Fantasy Football 2018 - Super Bowl Reaction + Shocking Stats from 2017

Right. So, for instance, that's my question. Is he actually good or is Doug Peterson's offensive system? So he's not a top 15 quarterback. If a team, if a team like the Arizona Cardinals who need a quarterback, I don't expect Kirk Cousins to go there, were to make a move. You were out of town, by the way. I want your top two teams for them because we all set them on the show. Top two teams for Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Number one's definitely going to be Denver. Okay, we all said that. I think that's where he.

ends up number two. Mike took Minnesota. Brooks took the Jets. I took the Cardinals. I thought you took the Jets. Or was that you're just your third? I took the Cardinals. Brooks took the Jets. Brooks is dumb. You know, I know it has been said that it's not happening, but I'm still going to go with my number two. San Francisco? No, that's awesome. No, I'm going to go with the Browns. The Browns. Oh.

They just offer him so much money that he can't say no. I just watched, he was interviewed right before the Super Bowl, and he said winning is going to be the number one thing for him. Yeah. He's also said, I mean, he's not, he can get paid by any of these other winning franchises. Yeah, that's why he's not going to the Jets or the Browns. All right, do you guys want to touch on anything else? Larry Fitzgerald came out. He said he's going to make his decision on playing next year within the next one or two weeks, which will be ahead of when the Cardinals acquire a quarterback. So, um,

He'll get a sense of what the organization is doing and whether they're going to make a push for a player. He can go talk to General Manager Steve Kime and say, who are we going after? And if they lay out a list that Larry finds acceptable. And what if he says Nick Foles? Does Larry stay around? I will weep. I would assume that Larry would assume that Larry would rather play with Nick Foles than an incoming rookie. Yes. He has a limited window, obviously. Sure.

All right. Unless you guys have other news, I want to get into the stats. Let's get in the stats. How'd you do that? I'm not even mad. That's amazing. All right. Some shocking stats from 2017. If you are like me and one episode of shocking stats is not enough, you can always go to the website to Fantasy Footballers.com. We have 25 shocking stats articles for every position, including Jason's favorite.

Kicker. We have a kicker article. Yeah. The Borgogan. Kyle the Borgogan. Do you know how hard it is to get a kicker article onto the internet? It asked you several times. Hackers try to take that down quick. Anonymous. Came after us. Yep. And they, I mean, threats were made. I even try to take that. I've got admin login. I'm like, no. We had to block Jason. No, we had to change the name to football pushers. We had to use a code name. Yeah.

But we're going to get into some of the more interesting ones that we have. Football pushers. I did, you know. Hey, it's factually correct. It's actually accurate. They push it with a lot of force. Push it with their foot. I don't think that you push things with feet. Really? You never driven a car before? You've never done the move or you go, ha, and you shove something with your foot? You don't drive? Yeah, I feel like that's kicking. No. You kick your pedal in your car?

Ooh, you gently. I step on my pedal. Oh, you step on. Oh, yeah. Every time you hit the gas, Jason goes knee up. Uh-huh. It's like I'm walking. It's only in like quick pushes. It's very uncomfortable. All right. Number one, as disappointing as Sammy Watkins was this year, and Mike and I, we talked about Sammy Watkins this past week with the targets in the context of Cooper Cups' great season. He did lead the Rams with eight touchdown receptions.

Despite the fact Cooper Cup more than doubled the targets in the red zone, Watkins, look, he's a big bodied receiver, right? He only had 10 red zone targets. He had eight touchdowns on the year. Obviously not all those were inside the red zone. But what do you make of Sammy Watkins, his proposed interest in coming back. And let's say they sign him. And you do have Robert Wood, Sammy Watkins, Cooper Cup. You're re-rolling what you had last year, Coach of the year, Sean McVeigh. Watkins is what?

Jason in fantasy football. I think Watkins next season in 2018 would be a wide receiver two, which would be much better than what he did this year. And there's several reasons that I think this. Looking into the Sammy trade a little bit more in prep for this show, I basically realized. So if you don't remember, Sammy Watkins was traded after the first week of the preseason.

Okay, so he had no training camp. Moments after our show release. Yes, he had no training camp. It's very inconsiderative. No OTAs, you know, no, nothing, uh, jelling already for the office. He came in and right off the bat was in on the next preseason game and I think got two receptions. If you look at, so 23 red zone targets to Cooper Cup, only 10 to walk. It's 13 more red zone targets, but that's not really.

What is valuable, right? We talk about that all the time. It's those targets inside the 10. And there, Cooper Cup only had two more targets on the season than Watkins. When they got down near the goal line, Watkins was the guy. And we talked about this through the season. There were a lot of just kind of crazy broken plays where it was the wide receiver getting the job done for Jared Gough, as opposed to Carson Wins, who was...

a magician near the goal line and finding the guy coming open in the end zone. I'll buy all that, right? Like if you spend the money on Sammy Watkins to come back, he's part of your game plan, talent opportunity. We talk about it. His talent, great. His opportunity should be there. That being said, Cooper Cops coming off 62 receptions for 800 plus yards and five touchdowns. As a rookie. Watkins, 39 for whatever, 500 and something. Robert Woods is the bigger problem. The real question is, who would you draft first then?

In a full point PPR league. Robert Woods. Well, you sure. But would you draft Cooper Cup or Sammy Watkins? In a full PPR? In a full PPR? Based on full PBR, I'm going to take Cooper Cup. As would I. I'm going to go Watkins. I think they spread the ball around enough to where I'd rather have the. So just to break it down, four of Samuel Watkins touchdowns were inside the tent. Right. So they went to him.

All right, let's move on to our next stat here. Oh, Hooked on a... Adam Thielen. 143 targets. So the... Hashtag he good. The quarterback, Case Keenom. Thanks. He was hooked on Athelan all year long. That's the most targets for a Vikings wide out in 15 years.

They hadn't had one go over 121 since Randy Moss's Monster 2003 campaign when he had 172 targets and 17 touchdowns. Which congratulations. That's also known as one Sammy Watkins career. That's what that season is. All right. Adam Thielen, 143 targets. Diggs was banged up at times during the season. But Adam Thielen, again, you saw it at the end, the tail end of last year. It translated.

And despite San Bradford going down, Thielen was always open. That's how I define, great hands always open. Adam Thieland, Stifon Diggs, give me your sense of who you'd be leaning on next year and where you expect them to go on fantasy drafts. Because we don't know the quarterback. And if it's Case Keenham coming back, you're going to feel more confident in, I think, the target share for Thielen and Diggs. But incredible year for Adam Thielen.

Yeah, it is. I really like Theo. And I would take Thielen ahead of Diggs, hands down. He is the number one guy for that team. I think in the drafts, they'll go pretty near each other. And I think, honestly, Adam Thielen will fall. He'll fall in the drafts. We've seen it for multiple years now where people just don't believe that he's going to get the job done. But if you look over the last two years, he's had five games without Diggs. And if you look at the splits with Diggs and without Diggs,

In PPR, it's 13.7 points versus 13.8. I mean, they're the same. This isn't Adam Thielen got the job done because Diggs was hobbled or banged up. Adam Thielen got the job done because he is great. We said this two years ago, Andy, when we watched and we were like, oh my gosh, this guy's catching everything. He's flying open. He's fast. He's big. He's, you know, he's so similar to Jory. Great when the play breaks down. Great.

you know, when you're finding a spot for the quarterback to find you when it plays breaking down. So do you agree with that assessment, Mike? Will you draft him over Dix? I don't know. Dix has not been able to stay healthy. That's the biggest caveat there. And that's the, I'm not sure he's more talented than Diggs. That's the thing that would have me lean towards Adam Thielen if they're very, very close. I mean, I don't want to hedge and say, I'll take the guy who's later, but Stefan Diggs.

Once he really got back from his injury, you're talking seven of the last eight games, including the playoffs, he had at least five receptions and touchdown in four straight games. Stefan Diggs, the move from, they moved Diggs to the outside and Adam Thielen into the slot for a majority of the snaps, which was, you know, towards the beginning of the season was a little bit concerning, but it worked out great for both wide receivers. I think that they should be valued.

very, very close to each other. What if it was Thielen in the fourth, Diggs and the fifth? Thielen. Well, say somebody's got a keeper decision that's... Right. Yeah, I mean, that's... Is that right on the line? Yeah, it's right on the line. I lean... So if they're both in the four, you'd be... Okay. See, yeah, I'll just throw this out. Because you're looking for the value there figuring that maybe this next year's Diggs year. Yeah, we know it's granted. Health is a huge concern.

for Stefan Diggs. Health was a massive concern for one Keenan Allen coming into this season. What I believe and know about Stefan Diggs, if he were to play 16 games at full strength, he will be dominant for fantasy football. He came back and he was healthy by week eight and he played essentially the second half of the season, weeks eight through 16, half of a season. If you were to give him a 16 game pace based on what he did the second half of the season, 73 receptions.

for 807 yards and seven touchdowns, which would be happy with that? For Diggs? Yeah. No, no, I wouldn't. Exactly. 800 yards, seven touchdowns, 73 receptions. That's not what I'm trying to get in that fourth or fifth round. I think of Adam Dillon. Well, what's Adam Thielen's eight through 16? Well, I was doing that because of Diggs health. I mean, Adam Thielen even on the season was just great. Yes, he certainly was, but I don't.

Man, I don't know. I lean with the talents of Diggs. I'll take my shot. There you go. Oh, I didn't know if you're going to drop a stat on me, Jay. If you're looking at 8 through 16 for... I wasn't looking at that. The nice thing is we don't need... We don't need to look at those. Well, no, there's an argument to be made that Biggs health and being on the field at the same time as Thielen, that would impact how Thielen played in the beginning part of the year when he was dominant, but Diggs was banged up. Sure. Eight...

I've got the answer for you. From 8 to 16, he would have had 85 receptions for 1,328 yards and 7 touchdown. So I'll take... I'll change my answer. I'll take that. Oh, wow, that was easy. Hey, before we grab this next shocking stat, we do want to thank Squarespace. Jason mentioned it to open the show. Squarespace is supporting today's podcast, and I'm going to tell you right now, look, as an entrepreneur...

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