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Week 4 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Don’t Tilt! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/29

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Nick Foles starting week four against the Colts. I cannot believe that head coach Job Nagy for the Chicago Bears has, he's broken his complete competitive advantage. On a Monday he did this. How does it feel to simultaneously mock him, but also he's undefeat? Like he's totally, it's totally working. Like the illusion is working.

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Well, not only is he undefeated, but he's actually not at all doing the thing that you're backhanded accusing him of. So he's doing exactly what you would do and declaring the starter. But he's, we still get the jab in. I love it. That's right. Look, you don't get a free pass because of like multiple years of being a butt face. And then you're like, I do one thing right. No. Hey, I will say this. I will say this. When Matt and Aggie came to the Chicago Bears, I was excited. I thought I was a good hire. I was too. I thought he was a good offensive mind.

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maybe it's the fact he's had Tribisky as his. Like, what if the Bears' offense is actually good with Foles? Just throwing it out there. It's not, is a greater than 0% chance. They, uh, they were good with Trubisky. The first year, Nagy was there. I mean, they were much better than it has been. So if we want to, you know, spend a couple seconds praising Nagy for.

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for a moment. Yeah, yeah, you're three and oh. It's this compounding thing. It's like they add Jimmy Grandpa to the roster and yeah, they're three and oh. So, um, look, a magician builds his house out of cards. So we'll, we'll see what happens with the Chicago Bears. I don't know. What happens with a house of cards? A gust of wind comes in and blows it all down. Hey, before we move into the waiver wire, which stay tuned. You got to get yourself ready.

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This episode of the fantasy footballers is brought to you by head and shoulders available at Walmart this year. We're doing a new segment every Thursday. We're going to be picking up our up to 100 players of the week because head and shoulders is taking your hair to 100. Get rid of those flakes, that nasty goop, that garbage flowing out of your hair when you're not using the head and shoulders. So we're trying to find those guys, those diamonds in the rough that we think will take it up to 100. And look, not too bad, not too shabby this week.

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Andrew, Andrew Holloway, Devon Singletary. Yes. He took it up to 100. Look, you didn't know that Zach Moss was going to miss. Maybe you did and you didn't want to relay that information. I knew he was a little bit banged up. I mean, that was the report. So that's why you did do that. Jerich McKinnon running back for the San Francisco 49ers. He absolutely took it to 100. Unfortunately, his rib injury might be taking that quickly down to zero. Jason, would you like to speak to your pick? Drew Sample. Oh, yeah.

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My guy Drew Sample took it up to 100% catch rate on his target. So I would say we're three, I would say we're three for three this week. Very nice. Very nice. It's all a matter of perspective these days. Yeah. Take your hair up to 100. Take your completion percentage up to 100. Take your hair up to 100 with head and shoulders available at Walmart. Pick yours up today. Check out this Thursday's episode. You're going to hear our up to 100 picks for this week. Put me in, coach.

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You notice how I hit the right drop this time? I'm very impressed. Yeah. Yeah, I know how to host. All right. Important waiver show today, Gulp, I need to bring up some drop candidates because you can't add a player to your roster without dropping somebody. So I'm going to name some players. And I'm just going to receive the information from you, too. I'm not going to contribute any thoughts. Okay. Because that would be too painful. A.J. Green. No. Can't drop them.

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Because I've never had them. Deshawn Jackson, you can drop him. Yes. Marvin Jones. I would not drop. Yeah, I'm going to hold on to Jones. T.Y. Hilton. I pass to Jason. No. No, I'm not dropping T.Y. Hilton, not with Michael Pittman out, Paris Campbell out. Oh, yeah, yeah. Great. Yeah, it's a good point. Only had to play a half against the Jets. Yeah. Jarvis Landry has not been a good three weeks for Landry. Yeah. Sure, I would be willing to drop them. Yep.

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Daria Slayton. I'm still holding, I'm holding on to Slate. Man, he's a tough call here. I'm trying to remember. So the Giants, here's the schedule coming up for them. They got the Rams this week, Cowboys, Washington, Philadelphia. So you do have a good stretch here. So I think I would hold on to Slayton instead of just, you know, we'll see. We'll compare them to these waiver wide receivers we're going to talk about.

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All right, let's start with the wide receivers and let's start with some rookies because it was a week three breakout for a number of players or an emergence depending on how you define it. But Justin Jefferson, the aforementioned big monster breakout. There was a lot that changed for Justin Jefferson this week. Nine targets, seven for 175 and a touchdown. He played 78% of snaps.

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But what changed for Justin Jefferson is they moved him out of the slot. The first two weeks, he was primarily running in the slot, something he did a lot at the collegiate level. They put him outside more often in this game. And I really like adding Justin Jefferson this week over pretty much any other option. We've seen rookie wide receivers with opportunity, have big time fantasy seasons before. And what I like about it is this team.

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whether they want to or not is going to have to completely change their identity this season. They do not have the choice. They do not get to be disciplined, run first. They're going to be down in games. This defense lost another key member this week. It's just inevitable. They're going to have to throw the football. And if Jefferson is a primary target in a digs role, how do you not take a shot at him?

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I'm curious what you two would spend fab-wise on Justin Jefferson after the breakout performance. Yeah, personally, I would be going pretty hard after Justin Jefferson. You know, you never want to chase the points, but when you see changes that cause the points, and like you outlaid, Andy, there are several reasons. Look, the Vikings.

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need Justin Jefferson. They desperately need him to step up. I was listening to Beat reporters before this last week while they were disappointed with Justin Jefferson. And they were talking about how badly they need Justin Jefferson to come along quickly. And all of a sudden the next game, he's emerged with his upcoming schedule. I mean, you're talking about Houston, Seattle, and Atlanta, I couldn't make a better schedule for any wide receiver.

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Yeah, I would go hard. I would, you know, for me, I don't usually spend up at the wide receiver position, but I'd be dropping 30 plus percent to get them. Yeah, the only thing I'll add in there, I'm agreeing with you guys. Jefferson's the top guy I'm going after. This might be your opportunity to trade low for Adam Thielen. So, like Justin Jefferson is good news for Thielen. Thielen is still the wide receiver one.

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had the down game while now the bright lights are on Jefferson is everyone's going to be clamoring to add him. Go shoot a low ball offer for Thielen. I really don't mind that. I mean, the arguments about their offense having to carry the load through the passing game even more. And that schedule. Yeah. All right. Here's a player I am not in on for the waiver wire. Okay. Brandon Ayuk. He went five for 70. He went three for 31 and one on the ground. And I have kind of.

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Three reasons why I'm not as in on Iyuk. I mean, if you can add him on the cheap and you want to speculatively add, I'm cool with it. I'm curious here guys' thoughts. Here's my three reasons. One, it was the Nick Mullen's experience. So, you know, Jimmy G. was not there. Two, Debo Samuel should be back in week five. He's going to walk right into the number one role. And number three, you saw the majority of this fantasy output came because of a big rushing touchdown.

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A little anomalous, not in the passing game. Five for 70s not terrible. No, he was fine, but this was the Giants. And so I'm not as excited about this as a lasting breakout. No disrespect to Brandon Ayuk. But I don't think it's going to be a lasting one in this, in this offense. What do you guys think? I completely agree with Andy personally. I yuk is someone I would put in a, you know, a $0 claim on at the end of my waivers and have a speculative ad.

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I think you've got, you know, one more week without Debo and that week you might have a backup quarterback. Basically all the reasons Andy just said, I'm not believing that the breakout will happen and continue as the season progresses. I'm a little more bullish than you guys. He could be a one week rental, but still he was a first round pick. They are using him like they would use Debo. And the report is,

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Debo is likely to return in week five. I am old enough to remember when Debo might show back up in week one, and then all of a sudden he's on the IR. There's no guarantee that Debo is actually going to be back for week five. I'm not going after Iyuk as hard as I am going after Justin Jefferson. You think you can start him the next couple weeks? I think you could start him next week against Philadelphia. Yeah, like, dude, Nick Mullins.

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It's fun to make fun of Nick Mullins because he's just kind of quite a character. But he threw for almost 350 yards this week. And I know it was the Giants and Philadelphia is not the Giants. But Nick Mullins and Iyuk will still be able to get it done. Probably a good time for our fantasy PSA after three weeks of the year. Yes. If you're part of that one or two, oh and three crowd, we remind people every year. Look, we've been doing this show for over five years now.

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story after story after story of 0 and 3, 0 and 4, 0 and 5 teams winning championships. Do not give up. Remember, look, my League of Record team with Patrick Mahomes succumb to Jason's high-scoring week. I'm sitting 1 and 2 in that league with a great team. It's just the way fantasy goes. Sometimes you score a ton of points. You end up with an L. Whatever's happened so far this year. It can happen in reverse. You can run off a bunch of weeks, and if other teams are giving up,

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Just get into the playoffs with your team. Yep. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, is half of your league is doing worse than the other half of the league. And half of that half, also known as one quarter, we'll start to quit. You will not be the quitter and you will start winning. It happens every year. Just get in the playoffs. All right. What do you guys think about T. Higgins Chase Claypool? In terms of speculative waiver ads, what would you spend Fab wise? Are you adding both guys? I, so.

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Claypool to me, he's looked great and you're going to have to monitor Deontay Johnson, whether he's out or not. But T. Higgins is actually the more interesting guy to me. We haven't, I don't think we've mentioned this on the show, but John Ross was a healthy scratch. He just didn't suit up. They wanted to get Higgins the ball. So there was a reason. You know, he had 79% of snaps this week. He led Cincinnati wide receivers and snaps. This is the future.

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of the Bengals. The future is Joe Burrow T. Higgins, the first two picks that they had in this draft. And Higgins is great. Like he's, I love this college tape. So I'm, you know, when I look at these rookies, I would order them Justin Jefferson T. Higgins, Chase Claypool, Brennan Ayuk. All right. Other big time wide receiver additions. Are you adding Alan Lazard this week if he's still available? I think you can pick him up and play. I mean, he will be.

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taking on the Atlanta Falcons. And I think that on Monday night that Aaron Rogers is going to light things up. Even with Devante Adams back, you feel like Lazard would be a good start? Yeah, he'll be a good start. Yeah, it's a three. I mean, you're not expecting 146 yards and a touchdown when Devante Adams is back. Would you drop Marvin Jones to pick up Lazard this week? Ooh. Who do the Lions play? I would.

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I can't remember who the Lions play off the top of my head. Who's looking that up? Saints. The Saints. All right. Saints. Yeah, I think I would rather, this week I'd rather play Lizard against the Falcons. All right. Are you adding Anthony Miller after the change at quarterback? No. No. I'm a no as well. He's just not. He's too difficult to predict. Yeah, no. He goose the week before.

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He would be a speculative ad, you know, a $0 bid to me. I would be fine, you know, if I, if I had. Nikol Harry or Anthony Miller on your bench right now to wait and see. That's a great. I would take Anthony Miller. I want to see if the foals change happen. Anthony Miller is just a super good wide receiver.

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He hasn't been as involved as we want him, but, you know, there's going to be a change here in the offense. By the way, but he's not playing. He's barely on the field for over half of the snaps. Would you go, would you rather stash Chase Chase Claypool or stash Anthony Miller, Jason? Yeah, that one's close. I would go Claypool because Deontay Johnson is, if he doesn't get out of the concussion protocol, you've got a big opportunity. James Washington wasn't that bad last week either, by the way. Sure. So if Deontay misses and you need a.

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