Mock Draft Show! Double Flex, Sweaty Picks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/18

Today's show is brought to you by the Ultimate Draft Kit. It's not just a regular draft kit. It's Ultimate. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. Andy Holloway, Mike Wright, Jason Moore, the Fantasy Footballers. Thursday, July 18th. Fun, fun show today. Oh.

Doing a mock draft. We've got the Borgogun joining us as well. Kyle will have the worst team. Yeah, I mean, Kyle is contributing. He's got the toughest job today. Why is that? Drafted against the three of us? Yeah, I mean, he's doing a mock draft with us, but he's not going to talk a lot and we're going to talk about his team. I just don't think that's great for him. Okay, okay. I see what you're saying. However, he does have, I mean, TBD by the end of the draft, but one would think, you know, the best of the selections. We are sitting there 6, 7, 8, 9, and I don't like that I'm the 9. I'm going to be honest. You're going to like it on the way back. Yeah, on the less valuable round? Yes. Yeah, yeah. For those that are new to the show, Kyle is the host of our DFS podcast and our Dynasty podcast. And so.

Yeah, he does a bunch of stuff, though. He just had a writer's call with all of our writers' call with all of our writers last night as well. Our awesome staff of, I mean, there's articles going up every day. Valuable stuff. And Kyle runs it all. So he's going to join us today for ridicule, which should be fun. So we'll get to the mock draft shortly. A couple of things. Ultimate draft kit.com. If you want to check that out right now, we're also going to be live in Los Angeles. Palace Theater, Jason. Yeah, and apparently it's going to be August 24th, because I've been telling people August 26th. And if you show up on August 26th, then it's just going to be me and you. Who have you been telling that? Well, yesterday, Mr. Yeah, you tried to tell my parents that. You were the old trying to sabotage me. Yeah, no, it's just really whenever I've talked to someone in person and they've been like, oh yeah, when's a life show? Yeah, it's August 26th.

So I hope I'm not confused with people now. It is not. It's super not that date. No, it is August 24th. If you're curious, that's a Saturday. Ballers, not a Monday live show, a Saturday live.com, if you want to jump in, and we'd love to have you. We're going to do some very special stuff at the life show. It's our 10th anniversary celebration. All right, let's talk a little news. News and notes from around the league. 49ers wide receiver, Brandon Ayyuk. has officially requested a trait. He is in year five of his rookie deal. The, this is a, like this one's hot. This one in the CD Lamb. Like that's, it's contract negotiations, negotiations to watch. That was a tough one. You tried a second time. Yeah, but the same word. Sometimes you got bail out. That's how I would say it with no tooth. Negotiations. Negotiations.

And the 49ers historically have taken these things up to the wire. Now we had Debo, like at one point Debo Samuel was saying, trade me off of this team, he got an extension. Other guys on the team who have gotten big time contracts, it comes in training camp or even sometimes right before the season starts. So this is not unusual for San Francisco. It's just. If you have IUC, I mean... It is the next layer of negotiation. Yeah, it's unfortunate that it has to come to this. And San Francisco, though, of how they usually do these things late, I don't think they had anticipated the summer of the wide receiver happening, where every single wide receiver of note was getting crazy amounts of money. And then they added Ricky Pearsall, which I think...

muddies this situation there. If you're the 49ers, you're thinking, well, we've got another great wide receiver. Did they bring him in to be the third or did they have a plan to move these other guys? It's TBD right now. I think the expectation is that everyone will be there in San Francisco for this year as they try to win a championship. But you could be moving to a point where Brandon Iyke is the next T. Higgins situation. where he depart. Just in contract. Yeah, where he doesn't want to be a part of this team anymore because, you know, things break down if something doesn't happen. Like, wouldn't we say the highest likelihood right now is not traded, not contracted? I think that's the most likely outcome right now. I think he gets a contract. I do. This off season. Yes, I do. I think they figure it out. But like, like, as of right now, it looks like, I guess just the biggest thing is, I'm with Jason then. Iuke is on the 49ers this year.

They're trying to win. And trading away Ayuk. Just say it. Just say it, you coward. Say it's a guarantee. I guarantee Brandon Ayuk is on the 49ers of this team, or this year. The contract extension, I just believe it. Freezing cool takes. So we can play this with triumphant noise behind it when I'm right. Nothing can be better than Jason guaranteeing Cortland Sutton's situation. That he's not getting a contract. And by the end of recording, he had money in his pocket. I believe it was by the end of the sentence. Yeah, it was mid-show. Brandon Ayuk, right now going in the late second round. I like Ayuk, but that's rich for me. Debo is third round, and Kittal is a sixth round pick. So you talk about the receivers on the team. Any of those values you like? I guess you don't like.

You don't like that. I think the IUC ADP is a bit too high. I'm perfectly happy taking Devo right there. And I'll take Kittle as the Titan 7. Yeah, I agree completely. All right. Do we have any other news we need to talk about? Well, it's just sort of related. Is said first round wide receiver of the 49ers, Ricky Pearsall, is on the non-football injury list to start camp. Just means he got injured away from team activities. Now, Jason, you have a pretty strict... Halloween policy when it comes to you won't dress up as something without a beard. That is correct. Because I did it once and I learned a lesson. I'm seeing Ricky Pearsall with a beard. You know how much tattooing I got to do if I'm going to go as Pearsall? I'm just saying if you want to be hip and cool, Pearsall's your dude. He's got a much better hair line. I'm going to have to work. I'm going to have to do some painting. You're going to have to do some real sculpting of the mustache too. That thing is.

Too sculpted. That thing is finally manicured. Yeah, manicured is the right word for Ricky Pearson. He is a manicured. Yes. Man. Man. Yeah. You could do it. Look, I've got to keep these options open because you're a coward and won't do anything but a bearded person. Right. 100%. Well, some of us dressed up like, you know, took a bigger leap. Hey, I shaved down to a mustache for Jeff Fisher. Daniel Jones won't be placed on the, and you said they'll never do it again. Lessons are learned sometimes in life. Daniel Jones won't be placed on the pup. Oh, for training camp? That's, I mean, that's good news for him. Do you have any, like, deep beneath the surface secret ideas that he might be okay? Malik Neighbors is a big deal. Like, it could work for the passing game. If you're talking about just Daniel Jones, the fantasy quarterback,

him off of the ACL. Like his secret value was he ran way more than you would expect. And I don't expect that to happen. They really haven't had the kind of weapons that they dreamed up for him. Like even the Darren Waller situation. Yeah, that's fair. He was hurt during part of the year. And then Jones was injured. It just, they're obviously all in on Daniel Jones. If you watch the hard knocks and the departure of Sequin Barclay, it's like, hey, Daniel Jones is going to either. break through this year or we're going to know we're going to know by the end of this year what we need to do it is it is really funny from that hard knocks how much they seem like they are totally 100% in on daniel jones they paid him they want to improve the offensive line and get him a weapon unless drake may is available and then they're like oh man we'll trade a lot for drake that's true but here so daniel jones contract i mean even next year

I'm looking at over the cap. You're talking a $20 million dead cap situation. So, like, not that teams aren't afraid to eat that these days. You know, look at the Russell Wilson contract, but that's hard to stomach. Quarterbacks right now, two is not paid, right? Correct. So two has not been paid? Dax not been paid. Correct. Those are the two really big contracts that need to get done. Yeah. All right. Let's jump right in. The fantasy footballers mock draft. All right. Today, Kyle is drafting with us. He will have the sixth spot. I'm at, uh, or I'm sorry, Mike is at seven. I'm at eight, Jason at nine, back to back to back to back. One quarterback, two running back, two wide receivers, two flex, one tight end, four bench spots. Uh, basically our league of record format, half PPR. And, uh, we'll jump right into it.

Kyle is going to be the first on the clock here. Christian McCaffrey goes number one, then Tyreek, C.D. Bijan, Amun Ra, and Kyle has gone with, he's already made the selection. Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase off the board at 106. Kyle, he is with us. How do you feel about your pick, Kyle, on a scale of 1 to 6? Six. Oh, man. So you're not confident. Yeah, he only thinks his pick is a six. That's embarrassing. Jamar Chase at 106 behind Amman Ra. Do you think you're going to see that a lot? I don't. I think Jamar Chase will usually go ahead of Amman Rae St. Brown. I know some rankings have him flip. I don't blame anyone for, I mean, Amman Ra is awesome. Yeah. You want to take him higher, you know, go for it. I am very, very, very in on Jamar Chase.

uh this season joe burrow i i think that the bengal's office is going to be outstanding so i would have taken chase over uman roe st brown and kyle just got lucky well chase to kyle mike you're on the clock thought process here in the first is a 12 team league so looking at the way that this is unfolded uh you know jefferson is still there and it's between two players honestly for me it's between Justin Jefferson and Brees Hall, and I'm going to start my mock draft for this one. I'm going to go with Brees Hall. I think we're all in agreement that McCaffrey, B, Jean, Brees, it would not be surprising in the least for Bajon or Bress to finish number one over McCaffrey. I don't think it's crazy for that to happen. So to grab him at the back of the first and started off with that setting up perhaps.

Hero RB build, we'll see, but I'd be real happy with Breece here. Right now, if you look at our consensus tiers in the UDK, Tyreek and Lamer in a tier of their own. Right. Amunerra and J. Marr Chase are in a second tier. The next group, Justin Jefferson, A.J. Brown, Pooka, Kua. So I would be at the top of a tier drafting wide receiver here. But it's still a tier you want to be a part of. It's absolutely a tier I want to be a part of, nor would I have the option to get the bottom of the tier because they're all going to be gone by the time they come around. I'm just explaining. I wanted to bring in the UDK and how we break down our rankings a little bit more. So, you know, I normally try to go running back. If I did go running back here, I'm probably drafting Jamir Gibbs in a half PPR, 12 team league, a couple of flexes. I feel more comfortable filling those flexes up.

later on at the wide receiver position while the running backs dry up. And between Jefferson and Gibbs and trying to decide as a mock draft, what experiment would I rather go through here? I'm going to take Jemir Gibbs. I'm going to go with Gibbs and leave Jason the difficult decision between, I imagine, Kyron Williams and Justin Jefferson. So this is great. No, Justice Jefferson is not in consideration here for me. Okay. Then I'm going to, it's the full time out. What do you put the odds are? Because this is where Jefferson's going. Like he's not being completely in utterly disrespected, but he still is in my opinion.

the best wide receiver in football, what's the percentage chance you're like taking on the risk of we all look really dumb at the end of the year and you go, oh yeah, the guy who I thought was the best wide receiver in football is in fact the best wide receiver in football. I don't think that that's going to happen. If you're talking about finishing as the number one fantasy option, no, I don't see that as a range of outcome. What about two? One or two. I don't think so. Now, don't hear what I'm not saying. I love Justice Jefferson. I would take him here in a couple of spots. One of these days, I'm going to hear what he's not saying, whether he likes it or not. But it's just touchdowns. Like rookie quarterbacks don't throw a lot of touchdowns. Sam Darnel's going to start the year. At some point, the transition will be made. I just don't believe that the ceiling is there. He's going to be awesome. He's going to have 1,500 yards. But, you know, he's not going to have nine touchdowns. And so I want a guy who.

Could have 1,500 yards and 10 touchdowns, and there's one on the board. I mean, two have led the league in passing. That's Tyreeks quarterback. C.D. Lamb with Dak, amazing. Almanra's got golf, great offense. Jamar Chase has Burrow. Even going beyond just in Jefferson, right? A.J. Brown. Exactly. Who's going to be my pick? Okay. Yeah, AJ Brown is ranked. I mean, one of the things that made the difference for me, I'm not taking Jefferson. I wanted the name. I'll be honest. When you get to 108 and you're sitting there with Jefferson, you're like, That sounds pretty sexy. But I got A.J. Brown ranked higher too. I wasn't willing to do it. Yeah, I've got them ranked higher. I want that offense of the Eagles over the Vikings. And so when I was on the clock or when I was two picks away, I wanted Gibbs or A.J. Brown. So when I heard you say you were between Jefferson and Gibbs, I was very, very happy. I'm going to take A.J. Brown. And you're right. I am hoping for Karen Williams to make it back to me, which he should on ADP. He's been at the like two, three turn.

So I'm reaching for him here, but I am going to do that. Get a wide receiver and a running back. You could say who went in between. So just real quick, a note for Justin Jefferson to remember the games with Kirk were fantastic. People were remember those. But the four full games that he played, not with Kirk. You know, we're talking, we got some Nick Mullen's games here. He was the wide receiver 26, but he still put up 12 points. So that's not the end of the world. Then he was the wide receiver 6 with 23, a disaster of a week against Green Bay, and then final week 18, 30 points, wide receiver 2. So three of the four games with Nick Mullins, and technically Jaron Hall started one. The bad one. Yeah. So technically he started that one. But three of four, double digits, two of four, 20 plus. Just, I mean. I don't see a world where Justin Jefferson doesn't finish as a wide receiver one.

Okay. You know, like, he's going to have enough volume and he's so good that he should be a wide receiver one. I just think he's going to be a back half wide receiver one this season, not a top half. And right now in the first round, I'm trying to draft someone that has the potential to be the, you know, the wide receiver one. All right. After A.J. Brown, we had Jefferson, Jonathan Taylor, Pooka, finishing the first round. We'll take a break and hit the second round. All right. First round, Kyle went with Jamar Chase. Mike has Breeze Hall. I have Jamir Gibbs. Jason with A.J. Brown. The gamble. It couldn't have paid off better for Mr. 109 because Jefferson, Taylor, Nakua, then Harrison, Barkley, and Garrett Wilson. I don't know you if you don't take Karen Williams here. Well, and you do know me. I am taking Karen Williams. You know, look, I realize that there is risk in this pick.

you know, the low equity in him, the fact that they drafted Blake Corum. There was a lesson learned. We have our Things to Remember episode every year. And one of the things to remember is if a guy was great on the NFL field and they draft a backup, don't just assume they're going to come in. Because we made this mistake last year with Charbonnet and with Tank Bigsbee. And so ETIN was fine. Walker was the dude to start before he got injured. And so I think Kyron's going to be great. He was the running back two on a points per game basis, just barely behind.

Christian McCaffrey, way ahead of Rahimosa, who's number three. All right, I am up next after Kyron, which is wild. He could have just won one Jason away. I'll go with Travis Etienne. I haven't ranked extremely highly. I like the value in the middle of the second round on ETN. And so I will turn there. I was going to take a quick glance at our running back tiers. Again, that would be our... kind of consensus tiers. Tier three right now is Kyran. Jonathan Taylor, they're both gone. Sequin, he's gone. And then right now we have ETN, Pacheco, and Rashad White all in the same group. I look at ETN a tier higher than Pacheco and Rashad White. And so I will go with ETN in the second round. All right, that puts me on the clock, Breece Hall, holding it down as my anchor running back. I'm looking at the wide receivers. Now 80PYs, it's listed as Drake London.

Devante Adams, Chris Olavet, Brandon Ayu, and then Nico Collins. So I have Nico Collins in my top 10, and I don't think that he makes it back. So if I'm going to go a wide receiver, I'm willing to jump a little bit with the ADP there. The running backs are, these are really interesting guys of just, of Devon H.N. Derek Henry. I mean, it could be league winning players legitimately, both of those guys, or they could be like, man, that's really disappointing that I took those guys in the second. I'm going to go with Nico here. I want a top 10 of my rankings, wide receiver, at least one of them, and I would not get one should I pass on Nico here. Well, that gives Kyle the opportunity to jump in immediately and select.

Chris Olave. So Chase Olavay with the first two picks. Jason and Mike both split positions. Kyle went double whiteout. I went double running backs. So after Olave was London, Iuke, Devante Adams, Josh Allen, Devon Ait Chan, and then the third round, Kelsey at the 301, not, you know, not where he was before. Yeah. Josh Jacobs and Derek Henry go in the third round. That being said, team one, Christian McCaffrey, Devon, H.N. and Travis Kelsey. That's a fun. That's swinging for defenses, man. Yeah, that's a fun start. And then Leporta goes at 304, Debo at 305. And then Kyle comes back. And you went with Pacheco, Kyle? Yeah, he was the highest running back in our tears. And I didn't feel comfortable with anybody else. I think it's great pick. Pacheco should get a lot of work for a Kansas City Chief's team.

that should rebound too closer to what they've been scoring the previous five years than what they did last season. This is exactly the situation that frightens me with Pacheco. Because this is the, this is the, like if he was your second running back because he went, let's say, went A-chan in the second round, I'm comfortable. But this is the first year that we're going to be in a position where if you go a couple running backs or you get a value on Pacheco, you're saying you're my one. You're my number one. And that is. You know, that's something he did for four or five weeks at the end of the year to great effect and the playoffs. And now it's the level up, right? It's the tier jump. I mean, also on the season, though, even it took time last year for him to really take the trust and really take over the backfield. But he, by the end of the year, on a per game basis, was seeing 78% of the running back attempts, which is, that's the fourth highest mark of running backs.

And you combine that with a 10% target share. That was last year, the 10% target share. Like, if McKinnon really stays off of this roster, that could even go up. So I really like Pacheco. When I was doing the math, I figured it would come down to two players, Pacheco being one of them. So I will take the other one. I will be taking Jalen Waddle, who, if you haven't tuned in recently, I expect a massive bounce back. Like, when you really dive into what Waddle did last year when he was healthy. And it's just, it's so murky and bogged down when you're just only doing the box score hunting of when he was hurt. Because he was really, he was really just hurt the entire time. And Win Healthy was producing, he's not Tyreek, but I'm drafting him in the third round. And I think that, like we said it, Tua led the league in passing yards. Like, he's going to compete for that yet again. And.

Get some of the couple more of those touchdowns over to Waddle and you have a real value here in the third. Well, I feel like I'm in a tough spot with Gibbs and ETN and not loving the wide receiver tier that is currently on the board where it's Evans and it's Diggs and DJ Moore and Michael Pittman. When at the same time I see Rashad White, who's a tier two running or tier three running back on our team. Ultra T. Oh, brother. I just feel like I'm going to be able to come. Was this a mayhem episode? You're just going. I mean, you just load up after that. You'd be set at running back. And then you just load up at wide receiver rest of the way. Did you wait? Was that a mayhem video drop? Al Borland pulled some wires back there. Do we need to evacuate? I think he thought the mayhem lighting. I was going to say, I thought that he thought the mayhem button would work and it didn't. But no. I'll tell you what I'm deciding between. I'm deciding between going Rashad White.

It's a double flex league. And so, you know, the opportunity to play him each and every week and have flexibility in depth at running back, right, where you're going to need it. Or Jalen Hertz, my number two ranked quarterback here in the third. I think what I'm going to do is I'm going to see what this looks like. No, Mike Evans? With a double flex? I'm going to see what it looks like with the double flex going Rashad White. Oh, no. Whew. I had a whole play in the set that was based on Jalen Hertz. You're going to take Hertz here? You're darn right. I've been doing the, uh, the J. Moore turn. This is an even better J. Moore turn. I'm taking Hertz a few picks ahead of where he's been going at that three, four turn. But instead of Devante Smith, I got A.J. Brown earlier. So I am going to go with the stack with Jalen Hertz. Hmm. You know, I forgot. Doing a mock direct with you, Jason is very interesting. Yeah. That's good. I hope it's not boring. It's one part analysis.

And one part, you are sweaty. You're a sweaty boy. You want a certain player in a certain spot. You're willing to manipulate it. Yeah. I'm selfish is what it is. You know. You're a sweaty boy. I'm also a sweaty man. Jalen Hertz to Jason. Then Mike Evans, Stefan Diggs, Lamar Jackson, Devante Smith, Mahomes, and Stroud. So Jason. not only got the player he wanted, he started a quarterback run that meant three spots after he had a quarterback were taken up by not players competing for who he wanted. That feels good. Yeah, it's really nice. I've got the stack. If you go back and watch the film, when you brought up, you said you're between Hertz, I was like, I look at the camera. Did your eyes get all big? Oh, yeah. I was like, no, don't do that.

Don't do that. I wish I would have caught that. All right. So here I am. I've got Jalen Hertz. I've got one running back in Karen Williams and one wide receiver in AJ Brown. So I can go either direction. And I like a couple of guys in both categories. I'm a big fan of James Cook this year. He was the running back 11 last season. And he had two rushing touchdowns. I think that the vacated targets, they're the second most vacated targets in the league. That a lot of times goes to the running back position. But I feel more confident loading up on wide receivers usually, letting later running backs be added to my team. I also think, you know, if this was a real league, I'd be more confident in adding from the waiver wire at the running back position. So I'm going to take a wide receiver and between D.K. Metcalfe, who I have ranked as a top 10 wide receiver this season, or Malik neighbors, who I just, I haven't been able to, I haven't been able to grab them yet. And I'm not going to here because I.

I do think if I've got someone that I believe is a top 10 wide receiver in the fourth round, I've got to take him. So I'll take Metcalf, but I am rising more and more and more on Malik Neighbors. I think he could be outstanding. This is a real ultimate backfire. After I took Rashad White, Metcalf was the incoming target. So just to be clear, after I took the running back. You got to know your league, man. After I took the running back. I knew what that pick was when the draft started. No more running backs went. It was four quarterbacks and four whiteouts. So you could have had Rashad White. Well, yeah, in that world, Rashad White, I guess he would have gone probably. But you talked about Malik neighbors. I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and draft Cooper Cup at the 405. Ooh. I'm going to take Cooper Cup, and he ends up sliding in as my wide receiver one.