Meat on the Bone + Trade Tips

They had some real low expectations for you. Well, grandparents are going to give you props no matter what. But here's the deal, though. The news that came out about Stewart is that he looks like a man hanging on to nothing in New York. And that supports, you know, what we found. But with Joe Mixon, he's very, very, very young, obviously rookie last season for the Cincinnati Bengals. And I am willing, similar to with J. Ajai, when I look at this and I say, okay, I'm willing to say that his inefficiency was because of all the...

changes and his situation has now changed. I believe that the inefficiency with Joe Mixon, he was a rookie. He was behind a horrific offensive line that struggled especially early. He didn't actually get his start until after week nine. People don't realize that it was that late in the season before he became the starter. And from that point on, he only had one game where he was under four yards of carry. So I think that I expect a rebound for Joe Mixon based on what we saw from college.

and what we saw at the end of last season when he was finally his starter along with the offensive line. But it's scary. It's scary to say, oh, this guy's going to be great when he sucked last year on the whole. Is there circling back to Crowell, Mike? Okay. I want to, and then we got to go back to Stewart, too. Okay. Well, do you want to finish that point? And then I'll come back. The point on Jonathan Stewart was 206 touches. That's 23rd in the league. C.J. Anderson is now filling that role.

for Carolina. Sure. And 23rd in touches when you're talking, look, Christian McCaffrey, that's fine. No. They're still going to give Anderson a crap load of touches. And we've talked about the correlation. 23rd. If C.J. Anderson can be anywhere around there, he is currently a better running back than Jonathan Stewart was this past season. You're talking about.

The great possibility of being a low-end running back, too, and no one wants him. If you want to give a running back a chance to hang on beyond their perceived prime, the way that they do that is playing behind Cam Newton or Tyrod Taylor or a running threat quarterback that gives you more opportunity for misdirection for seeing, you know, you've got to keep a linebacker on Cam. So.

I agree with you. C.G. Anderson, we don't talk about them enough. It's going in the eighth round. Is he? Yeah, I would have assumed later. But still, eighth round, potential lower end running back two? He's the running back 39 right now. That's a huge return on value. It was 2016 when Isaiah Crowell was hyper-efficient and had the good year. That was the two years ago. Two years ago, right? Now last year, very bad. Cleveland was a 28th ranked offensive line that year. Really?

That's what's so amazing. He had a very efficient year. That's only... Well, he had huge plays. Sure. He just didn't have that last year at all. I want to talk wide receivers, but I will bring up Samajai P. Ryan because I know the purpose of bringing him up. Which is last year, he was 29th in touch, has finished 44th in fantasy points. We obviously have P. Ryan ranked outside of relevance by a lot, right? 73rd ranked running back. He's not the point here. The point is that there were...

200 touches that went to P-Rine that we expect Geis to be, what, swallowing up? And in Somaget, P-Rine received starter touches in eight games. Yes, very true. Only eight games of getting where he got the bulk of his carries and he was 29th in touches. Darius Kais. I, yeah.

He's going to feast in the running game. And I've said this before because we've sparred about whether or not Geis will be a three down back. He won't. He won't be a receiving back. He will never touch 40 reception. According to me. He won't even touch them. He won't get near that. He can't even touch that. He puts the hands up. Oh, no, I won't touch it. That's 40. He lets a hit in the face for Jason. For Jason! But I will 100%. And I could be wrong about that. I'm not. But I could.

But you will. But I won't. But I will 100% admit that he could have enough volume on the ground alone based on, I mean, this, Samaja Piron having almost 200 carries when he wasn't even the start touches, when he wasn't even the starter, a few mostly carries. Alfred Morris back in the day with the assist, you know, in Washington. Yeah. He was not getting involved in the passing game, but he had enough volume.

in the rushing game. So, yeah. Man, if I get that. So, yeah. Way to close that statement. Nailed it. Stuck the landing. Let's talk about underperforming wide receivers, right? The correlation between total targets and fantasy finish is very strong. There are a couple big time outliers that stand out. And in this category, that's a real bounce back opportunity. Because if you're that big apart.

of the target share, generally fantasy points follow. And the things that can pull you out of that can be total touchdowns in proportion to those targets, right? You just have an outlier year where you don't have enough touchdowns. You don't end up in the end zone. You get dragged down on the one yard line. Like what, Calvin Johnson a few years ago, like six times he was dragged down on the one. The worst. So that hurts you. But let's talk about some of those players. Demarius Thomas last year, under 1,000 yards. I think that was kind of the headline.

you know, shotgunned out there to the fantasy community. Ninth in targets. Yeah. Finish 20th in fantasy points. No one competent at quarterback. I think we all like Demarius Thomas to bounce back so much so that I've got him as a wide receiver won. I don't hate it. Number 12 overall. And I didn't put him in this list, but Emmanuel Sanders also has a huge gap between target finish and fantasy finish. But I feel like we've...

We've talked about those guys pretty recently. So there was other players that I really wanted to focus on. It's hard to talk about Des Bryant at this time because he is currently unemployed. However, Jameson Crowder, Marquis Lee, and hold on to your butts, everybody, Devante Parker. Devonte Parker, I don't know if you want to start with him or not, but.

28th in targets. Fantasy finish. I don't care of 53. Well, I care about that part. I mean, that's a massive gap. Devante Parker and Zay Jones hang out. Oh, Zay Jones was the winner of this award. There are players in which targets become the proof of what you have in them. And last year, to me, what happened with Devante Parker was you got proof of.

the fact that he's not going to change the game. All right. Well, then let's talk about Jameson Crowder. 25th and targets had a fantasy finish of 37th. You guys are still not quite bullish on him this year. I like him. I actually like him more than my current ranking says. I need to take another look there. It's really difficult when you stat out Washington because you have to really project who it's going to be. You know, because I like Paul Richardson, because I like James Crowder, because I like.

Jordan Reed when he's on the field. It's really hard to actually say who's going to be the guy to get done. I was going to say poor Josh Doxon. And you know, you spread the ball around and, you know, and maybe that is what ends up happening is that the ball gets spread around so much that Crowder isn't able to. But he still got the targets. That's what the point of this is is 25th in targets. He should have finished either as a low end two or a high end wide receiver three. And yet.

He was a wide receiver for. So you believe, let's, I know, it's hard to project. 25th in targets, Jameson Crowder. Do you believe that he is a good enough wide receiver that this will not happen again, that he will finish 12 spots behind his target? 100%. I believe that Jameson Crowder is a good enough.

wide receiver that if he were to finish 25th in targets this season, I would expect him to be the 25th ranked wide receiver. The back half of last year, once he got a little bit over his injuries, he actually dominated was very good. He is the best wide receiver on the team. He is the best pure wide receiver on the team. Paul Richardson, Josh Doxton, they can do some things special. The most complete wide receiver is Jameson Crider.

So if you have to bank on something. I wanted to argue. I kept trying to think. There's so much silence, I couldn't even believe it. I think Andy is correct. He is the best all-round-wise. If you're betting on something. I guess I'm curious how much he lines up in the slot. It would be interesting to see that. Sure. A lot. Yeah. I mean, he does a lot. But he is a player that's good after the catch. He's a good route runner. He's a good Doug Baldwin-esque play breaks down.

the guy that gets open in the secondary. But we had high expectations in fantasy form last year, and then he let us down early in the season, and we didn't get back on that train because Washington was struggling, and there was nobody that, you know, Charles Pryor let you down. I think we all grimaced when we started looking at Washington last year. I was trying to pull it up. Alignment data for Jameson Crowder. Thankfully, we have Matt Harmon's reception, and Jameson Crowder was among the top.

just under 70% of the time in the slot. Yeah, you're getting, you're giving Landry light. No, you're getting more than Landry this past season, at least for the sample that Harmon did. Sure, but in production. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're getting light, L-I-T-E. They're not even spelling the word properly. All right, so who do you want to talk about next, Mike? You want to talk about Mark East Lee? Yeah, we need to talk about him. You've got reception and perception up. Why don't you break down Mark East Lee for us?

28th in targets. Hold on. I got a point. 41st in fantasy points. Marquis Lee's season is my fear for Alan Hurts. Okay? Markisle's season in 2017 is my fear for Alan Hearns in 2018. De facto, number one, targets to support a wide receiver two, three range, and yet not.

efficient enough due to a mixture of DAC and just not, you know, facing top coverage in a tough division. That's my worry. I'm not saying that's what will happen. But if I saw a bad season from Hurons, it would be one that looks like Marquis Lee. Yeah, I guess the difference here is what you think about the players, whether or not you think Marquis Lee is a quality wide receiver. Obviously, he was drafted to be that and whether you think Alan Hurts is paid to be that too. I think he is a good receiver. I think you just saw him facing better coverage being the de facto one.

But he's still... And Bortles. Well, but would you still have Marquis Lee down as the one for that team? I mean, if they end up against a tough DB who does Shadow, you think he's going to be on Lee? Yes. Who would you think? Right now I do. No, I agree. I'm just saying like... That's a problem. The argument for why he was bad last year is...

the exact same status that he's in this year. His situation. Oh, I don't think Lee's going to get better, no. Unlike Demaris Thomas, who has a quarterback upgrade, Marquise Lee's in the exact same situation, perhaps a worse situation now that Dante Moncrief has come in. Dedy Westbrook is healthy for the whole season. He wasn't last season. Cole broke out. Austin-Sverian Jenkins. Marquise Lee is a guy that I am, I mean, I've just been avoiding, especially after seeing what Harmon charted him at, how he was just, he was a red flower.

He was a rose, and it was a dying rose. He was a rose. All of his charts are red. Very thorny. Very thorny. When the bachelor, you want the rose in the bachelor, right? Oh, certainly. If you don't get the rose, you just, your empty hand, you go home? Usually roses are. Do we got five minutes to spend on the bachelor? No. No. No. Okay. Usually we, roses are good. Roses are good.

And so that's the problem with calling him a rose. It's got to be like a, it's a dirty rose. Well, every rose has his thorn, Jason. Yeah. Didn't you know that? Sticking with the music theme. Very nice. Thank you. Okay. I mean, those are the guys that I really wanted. Des Bryant was the one that, yeah, I mean, 12th and Target's 24th in fantasy finish, inefficient, problematic. Getting older. No one signed up. You know, there was one other piece of news that I didn't bring up earlier. And that was that apparently.

DeMarco Murray's going to sign. What? Oh, are you going next? And they say he's going to sign me the next week or so. I've heard he's, he's talked to three to four teams. Apparently he's going to sign, Mike. It's going to be big. I remember so big for my dynasty team. I remember last off season. I know Adrian Peterson was talking to three or four teams and.

Every team in the league was like, I haven't talked to Adrian Peterson. He's like, no, no, there's several. Several teams are. And then months went on and then he finally signed with it. I know that you know where he's going. And I think I know you know that he's going to Indianapolis. Oh, don't do it. Let me ask you this. If you send a text to somebody and they do not respond, but you see.