Fantasy Football Podcast and Live Draft

fantasy principle that I live by is you have to make a few difference making picks every draft. There's something to be said about getting the March on Lynch, okay, the guy that's proven and the guy that's known. Yeah, and to go along with that, you're not playing for fourth place. No. You're playing to win. You're playing for first place. Who cares if you get fifth place? I mean... I don't. It was the...

The philosopher, Ricky Bobby, if you ain't first, you'll last. I think that applies to fantasy football pretty good. Yeah. You play to win the game. Yeah. And second place is, what do you are? You're kicking my microphone over here. I'm trying to mess. If you get second place, no one's going to remember. That's right. You'll remember because you say, I almost did it, but you're not going to feel. But the way, yeah, the way you win is those difference making. Absolutely. Somebody last year who, you know, people that drafted know Sean Moreno.

in the late rounds last year, that's a difference-making pick. I remember years back, DeAngelo Williams had that blistery into the season. That's the difference making pick. And sometimes you're going to blow on those. You know, you're going to blow those picks. But you've got to take the chance, I think. And you've got to go with your gut sometimes. Watch preseason football. I'm a huge gut guy. You know, Julius Thomas last year. I unfortunately did not see any Thomas. If you watch him, you'll be all over it.

After the Randolph pick, we hit directly, which is funny, Levy on Bell went right after us. So that says we were at least... In the ballpark. Yeah, we're on track with some of these other guys. Levion Bell, Julius Thomas. So our three options all went right in a row. Yeah. Followed 32, Keenan Allen, and Ryan Matthews, Rashad Jennings, who... You hate? I still don't like. It's the Giants hatred mixed with low upside? Yeah, he just...

He's had so many chances to be the guy, and I know he did it last year, but he gets hurt. He's in a really bad offense. I was just reading about Andre Williams. They don't think he's ready. I won't. He's not ready right now. So, and he looked, Rashad Jennings says he's looked great in preseason. You pay a premium for. Yeah, and you pay, but that's the problem is you're paying a huge price for this guy who in, let's say, six week seven.

Maybe he's not the starter anymore. I mean, to get, you're drafting that guy because you think he's my guy all year long, and I don't think he'll be the guy all year long. And yeah, that's what it comes down to is taking a look. I mean, he's got a new opportunity there, but you have a lot of unknown at a minimum when he goes to a new team, new blocking scheme, new offense. And everything on Eli from that reading, everything when I'm watching him.

is not good. Declined. If you can't throw the ball, you're not going to be able to run. Unless your name is Adrian Peterson, then you can still run the ball. They're just so down. He looks like a quarterback in decline. Now, you just don't know, because I just read an interesting thing. Philip Rivers last preseason. Yeah, yeah, that's true. He had a 48 pass rating, and he came back and comeback player of the year. So you never know, and I don't want to doubt Coughlin and the Giants, but.

Yeah, things don't look good, and at this point, that's all you're drafting based on. All right, so let's catch up after Rashad Jennings was Vincent Jackson, and Roddy White was the last pick of the third round, which I like Roddy White, and that's pretty decent value there for the guy who I think is a high wide receiver 2 with, he can still be a one. He did finish the year really solid last year. When he finally got healthy. Yeah, and then now he's got Julio.

And no Tony Gonzalez. For those who have been watching Hard Knocks, I mean, there was a, there's the clip where Matt Ryan is talking about, that's the Tony Gonzalez route and Roddy White is running it now. I mean, that's, to me, that's a big deal. Because Tony, that was a money route. That was a free touchdown every time.

Absolutely. Shane Vereen off the board. So starting in round four, we got C.J. Spiller at 37. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. C.J. Spiller, top five pick. Buffalo looks so bad, man. I think they've got to be one of the worst offenses in football. And then Corderole Patterson at 38, a guy I think that has the potential to dominate targets and receptions in that offense. Why I would like that? That's a moon pick. I mean, you're going for first place there.

Don't see it happening this year, though. It might not. Yeah, and Shane Boreen went 39 and Andre Johnson at 40. We're on the clock here in what? Three people in front of us. Yeah, so. Rob Grant-Castie's still on the board. Oh, man. Which is definitely, I think... You've got to think about that. Round four? Yeah, I mean... I'd love to get my boy Ben Tate on the... He just went. Oh, Rob Gunn Cassie just went off the board. All right. It didn't work.

So now I think you look value at tight-in later in the draft. Yeah, big three are gone. Unless you're a Cameron believer, which... I am a Cameron believer. Every day, I'm different. No, I really believe in Cameron on that offense. You know, it's easy to look at the loss of Josh Gordon. Yeah, those first two games... And the new offense and just go, oh, you know, it's going to be terrible. But last year is when he exploded because Josh Gordon wasn't there. Exactly. And you have competency.

And yes, I'm using that word. You have competency at quarterback, I believe. I believe Hoyer was 3-0 or 4-0 last year. Right. And you have a new offense, right? You have a new offensive coordinator. And they'll be run heavy, which is one of the reasons I am a bin-taped believer. But Cameron's legitimate. Chris Johnson. Fourth round. Fourth round. Wow. That's surprise. Oh, Michael Floyd.

That was my... Oh, see, I wouldn't have let you talk me into that anyway. All right, so we are on the clock. So best available receivers to me would be Fitzgerald. I don't like Cruz. No. Harvin is... And Crabtree. That's who my guys. And then if we're looking at running back, we got... Ben Tate. Ben Tate, Reggie Bush, and Joik. So I have been...

I'm being swayed. Pick between two Browns right here. You want Jordan Cameron or you want Ben Tate? Those are the two guys that I think we should strongly consider here. The deliciousness that is a coach saying, I have a three down back, is hard to pass. I think that's the problem with the Joy, Bell, and Reggie Bush, his consistency at RB2. 12-team league, getting a workhorse back in Ben Tate. And if you haven't seen the news today, are we doing this?

I think we're doing it. All right. Let's go Ben Tate. Keep you go talk about him. This is great. Now you can root for him. But yeah, what I was going to say is you had a lot of things go Ben Tate's way this week. You have a run-heavy scheme already that is a zone-blocking scheme with Kyle Shanahan there. And he came from a zone-blocking scheme. And all the camp reports say he knows what he's doing. He's leading that team. The other things that went his way is Chris Ogbenaya. Oingo-boingo.

Oingo Boingo. Oingo. Said goodbye. He's gone. Dionne Lewis is gone. Both of those guys were supposed to be third-down-back considerations. Terrence West, the rookie, much hyped. Yeah, he's fumbling away his opportunities, literally. And Terrence West, I'm just going to throw this out because we're going to have to start thinking about it in a couple rounds. It was that Terrence West Jeremy Hill crew, and I've been driving.

I'm the conductor of the Jeremy Hill Express. Yeah, out of the, you're talking the rookie running back. Yeah, the rookie running backs. Um, pot. Because there was a lot of people. So let's name some of those. Rookie running backs are Bishop Sanky, Terrence West, Jeremy Hill, Carlos Hyde. Williams, who we just talked about. Andre Williams. And, uh, is there anybody else of a major consideration I'm omitting? I think that's the big, that's the big five anyways. There's got to be more, but, um.

But Jeremy Hill has ascended up that list, right? What's the news on him? He, well, if you didn't see on the last preseason game, I mean, granted, he's playing backups, but they fed the beast. They gave him over 20 carries, which I think he was like 25 carries for 70-something yards, four or five catches for 40 yards. I mean, so he had over 100 all-purpose yards.

He played well all preseason. He tweaked his elbow, but he was fine. He came back in the game. And the other big news is law firm is gone. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Ben Jarvis is gone. And to me, a team, they were really high on Gio last year. You drafted running back in the second round. That's really high now, as we know in today's NFL. And you take a guy that high.

And you have the plotter of the law firm, and you still give the law firm the majority of the carries. And so then you think, okay, the next year is when the guard will change. Hugh Jackson comes in. Hugh Jackson loves to run the ball. I love Hugh Jackson, by the way. I love Hugh Jackson, too. And then your team, what vote of confidence do they give Giovanni Bernard? They take Jeremy Hill in the second round.

You have to pay attention to that. You cannot ignore that. You don't take a second rounder to sit him on the bench. Right. And make a little guy a three down back. That's not a value pick to me as a team. That's an aggressive pick saying we are securing our offensive. We don't think that Gio is the guy. He's a nice change of pace back. He's a great scat back. We all saw what he did. I think it was the Thursday night against the Dolphins where he had that Madden.

The Madden play where he was scrambled for 40 yards, got hit about 50 times, but still got a touchdown. Right. But, I don't just... Geo's an all-world talent. He's just not a full-time running bat. Yeah. And it's nothing to be ashamed of, Geo. Where did he go? Where did he go? I just wasn't paying attention. He went early. I think he went... Hopefully in the second round. Did he go in the first round? You can scroll it right there and take a look. But yeah, he...

Top of the second. Yeah, top of the second. Yeah, Geo's excellent. And, you know, people like Flash. Flash is fun. I mean, it's, you know, it's very similar. I don't know if anybody's made this comparison. See if you agree with me on this. What's that? And the guy just went, which makes it perfect. Is Geo Reggie Bush? Yes. See, that's, and then Joyc Bell is Jeremy Hill. And he's actually not, he's, he's Reggie Bush light, because he's not as flashy.

He can't do the things Reddy Bush used to be able to do. Probably not as much of a pass catcher, but... Oh, Jordan Cameron just went. I don't think I wanted to... He didn't want to take it. I mean, I did want him to fall to us. We are on the clock. So, um, who do we got here on the board? Percy? I don't, I don't think Percy's the right kick here. I think we have two and two, so Joyc Bell is still available. Yeah. We're sitting our team... What is our current roster? If you could, real quickly. Random Marshall, Randall, Randall Cabot, wide out.

We got Eddie Lacey and then Ben Tate at running back. So those are, we're looking for our fifth pick here. Yes. Okay. So we've got... So to me, we are picking out, if we're going wide receiver, we're looking at Golden Tate. I love Golden Tate. You love T.Y. Hilton. Right. And you can also go Stafford if we wanted to go quarterback. And that's when I love Cutler. Although I'm really disappointed to see Cutler this high on their list because then people will start thinking about him earlier.

Oh, man, we have 30 seconds. So I honestly lean. Joy Bell. I think I'm Tate or Bell is my two things. There is no starting flex, though, right? There is not. But you just, your running backs are going, oh, I guess we can. I'll let you make this pick here. I'm going to go with, I'm going to take Golden. Over T.Y. Hilton. I'm going to take Golden Tate over T. Okay, go for. So I'm going Golden Tate. So our starting roster is filled out. And the reason I did that,

is as much as I like Joyck Bell, there goes Stafford, right? While we are... We should be taking the guy we were passing on, apparently. We're going to see if my man Maurice Jones drops to us in the next room. So let's talk about Maurice Jones, Drew. Nobody wants that guy.

Right? Not only is he old, not only is he coming off a down year, but he's on the Oakland Raiders. Yes. And that is... Three strikes against him, right? Wow, if you watched the preseason, he looks a little different. Did you see the news? Did you see the news on the Raiders? Derek Carr is going to start. And those of us who watched the preseason, and... I mean, you choose to... You choose which parts of the preseason you want to get, but that run on...

Green Bay, I think it was. Talking about his touchdown break? Yeah. Yeah. That looks like the old NJD. And honestly, if you're getting him here, you're not drafting him as the old MJD. You're drafting him as a starting running back. And that's what you're going to get. You're getting good value. Exactly. If he's back, and the injury he had with that foot, that foot sprain, that Liz Frank, that takes a long time to come back from. And I think he rushed back. And he was actually