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Week 8 Studs & Duds + Blackout Week, Monday Punday | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1833

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A blackout-week Monday Punday uses violent disappointment metaphors, overloaded backfield jokes, and Falcon celebration from Deucers Alley.

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Sorry to rehash that. James Cook, that worked. 216 yards James Cook doing his thing. Yeah, I mean, he was, he was awesome. Breece Hall was awesome as well. What, three touchdowns for Reese Hall? Yeah, in a passing touchdown. Yeah, I guess two rushing and a passing. It was a heck of a game for him. I mean, he had comments after the game where he said he went to the coaches and was like, basically, if Garrett's not here, I need 20 to 25 touches. He said, if we're going to lose, we got to go down on me. We got to go down swinging. And it was a smart decision because he is your by far best player. He looked so. Did you just hear yourself? No. Okay. Well, no, what I said. No, no, no, not you. Not you. Moving on. Okay. Oh, I can't. Oh, I can't wait to go back and look at that tape. Andy is very embarrassed right now.

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I imagine there were big eyes from Mike. I said at one point. Just keep talking. Go on. Gosh, you were saying stuff about players. You're saying something so smart, Jake. Keep going. I love that Jason thought he said something. Of course. That's where his mind is. Breece Hall has all season this year looked like the old Breece Hall fast explosive. He doesn't always get the opportunity to get the ball in space. You don't have a great offensive line. You don't have a great office. So it hasn't been wonderful every single week of the year. I still, I am hoping more and more and we've got about a week and a half for this to happen. I really want Bruce Hall moved. I really want him traded because he is awesome. And if you put him on a better team, like I have got Jonathan Taylor and I've been hoping that he hits the free agent market and can go sign a good team. Instead, it turns out the Colts brought a good team to him because the human being.

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in the right situation would be a top three back. It's always really hard to think about him. Like the teams that would want him are contenders. How do you give that guy the work that he gets in New York? And can you have that kind of success? I think you can have more success on a great offense. I would rather him have 15 touches for a great team than 25 touches for the Jets. I mean, I guess there's two teams. Like the Chargers and Chiefs would be two, right? Yeah. I don't. Bears. Bears. Yeah, I mean, that would get messy. But yeah. But I don't think they're trading at four and three for him. I don't know. No, no, I'm just, I was trying to think of a team you could actually go to. Teams at the top of the divisions. It's like, I think that those are, I mean, Chiefs and Chargers, I can see the path for him basically. Like if Amari and Hampton's injury is more severe and they're like, they know behind the scenes that he's probably not coming back, that one would work out for sure. Washington.

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Yeah, the commanders Washington would work too. That would be lovely. I guess that's a good point. I guess there's some homes. Did we mention Seekua-Barkley's huge game? We were about to. Okay. I just wanted, I didn't want to miss out on that. Because it was, it was awesome. We've been waiting, you know, so many weekly discussions of Barclay has not broken a big play yet, and we got two of them yesterday. 14 for 150 and a score, four for 24 and a score through the air. Probably a convenient bye week too. Oh, very much with the with the guy. Yeah. Yep. With the groin injury. Chase Brown 12 or 73 and one. Your start of the week, Mike. He looked good. And I know it was the Jets. Chase Brown looked good. And you know who else looked really good? Somaget P. Ryan. Yeah, he is working in. Nine for 94 and it touched it. I don't know what maybe it was just the uniforms against the grass against that defense. But like P. Ryan looked. P. Ryan looked.

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Fast. He did have some, he had some moves out there. I have a huge question about this next player. Yeah. And the question is, do you trade this? Trade away or trade four? Trade away. Yeah. RJ Harvey, seven for 46 and two, just seven opportunities and then caught one pass in the game for a touchdown. Very, very, very, like, Dobbins was great. Dobbins was 15 for 11. It's not it's like it was big plays if when I see a breakout coming for a rookie which this was you know a lot of people are saying this was the RJ Harvey breakout game obviously for fantasy football a monstrous productive game that if you had him in your lineup you thought you were gonna lose because you had RJ Harvey in your starting lineup and you probably won because he was awesome unless your team is as bad as Jeremy's in which case you can start him and lose um

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But the breakout can't come via fantasy points and touchdowns against a bad defense. The breakout has to come via opportunity for me to really buy in. This was no change in his opportunity. He played 27% of the snaps. This was still J.K. Dobbins's team. And he didn't get more opportunity. It was just he played against the Dallas Cowboys, which my goodness. Which we knew. How many times on Sunday did I say my favorite thing in the NFL is the Dallas Cowboys defense? They can't, they literally can't stop anyone from doing anything they want to do on any plate. It is delightful. Yeah, I mean, we said start of the week, basically all the players on Denver, yeah, 30% of the rushing are of the running back attempts and only eight total opportunities. I'm just saying, like, strategically speaking, this is your opportunity to trade RJ Harvey Harvey. Yeah.

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for something very, very good potentially. Maybe. People love a good rookie. You have to get something good because I agree that I'm not going to call this the true breakout game because of the work, but this is the type of game that can earn you more work. You probably were not relying on RJ Harvey as a starter, so you might be able to go and get someone on buy or someone injured. Or cross positionally. Yeah. I don't know if, I mean. I mean, would you trade him right now for Bruce Hall? Oh, yeah. If I could get Brees Hall, of course. Would you trade him for Kyron? That won't work. Yes, of course. Would you trade him for Derek Henry? Yes, of course. I can go down it too. Any of those. But Quinch on Judkins, who's injured and going on to buy, maybe that team needs a starter. You need a starter and you could. That's what you have to do. You have to find a very specific circumstance. You won't be able to just get whatever player you want. We should shine a light on how good Devon A-chan has been.

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Dude. He's been the RB 17 or better every week of the year. No other running back can say that now that McCaffrey and Bijon took the week off. Yeah. He's been awesome. Yeah, I mean, he has, he has been cooking. Javante got it done. Tage Spears. Tage Spears was so close to a two touchdown game. What was that growl? I'm, Javante cannot keep getting these goal line touchdowns. Oh, oh, I see. They are devastating. This is a seedy lamb, DAC. You grunted because. I mean, if you have Giovante, you were happy. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah. You just needed like a couple more points from your guys. Yeah. Was CD dragged down at the one? The two. The two. He was dragged down at the two and then. Oh, come on, man. You're not going to. It's more of a. Oh, good point. That's fair. Come on. That's fair. Yeah. And then DAC did get the, uh, the comical.

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quarterback sneak from the one yard line where he did like the alligator roll oh yeah he fell over yes he goes to quarterback sneak it kind of falls over to his right just rolls that was so funny I did not see that oh man it's it's just it's a dumb throwaway player where he's tried to QB sneak does not get in but somehow he just rolls over just another couple inches I could have won my week on uh Troy Franklin was the number one wide receiver on the week because Dallas yeah I mean Dallas is uh handing out candy for Halloween. I mean, it's wild. And Franklin is, I mean, this offense is capable of these performances from certain players because it's such a good offense. Mims has a week. Franklin has a week. Harvey has a week. Sometimes it's at the same time if you're playing Dallas. So what I like seeing was Pat Bryant. Let's get that guy going. He had a week. Yeah. I mean, dude, Dallas is so. And it's like. And they got, they got destroyed. One of Troy Franklin, Troy Franklin's touchdown in the back of the end zone.

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He's just standing. It's like, I could have caught that touchdown. There was no defender. It's like, Dallas sucks. Michael Pittman, number two on the week, Jalen Waddle. Michael Pittman deserves some conversation. This is wild. He has, but it's, yeah, the city is back. It was not something you couldn't see coming. If you take out the Anthony Richardson games and you look back the last three years, he's been good. The. Last majority of times, definitely a top 24 wide receiver. And he has continued, you know, being the number one wide receiver. It's like Alec Pierce down the field, Josh Downs has had some good games. But you've got a guy here that's, you know, he is the number one target and also that touchdown from Pittman. Mm-hmm. He, this is the first touchdown I've ever seen caught with a bicep.

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Biceps. Yes. I've never seen someone catch a ball. It helps when you have with your biceps before. You have tied your career high in touchdown receptions. The offense. This point already. The offense is cruising. I mean, that was one of the questions around Pittman to start the year was like, nobody saw this offensive explosion coming. And it was like, can you score enough. Well, Taylor can and Pittman can and Daniel Jones can. And this offense is just that good. So Michael Pittman is quietly. the number seven wide receiver on the season in total fantasy points. So he was the right pick on that offense at the wide receiver position. And Warren is there getting it done too. Jalen Waddle, 18.4 bounced back. I was, you know, people were wanting to like cut Jailen Waddle last week. Oh. That seemed dumb. Yeah, that's silly. I mean, you've got four games without Tyreek and he has been.

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great in three of them. Yeah, he's just, he is a player that, oh, waddles up on the jersey board there. He's the type of player where it's, it always feels fragile, where you get a couple of good games. And then the minute, like last week, you have the bad game. Okay, well, that was a fun run, but it's going to be more sustainable here. 19 targets for Jamar Chase, 12 for 91 on those, didn't score this week. Oh, home. Not efficient, but. 19 targets. Khalil Shakir had his second breakaway random touchdown game of the year, which that'll help. I mean, he had a monstrous, like, screen touchdown. Yeah, he'll have two, maybe three of those a season. How about Roman Wilson, four for 74 in a touchdown? I remember him. I really liked him as a prospect. Me too. They could use him to be good. Yeah, this was... They could use D.K. Mack have to be better.

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DK Metcalf feels like he is. Five for 55. He's like required to have 50 to 60 yards a week. Like he scored. And it's the score. So good fantasy week. But it's like. Did you play him or Zay? Oh, when the Lamar was out, then D.K. Metcalfe went in. But Zayflowers had more yards than D.K. Metcalfe. Do I really want to bring this news up? What is this real? It's real. I don't know if it's worth bringing up or not. I was just. Now you have to. Well, now I wonder. What's the news? It was just that Green Bay Packers first round wide receiver Matthew Golden deactivated his Instagram account after the game yesterday. Oh, no. Yeah. Get off the social. Did you see how open he was on that one? Yes. Oh, my gosh. I did. I mean, I saw it when they were just snapping the ball. I saw him coming across the middle. I go, this is going to be a fourth touchdown for love. I was very much wanting love to keep piling him up. He got missed on that one. Took him eight weeks, huh?

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Yeah, I mean, eight weeks and we already had to shut down the socials. Do we, we do that for targets? I don't know. Maybe he's only got three targets. Maybe he was some speculation that a lot of, he's getting a lot of pushback from fantasy manager. That's what I was going to say. I bet he's getting a lot of crap, which is that's disgusting. Do that. Hey, so I don't know if we've said it this year. Never tag a player. Unless it's something nice. Unless it's something nice. Sure. Don't never tag a player or something negative about your fantasy team. They, they don't care. They're trying. No, I mean, and Kiddle kind of summed it up in the kind.

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the most kind-hearted way last week, which was like, yeah, sorry to my fantasy coaches. Yeah. He's like, but look, they won the ball game. Blame Shanahan. Don't do that, people. Yeah. Be better. Kishon Booty, five targets. Three for 75 and one. He has. He's been good, man. They're big plays. And we talked about Drake May down the field. Dude, Drake, Drake, May, a deep ball from Drake May is, it's incredible. And it's matched up perfectly right now with with booty. Yeah. Uh, Roma Dune's eight, Jason's start of the week. Got it done. Seven for one, 14. Um, Tet McMillan seven for 99. Yeah. I had my Xavier regrets this week. And, uh, what about D.K? Second week in a row, eight targets for, uh, you're, you're not talking about Metcalf. No, no, no, no, the Titans. Sorry. Titans. D.K. Is it Shamir?

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Nobody knows. Camere, D.K. Last week had the big touchdown, but this week, seven for 93. Something to pay attention to. He was drafted ahead of Iowa Manor. Keep that in mind. Tight ends, Tucker Kraft, Dallas Goddard, got into the end zone again. Twice. Arronday Gadsden. Did you know his national tight ends week? I did know that. I was told many, many times. How many times it was brought up. Harold Fanon got into the end zone. George Kittle got into the end zone. You know, Goddard was 28 yards, right? Fanon had, he got wide open. He was your start of the week. That worked out. Tucker Kraft started the week. That worked out. And Goddard, you know, if he scores, you're really happy. You're not getting a lot more than that. But she has been doing it. And Mason Taylor also scored. So there you go. It was a pretty good catch. It was. Jumped up, Moster guy. Didn't have to break a tackle though. That was helpful. No.

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of high protein beverages at Starbucks or add protein to your favorite drink. It's, uh, it's Chimray. Is it? Chimray. Okay, we got to get that one. Chimray DK. That's how you remember it, because I knew the DK. Chimray DK. We got a rhyme going on? I guess. Okay. All right. Let's, uh, let's talk about some of these, you know, you talked about the week being wild and crazy and it was. Pooped in his big boy pants. Some of these pants were loaded up, man. They were loaded up. Double duty. Got filled this week. I mean, Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield, they won going away, and yet, like, it was like four fantasy points. I don't even know who scored. It was 15 for 20. I mean, it's the defense. Tess, yeah, did work. And Tess didn't score. No, but Tess was okay in the game, but I think he was the only one. Six fantasy points is, I mean, that's what I got out of. Baker.

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Baker again was, this is the second week in a row where it felt like he was not as accurate as he had been for the last year and a half. Did you see the missing? Yes. Some guys. I mean, he, he missed, uh, twice he missed, um, um, a Buka, yeah. Yeah, Bucca was like, if, last week, I think he caught four of 12 targets. This week he caught like three of nine targets, which. I went back and I wanted to see what the practice reports were like for Abuka this week because there's a lot of people speculating the hamstring still hurting him and he didn't practice Wednesday. He was limited on Thursday. He did practice in full Friday. Probably not quite himself. I mean, they took shots. I don't know if you saw this game, but they took, they got stopped on seven straight goal line opportunities. I was saving that for the Rashad White portion of this because it was.

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hilarious. Yeah, it was funny. It was, but it wasn't just him. It was he took two shots. Baker took two shots on the one yard line and both balls were horrible. Both should have been picked off by Kool-Aid McKinstree. No separation from Abuca on the second one. Weird to throw a fade to Sterling Shepherd on the first one. What was that decision? But Baker, yeah, this was. It was, oh, last time we were here, we gave the ball three times in a row to a shot wide up the middle, got stuffed. A fourth to Sean Tucker got stuffed. So we got to do something different. They're missing. They're missing Bucky Irving really bad. Yeah. Bucking Irving getting the play action game going. It's killing them. No Godwin, no Evans. So, I mean, they won, but now they go into the buy, and hopefully that means that there's a good time for Abuka to get healthy, right, with the hamstring recovery. And maybe Godwin comes back afterward. But they were not passing the ball. They didn't need to against New Orleans. And then Dak Prescott.

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Oh, Jason. It was not good. I said going into this week that the thing I was watching the most this week was how DAC can perform against a good defense because they do have a difficult strength of schedule going forward for the quarterback and wide receiver the passing game. And it started with Denver. And the way that he did not succeed was both comforting and really disheartening. The pass rush was a problem. The Broncos have a good pass rush, and they were in his face all the time. They were taking throws that, you know, he would usually make, and it was really a big problem for Dak, and I'm worried that when he faces other teams with good pass rushes, he's not going to get it done. On the other side, you had the two, again, goal line touchdowns from Giovante Williams. Sure. That stinks.

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Because it does say that going forward, if they get around the goal line, they will probably run the ball. And that's a shame as opposed to, you know, sometimes you've got those quarterbacks that they get around there and their go-to is the passing game still. It doesn't appear to be with DAC. However, when that happens and the touchdowns go on the ground, at least the offense scored enough. Like there were fantasy points to be had. If C.D. Lamb got two more yards on, you know, that pass, you would have had a different outlook. So I'm kind of. I'm nervous going forward. I'll try to give you some good news because next week is Arizona for... No pass rush. For the Cowboys by week. And then even if the second half is difficult, they're difficult game. So they're on the road in week 11 against Vegas. That's perfectly fine. Philling Kansas City are at home. Detroit is on the road, but then Minnesota and the charges are at home. So in that stretch...

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run of some difficult defenses there. At least you're home for a lot of them. Right. Against quarterback specifically, the three toughest matchups left after Denver is Philly, Kansas City, and the Chargers, and all three of those are at home. Well, there was some disappearing from our big time running back situations here. Bejohn 9 for 25. Christian McCaffrey, 8 for 25. If you told me 17 total opportunities on the ground for 50 total yards between those two this week. with the matchups that specifically Bijon has. Crazy. Camaro, useless this week. And he got, I think he got hurt too. Jordan Mason, we already saw that Thursday they were shut down. Rico Dowdell, he ran well. He just didn't get much work, didn't get any targets. I think Chuba scored. Chuba did score. Jordan Mason is worth noting like he's a, he's a bench now. He's a backup. He probably is a bench, yeah. Right off the bat, first game, Aaron Jones out snapped him.

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out carried him. He got the work ahead of him. The way the game looked, Jones was going to be involved. I feel like it was almost performance, too. They were like, hey, Jones is just running better. So we're going to keep you on the field. By the way, real quick break in here. D'Amico Ryan says he says, quote, I do not when asked if he has an update on Joe Mixing. So I know you guys probably forgot Joe Mixing exists. I did. They could probably use Joe Mixing. based on the way they're running the football. Rashad White, 13 for 35. And so many goal line carries. He had so many chances to score. Jalen Warren, it was okay. 13 for 62. I don't think that was too bad. Ramandre still got 74% of the snaps, but it was Cleveland and he did not perform 14 for 34. Henderson looked great in the running game. He performed fantastic. And then towards the end of the game, they get near the goal line. Yeah.

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Fumbles. How? How does this happen? Goodness gracious. I would have probably been more encouraged by his performance than even for 75. Than even RJ Harvey from a long-term perspective if that fumble doesn't happen because of the fact that they might give him more work because Ramandre is worse than Dobbins. So it's like there would be opportunity there. But as a huge disappointment, speaking of huge disappointments, got shut out on Thursday. We knew about that. Abuka, nine targets, three for 35. He, um, you know, you, you look at the targets, 12 and 9 in the last two weeks. You love it. But, you know, he also just missed another touchdown in this game. It's just not worked out the last couple weeks at all. They have the buy and then we'll see where they're out after that. A lot of people started darnel Mooney. Hey, I will personally apologize on Sunday live. We had a lot of darnel Mooney questions and.

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I was confident. I was confident that Mooney would have a good game. I went and checked every single one of my leagues just to see if Mooney was available. I tried to trade for him from Al this week. And he's like, I'm not giving you somebody to help you win. I would have started him 100%. I thought the way he had played last year with Kirk and the fact like Drake, Drake London. Oh, nice. Drake London is out. Darno Mooney has to be the number one guy for this. And he has the ability against Miami. It did not work. It was devastating. The question of Kirk Cousins, could he be better than Michael Pinnock's for this team? Could another team trade for Kirk Cousins? Nope. Nope. Nope. D-U-N. It is over. He looked so bad. Falcons just. What are you, man? Well, I said the Falcons, they put all that money into Kirk. They had the backup plan with Michael Pennix.

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It's possible both their plans are not going to work. Because Kirk looked terrible and Michael Pennix has not looked good. Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. Oh, I think you're not a Pennix fan? I think overall he has looked bad. Okay. Yeah, I've seen some flashers that make me slightly more encouraged than that. Okay. What do we think of Jake Ferguson? Dude. One target? Goose. One target? Man, I guess I would have to go back and check. I bet he was blocking a lot due to the Denver pass rush. He did block a lot of teams from victory this week. Yes. But he, with CD and George, his targets will be down. He still has touchdown opportunity every single week. But this was a bummer. It was a goose, man. Dalton Kincaid, he had an early catching this game. I was like, oh, they're back. This is the go-to guy. It was the only one he got. Yeah.

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Had a couple more targets, but no more catches. They didn't need to do much. I don't know where Josh Allen ended up. He might have been fine because of the rushing touchdown, but it was like, this is the James Cook show. It was. Hawkinson, just two for 26. Still in the top 10. Hey, T.J. Hawkinson, everyone, just stop it. Don't play. You don't have, you don't have to. You don't got to play. Jason and I made a trade of nothing for nothing. That is exactly what we did. That's the best kind of trade. A couple weeks ago, we traded like a Mason Taylor for.

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Hawkinson deal and... Well, no, I got a much worse defense that... Oh, you got the Steelers D. Yeah. That trade, we shouldn't have done that. I agree. Yeah, we should have just cut all the things connected to that trade. T.J. Hawkinson is pacing for 540 yards. Next time I'm going to cut somebody, Jason, and then you're going to cut somebody? I want us to trade first and then we cut the opposite person's... The Steelers defense sucks. They're bad. Yeah, they got me negative four in a league this week. I mean, I saw someone call them the shower curtain. Oh, instead of the steel curtain? Yeah. The shower curtain. That's not bad. And the funny thing is, is it's like they are paying a lot of money for that defense. Jalen Ramsey and Watt are two of the priciest defenders in the league. And they are not getting it done. Oh my gosh. That is crazy. All right.

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