Take Checks + Hungry for More, TNF Breakdown - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/11

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Wednesday episode of the show. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Good morning. Good afternoon. Just covering our basis. Goodbye, Rahimosa. Yeah. He burned too bright last year. Maybe.

Maybe. I mean, look, Rahim Moster is not somebody unfamiliar with, uh, practice, missing practice and being banged up and we'll see, we'll see what happens. We got news to talk about. I have news at the top to talk about because out of over 20,000 people. Oh my gosh, this is insane. I mean, 20,000 people are in the Mega Bowl right now. And if you don't know what that is, that is the, uh, largest fantasy football league in the world. It is comprised of Foot Clan supporters. And week one is in the books. And if you go to megalobole.com, you can see the standings. We update them every week. The winner gets a spot in our listener league. And also really the pride of beating over 20,000 people at something. And currently, after one week, uncomprehensible, the Falcon is number one. The Falcon dump.

is number one right now. Which is his team name. The Falcon dump. He ends up with 198 points in week one. Number one in the league. Do you have any comments for the Foot Clan, Falcon? Get bodied, foot clan. Yeah. Oh, man. Get bodied. And that is, I approve that message. Yeah. I mean, you must sit in and listen to every one of these shows or something. Not everyone. That's true. Impressive. Impressive. So the Megalibolable standings, we often shout out who's in the lead. And unfortunately, we have to shout out the Falcon himself. What a world. Congratulations. That's pretty impressive. We've got hungry for more on the show today. A pretty fun, quick question that Mike came up with for us. And yeah, I think that's, I think that's it. The Foot Clan, you can become a member. Jointhefoot.com. The response yesterday to the ultimate dashboard and the fact that you get custom waivers.

overwhelming. And so we are, we're doing some work today to patch up a few bugs that you guys have pointed out with, I think specifically Yahoo! Sinking with Yahoo! It works most of the time. If you have an issue with that, just delete your team at it again. It should work. But we're working on the ultimate dashboard. It gives you the ability to see an optimized lineup based on our projections. It gives you spot starts based on your actual waiver wire. It gives you waiver wire rankings based on your actual league. And it gives you a custom news feed for your team. And we're adding more stuff in the future. You can check all that out at join the foot.com. Mike, why don't you, why don't you read the quick question? Bro, I am so locked. I didn't hear a single word that you just said. We weren't listening to anything you said. Wait, what happened? Waivers are running. In the league we're playing with Rich Eisen. Andy's over here dropping.

Massive amounts of money. Did I get Isaiah likely? You got him. I raised my bid over there like three times. Was that a mistake? Let's see. The second highest bid was 15. And yours was 81. So. Yeah. It was a mistake. The Falcon is dying over there. You raised it three times. That's a dump. Oh, man. Now, not later. I don't have a tight end in that league. I feel like my team is stacked in that league. Oh, man. It was a situation where, again, you know, these are contextual. Isaiah likely went for 35. What league is that, Kyle? That's our main league of record. Okay. Interesting. Why? Why did I not? What did you know? DeMarcus Robinson. I don't understand why I didn't get him in that league. You were probably out of Fab. Okay. Okay.

Yeah, I made the shot. I love my team in our rich Eisen League, and I needed a tight end, and I guess I got him. All right. We have a quick question, Mike. You were going to read it before you distract this with Waiver. Okay, hold on. I got to lock back into the show here, boys, because. Waiver morning is a thing, and then week one, waiver morning, even more of a thing. Waiver morning when your most important league, your roster from top to bottom is. in shambles. I had to know what happened. But anyways, back to the show, back to all y'all. Back to the millions of you. So we just, it's week one, or we're heading to week two. We've rounded up week one. And victory laps. Oh, no. What do you remember? Not that I'm overspending everywhere. Go on. Go on. Victory laps. It's a part of fantasy football. And it's always, you know, take it easy on your victory laps.

But I wanted to, you know, bring forth a take from the off season where after week one you think this is going pretty good. I like the direction this is on or a take that you had in the off season. There you go, oh, oh, man, week one made that take look really, really bad. And it's made it feel so bad that you're like, I think I have to immediately change my opinion on that, which we. We try to tell people, we're working as hard as possible to get a majority of things right. But weird things happen in football all the time. There's always going to be right and wrong every year. So stay water. Yeah, stay water. And with new information, be willing to change your opinion. Sometimes week one information comes in and it doesn't drastically change what you thought about in the office. You say, no, I'm still going to hold on to that opinion. And I'm going to get more information. But a couple of things happened in week one where you go.

Yeah, that was wrong, which we'll start there. We'll start with things that we're feeling shaky. Yeah, my week one, my preseason take where I'm already just like, okay, we'll burn that thing to the ground. Joe Mixen looked unbelievably good. My argument against Joe Mixon has always been his inefficiency, which I've watched Joe Mixing for years, be that guy. I mean, it hasn't mattered for fantasy football because he's gotten the ball. so, so much for the Cincinnati Bengals who are frequently a high-powered offense. Joe Mixon is getting checkdowns all the time. I was concerned will those come through? I mean, he had three targets, so that part is TBD, but he got 30 carries, 30 carries tying a career high, and he looked awesome. So that's where I'm taking the L is I don't remember ever watching Joe Mixon in his career. I mean, he's old.

He's been in the league forever. That was I think that that was the best I can remember Joe Mixon looking in a very, very long time. When you look that good and you have that kind of utilization where he was that involved for a good offense, you know fantasy is going to work. I mean, that's already, you know, you take an L or you take a W depending on what you thought of mixing because it's a win this year. Joe Mixing, can he finish RB1? I don't. think he can finish RB1. He had three targets. Yeah, we still would need that to go up. But like top 10 with this utilization on this offense, that's easy. Yeah, that seems a lock. Top five, quite possible. Obviously, I'm, if it keeps up. I'm feeling shaky about Kyron's workload situation and whether he gets, if he is a part of a committee or not, week one, 21 opportunities, 90% of the carries, 100% of the targets.

ran the most routes among all running backs. That's huge. Caught the punts. Caught the punts. Kyron in week one, you know, I'm holding judgment a little bit because Sean McVeigh came out after the game and said that's not what we wanted to do. I also thought, you know, during the game that if you're down on the road in week one in a playoff atmosphere, you're not putting in a rookie and Blake quorum and you're probably not taking Kyron off the field. So we'll have to see. I mean, is this team going to have a good enough defense where they're not in this position more often than not where they can't afford? Like it's about whether you can afford to rotate Kyron, not whether you want to. And so far through week one, you know, the idea of him not being a workhorse was disproven. Yeah, I definitely, as the one that has been a staunch believer that he will retain his workhorse status, this will be the highest utilization of the season. Like this was outrageous. That's not, you know, that.

He's going to be pulled back a little bit, but he will still be a workhorse. For me, my loss, and I'm willing to do it right off the bat, like rip the bandit off, and I am a convert immediately from what I saw. Wow. Okay. I am and have always been an anti-ro rookie tight-end player. And it has... That's what your tattoos say. That has worked for me. in literally every situation in the history of my fantasy football except for once, and it was last year's Sam Laporta. Well, it's about to be twice because Brock Bowers, one, he's awesome. There's all my anti, all my anti, you know, rookie tight end for fantasy things. That has nothing to do with the talent of the player. That has to do with the situation, what rookie tight ends come into. Also, he was coming into a place where they had a second round tied in from.

last year and they've got Devante Adams and a bad offense and I don't know if I could trust this offensive scheme. And then what happened? He had eight targets, was used in the juicy parts of the field, a 25% target share. I mean, he was who we're all hoping he develops into, but he was that way in week one. So I'm in. If like I mentioned this on the waiver show yesterday, if Brock Bowers was on the waivers. That's a guy I would have dropped the 85th for because I think he's got, you know, game-breaking ability. I just did not think he would have the utilization. And if he has it in week one, he should have it this season. He was, he was my guy finalist, if you remember for this show. So nice week one. How about, you know, maybe it's not a full victory lap, but what do you feel like you've gotten right so far?

after one week. I'll hop in because it's, Kyron is kind of a part of this. On the bust episode, I talked about Marvin Harrison, but in truth, I don't even know who that guy is. It was. Neither does Tyler. Yeah. On that, that argument actually developed a little bit more from Marv. I felt like the wide receivers at the beginning of the second round were bad picks. They were, but compared to the running backs that the, the, the Marvin Harrison, the Drake London. The Devante Adams, the guys, the Chris Olaves, the guys that were there versus the Gibbs, the Kyron, the Sequin, the running backs that were there. It just felt like you had giant question marks or you had really good opportunities. I mean, you can even throw Garrett Wilson into that mix after week one. Yeah, so I feel good that we, you know, talked about that strategy. And I think a lot of the Foot Clan ended up with Sequin and Kyron and Gibbs and those guys. All right. Mike.

How are you feeling? So over the offseason, I was talking about this deeper dive that I had done on running backs who were not drafted in the top 24 and trying to find the edge of which teams, because there's over eight teams on average, there's not a top 24 running back draft from that team. Yet we get a handful of guys from those teams to finish. What is the edge that we can identify to try to get those guys? And it was. The Bengals, the Chargers, and the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys one is still TBD. Zeke is currently the leader. I can't argue with that, but it was a pretty close timeshare. The other ones, the Chargers one was a time share, absolutely. But Dobbins looked like the guy. He had three targets, and I know I just said that's not enough for mixing, but this is a different caliber of a player, and he was the one who actually had juice. He got stopped at the line a lot.

But then he had the two humongous runs where Gus Edwards did really nothing with his utilization. And I mean, yes, Gus is lining up against really heavy boxes, but they couldn't get anything done with Gus Edwards. And J.K. Dobbins was the one who got it done. And then Zach Moss of the Bengals. It was, is it Zach Moss? Is it Chase Brown? It is, at least after week one, it is Zach Moss. This wasn't. the utilization you hoped for. It was only 13 opportunities, but two carries inside the 10. He had 65% of the snaps. He saw almost 30% of the entire workload for the Bengals. I mean, that's, you know, team carries plus targets, 29%. Like, those are outrageously good numbers. The team did not run a lot. They fully abandoned the run. And I think that they will.

balance that out a little bit more. And right now it looks like Zach Moss is the big winner over Chase Brown. Yeah, when you identified those three teams as the running back timeshares to target late, you didn't even say, you know, it is Zach Moss or it is just take a shot on one of those guys. And all three of those teams had the rushing touchdown this week. And when you, when you, you know, get back at the end of the year and you go, oh, this guy snuck into the top 24, it's because they had enough touchdowns. I had a couple of quick bullet point.

things from week one. Obviously Cooper Cup was fantasy MVP. He looked great. Before Puka left, he looked better after and he's going to be a top tier guy. Tony Pollard winning the kind of week one timeshare situation. I felt like that was the Swift Gainwell was kind of the offseason comparison I used. And whether that holds up or not, the team did come out and say they were kind of hot handing it. But Pollard looked a lot better. And then Cincinnati being bad. They were dead last in my prediction for the division, which did not go over well with Cincinnati fans. But in week one, they looked pretty bad. That was, I mean, that was the worst loss of the week, right? Like the Bengals losing. That was a survivor pool destroyer. The Bengals losing to the team that had by far the highest odds to be the worst team in the NFL. And you're a team that. In Cincinnati. Yeah, at home. And you're a team that has Super Bowl aspirations. That's a devastating loss.

They can bounce back. But Joe Burrow in these weak ones is just, he's just killing us. Absolutely killing us. Yeah, yeah. He's a slow starter, it seems. All right, let's jump in. Welcome to Hungry for More, presented by Uber Eads. I know it's a cliche, but the any given Sunday thing is just always so true in the NFL. And I do chuckle at the idea that I think the number is 45% of people tried to just get their survivor pools. Off the ground with an easy, obvious win and goodbye. All right, hungry for more. If you're not familiar with this segment, it is a rising stars type of segment. We're looking at players that we've seen some flashes of in week one, had some nibbles. Now we want a little bit more. For me, Jameson Williams, wide receiver of the Detroit Lions. It has been a fun discussion on the show. I would love to.

Rob Kyle's nose in Jameson Williams production all year long. Oh, so you kind of did on one week, yeah, one way, but I am. He's hungry for more, Mike. Make no mistake, I have sent some trade offers out with Jameson Williams leaving my roster, knowing that taking advantage of anybody that wants to believe that you've got a tier one type of guy, you know, I'm not talking about giving him away. I was going hard in the pain after big guys, but. I want to see more of what the utilization was for Jameson Williams, in particular, went back through, watched all the targets again this morning, was 5 for 121 and 1. If they use him, if Ben Johnson uses him the way they used him in week one, Jameson's a thing this year. Done, over. For sure. You can't, to me, this was, remember how we looked at Thursday night football and we're like, Rashi Rice, they just run the same play and it's unstoppable?

They can do that with Jamo. If they run them on crossers, if they run them on the, you know, get him into space and let him run. I mean, the plays were, he's too fast. He's too fast. He is lightning. And if you really think back about the career, the problem has been that he's been on the field and hasn't shown it. But really, his rookie season, he was coming off to ACL, you know, so he missed the majority of it. Then he was suspended going into last year, and this was an offense that was so darn good. They did not need him. They did not need to stop midseason when they get him back and go, okay, how are we going to get him involved? Then they let wide receivers go in the off season, and they certainly seem like they designed plays for Jamos. So, man, I'm, I think it's going to happen. I think I'm pretty excited about it. I think he's going to be good. I tend to agree. I'm more on the side of excitement. Something that we haven't talked about, though. I think we're in the hungry for more. Sorry, I'm sidetracking. What's the fallout for the lions?

Like if he's this utilized? This is a high tea team that had that last year, it was very focused. It was almond raw. It was Sam Laporta and it was Jemir Gibbs. What now happens to this, to these fantasy players if Jameson Williams is all of a sudden an eight target guy? I wanted to take a quick look here. Josh Reynolds last season, just 40 for 608. So that is not a bar that. is very high in terms of... Yeah, Jameson's on his way to that. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, he should surpass that if he's utilized like this, which will have an impact on Laporta and Amman Ra. Yeah, I mean, you saw it in week one, right? You can't throw to two players at once, and Amman Ra had his first down game in forever, and LaPorta wasn't anything great either. So I think if James has a true breakout, it will siphon a few targets away. But it could be good for the run game to open, you know, when you're opening up the passing,

lightning up the boxes, getting down the field for more touchdown opportunities. I heard lightning the boxes. Like there's. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said. Well, lightning doesn't make sense. Thank you. That's thunder. Do you ever been hit by lightning, Mike? Uh, no. You'll hear something. You'll make a sound. You'll hear something. You'll hear something. All right, Jason. I did not see this name in here yet. So, uh, it brings me great joy. I am hungry for more Keon Coleman. He had such a great. quiet week. The bills didn't throw the ball much. I mean, Josh Allen completed five passes in the first half. Five passes. Josh Allen. They want to run the ball more. We saw this with Brady. But we also know at the end of the year, you're going to have Josh Allen at 4,000 passing yards. He's going to end up there. He always does. He's usually 4,500 passing yards. And if you look at the metrics behind the scenes on Keon Coleman,

He did everything you wanted. Who had the most snaps with wide receivers? He did. Who had the most targets at wide receivers? He did. He led this team. Who's the most talented wide receiver they have by far? By far, Keon Coleman is. And so the fact that week one, there was so many questions about, you know, I remember early in the offices, is like, is he having trouble learning the playbook? He's only going to be in one spot. They used him all over the place. He had five targets in this game. He had an underneath route. It was trailing, you know, 12 yards on a first down. Did you get to go watch all these by chance? Yeah, I was really impressed. Yeah, I mean, they isolated him on the right side for his next target. He sat in a zone, which was my favorite one, sat really nicely in the zone on his third target. He got a deep one-on-one ball on his fourth target, which he caught. That's like his specialty for 28 yards. And then the next target was an in-zone target. So it's like...

The utilization was there. The talent is there. This is a highly drafted rookie wide receiver who on week one was, you know, there was all these questions. And in fact, at the very, very beginning of the game was like, oh, is this going to be Mac Hollins? You know, you had these questions of who's going to be the wide receiver. It wasn't Curtis Samuel. No. And in this game, it wasn't Dalton Kincaid either. But I think Coleman and Kincaid are bylaws based on what happened in week one. Yes. And look, when a rookie wide receiver. does something of any note and 4 for 51 in your first professional game that is of note especially when you were drafted later I would be pretty aggressive with him and then my hungry for more it's the whole team it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers what is the actual truth about this team is Chris Godwin back because he was 8 for 89 with a touchdown 55% of his snaps were in the slot

And look, he is a player who has been good in his career. We were excited but hesitant about the whole offseason news about him moving back to the slot. Because he was taken out of it last year. And his production went down. So that's a question. I mean, Baker, can he keep it up? Absolutely. Or like, that's a question. And then Jalen McMillan. Third round rookie wide receiver, a full-time starter immediately. He only had one catch. It was a 32-yard touchdown. And there was another play where I'm trying to remember, like it was, I think Baker just missed him. He had a bad drop. Or it was a drop. Yeah, he had a bad drop to start his career a la what we saw from Harrison, too. Yeah, I couldn't recall his fault it was. But it was a touchdown. It's a drop. That sucks. It's a young kid out there getting his first.

you know, action in the NFL, it happens. But the fact that he had broken free and could have scored two times in this, two big touchdowns in this game, is McMillan, a guy who's going to pop up here as it's going to be a fantasy starter. He ran the most routes on the team. That could be a production or a product of game script because they were destroying Washington. But this Bucks team overall, it's exciting. You could be hungry for more of what you saw from the Bucks across the board, every single player on that roster. You know, it was easy to dismiss some of the Saints performance in week one because of Carolina. We're going to find out whether it was worthy to, you know, is this the prescription for Tampa or just a product of playing a bad defense? Yeah. But I'm hungry for more of Godwin, for sure. McMillan, it's neat to have a younger player with the chance to emerge. And then ho-hum, Mike Evans. Two more touchdowns. We just do what we do. And that first touchdown was.

He had Go Go Gadget extendable arms. It was first ballot. It was first ballot arms. He is going to get into the Hall of Fame right away on that second ballot. I mean, when that second ballot comes around, people are going to be like, yep, I've been waiting for this one. But if he does put up a 36 touchdown season based on the current pace. If he puts up a 36 touchdown season, you'll change your mind. I will 100% change that. That was. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. All right, that was Hungry for More, presented by Uber Eats, get game day deals all season long, only on Uber Eats, official on-demand food delivery partner of the NFL order now. We're going to take a break, come back with some news. Well, we got big news to talk about, so let's jump in. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance.

Let's start with the Thursday night updates that we have, and we're previewing that game today as well. But Rahim Moster has been ruled out for Thursday's game against the Bills. Devon A. Chan, both Moster and A. Chan had been marked as did not practice for the two pretend practices. A. Chan will be a game time decision. Mike McDaniel said we'll see. He was getting some work in today. Lighter, but he's actually practicing. So it would seem like he will play. Cameron Wolf on ESPN said that they watched him go through all the running back drills and reps, including changing direction, catching passes on his ankle, no red jersey or clear visual limitations from the media viewing. And I need that, Mike. I need this quote. I need. I think you know what I'm hungry for. I'm hungry for more Devon H. The question will be if he's active, what is the utilization of?

Jeff Wilson Jr. and Jalen Wright, who will be active in this game because he was inactive in week one with Mostered out. You know the team likes to use multiple backs. A. Chan is coming off of an injury, and I wouldn't have expected him to get everything anyways. So then what do you do with those other two guys and how risky is the start of A. Chan if you know that a, you know, this is a situation where you could see, it could be the T. Higgins. Like you could have. some opportunity and a re-injury and you could be sad. But at the same time, A-chan represents such incredible upside. How do you not play it? Yeah, the fact that it's an ankle, like I would be much more concerned if it was a tissue issue of reaggravation. You know, obviously you can get your ankle rolled up on again. But if they tape the ankle and it's medically fine for him to play,

I'm not scared about playing him in that situation. I think the real question is whether he's there or not, there will be value to either Jeff Wilson or Jalen Wright, and you've got to figure out which one of those two to start. Wright has far more juice, and in this offense, you could see one of those big explosive plays. But I would expect right now, I would expect Jeff Wilson to be the Rahim Mostert role. He was active in week one. and he has been a real big part of this team in this running back room this offseason. They give out these special jerseys for the best player in practice through their camp. I remember a day that A. Chan got it, and I went back and I looked at the log of everyone that got it. And one of the only players to get it twice was Jeff Wilson. So he's coming off of an incredible camp. I am in the boat of Jeff Wilson is the...