Fantasy Football 2018 - Super Bowl Reaction + Shocking Stats from 2017

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Eat all the chocolate off the strawberries. You can have the strawberries. I just want the chocolate. All right. Hey, let's talk about this. Mike, you'll love it. Despite finishing 21st in standard leagues, rookie tight in. George Kittle. 16 red zone targets tied with Kyle Rudolph and only one less than Zach Ertz. Kittles and bits. Kittle for next year. We talked about this last week, but that's got to make you feel even more excited about Jimmy G.

and George Kittle next year. Yes, absolutely. I'm very much looking forward to the growth of George Kittle. I think that he can emerge as a low-end, tight-in one next year. I'm not calling for the top five yet. Like a Jack Doyle-esque type of season? Yeah, absolutely. And he's incredibly athletic. He's going to have a franchise level quarterback with him. We're doing basketball.

over on draft already. Already. Oh, yeah. And the three of us were in a draft together, and I grabbed George Kittle, and Jason says to me, he's like, you son of a gun, took George Kittle because he is a late round gem. Yeah. We talk about this all the time that if you want one of the high-level tight ends, you have to pay the premium, and the premium is their sticker shock that I don't want to pay. George Kittle is a,

Best ball darling. Yes. I mean, if you are looking for that week to week tied in and he has the opportunity to drop you two or three huge games, that'd be a nice pickup. And he'd be free. Yeah, I'm going to need to issue a correction statement here because while I do think George Kittle has some nice talent and you can get him late, I'm not as crazy about George Kittle as you, Mike. And the guy that you actually drafted.

This was another best ball that I was upset. Oh, it was. Vance McDonald's who goes much, much later than George Kittle. But it's interesting to me. Seven for 83 in a touchdown game. He had a four for 100 game to in the year. Three for 42 in a touchdown the week before that. It'll be interesting to see if he receives enough targets next year. I think it's about the snaps. Because if you look at it, it's like he wasn't good.

It wasn't good for fantasy. You say about the snacks? I wish. It was about the snap percentages for him because here's, I could paint the picture both directions for George Kittle. But do you believe in the talent then? I think that he is talented. I'm just not sure that they're going to utilize him in that way. Right now they had no other pass catchers. And I assume that San Francisco is going to rectify that this. Vance McDonald or George Kittle? Vance McDonald. Okay.

It's going to be tough to choose between the two of them. Check this out. Jarvis Landry is the first receiver in NFL history to have 100 plus receptions, but under a thousand receiving yards. We've seen that happen with three running backs in history. Larry Senard's Ladani and Tomlinson and Matt Forte in 2014. But Jarvis Landry, was this just a matter of passing through the air? They trade away J. Ajai. They lose Damien Williams.

Did I say passing through the air? We said passing through the air. I guess I meant running through the air. You know, that is the dangerous thing about Jarvis Landry is you get so excited about the 100 plus receptions, but unless you're in a full PPR league, you can be let down by him. Yeah, and not only that, but he bailed you out this year with a couple touchdowns. More than a couple. Well, I'm saying.

more than what he usually does. Usually he's not, you know, a touchdown guy. He's four or five touchdowns. And then nine this last year, that is, I would expect that to regress. I would expect next year, maybe his yards per reception come up a little bit, which is helpful. If he gets Ryan Tannahill back, I think he'll be in a better situation. I don't even know if he'll be a dolphin. I don't think he's going to be back there. But wherever he goes, I don't expect him to be up near the nine touchdown mark.

All right, let me ask you this. Is this a rebound situation? So Marvin Jones this year made fantasy owners happy because he led the league with 18 yards per reception on 107 targets. The league average is 12.9. You look at Marvin Jones' career, his average is 15. And that includes this past year with the 18 average. Years before, 16.9 in 2016. So obviously, once he was brought in to be a starter in Detroit, they're...

They're driving the ball down the field with him. 108 target, 61 receptions, 1,100 yards, and nine touchdowns. If you told me next year that I was getting 60 for 11009, I'd be pretty darn happy. Yeah. But do you think that'll happen? Do you think that's what you're going to get from Marvin Jones? I mean, we were really disappointed in the way he fell off last year, and he came back this year and proved that he could be a fantasy.

The thing is, so 18 yards of reception leads the league. The year before, he was at 16.9. So it's not like he went from 13 yards, which that's what he did moving from Cincinnati to Detroit. He went from 12.6 a catch to 16.9, but that's just a, they used him. He was a red zone guy in Cincinnati. Right. He was not the number one running the nine route with a high frequency, with a good quarterback.

So I think that it's somewhere, you know, just right between that. And Marvin Jones is, where do you think, I'll go, Jason, where do you think Marvin Jones should be drafted, will be drafted? Yeah, where he should be drafted is probably a higher or lower than you feel like his actual ADP would be. You know, usually I've got a group.

I feel like I've got a really good idea of what the community of football players will do. Marvin Jones could go either way. I could see people just really believing this going into his third year in this system. He got better. You know, this year over the, we saw some of the, you know, the talent. Yeah. I mean, I'm looking for the word. It's just like, what tastes so good? Potential. Potential is probably closer. What tastes so good? Yeah, we saw some of the pizza.

Oh, that's what it was there. We saw some of the pizza. We saw some of the pizza in Marvin Jones two years ago. You said, man, that's a good slice. I just wish I could get a whole pie. And now this last year, you got, you know, eight of the ten slices. And you're thinking maybe he goes for that full circle. He's going to upgrade to a meat pizza. He had a great year. I buy it. I buy it as well. Stafford's a franchise quarterback. And I think he'll be underdrafted, making him a great value.

My guess is he goes in like the 6th round, maybe the 8th round because people don't buy into this. The eight, what? No. The only way he goes in the ADP today, which I know. February 5th is 80P today is 812. I know. You don't believe it. But here's the deal. He's a fourth rounder better. Calvin Benjamin or Marvin Jones? Marvin Jones is obviously going to go higher than that. Oh, stop. Emmanuel Sanders.

Marvin Jones will go higher than that. What about Michael Crabtree? I would, foof. Assuming he's on the Raiders. Golden Tate. Yeah, I'll take Marvin over Golden Tate. I would take Marvin Jones over. Okay, let's just say he goes in the sixth round. Are you happy with him? That's a steal because in my head he goes fourth round. Fourth round? Yeah. Alan Robinson or Marvin Jones next year? Good question right there. That's a very good question. Because Marvin Jones, do you remember where he finished, Jason? Do you know where he was? He's got to be near 12. $700.

The number 10 wide out, and I buy it. Because if you give me an opportunity, talent, and a franchise quarterback, I'm going to buy into the fact that he can have another successful year. I think he's good for 60 plus and a thousand plus. And the smooth routes of Kenny G, they will hurt Marvin Jones ADP. And I don't, I don't, oh, so smooth. But I, yeah, I think that Marvin Jones will be underdrafted. Now, JBC.

Jim Bob Cooter, he's expected to be back. Do you see any effect of this team when Gimley comes in? Matt Patricia? Yes. And my axe. When Matt Patricia was shown on the sideline all 800 times yesterday, there's two things that happened. One, every single time that happened, we all said. And my axe. From Lord of the Rings over and over again. And number two, I kept.

I kept thinking, like, Detroit fans as the score was being rung up, started like grimace. You know, it's like, oh, yeah. You took a bite of a sandwich and you're like, oh, yeah, this sandwich is so good. The, the mayo might be sour. The mayo might be spoiled. Oh, no. What did we get ourselves into? Now, did, uh, is he, was he happy or was he sad that Malcolm Butler was benched? That's a great question. Of course he's sad. Well, I just, it was a coach. Unless he made that decision. Allegedly.

Bill Belichick has said this was a coach's decision based off of football play only. Yes. So how does your de-coordinate feel about that? I would call it a bad coach's decision based on football play only. Yes. I don't know. Maybe. That's a curious case. Yeah. All right. If your last name is Murray, you go down. DeMarco Murray and Latavius Murray averaged 1.4 yards after contact per carry tied for worse in the league. Next year you'd rather have which Murray. Who would you rather Murray?

Oh, if I got to pick between the two? Let's say you're walking down the aisle and at the end of the aisle you got a Murray one of them. Got to go to Marco. You got to go to Marco if he's back on the Titans. No. No. I go to Marco anywhere because Latavius Murray as Dalvin Cook's backup, what does he do better than Dalvin Cook? Nothing. Nothing. What does he do worse? Bigger. He's bigger? He's better on the scale than Delvin Cook is.

But I'm saying, like, you can't go, okay, it's a passing down situation. We got to get Latavius Murray in there. We got to get Cook off the field. Like, no. He's more of those like, he will spell Dalvin Cook when he needs. Who can hold the water bottles? When he needs to have a sip of the Gatorade. But so, DeMarco Murray. You know who Latavis is? He's this past year's Jeremy Hill. Don't say, Jeremy Hill's coming back. Well, I just mean Deptar. Well, we'll see. I'd have DeMarco, though.

Oh, I'd rather have DeMarco. He'll be back. I think I lean Latavius here. Really? The more I think about DeMarco, unless he comes back to the Titans and they foolishly make him the starter again, which while I think couldn't happen... I don't think it will. And I hope it doesn't, but it could. I mean, I think DeMarco is going to have a hard time finding a job. I really, really do. I think that's not to say that he won't wind up on a team somewhere taking, you know, a...

you know, a small paycheck and being promised things, but I feel like DeMarco is done. Latavius looked still good. While they both averaged 1.4 after contact, when those lanes opened up and the contact wasn't there, we did see Latavis, you know, have a lot of success. Yeah, we're not being very respectful to Latavius Murray there. Latavius Murray does not create. If the land is a year younger.

by the way. Murray is a year younger. Thanks, Andy. Thanks for clearing that out. You're welcome. You're welcome. Latavius is. What? Latavis is only one year younger than DeMarco Murray. 28 and 29, yeah. What? Yeah. I want to get your take on this. Josh McCown. Shocking stat. Average 21.7 fantasy points from week 6 to 13. Third best in the league only behind Russell Wilson and Carson wins during that stretch. Josh McCown.

Could be back in New York as a bridge quarterback to whoever they draft. Could end up somewhere else. My question to you is, if he's back in New York or anywhere else, does he become the Brian Hoyer experiment from this past year where people were excited because Brian Hoyer did the similar things. He started a few games in Chicago, put up great numbers last year, and then all of a sudden everybody wanted to believe in him as a darling, and he just never came to...

Fruition. Or do you think if McCown's back in New York, he's worth a look? He is on the same team, at least. Josh McCown. He won't be changing teams. Well, he might be. I'd say if he stays with the Jets, I thought that was. You mean if he stays with his team, you won't be changing teams? Brian Hoyer changed. Brian Hoyer was changing teams, though. Right. So that was my argument. So you're saying you like McCown a lot more if he's back with the Jets specifically. Correct. Got it. But I'm.

what's going on with that wide receiver situation? Is Quincy and Newman going to be back from his injury? Is Robbie Anderson going to be back from house arrest? The police department? I mean, it's a, it's a tough situation. I'll say this. Are they going to draft a high level wide receiver? When the schedule comes out, if, you know, if Quincy's back, if Robbie Anderson's there and they bring Josh McCown back, when the schedule comes out, if they've got, you know,