Undrafted Gems + ALMOST Football Time! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/8

I mean, what would happen would be a complete deflation of everything you believe in for the Chargers. And maybe life. Yeah, I mean, it's all fun in games, but it can't happen. And that also means the Arizona Cardinals will be one game out of drafting Arch or Dante. Kyle said that the Chargers are the number one survivor pool pick right now for week one. Oh, don't do that. And he says he can't click it out of fear. The Chargers just completely disintegrating 92% of Survivor pools in week one.

I mean, do we want the comedy? Don't we just want to see the world burn? Sometimes. And I can see how the Cardinals can score on the Chargers. I just cannot see how the Cardinals can stop the Chargers offense ever. There's no defense. It's in L.A., right? It's in L.A. Oh, boy. Just saying it'd be funny. I assume it's the highest spread of the week. It's at 10.5. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Take you ever. Trayvion Henderson did not practice again Sunday or Monday. He has not practiced in suffering an ankle injury on August 24th. The bailout continues. For Jason. New England versus Seattle tomorrow. We're previewing that game. It doesn't seem like Trevo was going to be out there. No. No, certainly not. Speaking on Pat McAfee's show. I will say, I'm sorry. I guess we're covering the game. But it's like even if he plays, I'm not, I don't think you can start him. Adam Schuster said there's a real possibility that Pooka Nuku avoids any discipline this season.

Who said that? Shm Adam Schmifter. Thank you. See, you know what stinks is his last name, Mike? Normally when you try to re-pronounce, it's like Schmike-Schmerite. Like, certain names don't rhyme well. You need to come up with a different name for them. Are you giving it back? I'll lift the embargo. You got over it? No. Okay. But I will lift the embargo. What if I call him Adam Pelliserro? No. Pucanacoa might avoid discipline. It is still in the back of everyone's mind that drafts him.

that he could be something could happen his whole situation is going to be one of the most interesting ones to watch for the next few years how do you look at puka in a dynasty league because he could be the single best dynasty asset there's a world where that is he's top three or not

Dynasty-wise, I definitely think he's still top five. I know, Andy, you and I disagree on the contract. Like, I think he'll be a RAM long term. But let's say you're right. Oh, I don't think he won't. I just think that there's a chance. Yeah, there's a chance that they don't extend him that, you know, I mean, currently they haven't given him a contract. I think they're waiting to see if he's back on track. But let's say he, the Rams are out. And he hits the open market. Like, he's going to get the biggest contract of all time from some wide receiver needy team because he's a great.

young wide receiver so i i i don't worry about him uh outside of just being a knucklehead and i mean that that's a reason though i mean rashi rice i think you know one or two incidents removed is a different place in dynasty i i just makes me nervous that's all yeah puka can translate to other teams he's probably in the best spot he could ever be in though i mean oh yeah yes mcvain staff yes

Josh Jacobs' first court hearing has been moved up from November 17th to September 10th. This is a big deal. Convenient. Yeah, one of the things that's really frustrating is that people who respond to what we say on the show act like time isn't an element of what happens in the fact that like we said some things about the November 17th date, which had implications on how long he would be out. If they move the date up, two months.

that has implications on what will happen. And so I no longer stand by the same comments because the data has changed. Yeah. If things change and this is a brand new change, it matters. And the new impact is that it appears at first glance. And we don't know if this is going to go to trial, if it's going to be, you know, plead out. We don't know the future. But this does imply that because they moved it up, now that he's on the exempt list and he can't play football, they're trying to get the process completed.

quick enough so that his suspension can go soon and he can get back to football this season. As of this moment, my expectation is that the second half of the season, you're probably going to have Jacobs back on the field. We don't know. Yeah, I mean, just do the math. You're going to miss week one. You're going to have this hearing if they reach a settlement soon thereafter. Add six weeks, week eight, nine, ten. Maybe that's when you're seeing them back on the field. And there has been precedent in the past for...

games on the commissioner exempt list that are missed, essentially being credited towards, that's not a guarantee that it would. But the six games, let's say there's two weeks that he's already missed that, you know, it could just be the first six weeks. It could be six weeks out of after that. And there is a world where Marshall and Lloyd shows some stuff and the distribution of work changes when he returns and things like that. That is a, I think if you took Lloyd, I think that's a good takeaway of.

When you take Lloyd, you're betting. Is Marshawn Lloyd good in the NFL? We have no idea. We like the role. And the upside is massive if he is good. If he is, in fact, good over these next handful of games, I would imagine, I think Jacobs misses six at least because of the allegations. If Lloyd is good in those six weeks, he will be a part of the team moving forward. Josh Jacobs won't come back and just completely dominate the...

The running back room, Lloyd will be involved. Malik Neighbors. ESPN says it looks like he's good to go for Sunday night. That's what we're talking about. The team released the very expensive Darius Slayton, who was going to be owed $13 million. Dude. Which is a good sign for neighbors and a good sign for Malachi Fields and a good sign for Isaiah Eichly. They hate him. They hate him. How that's the week that the season is starting. You're like, ooh, time to save some cash. Like that is

so dirty to this player. Like, if you had caught him when you, you wanted to get rid of him forever ago, let him go find a different team. I mean, I don't know why they hate him. Because you can't. This has to be, this has to be like a personal thing that they just don't like him. But they also like, they also paid him a three year 36 million dollars. They had to. Yeah, they've always been backed into having to rely on Slayton. Who has been fine? He's the longest.

tenured New York Giant. Was. Because the week before the season, they sent him packing. James Winston, two-year extension. So if Jackson Dark keeps running like a chicken with his head cut off, Winston is there to help. And that is a good thing. Yeah, we love it. Breece Hall, training towards playing week one with the groin injury. That's good. That'd be a really nice thing to be able to do his play if you just drafted him. And then what do we have? We have Tyler Smith, left guard for the Cowboys.

thumb surgery, sideline, four to six weeks. Yeah. Weekends that offensive line. Let's take a break. We'll jump into some undrafted gyms. WaiverWire, presented by T-Mobile. All right, it is the waiver wire. The first time and only time we'll be doing this segment before the season begins, because we always want to talk about some post-draft options on the waivers. Sometimes you wake up and you look at your draft and you go, hmm, hmm, I don't know if I.

I don't know if I like that guy on the end of my bench there. Maybe there's a different, better option. So we want to look at some players that you should pay attention to. Maybe it means picking them up now. Maybe it means keeping an eye on them. Right. There's a lot of different ways to go about it. We'll obviously have waiver wire segments each and every Tuesday during the season to talk through the best pickups of the week. And so, you know, I thought one interesting thing, like I was really working through my headspace. Maybe you guys can help by consulting for me.

I'm in the draft. I have a pretty good team. My team's all right. Yeah. Everybody online was like, so you play in a four team league? No, it's 12 team. Yeah, but it's a keeper and you were set up from last year. Yeah. So I am thinking to myself, how much am I truly going to value the insurance backs for the players that I have on this roster that right now looks really good? But we've done all the numbers. Injuries are...

you know, 24% of running backs, top 24 running backs make it through 17 weeks. You're going to have injuries. But I also know it just sucks to have an insurance back on your roster in week one. It doesn't suck in week 5, 6, 7, even later on, maybe late at end of season. It just sucks in the beginning because I want to be pulling different players off of the waiver wire. If I draft an insurance back, I feel like I got to hold them for an injury and then I get impatient and I'd rather be playing around with, you know, rookies and things like that. So, you know, I...

I think it depends on who the insurance back is. In the situation of guys like Blake Corum, Jonathan Brooks, and Chris Rodriguez Crodd, you still have the opportunity where week one you learn something and that they are involved and that they are a startable, flexible asset that still has the insurance upside of going higher. There's others that, you know, are just like.

Kyle Minungai would just be, he's not going to usurp the number one role on the team or be so involved. Look, I like Swift, but I like Menongai as a flex with benefit player. I don't think he's just a pure insurance running back. Coram Brooks, Menongai, Crod for sure, possibly Algeria based on workload for love. Yeah, at least the first few weeks. All those guys should get weekly touches no matter what. Right. Not just, not the like, you know.

pure backup situation. Gainwell's probably in that category too. No, Bucky. It's all Bucky now. Oh my gosh. Don't you don't you do it to me again, kidding? I'm not sure if we checked the tape and Kyle probably has some AI doing it every minute. I'm not sure if we checked the tape if you had said Bucky Irving's name more than three times in the last year. And there he was on your team. Yeah.

And you were playing that one close to the best. Yeah. I couldn't let people know. Even Jason didn't know how much he loved. I was hiding it from myself until he was the last of a tear. I had to take him and went, he's going to be great. That is, it's so fantasy football. When that name popped up, it was like, what? Me too. And then followed by Blake Corum? Who is this guy?

A desperate man on draft day. A man who is inventing his strategy. Jason got thrown off from the jump yesterday. This was a real issue. Because so our team, we are not good. Yeah. I mean, so we went all in last year to go after the championship. At the time, it looked like it was like Mike and I. Which all in in the league of record for the newesters is you trade. A lot of future picks. And you like you move them.

down. Yeah. So I had basically no picks coming into this year because of last year. Then I lost my high equity pick. My gamble of Jonathan Taylor in the lottery. That stunk. And then my pick spot, there's six studs in this draft and I got the seventh pick. So I went into this year going like I am playing for next year. I traded C.D. Lamb for Malik neighbors when it looked like he wasn't going to play.

the beginning of this year because I figure 2027. So I'm like going for 2027. Me and my co-manager, we are setting this up trying to do what Andy did this year and how he arrived at this, you know, great super team. And then right at the draft, we're like, okay, do we want to vote on anything? And the league changes the rules on the number one pick to make it a lot, like a playoff system for the bottom four teams. And you've got to win to get the best picks. And I look, I would prevent what you're doing. Absolutely.

I would vote for this any other year. It's a good, it's a good thing for a league. But I came in already. Like, I'm already in this strategy. It's not fair. So I was, I was like, come on, man. It was such a, I mean, 10 minutes before the draft, you're changing this? I've been working this strat for a month. Jason spent the rest of the four hours during the draft.

restraining himself from beating up the co-manager that suggested it which co-manager is yeah also I can tell you a lot about the week 15 schedule I got to prep I got to win that week that is amazing what about some so so when you look at those guys those are all I think high-end insurance back standalone value maybe that maybe the giants are in the picture there with scataboo

whether it's nausea or Tracy at some point. Now, what I had a problem with was just deciding on like, let me just give you my scenario. Okay. I have Kenneth Walker, who is not always healthy. So Emmett Johnson to me, I think that was one where like, because he's a rookie, because he's young, I wanted to take him. And you loved his tape. And I loved his tape. And I, and he's obviously earned that backup role. So to me, it's like that one, I think I wouldn't even feel bad having on my team. The other one was Devon A. Chan.

And, you know, Ali Gordon is who I preferred in that situation because, in my opinion, of A. Chan leaves. You know how sometimes the depth chart doesn't reflect what happens. Correct. When a player goes out, a different back ends up taking over. Like Keaton Mitchell's the two. But Comani Vidal would have a tremendous amount more value probably if Hampton's down. And like Denver, Jonah Coleman, if J.K. Dobbins, yes, if we're going to hold on to if for J.K. Dobbins.