He had decent production. He finished the year very well. He had decent production last year being on the garbage heap that was the Jacksonville Jaguars. All right, so right after Golden Tate went Stafford, Percy Harvin, Joyck Bell, and then Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan in the fifth is, that's a pretty good value to me. If you are a I take quarterback's early guy. I am not. So we should see if we can wrap up Cutler in this next pick, I think.
Fantasy Football Podcast and Live Draft
Fantasy Football Podcast and Live Draft
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170 passagesSix round? Six round? Okay. I'm fine just to make sure. Or Brady. You do love Tom Brady this year. I do love Tom Brady. Because Tom Brady for the last, other than last year, the three years before, top three guy, Rob Garankowski back on the board. Yeah, I think MJD will drop another round, to be honest with you. I do. Because we're going to come back. We're going to come back pretty quick. We get the quick picks this time. So let's talk about Percy Harvard for a second. Okay. He just went off the board.
Uh, people don't know what to expect with him. Everybody knows the talent, right? The talent is massive. The talent is an amazing talent. And he's a fun guy to own in fantasy because he runs the ball. He returns kicks. But I was just reading today that he's going to be limited a little bit on offense. Did you see that? I did not see this. Yeah, they want to keep him free from injury. So I think that limited snaps is part of the equation there. Maybe he gets some of those wildcat plays. That's interesting. Because he's going to return punson. He's going to return kickoffs. You got to, I, Percy Harvin, to me.
now is he's not your every, every kick returner to me. He is the... Even after the Super Bowl? Oh, I'm saying that's what he has to do. No, I'm saying that's what he has to do. No, I'm saying I don't want him to return. However, if we know we need a jumpstart, then you go return. So he can't do it. So he's kind of as needed versus permanent. Absolutely. That might be a better way to go about it. Matt Ryan, Frank Gore, Andrew Luck.
T.Y. Hilton to close out the fifth round. Starting the sixth went Brady, Sanky. Cam Newton. I know we paused because I'm not used to second string running backs getting drafted in the sixth round. Cam Newton and then Vernon Davis off the board at 64. And so, oh, I guess if Tom Brady's gone, then that makes our decision a lot easier. I wonder if he'll be there. I have some worries that Cutler will be on. Yeah.
Oh, there goes Nick Fools. Some other guys to consider down there. Let's see. You got Romo down the way. You got my boy, RG3. Well, that guy has Manning. That guy is Stafford. So Cutler's going to fall to us. Okay. So I think Cutler is... Whoa. That one fast. I think we should jump on Cutler. Especially with what you said earlier. You said top five potential. I agree with you on that. That offense is... Where did he go? Oh, there he is.
What you worry about with him is injury. Health, for sure. But the offensive line is going to play a part in that, and so is Mark Trestman and just him getting the ball out of his hands, quick-hitting offense, Alshan Jeffrey. You know who else is looking good in that offense is Santonio Holmes? I believe it. That's funny. I believe it, because he's not over the hill. He's just been hurt. He's been hurt, and he's been on the Jets.
If you start, yeah. And his attitude sucks. If you start matching him up, though, as a wide receiver three, because that's what he's going to be in that offense. Yeah, I don't think that's too bad. I just think he's going to be, he's going to offer more value than the Earl Bennett's that were running those routes for Jay Cutler for years past. So after Cutler went Romo right away. So the quarterback run kind of happened there with foals, with Brady off the board. And then we grabbed Jay Cutler and then Tony Romo.
A completely safe quarterback pick. See, right? This is actually the year where I would be most nervous about him with that back. Run heavy? No, with the back. With his two back surgeries. Oh, it's his actual injury. Yeah. I, that would not concern me enough to not take him. But if I'm, if it's between Romo and some other guy who I really like, which I really like Romo too, that the.
I think it's well documented how bad that Dallas defense is going to be. They are going to be putrid. Terrible. Absolutely terrible. Possibly the worst in the league. Up there with Atlanta. I think they might be historically bad this year. That's how bad they will be. What does that mean for fantasy for Dallas? That means they're going to have to throw. You're going to see those shootouts.
Like we saw a few last year with that team. The problem is, is Romo accumulated a lot of his points in a couple big games. Yeah, he did. And it skewed his final position, but he did not produce at an even level for fantasy owners. And he, but if you remember, the Denver, Dallas game, where, man, that was just, that was out of control. 60 fantasy points by our league scoring. And.
And Des is my number one receiver this year, even over Calvin. And even over my man. We got Scott Linahan in Dallas now. Offensive coordinator who led the league in pass attempts when he was with Detroit for the past few years. Yeah, two years in a row, he was the number one pass. Calvin Johnson, if you've heard of him, he's done pretty good under Scott Linahan. Yeah, he sure has. So Des was putting up those numbers with just...
unimaginative that that was a hard word to say for some reason you got it you got it uh and it just they didn't move him they left him in his position and they said okay you figure it out instead of saying this is the best guy on our team let's get him matched up the offense through him and we I mean he is how many I can't remember we don't have the numbers but he's averaged over 10 touchdowns a year for the past three years I believe
He also got dragged down on the one, how many times? Oh, yeah, he got the Calvin Johnson Award last year of receiver dragged down inside the five, five, six, seven times. The most times. Yeah. Which is brutal. That's the worst. That's the worst. You don't want to lead the league in that category. Oh, and when you're watching your fantasy receiver break it and just get tickets. And then Joach Bell comes in. Oh. So we're on the clock here in a couple picks. You want to read off what it's gone since Romo? Okay, so Cutler, Romo.
Mike Wallace, who, I day-to-day switch on him too. I think he has so much potential being another year with Tannenhill, but they still don't seem to be on the same page. Eric Decker, Julian Edelman. That was the end of round six, so we got into round seven with Jason Whitten and Marquise Colston. I like that Marquise Colston pick a lot. Yeah, especially in this league.
We're two away from being on the clock. Let's take a look at the board here. You got your boy MJD on the board. He's there. I still, I hate to say it, I think Kyle Rudolph needs to be a consideration. That's... Especially when I see a couple backs down the board that might have upside, like Stephen Ridley.
like Trent Richardson. And Jeremy Hill. Oh, Dennis Pitta just went. So we might. That moves Kyle Rudolph up dramatically. I think Kyle Rudolph is a high value top five tied in this year. I was going to throw in the counter argument that I really like Dennis Pitt. I think he's the top six in Terrence Williams. So he's there for us. MJD is good, but I think we can get value in the Jeremy Hills and the Ridley's and the Richardson's. And we're on our long gap now.
None of these other guys who we like will possibly make it back. Stephen Jackson's still on the board. Do you see that? I bet Stephen Jackson doesn't get taken until the eighth round, which is insane. He is supposed to start. He's the starting running back. He's supposed to start. All right, we're taking, Kyle Rudolph. All right, grab him. I see Stephen Jackson's name. It's hard for me not to draft him right there. We need some running backs, though. Yeah, I know. We only have. So let's start looking down. You got Jeremy Hill there. He'll be on the board most likely.
But we have to get a depth running back. Fred Jackson. I love Fred Jackson. I love Fred Jackson. As bad as the Bills have looked, that's how good Fred Jackson has looked. Yeah. He looks nice. He's third down back, two-minute drill back. They just don't trust C.J. Spiller. They just don't. And so, let's see. Fred Jackson and C.J. Spiller are the antithesis of the argument that talent always gets to play. Right. Because nobody thinks that Fred Jackson is more talented than C.J. Spiller, do they?
Uh, no, you can't possibly think that, but he is a very, he's a good back. He's a durable, trustworthy running back, and they just, they love his work ethic. They say he works harder than anybody on the field, which I guess you have to do in your 32, 33, whatever he is. Yeah. Oh, man. What was I, I lost my trip. Brandon Cooks just went off the board. Oh, oh, what I was going to say is right after us would Emmanuel Sanders, in which in the seventh round, I'm shocked to see him go that low.
I think that's more where he should go. You're saying because the hype on him. Oh, it blew up. It got out of control. Well, maybe because this West Welker news is coming out and people are calming. Stephen Jackson just went. Stephen Jackson. He looks like he's probably going to play. Stephen Jackson. He went in just before, at the end of the seventh round. Which, I mean, that's, that's a, it has to be a good. They've got to figure out a way.
for some of these live drafts, this is just a commentary in general. Stop giving people the top list if you don't want to. Like, if you're a pro league, you should just have the option to not have those at all. Alphabetize them. I agree with that. Just alphabetize them and have a big search field. I somewhat disagree with it because it's... I don't disagree, but both sides of the argument are it pushes...
It can push players who you like down, but it can also push them up like Jay Kotler, where Jay Kotler, to me, is a guy who shouldn't go, who I've been taking him in the ninth round. And we had to, we had to scramble to get him in the 6th just to make sure we secured him because he was somehow Y-ranked that much higher, which is bizarre. I know that they need that for most leagues, but if a league is with, you know, you're in with 11 guys you're used to playing with. You expect everybody you have their own boards.
You should be able to turn that office as a commissioner. I agree. It should be known. There goes Fred Jackson. So we... We have to scramble for running back here. There's no doubt about it. You have to get it. Okay, so let's call it. Who is left. We have Lamar Miller, MJD, Pierre Thomas. I hate Lamar Miller. I despise Lamar Miller. Trent Richardson, Stephen Ridley, Jeremy Hill. So that's six guys, and we are up in... Bernard Pierce, who we know is starting for a couple games. Ray Rice obviously went.
I missed it. Yeah, I missed it. Go ahead and flip over to running backs from sort, yeah. So best available running back for those ones that we mentioned, as well as you got Pierre Thomas is still available. There goes MJD. Almost got back to us. Yeah. No Sean Moreno. I think he is an extremely value pick. I am ascending on him and have been since the, right before the last preseason game.
You don't want to know why? Because I hate Omar Miller. I hate Lamar Miller. And it's the same. It's opportunity, money paid. And Moreno keeps being the guy, everybody wants to dog on. But he's going to be the back in Miami. Yeah. The first round draft pedigree has done nothing good for No Sean Moreno's career. Because he's an okay running back. He's great in...
Pass protection and catching the ball. He's definitely on the field in those in Miami at a minimum. And he's going to outperform Lamar Miller because Lamar Miller is a talentless hack. Well, that's harsh. He has the physical tools. He's fast. He's shifty. He just reminds me of that classic fantasy guy who, you know, it seems his youth is on his side. Why is it not coming together? Yeah. So.
I don't know who we're going to have. I don't know who's going to be the guy that finally takes Trent 2.1 to carry Richardson. Oh, man. It's not going to be us, though. We are not taking Trent. In the 10th round, I would take Trent Richardson. Why not at that point? But we have two running backs. So you do have some starters on the board. If we have two running backs in the eighth round, what are we doing with our lives? Hey, three wide receiver league. I guess. Trent Richardson has now been drafted at 88.
So knock another guy down to us. Good luck, Jeff. That's right. So on the board right now, starting running backs, you've got Stephen Ridley, and you've got No Sean Moreno. And I think, honestly, Moreno, Ingram, those are guys that I think you need to consider. Not right here. I would not take Ingram. Why is Jeremy Hill climbed up this board so high? Because people finally understand and agree with me that Jeremy Hill will, there goes Marino.
That's an interesting pick. Because he's a starter. Jeremy Hill is, I think he's going to get 45%. Is Jeremy Hill your favorite pick of who's on the board now? No. Stephen Redley is my favorite pick on the board. You're not afraid to him. Did you hear the news? He made the 53-man roster. Well, take him. Who was that clown saying Stephen Ridley was not going to make the team? That was ridiculous. Drumming up some...
