Mock Draft Show! Double Flex, Sweaty Picks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/18

One of the insights that you'll see in the ultimate draft kit, if you look at the Red Zone report, Cooper Cup had more targets, receptions, and touchdowns in the Red Zone than Pooka Nakua did last year. And that was with the injuries. So you're talking about a player that is fundamental to the offense that, you know, when you're looking at the names at this juncture, are you looking at players that can be inside that top 15? or players that you're more confident are going to sit kind of just outside that group. I like Cooper Cups upside. And so I'm going to give him the shot. And I don't blame you for taking him over neighbors. When you're looking at your wide receiver one, neighbors, you know, being a rookie paired with Daniel Jones, it's hard to really. I could have had Jalen Hertz and Rashad White combo, though. Oh, that's who I was deciding between. That would have been really good. Or Jalen Hertz and D.K. Metcalfe, even better.

Oh, hot, spicy team. I love the nine spot, guys. I was going to say, how are you liking that? It's one of my favorite spots. It's not the only time this off season we've mock drafted from like the eight or nine. And it's ended up really nice. All right. I am back on the clock. I feel like Nico Collins and Jeline Waddle have been your boys all summer. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm still feeling good with them in the second and the third. Looking at the wide receivers. It. It's not a, at least in this tier of ADP, there's not a lot of names where I have, I have great confidence. DJ Moore, despite doing it last year, my confidence is lower. Malik Neighbors, that would, for me, that's a full Yolo. Like, the path for me, like just trying to think super logically with the way that Malik Neighbors pays off on this ADP.

To me, it would be madness. Like just pure craziness has happened with the Giants turning things around. Daniel Jones playing well enough. I know that the league's going to get all the targets. I understand that. But just because you get all the volume, it doesn't always work out in for a fourth round pick. And so it's guys like that. But at the running back position, a player I've been rising more on is James Cook. And like looking at what he did with the. You know, when the offensive scheme changed, there's no guarantee that's exactly what sticks. But they went to that. It was a winning formula. They got rid of Stefan Diggs, which the actions to me are that, yeah, we liked what happened when we started having James Cook is more of a focal point of this offense. So I think that he is very sneaky here. I think the biggest challenge for James Cook is the defensive, I guess, what would you call it? The fact their defense has gone downhill.

and they've lost major pieces. In that second half, his targets per route run skyrocketed compared to the first half. I'm not talking about last year. I'm talking about for the upcoming year, if they're, they can be put into a position where the efficiency and success of James Cook running the football could be indicted by the defensive performance and more could fall on the back of Josh Allen. And yes, I know James Cook can catch a pass, but that doesn't always translate the way you want it to for him to be a fundamental number one running back. Yeah, I mean, he might end up being a running back too, but I do believe that what the transition was made schematically when Brady took over was the involvement in the passing game. So a worse defense, if they've got to keep scoring, you know, they've got to try to put up 35 points to win a game, that could also end up in Cook's favor, just as a primary pass catching back. All right, the Borgogan went with Mark Andrews. Kyle, feeling good about 407, Mark Andrews?

Yeah, I think he's our highest tight in, but also it's at this point where Andrews or McBride, I feel like I want to take them the fourth or fifth in most drafts. Chase Olave Pacheco, Andrews, after the Andrews pick went DJ Moore Mix and McBride. Neighbors in Pittman. Pitman at 412. That's interestingly late, I think. Like Pittman was in consideration for me. Likewise. I was hoping that like, man, if I get Pittman here, what are the chances I can get my Anthony Richardson Pitman stack, and I thought it was very, very low, so I passed. Well, Richardson started the fifth round, then Zay Flowers Tank, Del Marie Cooper, and Kenneth Walker. Kyle, you're back on the board. You've got two wide outs, a running back, a tight end. Where's your head at for 506? I like the running backs on the board. Like, I like Alvin Kamar a lot, but I have Olave, so that does make me pause a little bit of going in there. And so...

I'm going to keep going with a wide receiver and just swing for the fences. Is this George Pickens pick? Oh, it's George Pickens. Yeah, that makes sense. Of course. I love it. It would have been my pick at 508, so this draft's going great. Mike, Breeze saw Nico Collins, Jalen Water, James Cook. So George Pickens, I figured he would be in contention for me. And this one is, look, it's. like at least 80 p wise it's probably let me just double check my my rankings here yeah it's it's real chalky for me the guy at the top of the wide receiver it's t higgins the wide receiver two for joe burrow i don't mind him in the fifth at all or no camara will be there for you too andy maybe dude would you take four running backs let's find out because i'm going to take t higgins i'm not i really would consider camara there but

I'm taking Alvin Camara. Are you? Oh, man. Oh, he did it. Oh, my goodness. I wanted you to take him. I wanted you. I think the 508 value on Camara is wild. It's great. And look, that pick doesn't happen if it's not double flex. That's for sure. But Gibbs, E.T. and Rashad White and Alvin Camara, I don't have to sit them down. This is not that decision of I'm facing ADP value. Right. And now I've got a bench player and I've got to rotate them in and figure it out. But I'm just going to take them and figure it out.

All four of those guys are in my starting lineup. I'm playing Gibbs ETN, Rashad White, and Alvin Camara. And there's a decent chance that all three of those guys are in the top five in receptions at the position. Maybe the top three or four. You know, other than McKinacry being in the mix, Gibbs, White, and Camara could very well lead the league in receptions. They could. So that is something I'm not going to pass up on value-wise there. compared to the other options. I'm already in a tier of wide receivers that makes me, I'm taking a chance. You are on a hero wide receiver build. Well, and I've got a quarterback I'd love to take, but I already know that the next four teams already took them last time around. So I didn't need to take a quarterback there. Yeah, I mean, that's how you pay attention. Make sure you know, you know, the rest of the draft board. Don't just look at who's left. Look at who's, you know, on rosters that are between your next picks.

So I'm going to build my team very, very differently than yours, Andy. And I'm not even saying it's right or wrong. You're just saying with players that I would have drafted? No, I'm saying that you have filled out your flex early. And I'm going to do something I don't always love doing, but I think the value was there at both spots. And I'm going to take two different onesie positions within the first five rounds. Is this Dalton Kincaid? This is Dalton Kincaid. The way that I see the bills transforming this year. is it's going to be a lot of targets to Kincaid and Cook. I think that they are going to be the real, like, leaders here of the offense. Did you guys both pick them to win the division? I don't remember it from the show a week ago? No, I don't remember. I picked the dolphins to win the division. Yeah, and I picked the jets. I think I have Buffalo still. Yeah, I think you did. So, I mean, you know, they've won four in a row, and this year there's some doubt. And I don't, I think the dolphins and jets are right in the mix there.

So you went Kincaid? Yeah. And you don't look happy because Aaron Jones, Kyle Pitts, James Connor, who maybe had your eyes on. I did. I did. Yeah, George Kittle, Keenan Allen, and Christian Kirk. You had a little mini tight end run there. So if you had gone Connor, you weren't getting Kincaid. No, and, you know, I was between. There's three running backs that I liked right before me, Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones, James Connor. I figured one of those two might make it back to me. And after the Kincaid. Mark Andrews, Leporto McBride, Kelsey tight-ins. I just want to punt it. I think all five of those have a chance to be the number one tight-in this year. So now I'm in a pickle. I really wanted one of those running back since I've only got Kyron Williams on the team. I think I'm going to keep punting running back and go more of a hero running back strategy and look at what wide receivers are on the board.

And I don't love them. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not taking, just looking at ADP right now. Changing your plan. Roma Dunes, hey, Terry McLaurin. These are guys I'm not super excited about Jaden Reed. You know to trade me jail and hers for a shot white? There is, there is a player that I actually do like I wrote down on my board as we started the draft because I wanted to get this player in this draft. I'm. I'm rising on his ability and he's higher on. This mystery man. Yeah. It's Xavier Worthy. This feels too early, though, for Xavier Worthy. And I don't know that he'll make it back to me. But with only, man, I. Woo! Yeah. Okay. Well, we started well, but here in the six, I'm a little bit afraid about my depth at the flex position. Um, based on who's on the board right now.

I'm going to go with a guy that Andy has talked up quite a bit at the running back position. And it's going to be Ramandre Stevens. Okay, okay. I actually thought that the running back value with Montgomery or Stevens in there was the way to go, which is why I'm taking David Monk. No, I'm not. I'm not taking a fifth running back. Also, both lions? I'm going to, I'm going to grab, um, I'm going to grab the quarterback that I wanted right now before I have no chance at it, which means Kyla Murray is going to be joining the roster. I've got a long wait before my next pick. He's the last one in my select tier of quarterbacks. I talked about it on the show. I just traded Josh Allen for Kyler in at first, and I'm very excited about the season he has upcoming. So I'm going Kyler Murray at 605. Kyle just said he would have taken him the next pick. Oh, yeah, Kyle is that?

Is that so? Yep. You would have been my pick. Well, Will Love is still there if you want him. Mike, you're on the clock first, though. So, Kyler would have been in consideration for me as well. Excellent. Consideration. And so now I just double checking what's going on with the quarterback. I have Higgins and I have Joe Burrow, you know, not that far away. Like Kyler and Burrow are pretty close for me. So I'd have that stack. Meanwhile, Kyle is picking two spots between me, or between my next pick, and he has Jamar Chase. Does he want that Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase stack? I do not know. And then I could have my fallback of Tua with Jalen Waddle. That's just, that's my current stack opportunities. Look at these wide receivers that Jason was kind of poo-pooing. So Rome, Adunze, Terry McLaurin, Reed, Jordan Edison, Xavier Worthy.

Yeah, I mean, the upside of Xavier Worthy right here. It is somewhat appealing. It's interesting that Worthy, Hollywood, and Rashi Rice are all basically back to back in ADP. Man, we need that rice suspension news. This is really obnoxious to be this far in the process and not no. Yeah, I mean, I would say that for purposes of the listeners, taking Xavier Worthy here is based upon an assumption. that Rushie Rice will be out the beginning of the season. That could be a false assumption. If we knew that Rice's suspension was going to 2025, oh yeah, that would not be a good pick. Rushie Rice wouldn't even be on the board right now. Yeah, and Worthy would not be a good pick. I'm going to go ahead then, and I'm going to put my chips on the Bengals. I'm going to take Joe Burrow. Get the T. Higgins staff. Now, Kyle, you lost Murray and Burrow, are you sad? I thought about Burrow, but I probably would have passed here. I need a running back, and I'm glad Dave Montgomery got to me, so I'm going to take him here.

All right, you pair Montgomery with Pacheco. You got Chase Olave and Pickens with Mark Andrews. That's a good looking team. One Kylo, though, would make it look just even better. Terry McLaren, Addison right now at 609, not knowing what his situation is. DAC at 610, Swift and Reed finishing out the round. We'll take a break and jump into the seventh. All right, Naji goes at 701. Evan Ingram at 702. I was looking at Evan Ingram in the seventh round here. I was thinking about it. High PPR opportunity. Worthy Oduense and Rice off the board. Kyle, you're back on the clock. Where are you going? There is some running backs that I'm okay with. Mostert and Jonathan Brooks, I think are the highest. I can't do Zemir White for my own personal health. So I think I'm going to go with Brooks and just go with the second half kind of upside. Who's Brooks pick? No. No?

busted. No, not at all. Jonathan Brooks is the pick in the seventh round, which Jason had an exclamation of disappointment. So no Xavier Worthier, Jonathan Brooks for you, Jason. Mike, you're back on the clock. So I'm also, so looking at the running back position, Zemir White, I just do not know what to do with him. The three guys that I would be really considering here, Zemir White. Mostert, Zach Moss. If I go Moss, I am really heavy on the Cincinnati Bengals. If I go Mostert, I mean, I'm pretty, I'm heavy on Bengals and the Miami Dolphins. And Samir is the way out. But I just, I, when it's finally, it's looking me in the face. I don't want to do it, guys. I do not want to. Really? When you hold up his, yeah, the mirror.

Yeah, and I look at myself and do I really want to draft Samir White? It's difficult. I'm going to go dolphin heavy. Daggum it. Man. Rahim Mustered off the board. You should say the name. Rahim Moster. I'm sorry. Rehim mustered off the board was the pick. I was rudely interrupted by it. Jason was very disappointed. I am on the board. He already knows my pick. I actually made a pretty calculated bet that I didn't disclose when I drafted Kyler Murray. knowing that I would need another wide receiver, knowing which wide receiver I'm in love with this year at this stage in the draft. So Calvin Ridley is coming home to Papa. Yeah, that was the, I saw that at the last turn. I was like, oh gosh, this is lining up. That's exactly what I wanted to happen. Jason had written, what did you write on your board there? Calvin. Calvin Ridley, Andy. Yeah, I look. Come on, man. 708. Yeah, I mean, pass heavy team, gunslinger, downfield thrower.

Calvin Ridley, to me, is the best I could have gotten for upside at 708. Like there is a, to me, like, where did George Pickens go in this draft? He went at 506. George Pickens, Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley, two and a quarter rounds later. To me, those are very similar outcomes for those two players. Not everybody views it that way. I like both of them. Two and a quarter rounds, but probably like a five round difference in production. In your... for Pickens being better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm taking Ridley. And you can, you know what? You can enjoy the ride. It's going to be great. Jason, you're on the clock. None of your players are available. Who do you want? That is correct. I wanted Rahim Moster or Jonathan Brooks. They are out of the equation. So I'm going to take a player I keep talking up. I believe that the chargers are going to be more. I should have written that on my board. They're going to be more efficient than what their ADP currently is reflecting.

And I'm taking the bet, the gamble. I mean, it could be Quinn Johnson, Joshua Palmer. I believe Ladd-McConkie will be the number one target in this offense. As an early rookie wide receiver pick, I'll add him to the roster. So just to run it back, Jason, as AJ Brown, D.K. McAfeeff and now Ladd-McConkey at wide out, Kincade and Jalen Hertz in the onesies, Kieran and Ramondrey. You're back on the clock, Jason. Chub win at 710. We'll be watching that ADAPE. We've got Hollywood at 803. So, Jason, you're back on the clock. I am back on the clock. And it's basically between two players here, Pollard and Zach Moss. I've got Zach Moss higher in my rankings, always been my dude. I do think he fits in great for the Cincinnati Bengals offense. And I could use a little bit more since, you know, I've just got Stevenson as my second. I think Zach Moss is a perfect fit for the team. Yeah. All right. I.

Took Ridley knowing I wanted to come back around at wide receiver and take one of the rookies that I like to give me some upside. I kicked the wide receiver can down the road. I have Cuppin Ridley. Jason took McConkey. He was one of the guys in the group. But Brian Thomas, who I really like is on the board with upside, and I'm going to take him in 805. All right. My pick is pretty easy here. I'm going to take Christian Watson, Green Bay Packers, wide receiver, who Jaden Reed is. the preferred player of the group of the crowd going. He went at 612. But just a reminder, Jaden Reed is a slot wide receiver. Christian Watson was the target leader whenever everybody was on the field. And I'll take a bet here that they fix the hamstring. So are we, I think we're both. You and I are both on the Christian Watson side. And I presume, Andy, you're on the Jaden Reed side?

Yeah, I'm not off of Jane Reid. I'm on the Jaden Reed side for sure. I mean, I think Jaden Reed has like has a guaranteed output that's not going to disappoint you. I think Watson has extremely great upside and a complete, you know, a huge risk. Collapse of a downside. Yeah. So Kyle went with Jalen Warren at 807. Ferguson goes off the board. Love Pollard, Javante, and Austin Echler. Echler's usage in Washington will be very interesting this year. Could be a value. I still believe that. Trey Benson at 901, Zeke at 902, Keon Coleman, another one of the rookies off the board. Then Injoku, Caleb Williams, and Kyle goes with Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. So Chase, Olave Pickens, and Jackson Smith, and Jigba, Kyle's team, Pacheco, Montgomery, Brooks, and Warren, his running backs with Mark Andrews at tight-in and no quarterback yet. Mike, you are on the clock in the 9th, just took Watson. So...

This is an interesting setup. I don't know that I've run into this ADP-wise. I had essentially punted the tight-end position, was just gearing up for, like, Jake Ferguson is the parachute at the tight-end position for me this year. He went two picks after Christian Watson. And then as the turn came back out, David Najoku went. And that's fascinating because Brock Bowers is still here. I'm... more on the side of, I don't think Brock Bowers is going to work as a rookie for fantasy purposes, but I'm already in the punt tight end situation. And it's the, just ask like, like legit a strategy that I try to, I'm older, I'm more chilled out with my opinions of just like leaving more margin of what if I'm wrong? What if I am dead wrong in Brock Bowers is.

The guy who led Georgia, like, immediately in receiving. He was just, he was that dude. What if he's the dude in the NFL? And the fact that those other tight ends went, it just kind of pushed it into me or pushed the, pushed Bowers onto my team. Yeah, yeah, it did. Look, Bowers dominated at Georgia where McConkey couldn't. Right. Maconkey couldn't even get on the field. Like, if you look at the opportunity that McConkey has in the NFL, it looks great. If you look at Bowers, it's like, okay, you went to this team that you don't have confidence in quarterback, and they drafted a tight-in last year. But Bowers produced, and we like production, and he produced at a legendary level, and he kept McConkey from producing. So, yes, the margin of error of that maybe Bowers was the best wide receiver on the Georgia team by a lot. Right. And maybe the best wide receiver instead of spinning what, where did Malik neighbors go? A fourth round pick. Brock Bowers was the best wide receiver in college football in a lot of ways.

just did it from the tight-in spot. Yeah. So I don't usually draft him, but, and it's the reason, like, I'm in the punt area, so it's like, this is little risk for my team. First couple weeks happened. Brock Bowers is not happening. Then I'll just grab the hotness off the waiver. I have a couple wide receiver targets that I could go for here before Jason gets two picks. He might go wide receiver with at least one of them. He's only got three on the roster. The other two teams after me have four already. But I'm not going to go there because I think there's several dart throws on the same level. Jameson Williams is one of those dart throws. Xavier Leggett, Rashid, Jerry Judy. Those are all, you know, you're taking a shot on those guys. I'm going to take Gus Edwards. I'm going to take the starting running back for the Chargers in the late 9th. Yeah, I think that the value right now on the board is much better at running back than it is wide receiver. I need a wide receiver, but they suck here.

That's how I felt. That's why I went Gus bus. All of the wide receivers here, like in hindsight, in hindsight, I wish that I did take someone like Terry McLaren over Rashad Ramandre Stevenson, just because there's a lot of running backs I actually like here. And so I'm going to, I'm going to, you know, take best player available, even though I would rather have a wide receiver here. And Tajay Spears, I've got ranked neck and neck with Tony Pollard, who, you know, is a couple rounds earlier. Tajay should be on the field. He's very explosive coming in his second year. I don't mind him. Pollard at 8.10. Spears goes at 909. You're right back on the clock, Jason, but a couple more of those running backs did go. Singletary, Brian Robinson, Hawkinson, and Goddard are gone. Tua and Brock Purdy are gone. I believe you have every position satisfied. So you've got three picks left in the draft. You can take anything you want. I do have every position satisfied. I am still dissatisfied with the wide receivers on the board. It would either be.

taking the shot at Jameson Williams. You never be satisfied, Jay? I can never be satisfied. But I'm going to pull an Andy Holloway and keep loading up on these running backs. And I'm going to take Jerome Ford, who I think gets off to a very strong start. We've had a lot of debate on Jerome Ford in the office lately. It's a bet again. But none of us would disagree with taking him at 10.04. That's an incredible value on the potential. It doesn't matter how healthy Chubb is. It doesn't matter the risk of Devante Freeman around, what did I say? Deontza Freeman. Deontza Foreman around the goal line. Jerome Ford at 10.04 is, at least in the beginning part of the year, going to be guaranteed production. Well, I'm glad I waited on Jameson Williams. I can take that shot now at 10.05, so I will. I do need to pick up a tight end in my next two picks. Mike and Kyle on the board next. All right, I am on the clock here.

Let's see. ADP-wise, the wide receivers, Cortland Sutton, Adnardine Mitchell, Dobbs. Dobs? Do you ever consider going the tandem tight-ins strategy that's getting really big with Bowers and Michael Mayer? I haven't thought about it till just now. Like double-rater tight-in that a lot of people are doing it if you want to be cool. That offense, it should score so many points. Just pause real quick. Okay, I've thought it over. Okay. I'm not going to do it. All right. And I am going to take, look, at this point in the track, how did you know? Yeah. At this point, because you're like, you're taking your shot. Like part of it, I want to chase offense. So I will take Curtis Samuel, who could be the number one wide receiver for the Buffalo Bills. Like, there's a lot of guys that could be.

and Curtis just happens to be one of us. Can we just all admit that there's going to be about four or five different wide receiver threes on that team? That could be. It could be the kid. Like, Shakir doesn't get drafted. But isn't there a chance to kill, Kalil Shakir is the best receiver they have? In my opinion, yes. Yeah, I mean, it could happen. Honestly, I like Curtis Samuel a lot. When I didn't like the wide receivers, I would have taken them, except I've got Dalton Kincaid. I've got the bet on him being the number one target. So I didn't want to double up there. I have, I have Khalil Shakir with one.

more fancy point than Curtis Samuel in my projections. You still have Keon Coleman as the number one wide receiver? I have him as the number one wide receiver, yeah. Which he's in the group. He certainly could. All right, Kyle is on the clock, and I bet he's going to make a pick any second now. Oh, he's back. Yeah, I waited on quarterback. Fun fact, Kyle lost power halfway through the show. He was drafting from his phone. He's in the middle of thunderstorms. And so you didn't hear from him, not because I banned him from the show, but because he had no power. Who'd you go, Jane Daniels? Yeah, I waited a little bit and went with Daniels as the last quarterback that I was pretty excited to have. And it also gives me a chance to swing for the fences. And I'm just going to go for it. I'm going to go with Johan Dodson. I knew that was coming. So the Daniels, John Dodson finale to the draft.

I'm a little. Oh, there's Dodson. We've got Dodson here. Barely. Kyle is, he's doing it. And Mike, you're on the clock. So second to last pick. Jerome Ford is in this list. Ezekiel Elliott is in this list. But both of those guys are gone. I had tweeted out that over the last five years, we see about eight and a half teams that don't have a running back drafted in the top 24. But yet on average, we see. About four and a half of those teams finish with a top 24 guy because it's like projecting offenses. It's just so difficult. But I feel very confident projecting that Dallas will have a very high-powered offense. So it's probably Zeke. Honestly, it probably is. But leave the margin that it could end up being Rico Dowdell, the more valuable player for the Dallas backfield. So here on the 11th, perfectly happy doing it.