of Jalen Wright. But why you need to know this name is maybe you're in a deeper league and you need to find really high upside players that you got a draft. You're in a 14-teamor. and you need someone who's on the bench. Jalen Wright has multiple paths because of A. Chan and Mostert. Mostert is for a running back. I like to make fun of Adam Thielen. Mostert should be getting the oldest man voice because he's a running back and he's old. A. Chan is smaller and we've only seen him for one season and we've seen him get hurt multiple times. Reim Moster has been on the injured list or injury report 14 times in his career.

and Devon A. Chan was three stints last year? Yeah. Preseason, midseason later? Multiple games missed. The point being, if one of those guys were to unfortunately miss time, Jalen Wright would be the hottest pickup of the week, like a huge fab dump for Jalen Wright, depending on the amount of time that those guys are going to miss. It's investing in the Miami backfield. It's investing in a player who I think. he's a rookie, so it's going to take time for him to learn. But if it's down to 8chan and Jalen Wright, dude, Jailen Wright's going to get so much work and he's explosive and can hit those home runs for you. So it's a name that you need to be aware of. Maybe you're not drafting him in 12 teams. Maybe your bench is big, so you are. Yeah, it's such a good name. I mean, it really is. I don't like.

bringing up Jailen Wright because I hope that Devon A. Chan has an awesome season. Yeah, you know what it means for him to be relevant. Yeah, right. Jalen Wright is good this year. That means Devon A. Chan probably got injured or was in too big of a committee or yada yada. But the pathways for Jalen Wright, we just talked about how historically there are always multiple rookie running backs who end up in that RB1 territory. This year going into the season, you don't know who it is. It's going to be one of these guys that is. the benefactor of an injury in front of them. And so Jalen Wright has two different guys who have very clear paths towards being off the field. Why, and if one went down? That's what I mean. If just one went down. Yeah, you have a fork in the road. It's not just reliant on one player, the superstar going down. And our note here on Rahim Moster is the injury history. It's a CVS receipt. Oh.

Which we all know what that means. Yeah, it's not a small amount of paper. No. That's a tree. Many trees. That's a tree. All right. I've got another running back for my sleeper pick. This one? No, no. I'm in. I'm in. Look, I had, this is full disclosure. I had gone in and I put this guy in with real tiny font into my sleeper. And I was like, No, I can't do it. I'm a coward. And then I didn't know that. No, you didn't. And then I came and put this guy in as my sleeper because I ain't no coward. I'm talking about JK one leg, J.K. Dobbins running back for the Los Angeles Chargers or as they really should be known, the Baltimore Ravens West. Because G. Roe and Harbaugh are rebuilding that type of a franchise that brought over Gus Edwards and J.K. Dobbins.

Gus Edwards has had a lot of discussion over this offseason. The touchdown opportunities. He was a double-digit touchdown guy last year. He was so good. Yeah. And this is a team that wants to run the ball. I didn't even know the whole thing you brought up in the news section about in the preseason how well this offensive line is working. They're just going to be able to run. They're going to be able to run. And this is a. a one-two punch that has been a one-two punch before. For years, together, J.K. Dobbins and Gus Edwards. And it was always that way. It was J.K. Dobbins and Gus Edwards. It was not Gus Edwards and J.K. Dobbins was the second round pick. He was the guy who came in in his rookie season was a running back two for fantasy and looked great at the end of the year. And it was like, okay, we're all in. And then he's been injured since then. Now he feels like older than Rahim Mostert.

He's coming off of an Achilles injury that, you know, usually for running backs, that just means you wash your hands of them and you just say, I'm fine being wrong. Yeah, this is, sleepers are cracking the door open for the possibility that they, these, these guys burst through it, right? Like, there's a chance. Yeah. However improbable. that you have great value in these names. He got injured in week one last year. So he's had a long time. You know, if you have to get injured last year, you hope it's early in the season. Week one is the longest time you can have for recovery to this point. People are saying he's looking healthy. He looks healthy. I watched a mic deputy. How many legs does it appear that he has? One and a half.

I think he's got one and a half legs, which we've, okay, 1.5 legs. We have seen him be fine with one strong leg. He talked about that a couple years ago. Well, in, no, no, no. Yes, no, he was. He really was. I know, but it did come to bear. Well, right. I'm not saying that he's going to be healthy and not get re-injured and all of that, but all of that's baked in already. He's in the 12th round. This is not an expensive pay. I cannot. When you talk about JK two legs or one leg, sorry. I cannot not think about the classic M. Night Shyamalan Lady in the Water. Yeah, the war. The strong arm. The guy that had one giant arm and one tiny arm. Yeah. I think the science. Shout to the four people that saw that movie with me. Because that's what it looked like in. That's what it looked like in camp, dude. In 2022, when he plays four games, he gets hurt and he misses six weeks. He comes back and he's.

Like it's the Adrian Peterson Hitch run, but it is so exaggerated. He's dragging one of his legs. Half of them is so fast and the other one was dragging. It was it was unbelievable. One of his legs doesn't want to play in the NFL. The rest of him does and they're at war. Yeah. So in Greg Roman's offense in Baltimore, just as a reminder, Dobbins averaged 5.9 yards per carry. And that includes. the season when he was recovering from the ACL, and we coined him JK1 leg. The positive game scripts should be there for the Chargers. They have the second easiest strength of schedule, according to Warren Sharp. They've made massive offensive line improvements, and we talk a lot about you want a guy, you can cut after week one if he's not, I mean, you're going to know week one. Is he the first man up in this office? Is he playing ahead of Gus Edwards between the 20s? I know when they get to the goal line.

They're going to give it to Gus Edwards. But if J.K. Dobbins is healthy and looks good, he's going to be the starting running back for what will be a good offense that will score a lot of points. That will never abandon the run. That wants to run the ball. And you get him for free late in drafts. And I know he feels old. But he is not. Who's older? Him or Remandre Stevenson. That's a joke. Remandre. That's a joke. Who's older? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's true. I got a better one for you. Who's older him or Jalen Warren? Jalen Warren is a year younger than Ramandre Stevenson. Are we sure that the one leg isn't older at least? Well, one of those legs is 42 years old. He is. He is 25 years old. That's fine. If he's healthy, which he says he is, he looks out there. Well, he said that last year. We're leaving that alone. I'm just saying that in the 12th round, he might be one of the steals of the draft.

The Ramadre one is insane. Yeah. Remodre looks like a player in Dynasty. You'd be like, that's a nice pickup. Yeah. That's a player I'm going to have for a while. So, yeah, it's an interesting name. Let's take a break and jump into some mailbag. Now, an ordinary podcast would move on at this point from the sleeper section. I've hit the drop. We're moving into the mailbag. But we're not an ordinary podcast. And sometimes when you are scrolling the show doc and you notice that Jason has a bonus sleeper pick, And me and Mike didn't throw any in there. But Jason's bonus sleeper pick is from the very same team in which his sleeper pick came from. I'll tell you what, you can throw to me right now. Off the top of my head, I can give you a bazillion better sleepers than this guy. So Jason, I'm reading in here. This does not, I don't know if this is a typo. It does say Quentin Johnston. It does say Quentin Johnston.

Remember me talking about how. Don't do this to yourself. Remember me talking about how. What a huge decision. You want to be able to drop a guy in week one. I mean, Quentin Johnson, we don't know for sure where he is on the pecking order. He might not be a starter. However, he was a first round rookie last year who's coming into year two and could still be the number one wider shoot for this team. Yep. So I'm just saying that's the type of pick that are you drafting Keonan Coleman or Quentin Johnston. Oh, Keon Coleman. I mean, Quinn Johnson is basically an undrafted gym. He's, I haven't seen him drafted in any of the leagues I'm in, you know, that aren't super deep like best ball leagues. And so, yeah, I mean, he's either a starter. He's going behind Ladd and Palmer. Oh, I would take Ladd ahead. I would take all those guys. Here's the ADP though, Jay, Dante and Wicks, Quentin Johnston, Darnell Moody, Adam Thielen. Oh, really? All those guys? Yeah.

Get out of here. Wow. Huge. Huge is the worst of those, but he still profiles as someone that could do something. He's something. All right. We're moving on. Mailbag. Anytime Quentin Johnston is mentioned on this podcast, Papa Josh just lights up because he, you know. I think, I think he's so excited. I traded that guy. Yeah, he's out. Oh, you got rid of him. Yeah, I got rid of him. So we don't have to hype him up for a while. Wasn't he part of the big dynasty acquisition you made when you sold for the future? For a little while. And then you moved him out. What'd you move him for? I don't remember something way better. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Actually a second and a third and Terry McLaurin. Terry McLaurin. Oh, okay. You guys co-manage this team, don't you over there? Yeah, we do. That's a pretty good trade. If you've traded Quentin Johnston and Dynasty, you won the trade. Oh, man. Oh, man. Why did I ask? Yeah, the compensation doesn't matter.

Oh, all right. Let's jump in. Will in North Carolina. By the way, if you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click that submit a question button. You can also dial our voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. Leave us a voicemail question. Will and North Carolina says, would you rather have in a 16-team PPR league? Okay. So this is a thinned out league. A.J. Brown and James Cook. So that combination. Okay. Or. Jonathan Taylor and Marvin Harrison Jr. This is an easy A.J. Brown and James Cook for me. Really? Yeah, I'm very, very, very bullish and confident on both of those players. I do lean that direction. I think the consensus opinion would be you're getting much more of a guarantee with Taylor than Cook. And then you can debate the Brown Harrison situation. But I agree. I'm on that side. That's where I go to.

Andrew in Wisconsin says, hello ballers, long time listener. My question is, is Devon A. Chan worth a first round pick in a dynasty format? Nope. I'm the my guy and I love them. But I mean, if I'm drafting a running back in the first round of a dynasty startup, which I don't almost ever do, that running back is going to be named Bijon or Brise. Otherwise, I'm getting a wide receiver. I just, you know, if you're newer to Dynasty or you haven't played in it long enough, that running back turnover is just insane. And some of these young studly wide receivers, they're going to play twice as long. So I'm usually going into my fourth round, my fifth round before I often grab a running back in startup drafts just because I'm...

I'm building a foundation for the future, and then I'll collect the old men at the end of the draft to help me this year, like the Rahim Mosterts that no one wants on a dynasty league. So that's just the way that I personally play. If I'm in the back of the first and I'm really, really want a running back, it'd be you're looking at Gibbs. Because I would take Gibbs over H&N. Who, little update, is expected to practice next week. All right, let's go. Which is delightful. All right, let's go here, Larson in Alaska. What's up, ballers? What's up? I hear you guys talk about the, quote, zero RB strategy on the podcast. What exactly does that mean to you guys and what running backs are you targeting for that type of strategy? Thanks, guys. And also hashtag team big shimmy for life. So, yeah, absolutely. Zero running back. It was a strategy that started to gain momentum, I don't know, about eight.

Eight years ago, maybe even 10, but Sean Siegel, shout out to him. Just incredible fantasy football mind. He's the one who got that idea out there. And the whole, the concept of zero running back is running backs are more likely to get hurt, so they're fragile for spending high draft capital. Meanwhile, wide receivers are more likely to not get hurt, more likely to hit. And if you can load up on those types of players and also including... elite tight ends, which there's more options now for elite tight end, but back, you know, back then it was one or maybe two guys. And if you can secure them, you're trying to get as many top 24 wide receivers as you possibly can. So that's the whole idea of it. And then that running backs you draft later, because the players in front of them are going to get hurt, they gain value.

over the course of a football season as opposed to lose value. And there's tons and tons of options this year. It doesn't mean you draft, it doesn't mean you draft zero running backs. It means you're starting your draft with zero. Gus busts, Jerome Ford, some of these later round opportunities. The Cowboys. Yeah, the Cowboys backfield. Yeah, you'll, you'll start so heavy elsewhere. You know, you're not going to get your first running back until at least the sixth round, usually seventh or later. And then the end of your draft are just going to load up on a ton of those guys. So you can get a couple of the, either the old guys, you know, if you're in the eighth round of Mosterts there, what a great starter. Or Jerome Ford is great because he's going to start the season well. And then you want to have a couple of those insurance backs as well. Grab those rookies. Grab those, the Blake Corums and the, the Trey Benson's and the guys that, you know, an injury in front of them will make a mad dash for the waiver wire. Yeah, but you already have them. And you already have them. And now your team gets stronger.

while you've got loaded up studs. And one big hit on any of those changes the dynamics of your team for the whole season. Yes. Yes. Another team gets like they lose, right? They're like they're out of the running out and you are even an even stronger contender. And also we're throwing it like this is it's more focused on if you're in a PPR and you're playing, you're starting like three wide receivers and a flex because you're just you're loading up on guys who are going to get cheap points. All right, I do want to circle back before we close the show down to the announcement we made at the very tippy top. Megalable. Very frightened, always. The Megalable, you can join it right now. It's a free entry for every Foot Clan supporter, and you can go to megalable.com for that information. And if you would like all of the details on our new ultimate tier of the Foot Clan membership, you can go to join the foot.com.

So very excited about both of those things. We've got busts and values on tomorrow's episode. We're debuting the take swap on Thursday and a mock draft on Friday. Jason. Yes. Have you reconsidered your bust pick? Oh, I, I. Please. No, I'm no, I'm going to stick to it. Well, but I have reconsidered my Quentin Johnson sleeper. Oh, okay. All right. All right. He's off the board. There's just too many other guys. All right, that is going to do it. Thank you for joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. See you later. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.