Week 8 Buy/Sell + Midseason Review & TNF Preview

But one of those guys gives me an extra Leonard Fournette or Aaron Jones in the third round or Josh Jacobs. Yeah, I'm going to take Deshaun Watson where I wasn't taking Pat Mahomes in the third round and I've got one of those other pieces. Now, obviously, if in that third round you drafted Devont to Freeman, I mean, it's always, you know, are you going to draft? I'm just saying that if you look at Patrick Mahomes as a disappointment.

When you got him in the third. Deshaun Watson was often going in the back of the fourth or the fifth. I know there's a little bit of draft equity disparity. Yeah, Watson's ADP was the fifth. I mean, between those two guys, I would rather, I mean, here, I'd rather have Dak Prescott. Okay. Like, you know, when we say late round, that's not pushing from Pat Mahomes to the, you know, the quarterback three. Also, the actual quarterback three in average draft position, Aaron Rogers, I think everyone would say he's been a disappointment. He has been very disappointing.

He went nuclear this last week, which is fantastic. Welcome back Aaron Rogers, we hope. But a lot of those higher drafted guys have been disappointing for what you thought you were getting. Tom Brady has snuck his way back in. I, like many in the fantasy community, left Tom Brady for dead, and he is proving me to be wrong. Jason, someone in the top 12 that you think will finish outside of the top 12 example last year.

Your favorite quarterback of all time. Mitch Trubisky was the QB six through week seven. Disgusting. Mostly on the heels of that, what was the five or six touchdown game against the bucks? It was six. Was it six? It was six. But then from week on, he was the quarterback 21. He was absolutely useless for fantasy football. Who do you think has the highest odds have fallen out? Who's the outlier? Who's the spy?

I think the espionage plan against the top 12 quarterbacks. Yeah. If I had to pick one of these guys fall out, not with injury, so not a Mahomes or a Matt Ryan who might miss a bunch of games. It would be Tom Brady. It's Tom Brady for me as well. Take that, Tom. Oh, you've had it good for too long. Look at all my Super Bowl rings. Look at all my MVP trophies. Yeah. Well, I doubt you're a top 12, the second half of the year. Yeah. Take that. Loser. Yeah, I mean, it's look.

Tom Brady, if you look at the last several years, he's, I wonder with these 40-year-old plus quarterbacks, and we saw this a little bit with Drew Brees before, as the season goes along, they tend to get a little worse. And I don't know if that's stress on the body or whatnot. It's also not going to be the same cake schedule that the Patriots have had. Plant Man, no. I forgot we had that Plant Man drop. The Plant Man for.

Tom Brady. If you remember, good for you. Baker Mayfield has been by far the biggest disappointments for fantasy football quarterbacks. He was drafted as the quarterback four currently sitting at QB6, only one performance in the top 12. And look, I am on team Baker. But I'm going to extend that. Baker Mayfield has been the biggest disappointment in the NFL, like just taking fantasy out of it.

The Cleveland Browns with their hype and the hope for Baker Mayfield has been, it sucks. It hurts. It hurts my heart. 100% he is the biggest bust so far this year. You know, we've talked about this before how scary it felt to have him lead our, he was the first name on our bus list in the ultimate draft game. Right. And it was like, oh my gosh. We didn't expect this. No, no. But you had a guy that was very unproven on a.

poorly run franchise it's very difficult to just say yes what we all hope happens which is he you know changes the brown's franchise and and makes them a super bowl contender that was that was a lot of hope a lot of a lot of belief that we had not yet seen and he's he's been bad and here's a thing this week it's the patriots goodness i mean you might well you might say he'll be he might

You might be seeing ghosts out there. Honestly, with that offensive line, with that offensive line for the Browns, I feel bad for what Baker's about to get. Yeah, you're probably right. At the running back position, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, Austin Echler. Those are your top three running backs. Eckler crushing it. One of these things is not like the others. First, before we talk about Echler.

Obviously, CMC, we don't need to talk about. He was drafted as the one or the two, and he is the one, and he is the one. But Dalvin Cook could very well be the fantasy MVP, if it wasn't for the Patriots, like take them out. Right. The fantasy MVP of the beginning part of this season, Dalvin Cook was a guy where you could draft him. He was a second. Yeah. Sometimes in the third. I mean, usually a second round pick, but you're getting an absolute tip-top.

workhorse bell cow back who's been phenomenal in the second round those you know those are the guys that help you win a championship and he's been so uber consistent he has literally never had a week the entire season where he's not a top 20 back and only twice has he not been a top 12 back is he finished top three i think zeke gets back up there i don't know if sayquan can come all the way back but that's rough

Christian McCaffrey will be there. So, yeah, I think he does. I think, you know, when I look at the guys who could compete, I don't think Fournett has enough touchdowns to come up. I don't think Chubb season gets better after the return of Kareem Hunt. So I expect Zeke, Dalvin Cook, and Christian McCaffrey to be the top three. If Sequin could go ridiculous, maybe he could get there.

So I have to take a quick aside here, Jason. Often people ask about our League of Record, how things are going. The waivers ran. Ty Johnson went for $85. Oh, not to me. That's an 85%. That's a fab drop. I don't know who did it. I don't know how badly they needed him. The bigger story, though, Jason. Kenny Bills went for... Oh!

And you know who Kenny Bills went to? Who? Andy? Andy! He's in, baby! Oh, my goodness. Andy Holloway. Yes. Has just dropped a 55 on our boy, Kenny Bills. This is great. This is a great moment of my life. Here's my favorite part. So, you know, I'm in my browser. I'm looking up this, you know, auction report, and I control F, or command F in my case.

And I searched the word bills. But that is not his name. It should be. We're working on changing that across all platforms. But it is stills. All right. Back to the regularly scheduled program. Austin Echler, number three in a half point scoring format. He has been sensational even since Melvin Gordon came back, running back 17 against Denver.

Then he had the down week 42 against Pittsburgh where it was just tough sledding. But then right back at it, running back number five, Jason, my hot fire magma streaming from my mouth take in August in our bold predictions show. I said Austin Echler will finish as a running back one. Well, Austin Echler finishes a running back one. I think he will because he's got a massive lead already. If you look at, um,

You look at Chris Carson right now. He is the running back 11 at 100 fantasy points and half point scoring. Austin Echler has 136 points. Echler does not look like he's going to be uninvolved. And while if you ask me, is Echler a running back one from this point to the rest of the season? I would say no.

Okay. I don't believe he's a running back one, but on the total of the season, Echler is what he was last year, which is a... I think he's an improved version of that, though. Sure. He is an improved version. They've found him more necessary, and Melvin Gordon just looks like trash. And so, yeah, I think going forward, he's a high-end RB2 because of the past catching work.

And, you know, some game scripts aren't going to be great for him. So I think you're going to see a few more outright busts the way that you had in week six. But you see that with most backs. But most backs don't give you the option of having 10 receptions for 100 receiving yards and a touchdown. Aaron Jones, Zeke, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournett, David Johnson, Mark Ingram, Derek Henry, they round out the top 10.

Yes, that means you did not hear the name. Alvin Camara, Super Camario sits at running back 12, and Chris Carson is sandwiched in between he is the running back 11. Who in the top 10 or the top 12 if you want, Jason? Who's there that will not be there? In the top 12 that will not be there at the end of the year is, you know, more than likely it's going to be an injury situation because of running back. David Johnson seems scary for that, but if I were to take the...

The injuries away and say who does not finish there, I would say Mark Ingram. He's a guy that I was... Interesting. I was lukewarm on coming into the season. As, you know, when I do the stats on the season for the ultimate draft kit, I thought he's going to be sharing some time with Gus Edwards. Obviously, the running back one for his team is his quarterback. But the schedule.

For the Ravens, those first three weeks were unbelievable. I mean, Miami, Arizona, Kansas City, where he was, you know, the running back seven, the running back one, I think that gave him a nice cushion. Look at the last four weeks. He's been the RB 38, 24, 14, and 35. Yeah, this last week against Seattle was really disappointing. If he's not scoring touchdowns, which he certainly can, but if that doesn't happen,

I think you're going to be disappointed. And while he got off to a hot start with those first few weeks, I expect him to come back to Earth and be more of a high-end RB2. My candidate would be Derek Henry. So do you, Derek Henry makes a lot of sense, except if you believe the narrative that Ryan Tanna Hill is better for the Titans. Because if he's better and the offense is able to score, they're able to have leads.

They're able to not just stack the box against him. That opens things up for Henry. He was in consideration for me as the top 12 guy that would fall out. There always will be one. But I guess that does say the fact that both of us had him at least in consideration. Would you sell high on Henry? I don't think you have to. He's going to be consistent. I'm just not sure you're going to get top 10 production. Three weeks inside the top 10. Other than that, he's outside of the top 20.

Talking about touchdowns. He needs to have him. He doesn't get that passing work. He doesn't get that nice baseline of just catching three to four receptions a game. So he's my guy. I'm not going to necessarily sell high. I'm willing to, but it's not that you need to bail out. That's not what I'm saying about Derek Henry. At the wide receiver, or let's talk the disappointments. James Connor, my guy, he has been.

pretty disappointing, has been very up and down. I'm going to take the pass. Yeah, you have to. I know you're going to offer it to me, and I'm going to take it because Ben Rothensberger has been gone since week one. I mean, we're about to talk wide receivers, and in the bus category, there has to be Juju Smith-Schuster. And it stinks that we didn't get to see what a Ben Rothesberger-led Steelers offense could have done. You and I both agree that they would have been a very good offense. Andy disagreed.

We don't get to know who would have been right. What we can agree on is they would be considerably better than they are right now. Significant. Considerable isn't a big enough word. And James Connor is currently the running back 15. It's not like he's the running back 42. So if he's significantly better, he's probably an RB1. So he's not, say, Joe Mixing? Now, there's a real bust. There's an absolute. If you want someone to compete and say, hey,

Hey, Baker, hold my beer. That's Joe Mixing. He's been an unmitigated disaster. He's hurt your lineups because you continue to start him. Is it going to get better? That's a no. How? I mean, okay, here's how it gets better. He gets more involved in the passing game. Should happen. They've got an offensive coach that should see that. He is talented. So that's how it gets better. Here's how it doesn't get better.

They're not ever going to be in a lead, so they can't really run the ball. They're going to be down so much that they're not looking for just dump-offs in a competitive game and getting the running back more involved in the passing game. They're trying to throw down field and catch up. Their offensive line is so unbelievably bad that they can't run the ball. It's not just Joe Mixon. Look at Giovanni Bernard's season yards per carry. They're both complete trash. I don't, I mean, at this point, we have to consider Joe Mixon.