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Fantasy Football Podcast and Live Draft

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interest in his home for a week. That was tabloidial. It was. I just coined a new word, but okay, we're on. Oh, Kelvin Benjamin, come on. Okay, so we are picking from Lamar Miller, who we're not picking. Stephen Ridley, Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, and I'll throw Mark and groom into that conversation. I am not a Stephen Ridley believer, but I'm okay with that pick.

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Would you rather go, Jeremy? Because my man crush on Jeremy Hill has skyrocketed to levels that are close to on health. I think we should take Jeremy Hill. You don't have to tell me twice. Jeremy Hill. We'll take Jeremy Hill over Stephen Ridley. That's so ridiculous. Yes, and there's a bunch of reasons why. Maybe Ridley comes back to us. Who knows? We're taking Hill. Yeah, take Jeremy Hill. There's plenty of reasons for that. First of all, Stephen Ridley is not in every down back, right? You agree with me. Even at his best, he's not at every down back.

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Well, neither is Jeremy Hill. No, I know. But that's my point. Seattle's defense is one. I thought we were playing with professionals here. Maybe that's the guy he left early. Yeah, it is. That guy's auto. Sorry, Tony. You just auto-drafted his defense. Well, that's better than being patently insulted on this listener list podcast. Jeremy Hill. Jeremy Hill is...

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Going to get goal line. I agree with that. I would stand the reason he gets the exact same amount of carries that Stephen Ridley gets even if Ridley doesn't fumble his way out of a job. And that's why I wanted to take him. Okay. That's fair. And I just have I told you how much I like Jeremy Hill. I have huge acts. He's not the same talent as Jeremy McFadden. He can get hurt, too. He can't. He's a little guy. Well.

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And just think of Hugh Jackson on those, I mean, those Raiders teams when McFadden was, he's, Jeremy Hill is much closer to McFadden than Gio is. Yeah, and I would argue Hugh Jackson was running the show and having Michael Bush run in those touchdowns too. Right. He's not a guy to go with somebody's mom. I just, man, I had blocked that. I had blocked that.

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So we are up in four picks. Why don't we go ahead and take a glance at our team and go through that with the listenership here. Jay Cutler at quarterback at wide receivers. And I haven't even put that together. We got the Cutler Marshall connection. Sorry, you run through it again. But Cutler Marshall. A lot of people don't like that. I love what just happened. I'm just looking at our biweeks and laughing. Jay Cutler, Brandon Marshall, Randall.

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Golden Tate, Eddie Lacey, Ben Tate. We got the double Tate, and then Kyle Rudolph with Jeremy Hill on the bench. Okay, so now I guess is a good time to talk about how do people handle bi-weeks? What is their strategy? Sometimes you go into a draft and you let the draft set the strategy for us because almost our entire starting lineup has...

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week nine off we are punting week nine we are taking our loss i you know honestly my draft strategy is consider by at the last possible second if you have to between two players yes let the draft dictate that you know because there's two one one strategy is clearly the one that we have so perfect purposely uh entailed here which is punt a week

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Have all your guys healthy for the rest of the weeks. Other people like to try to cover them up. It's a hard thing to do, and here's the reality of it. You can do all the planning in the world on your draft day. But the realities, those guys are probably not all going to be on your roster. Oh, man. We're up in two picks, and Stephen Ridley is still there. I'm very excited. I still like Steve. Yeah, no, that's fine. Then you get best of both worlds. Pick the right guy, right? Yeah, we did. Because I bet you Jeremy Hill comes off on hype.

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But yeah, as far as buy strategies, I just think that your roster is going to be different as you hit those by weeks anyway, between trades with other players. And when you're talking week nine, that is football-wise, that is an eternity way. Yeah, we won't have half these guys. Not with you running the team. But yeah, it is kind of funny. We are up in one pick with Stephen Ridley still alive, and nobody wants to draft Lomar Miller appropriately. Oh, wait, is Tony auto? Tony's the auto pick. Yeah, so he'll be Lomar Miller.

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Yeah, so we're on the board. Oh, man. He auto picked a kicker. Brutal. That is brutal. Okay, so we're going Ridley here with it, right? You're okay with that? Yes, sir. There you go. Our running backs don't look so bad anymore. No, they look great. Those are running backs I can get behind. I still don't like the Golden Tate pick. That's the only one I don't like. I just don't. No, I'm not going to try to give you the stat because I'll botch it. But Golden Tate.

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when you break down the numbers, has basically the best hands of football. Per Target, you're saying. Well, no, I've seen that before. He doesn't drop the ball. And he is the number two in Detroit. Calvin Johnson has never had a great number two. I think Golden Tate is a great number two. What's the best production of the number two in Detroit, though, for a while? That's what I'm saying? But they have it. Burleson.

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A few years ago. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, who's done it? I'm just trying to think he's produced in the wide receiver's second. Exactly. Burleson? Well, that's my point, though. If nobody's ever produced in that position, why is Golden Tate? Because they haven't had the talent, because I think Golden Tate has talent. That's the thing. And Detroit agrees with me because... So what's his peak? He had, like, what, 907 last year or something like that? 907? 900. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think his ceiling would be 1,200.

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Nine. I gotcha. And when I say ceiling, like, that's the kind of year I'm actually expecting from him. Yeah, I mean, that's something that, again, he's a pick that you have to take to, it's a boom or bust a little bit. And so, you want to go through some of the picks here? Oh, yeah. Okay, let's catch, let's catch the listener list podcast. Mark and Grimm is still available, by the way. Oh, is he? Okay, so since our last pick, so Jeremy Hill,

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Then, unfortunately, some guy had to leave early in he's auto-drafting, so he got Seattle. Bernard Pierce, Pierce, Thomas, Sammy Watkins. Round 9. Carlos Hyde, Russell Wilson, RG3. Auto-pick. Auto-pick of a kicker. Stephen Gostkowski, I apologize. I don't apologize that we got Stephen Ridley right there. Then, Zach Hertz, Lamar Miller, Jordan Reed, Justin. Oh, Justin Hunter. That would have been one of my considerations for our next pick.

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I think at this point you're looking upside. Yes, and Justin Hunter oozes, Justin Hunter oozes upside, and he also oozes basement level. Crap. Garbage. I like him. I do like him, though. He's talented. He's got the size. He's got the figure for, to produce. So how many roster spots we got left here?

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Let me get the... We have four bench spots available. And a kicker and a D. Yeah. So we have four positional players left to drive. So I think Riley Cooper right now, I'm looking at who's on the board. I would love to end up with Riley Cooper. Really? The offense. He's going to produce points. I like the offense. You're not worried about Jordan Matthews at all. Absolutely not. Not in year one. Not in year one. Not over Jordan. If anything, Jordan Matthew has an impact because Macklin is injured.

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Okay. To me, I think Riley Cooper is a steal at this point in the draft. And you're looking at him, potentially he's what? He is the wide receiver one in Philly. Is he not? I think it's Macklin. You count Macklin? It's hard for me to count Macklin because Macklin barely counts these past few years. Well, he didn't count at all last year. That's what I mean. He's just, and even in the preseason, he's been down on his knees a few times and you're scared that he's done for, you know. And he, yeah, the turf monster gets him a lot.

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I think a value pick at wide receiver is where we need to be looking here because three wide receiver league. Right now we've got three guys with three week nine buys. So whether that's, you know, you've got, who else is on the board? Okay, so we... So go back to the last pick because I think our guy just went. No, Riley Cooper is still there. Dwayne Bow just went. Dwayne Bow went. So you got Riley Cooper. Yeah, go ahead and sort wide receivers there on the... See who the best availables are.

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DeAndre Hopkins, according to Yahoo. DeAndre Hopkins, Cecil Shorts, Marcus Wheaton, Riley Cooper, Brian Hartline, Hakeem. Who's the best wide receiver in Cleveland? Hawkins? Over Miles Austin, right? Oh, there's Hawkins right there. He's just so small, but he is really fast. He's really fast. Who's the best wide receiver in Seattle? It's Harvin. Harvin is? Yeah. Over Curse or over?

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Yes. Baldwin? Yes. I mean, and do they, do they year three unleash Russell Wilson? I don't know. Russell Wilson is, he's great. He's outstanding. He's just not a fantasy outstanding. Yeah, and. Because they don't throw. Right. Enough. But they, do you change things? You just won the Super Bowl. Probably not. Maybe you do. I don't know. Devonte Freeman just went off the board. Kenny Britt.

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Kenny Britt was a name who I was starting to warm up to before the Bradford. Poor guy. Double trouble. What about James Jones? What are your thoughts on him now with Derek Carr? He's the number one wide receiver. That is actually very intriguing. I like wide receiver ones. I don't care who they are. I like getting wide receiver ones over wide receiver three. James Jones, he has proved at least in another system that he can score touchdowns. I don't know if he is. Steve Smith. Senior.

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I did not know he was a senior. Congratulations, Steve Smith. He's in his 40s now. No, Steve Smith has looked, I can tell you this from covering the Baltimore Ravens. Steve Smith has been outstanding, far and away the most impactful offensive player in camp. So I just did a quick peek. We are up in two picks, and Mark Ingram is still there. But we probably have to take a wide receiver. Or do we?

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Or do this is our short. This is our short. Oh, Jared Boy can just wait. I like him a lot. Yeah. This is our quick turnaround. So do we take Ingram? And go wider. And then just take wide. Yeah. All the way out. Uh-huh. Go back over to, let's see. Yeah. Yeah, we do. If he's still on the board and we can still drive him, let's grab a running back. He's still there? We do this? Yeah, let's just take him. All right.

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There's enough value wide receiver that I can see. I would agree with that. We have three more picks. You know, James Jones being one of the names that will probably be there when we come back around. And I can tell you as a correspondent, Fantasy Pros correspondent for the Saints that Mark Ingram has looked. H.T.H. Is that what it is? Maybe. It's something. This is the best he's ever looked.

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I watch some of those preseason games. He does look like he's running with his tail on fire. Yes. His eye test look is much different than Mark Ingram has looked before. Any chance they throw him the ball? They've been running him. They've been practicing it with him. I mean, Pierre Thomas is still going to get the bulk of him. But I think we might be to the point where if Ingram's on the field, that's not 100% chance they're going to run the ball.

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But I don't know. I mean, that's up to Sean Payton. Sean Payton is a surprisingly, what's the word I'm looking for? His play calling is surprisingly predictable with what he's done before. If Ingram's on the field, they're running the ball. If Peter Thomas is on the field, they're throwing the ball. I mean, he runs it sometimes, but.

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If you're a defense and you're going to gamble, like, oh, I see Tom, if they're going to throw, that's what I would call every time. And I would get burnt by the run every once in a while. What do you want me to do? Let's see. All players. Oh, I get, we don't even. I'll probably go wide out all the way out. But, yeah, there's just too much value here still. The James Jones. You know who else looks really good that people don't talk about? We're getting deep. Malcolm Floyd. You like him?

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He, Malcolm Floyd has stood out in camp. They said he won MVP. He was the MVP. I heard that. You know, it doesn't, to me, that just is, everybody's all by Keenan Allen, right? But Malcolm Floyd was out last year, and Vincent Brown's gone. I mean, that is still a run-heavy offense, but I wouldn't, I would not doubt if Malcolm Floyd puts up acceptable numbers there. Yeah, I think I am. Riley Cooper still available to. I am completely convinced Ingram was the right pick. I don't think he made it back to us.

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And I'm looking at this wide receiver list, and not that I love these guys, because we're in the, what are we in the 10th, we're in the 11th round. But I like tons of these guys. Hopkins. I don't like Hopkins. He's the one guy that I'm hearing a decent amount of hype for, and I don't, I don't see it. I don't like him. See that TD total for Riley Cooper last year? Yeah, that'll work, eight touchdowns. They didn't get pretty together for halfway through.

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