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Fantasy Football 2017 - Week 13 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Game Genie

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All the reports right now, Ian Rappaport talking about Amari Cooper. He's right now just hopeful to return and get to play in week 14 against the Chiefs. We know Crabtribly back with the reduced suspension. But Marshaun Lynch right now, he's a very reliable player. I think what we're seeing here is you're looking at Alex Collins, Jamal Williams, Marchon Lynch. They're in this reliable carry tote vein right now where you can feel pretty comfortable. If any of those guys are your RB2 right now,

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going into the fantasy playoffs, I'd feel pretty cozy. Would you feel cozier with them or with Kareem Hunt? I'd feel cozier with them right now. But I would feel more excited still with Kareem Hunt in the potential to give you that big game. But right now, I think enough shine has come off Kareem Hunt after this last performance, enough dysfunction in the offense in Kansas City to cause me to be both.

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excited and afraid at the same time. Sure. The guy I want to talk about is Peyton Barber running back for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which this was, I mean, makes sense though. You weren't exactly sure what to do, how to handle, because Doug Martin was going to be out with a concussion. He kind of assumed it would be Jaquiz Rogers because Rogers was the primary guy to start the year when Martin was facing his suspension. It came out basically during, super late, kind of during the inactives on Sunday morning.

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No, in fact, Peyton Barber is going to be the starter. But he bawled out. 23 carries 102 yards, four receptions and 41 yards. I mean, he, and it wasn't, it's not just numbers. When you, I was watching him, he looked very good. And he's had, you know, last year he came in, um, in relief of Doug Martin during his injury last year and looked pretty decent. My question is.

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for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers moving forward into next year. This season's gone. Exactly. This season is gone. And to me, there is no way that you can hold on to Doug Martin for the amount of money that you owe him when you can cut him with no penalty. And do you feel like, let's say Doug Martin's cleared to play next week? Does it immediately go back to Doug Martin? Or does the team say,

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We're going to start evaluating and see if Peyton Barber can be our guy next year. They lost this game. They're out of the playoffs. Peyton Barber's 23 years old. He has theoretical upside compared to a guy like Jaquiz Rogers getting snaps or Doug Martin getting cut. Out snapped you quiz Rogers 52 to 5. Definitely somebody that you, I think you need to think twice about. If Doug Martin comes back, I think the default reaction is what you said. It's going to be just throw Barber away. But if you're evaluating this team and what you have,

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It makes sense to give Barbara Marr opportunities. I would hold him on my fantasy roster, but I do decide with the default. Yeah, I would add him to a fantasy roster, but I would still expect it to go back to Doug Martin. We are going to get into the waivers, obviously, on tomorrow's show, get you more prepared to pick up players that can impact this first week of the playoffs. Maybe you've got the buy, and you're looking two weeks away. We'll talk about defenses that you need to pick up and start, and you've got to be looking now.

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To a couple weeks away from here. Wide receivers, explosion from Tyreek Hill, two touchdowns on 185 yards. Beautiful, yeah, beautiful call there, Jason. Nelson Aguilar looks great. Nelson Aguilar has, he uses the game genie, but it's only active if five seconds has gone off the clock from the snap. He's not a good player until then.

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But when five seconds goes off and Carson Wentz is doing spin moves. The scramble drill. I mean, Aguilar, it's like 10 yards away from in the nearest defender at all times. He, two balls last night. Okay, he had a great game, right? Nelson Aguilar, 7 for 1, 41.1. This could have been bigger, a lot bigger. Missed him on a crossing route early. I know Chris Collins were they being talked about missing that pass 650 times after he missed it. I don't know why he just kept bringing that up. It's like not like Russell Wilson didn't miss a pass.

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So, because he basically just kept saying if that play happened, the whole game's different. But even the other one, he hit him on a crossing route across the field, but he threw it way behind Aguilar. If you threw it ahead of him, it's a touchdown there too. So there were two bombs that could have easily happened with Nelson Aguilar. I think at this point, you know, you're still taking a risk with him because he's not the one. This is like playing any two, right? You play anybody outside of the first target. You had the advantage of, for Aguilar, of Zachert's going off the field with the concussion.

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concerns. And so Aguilar became a little bit more of a focal point. And you also had Carson Wentz for throw for 350 plus yards. So I wouldn't overreact, but a good game from Agil. It's a good game, and you bring up a great point with the Ertz news. And because this is not the first concussion for Ertz, I wouldn't be shocked at all if Ertz is not active this week. And if that's the case, Nelson Aguilar would be a very good play. I'm more thrilled to talk about a guy that you just can't.

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possibly sit right now. Keenan Allen. Oh my goodness. He's been on fire. His schedule coming up is great. Mike, you want to say something? I just, I feel like I had to apologize here for Keenan Allen. You spent years doubting Keenan Allen. You don't need to apologize. Well, just the fact that like I pushed him so hard last year. Two years ago, last year, even pushed him hard coming into this draft season saying you.

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Keenan Allen in the fourth and the fifth round is going to be a steal. And then I finally, the moment I accept the fate that Keenan Allen is giving people during that midseason stretch, which is you're a wide receiver three. I mean, you're putting up poor numbers, numbers that I can find off the waiver wire. As soon as I accept that fate, that's when Keenan Allen said, oh, yeah, of little faith. And then explodes in Keenan Allen three straight games.

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Double-digit targets, double-digit receptions, over 100 yards in three straight games with at least a touchdown. You feel more comfortable starting Keenan Allen right now or Julio Jones? Keenan Allen. See, there you go. That's the confidence level with three straight. He's in the flames. Yes, and his quarterback knows that he is in the flames. Philip Rivers, and Philip Rivers is like, yep.

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Let's ride this until the wheels fall off. Home, Larry Fitzgerald, blew it up again, 10 for 98 and a touchdown. He plays so good at home, and they're home next week against Tennessee. He even plays well at home. He plays good and well at home. Superman does good. That's right. Germain cursed. Nine for 157. This was a player that Jason mentioned last week is, look, I know we all like Robbie Anderson, but this is a sneaky opportunity for curse. He's a great player. And then Marquis Lee, 7 for 86, and a touchdown, a couple.

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Pretty difficult catches in this game. Lee and Westbrook offering them some power at the wide receiver position. Certainly. More power. More power. All right. Travis Kelsey went ham in the first, what, two touchdowns at a minute and 45. In the first two plays, he went ham and then kind of, yeah. Here's a hot tip. It was really stupid of them to stop throwing the ball to him because as their offense, as their offense really struggled later.

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They kept showing all these clips of like, oh, yeah, Kelsey was streaking wide open again and again and again. He took a few more shots at him later. But yeah, his production was a limited time event. However, it was enough for a lot of people to win their week. Pat Patterson, World Series of Fantasy winner, Travis Kelsey started the day off and he was high-fiving everybody. So Evan Ingram. What a game from Ingram. Seven for 99 and a touchdown with Gino Smith, including a one-handed grab that.

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maybe put to bed some of those drop concerns from last week. This just, this made me so happy because on the Periscope, Evan Ingram's name came up a lot, and I wasn't recommending to bench Engram, but there was people giving me, you know, kind of comparable names, and it was, we don't know what Gino is going to do. We don't know if he's going to hyper-target Shepard, if he's going to hyper-target Engram. He should, but when it's a new quarterback, you don't know for sure what is going to happen.

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Our advice last week with Shepard and Ingram was, look, you have to be honest and say we don't have a track record with Geno Smith. We don't know what's going to happen. But also, you can't let that lack of knowledge throw out the number five tied in on the year, which is where Ingram was. Yeah, there's two guys this week that are very likely to have been dropped possibly under waivers. Evan Ingram, after his poor stretch and then Eli Manning getting benched, they're...

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There's going to be a lot of leagues where you can pick him up off of waivers must add. And I'll throw Cameron Brayton to that mix. Hey, we're back. Because Cameron Brate was a top six tight end on the season with James. And then James went away. And so did Cameron Brate. Fitzpatrick just wouldn't target him. We come back to this game. I'm watching intently because James was, you know, one of the more important pieces in the world series of fantasy final table. And every target seemed like when the game was.

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when it still mattered and the game was on the line, it was going Cameron Brate's way, two touchdowns. When the play breaks down for James Winston, he can hit the A button, and that's Cameron Brate, or he can hit the B button, and that is kind of like flail around and throw the ball awkwardly to the other team. Well, but you've got to throw that late after once you're in the position of getting sacked. Yes. That's when you just tossed the ball out. I was the most James game ever. Yeah. And his numbers were fine. Yeah. He was great for fantasy. If you took the chance on him.

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But then he came through with his ridiculous play. And Cameron Brayt, up the seam for a 20-30-yard touchdown. This is what he's doing. He was doing weekly when he was earlier in the season. Raising Cains, Rising Stars of the Week. I'll jump in first with my Raising Cain's Rising Star of the Week. And that is because we've talked about it a couple of times. Zach Ertz, history concussions, bigger fish to fry for the Eagles than winning this week, having Zacherts in this week.

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and a very talented replacement tight end. I'm going Trey Burton rising star. This is a hot take. It's a wild rising star, but it's the kind of play where I'd rather throw Trey Burton out there with what Wins can do, identifying the middle of the field, and how important the tight-in position is for the Eagles. I'd rather throw Trey Burton out there than I think I would Tyler Croft. Absolutely. Next week for the Eagles. So if Earth, this isn't, if Ertz is out,

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Trey Burton is startable. This is one of the only... That sounds like algebra, Andy, and I don't appreciate it. Four for 42 in limited work last night. Yeah, and the second that we were watching the game on a plane flying back, and so the second that we saw Ertz go down, I turned to Andy, I said we've got to pick up Trey Burton in the Scotty Fish Bowl League because he will be extremely utilized. We've seen it every single time Ertz is gone and Trey Burton is there. He's...

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He's a great target. I love that pick. This is somebody said something like, now that Brooks has beat me, I can't humble brag anymore. And I want to be very clear about this. I was never humble bragging. I was just bragging. I just want to be clear about that. So when I say this next thing, what I like about that is like, yeah, you got, you got beat. Andy's team is 12 and 1. That's right. That's pretty freaking good. Now, I want to be clear here.

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Mike, I don't know if you've paid close attention to this. We all are owners of the Scotty Fishbowl team as one group, the fantasy footballers. Yes. We only have, it's a two-quarterback league. We've only got one quarterback. We're down to one. But get this. We've got one quarterback. And we've been the leading scoring team in all of like the games for the last two weeks. I think maybe this week one other team outscored us. And you're talking like 30 teams.

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and with one quarterback, somehow our team is getting by. We had the buy week this week, so we didn't even play against anybody. But apparently you can do it with one quarterback if you have Alvin Camara. Just hot tip. Take that. Hot tip. But yeah, that was a straight brag as well. Our team has a buy. Alvin Camara also was on the back of Paterson's World Series of fantasy. He was on Paterson's back? I'm just saying, if you have Alvin Camara, you win. All right. So, Trey Burden, Rising Star.

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I know it's a little out there, but I'm telling you, it'll pay off if Zirks is out. I'm going to go, Zach Gert's old Zirks. Zerg? Zerg from Toy Story. Zerxes. StarCraft. All right. I'm going to go from the same game and a little bit out there too. But Mike Davis running back for the Seattle Seahawks, he looked really good last night. He passed the eyeball test. But the thing is, is he looked good a couple games prior as well in the Atlanta game. We have a very small sample with Mike Davis.

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You might be saying, wait, who is that? Who's Mike Davis? Eddie Lacey, they don't want to use him. Thomas Rawls, they don't want to use him. McKissick is, he's not a between the tackles runner. He's great. He's using the passive game while CJ Pro Seizes out. Andy's so glad that I'm back. Yeah. Smooches. Smooches. McKissick. But Mike Davis is for sure.

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the starting running back for the Seattle Seahawks. And they can use them in the passing game. They can use them in the passing game. Over 100 yards last week. Total, yeah, 64 on the ground, 37 through the air. And that was against the number one rushing defense, Philadelphia Eagles. He passed the eyeball test. I think it's late in the season where the Seahawks usually power up. And so this is a guy on waivers. There's not many.

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