Fantasy Football - Unsolved Mysteries + TNF Preview, Top 5 Surprises - Podcast for 9/17

Looks like they're able to run the ball just fine. So bad defense. Still bad defense. Still a good offense. Yep. And, and, you know, I'm in. However, obviously, he's not going to have, you know, touchdowns every single week, be the running back four every week. We've brought up the center that is now going to be gone for six weeks. That will hurt him. The upcoming schedule is also a little bit rough. So, I mean, I will say this. I looked at rankings coming into the week and where Giovante was kind of, default. He's way too low. I see Giovante as a top 15 weekly start. He should be started going forward. The last unsolved mystery is the Eagles passing offense doomed through two weeks. Philadelphia is dead last in pass rate. Jalen Hurts is thrown for 152 and 101 in two victories. They are one of four teams in the last 10 years to start 2 and 0 with under 250 total yards in two games.

in the passing offense. It's insane. And by the way, like two of those four were Justin Fields for the Steelers and the Bears. And then one was Caleb Williams last year. And so all the targets in the entire offense have been short. Mike Renner had tweeted, I mentioned earlier in the week, only two completions of 10 plus air yards. AJ Brown, you could have started a random wide receiver on any team and gotten better production in the first two weeks. Yeah. Wide receiver 172. That's, sorry, 100. The next week, wide receiver 72. So it's going up. 172. Yes. How many wide receivers are there? So, you know, the target share jumped. It was all about no targets in the first matchup pretty much. But, you know, it's not downfield stuff. 25% of his routes are slants. That's the highest among all wide receivers. That's not high value. If you have low volume and then your actual receptions are slant routes.

You know, he's not going to break away like an old school OBJ. So it is concerning to me. We have what we want and hope for from Devante Smith and A.J. Brown, and it can certainly turn around. But we also have now a pretty long track record, a new offensive coordinator. And unfortunately for everybody out there, victories. And by the way, the only news I saw from the offense this past week was their offensive coordinator coming out and saying, don't worry. We're going to run more designed runs for Jalen Hertz. That's the comment. Oh, it's probably smart. I was a little worried. So I should not? Not for that. Okay. No, I mean, Jalen Hertz was also really disappointing a week this past week. But are you, you know, to me, is it doomed? Doomed is too strong a word for me? Is it going to be a bumpy ride? That's where I'll say yes. Where is your worry meter from 1 to 10, 10 being worried?

worried meaning what for my fun like for my fantasy team if you're not like he's going to bust yeah feeling like yeah oh wait 10 is the bad one yeah oh okay um 10 is worried i would say somewhere in the seven range okay so that's so your majority worry are you would you consider unloading because a yeah i would trade a j brown 80 brown still has he would be he would be an absolute trade for me yeah yeah i would here's what i would do i would try to trade a j brown and somebody that you don't believe in long term to go get J.S.N. I doubt you're going to get that done. That's the kind of, I mean, because J.S.N. went way, way behind AJ Brown in drafts. You could pick a different name. I mean, somebody else that's... I'll try and find some... Find somebody else that's not J.S.N., but I do think that I don't have a horse in the race. I don't have AJ Brown on the roster. I don't have Devante Smith on a roster. I do think that there are going to be some really good games coming. There have to be. But their defense...

Sequan Barkley, a year of, like last year, everyone was like, oh my gosh, they have to do something different. We can't have another year like last year. And they were right. It's worse. Yeah, you thought you were at the bottom. What's your number? I'm worried. I've put myself at about a six. Jason, what's your number? Yeah, Jason, you got A.J. Brown. So I'm just trying, I'm trying to get a deal done. He's trying to send trade offers out real quick before we talk about it on the show. Yeah, because Papa Josh and Matt have Drake London. I'm trying to, trying to get that trade. I was trying to get. All right. Let's make it happen. I know that Falcon has no one. I offered that other league to worry about it. I offered AJ Brown and Kishon Booty. Oh, God. For Drake London. You're the one who loves booty. No one else loves booty. Okay, whatever. You want us to reject it right now or wait a little bit?

I wanted to- Booty. Well, it was just, I would you- I mean, even straight up, maybe people are worried and they want AJ Brown, but my point is, um, they're not doing that trying to, of course they're not going to do that. I was trying to get it done before we got to this segment because, um, I'm super worried. I'm like, I'm okay. So what's your number? An eight. Okay. I mean, so when we were that someone had talked about like, AJ Brown for a Bucca, you would now probably do that? Man, I tell you what, I still don't think I would. When I'm really, really worried, it doesn't take away the fact that A.J. Brown will have monster weak winning performances. That will happen. He hasn't aged out. I don't think there is a problem here. In talent, Jalen Hertz and A.J. Brown, we have seen them be dominant forever. But the issue is what they are willing to do in probably 60% of their games,

I got a quote from AJ Brown two hours ago. Oh, great. You want it? You tell me if I want it. I haven't read it yet. Quote, the goal is to win the game no matter what it looks like. No, I don't want it. I don't want it. Reject the quote. No, I want a diva wide receiver that says, yeah, I'm happy we won, but you know, I can do more. I got something better for you. All right. All right. In 2023 through two weeks, he was a total of 11 for 101. Yes. I did. Weeks three through 17, he was.

94 for 1339 and 7. Yeah. Okay, that's your good side. That is the absolute hope. Now, currently he's on pace for 300 yards on the year. My, yeah, and obviously that's not going to happen. All wide receivers. In fact, including AJ Brown, we have seen him disappear many times in the past and still finish as a top 10. wide receiver on those seasons. That can still happen. My biggest worry is that the changing of going from Kellynne Moore to this new office of coordinator coincides with what we saw week one with Dallas Goddard. Dallas Goddard was just getting these little tiny, easy, worthless for fantasy targets. Goddard got injured, went out, and then all of a sudden eight targets for AJ Brown last week. That's great.

but they were all those same tiny worthless targets. Six and a half. You're going down. Okay. All right. Cooling off. Cool me off, man. Six and a half. I got, let me give you some names and you just. Let's see if we can get Andy to five. Do you prefer A.J. Brown or this other player. It's a great terrible game. I don't like it. We're going to start at the top traits that I, you probably can't get done, but we're going to throw other names out anyways. Drake line. No, Zay Flowers. Oh. I would rather have AJ. Flowers. I would rather have AJ Brown. Okay. Okay. So maybe that deal. No, I said I would rather have AJ Brown. Okay. So, all right. Let's go. Jason, you can't get Devante Adams. I'd rather have AJ Brown. I'd rather have AJ Brown. Mike, are you on the opposite of both of those? I don't. I honestly don't know. I am the host right now. I knew you're going to say that.

I've seen someone take that stance. Garrett Wilson. Oh, that's a good one. That one's good. Because I think the volume is definitely going to be on the Garrett side. Yes, it will. Injury. I think I like that. Can I host? No, no, no. I'm the captain. Man, that is really tough. I think I would rather have Garrett Wilson. Okay. And last one, Ted Roe McMillan. Ted easy. Oh, okay. Oh, I'm going to go try to trade that. That one you might be able to get through because he hasn't. That's a good trade. He hasn't blown up. He's done very, very well. Jason's done for the rest of the show. Yeah. See you later. He's got one goal. Devante Smith, by the way, wide receiver 80 and 53. So it's not good for him either. And, you know, do you go try to pick up Devante Smith? He's a lot cheaper. I would not. Okay. All right.

I'm not fire selling Devont or Smith, but I wouldn't actively go get it. The other biggest questions people are dealing with, they don't need answers necessarily, but DK Metcalf is the every week started. The yardage numbers have been low. What do you do with Chase Brown, the Chicago pass catchers, Seattle Seahawks backfield? And then the Starvin Harrison Jr. will ever get more targets? Is it his fault? Is it Kyler's fault? That one I think Mike can speak out briefly. I can. You've talked about it on the Dynasty show, but I would like to know you went back and watched all the film. You kept.

randomly exclaiming, man, Kyler sucks. But go on. I mean, I talk about it at length in this week's Dynasty Pod that dropped today. The TLDR is I have some pretty strong concerns of they're using him. They're not getting him anything easy. He had a couple opportunities where just the dog meter looked very, very low of a player who's not willing to fight for it. And then the, like I said, all these deep routes and they're running some deep posts. And the times where it looks like there's a window over the linebacker in between the backer and the safety, Kyler just won't take it. So I have concerns that it might just be last year slightly better. Okay. All right. Well, we have Thursday night game to get to. Let's do it right now. Thursday night breakdown.

Would you trade A.J. Brown for Rome, Adunze? I'm sure you would. Sure I would. I bet you would. That one is very scary. I saw it come through in Slack and I didn't want to answer. So I'm not taking any more questions. He is now hosting. All right, Thursday night. Oh, boy, Miami. You're o' and two, and you get to go to Buffalo on Thursday night and play the bills. The Vegas line, Buffalo minus 12 and a half. Twelve and a half. The overrunner is 49 and a half. I'm taking the... bills yeah the 12 plus point favorites have won 89% of the time in the last decade buffalo is 12 and 1 as 12 point favorites there have been some injuries to the defensive side of the football for buffalo i think two major ones announced this morning if somebody wants to vet that for me and let me know those names again i think one is uh what is it matt milano and i think one more name

So you can, somebody find that. But Miami gets to try to add Oliver, was it? Yeah, yeah. They get to try to figure things out. I think Mike McDaniel said something about to win the game. You got to win it and not lose it. That seems that seems like you're on. That dude is done. He's out. It went from endearing to sad. This was talked about when I remember years ago. all these little conferences with this cute little quips. People then were saying this is really nice right now while things are good, but this act will not hold up at all or be tolerated when teams are... Yeah, the foot monster says the same thing. Teams are losing. It's like you just can't, you can't be smarmy and like that, you know, when things are going bad. Yeah, sarcasm is you got to know when to use it.

All right, Josh Allen in his career, if it helps the equation, they've destroyed the dolphins, 12 and 2, never lost at home against them. It's really, really hard to see this game going different than the way it looks in the Vegas line. Josh Allen, you play him. James Cook has been incredible. You play him. Will they need to use Keon Coleman? I mean, right now, Shakir and Kincaid are completely unstartable. Keon Coleman is the only one with this like. He's like maybe we are excited about it. The defensive injuries, maybe you could get more of a, you know, more opportunity for Miami to put some points up. Miami did not look as bad at all last week. They are also the highest pass rate in the entire national football league. So A. Chan, he's getting so many targets. Tyreek last week, he got it done. Jalen Waddle, same story. Not surprising he's limited twice this week with a shoulder injury.

And of course, Darren Waller's just in Miami for the vibes. He's not playing. It's ramping up. I mean, it's not a very complicated fantasy matchup. It's just, do we get more excitement in this game? And we know that, you know, Buffalo can win the game without Josh Allen, too. Last week, 11 fantasy points for Josh Allen after a 50-point week, they didn't need him. He wasn't playing Baltimore. They just manhandled the Jets, and James Cook went crazy. Yeah, it took a, it took a kind of like an all-timer run. from James Cook where it turned into whatever it was the 40 or 50 yard touchdown. So I think it's, yeah, this is an easy game of the people that you, that you play, you're going to play. Keon Coleman, I guess, is really just the hardest decision. Are you where the snaps went down? Io Manor or Keon Coleman? Ooh. If you're at the bottom of the barrel, double flex, I'd still go with Coleman. I would as well. Okay.

All right. I mean, it's not, like I said. He's going to get us with an Iommanner question one of these weeks, Jay. And we're going to have to say Iommanner. No, and the thing is, is I really want it said. I own manner looks great. He looks like a very, very good rookie wide receiver who is on the field. I believe in the talent. I'm very anti what I've seen out of Cam Ward so far. I like Cam Ward, man. I like the guy too. No, I think he's a good, I think he, you think about the scale of rookie quarterbacks and how they play to start the year. I don't think it's been, he's not been at the bottom end of that. He's had two tough matchups. I agree. He's had two tough matchups. And I think he's held up okay. I mean, it's, man, he's completed 43% of his passes, 58% of his passes, hasn't hit 200 yards. No, that, all of that is fair. And I think the thing with, the thing with Iommanner is not, you know, we're not having the conversation about.

It's not the Ridley conversation where it's like, okay, statistically, it's very, very difficult for a rookie quarterback to hold up a wide receiver one and give you those monster numbers if they're not named Steve Smith, right? We've looked at those numbers. Iron Manor, we're just talking about a flex play. Sure. Can you get a flex play at some point during the year? We do have an interesting. We have an interesting flex question that Matt put into the chat, but I'm going to make him read it on the microphone. Oh, my God. What's your question? Oh. henderson or coleman in my flex okay there we're on or key he just he held it to like three words nice the land very good so and he had to have it written out trevo yeah that was also part of the help trevo or keon coleman in your flex that is a fascinating question i think because i'm hosting i won't answer that one i i would go keon coleman at this moment i would go keon coleman i expect

great things from Trayvion Henderson as the season opens up and progresses. It could happen as early as this week. I might go Trayvon. But with the. I'd play Trayvion against the Pittsburgh Steelers. With the, I forgot the match. Oh, Ramandre's going to cook. Yeah. Oh, I need him so bad this week. Yeah. I believe at one point in last week and I said something like I'd start a retired player over Ramandre. I think I said that on the show. Whoops. And I mean, look, all it took were, was three egregious holding penalties. Yeah, by Trayvion. Uh-huh. Breaking news. We did get update that Jaden Daniels, while he's had a good rehab session, he's not going to practice until Friday at the earliest. And so Marcus Mariotta could very well be starting for the commanders. So the week. Yucky butts. The week. Mario has played. Okay. I'm trying to, when did we see him? You saw him at length in week seven last year.

against Carolina. And he played well. 202. Is he playing against Carolina again? I don't think so. It would not make me feel, I mean, Terry McLaren right now, if there's not an unsolved mystery about him, I'd be worried about Terry McLaren in general. That one feels solved. That feels solved. I mean, Debo gets short area targets from Ariotta. That won't be a worry. He'll also probably get carries. Do not love the holdouts. No. Do not love the holdouts. He loves it because he got a lot of money. Yeah, no, he did what he had to. It's Washington's fault. Like you, this was your leader. Yeah. And you're looking at you paid him anyways. Imagine your team this year without him. Then you go full stop. Okay, let's figure it out. Just get him on the practice field. It's ridiculous. Yeah. All right. We'll take a break. We'll jump into some mailbag. This episode is brought to you by NFL Sunday ticket on YouTube TV. This season, make sure to subscribe to NFL Sunday ticket and YouTube TV where you will get every game every Sunday.

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I was wondering, should I start Draveon Henderson or Zach Charbonnet and a full PPR leave? Thanks. Love the show. Great show. Bye. I can't get over the fact that we are now, we have two different Hennessees playing football. We've got Derek Hennessey and now we got Trayvon Hennessey. Beautiful. So full PPR start Trevo Henderson against Pitt or Zach Charbonnet against the Saints. Oh, boy. It's a perfect matchup for. Charbonnet, the style of play, the up and the... Yeah, I think if you are... No targets so far on week one or two for Charbonnet. Yeah, that's a tough. Seahawks are heavy favorites at home. I lean Charbonnet and if you're saying, you know, no context to my matchup, do I need a ceiling play? If I was a heavy underdog, I'm probably not playing Charbonne. I'll probably try Trayvion and hope I catch, you know, you get a screen pass for 67 yards and a touchdown.

But otherwise, I think Charbonnet is a safer play. I... Jason looks like he doesn't want to answer that one either. I just want to hear what Mike has to say. It's a really, really tough question. If I had them both... Oh, he was so bad. He was so bad. And what's ironic is we're talking about... Oh, Charbonnet. We're talking about... Trayvion was so bad, too. Well, Henderson just didn't get to play. That's a bad thing. Yeah, I agree. Ironically, we're talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers match up and how they have not been good against the run and they haven't. But that was who, you know, not just Kenneth Walker played them last week. Sharpenet played, yeah, yeah. Against the Steelers last week when he went 15 carries for 10 yards. It's very impressive. Coach said, yeah, no, he said he played good football. Play good football. I think he played good football the week before. That's for sure. I think I'll play Sharbs.

rest of season question from colby in texas knowing aaron jones and burrow are now out who scores more points jordan mason or chase brown rest of season so erin jones out it's still going to be it's still going to be chase brown um i think that's a pretty easy erin jones for me simply because you mean jordan wait erin jones it's a chase brown a very simple chase brown for me um you made it very not simple yes i did the Total weapons there, I think, are better. We've seen Jake Browning be able to move the ball. You've got Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. And you should. We don't know for sure with Browning if Chase Brown will be involved in the passing game. But we know he usually is involved in the passing game. Jordan Mason has never in his career been involved in the passing game. And I don't expect that to change. With Aaron Jones out, they did sign Cam Acres to the practice squad. He was part of the team last year.

I don't think that's Jordan Mason. Who has more receptions through two weeks? Chase Brown or Jordan Mason? Yeah, I was going to say it's been, I'm looking at the Chase Brown numbers right now. You would only ask that if it was Jordan Mason, but I'm still going to go Chase Brown. It is, but it's, but it is. Chase Brown has two, two for eight, two for 18 and his yards per attempt are two and two point nine through two weeks. It's been bad. The snap counts have been great though. It's just funny of Jordan Mason has caught three passes, but he, it's.

It's not fantastic. I'm still going to take Chase Brown, but over the short term, I would take Jordan Mason for these next couple weeks. Yo, yo, yo, bowlers. Jimmy from California, my question for you all is, do I play Kyler Murray this week or Jordan Love? Thanks. Love the show. Kyler at San Francisco and you have Jordan Love at Cleveland. I want a chance at a big play. And to me, Jordan Love is a big play. Kyla Murray is annoying. He's very, very, very annoying. And guess who's starting him this week in our League of Record? I am. Oh, no. I'm so sorry. Yeah. You know who tried really hard not to last week and played Justin Fields like a dummy? I will do anything. I will do almost anything to not play Kyler. I just, but I'm going to play him this week. Jordan. I don't have Jordan Love. The Cleveland Browns on the road, I mean, that is the scary matchup. I think it's it's scarier for Jacobs as the Cleveland Browns

front has shut down, you know, the running game two years or two weeks in a row. Jordan Love, the way that they are playing, he looks like he's back. Like this looks like Jordan Love from two years ago where there, I mean, at least I could, just for myself, last year I was very excited for Jordan Love. Then he got hurt in week one and then got hurt again. And it just, it never came through. He's healthy right now. And I think that Jordan Love, Jordan Love can work his way in. in the next couple weeks. People won't even ask these questions. It'll just be, oh, I have Jordan Love, so that's my starter. And that's how I would treat him this week, especially over Kyler. Ian in Florida, should I trade Chase Brown, Jason, for Brees Hall? I think that's a really good question. I think so. I think Brice had a down week this last week. The whole Jets team did, but he still had some runs that showed that juice that we saw in week one.

with the Joe Burrow injury. I think I'm on the brief side. Mike, Liam wants to know he's from Massachusetts. Is it worth trying to trade T. Higgins for Xavier Worthy? T. Higgins for, no, I would keep T. Higgins. Okay, I guess that's probably a Browning reaction. Ryan in Canton, Ohio, hey guys, I'm starting Caleb Williams this week after losing Burrow. Would you start a DUNZE for the stack over Garrett Wilson or D.K. Metcalf? I would start him over Metcalf. the way that they look the past two weeks with Metcalf like Metcalf has been weird. Metcalf has been Metcalf and I got hoodwinked. Oh, are you going to do this? Of course I will. Of course I will. I drafted him. So he was four for 83. When he's great, I will love him. And when he's disappointed, I will go back and continue to not like him. Some pays for 110 targets, not quite as high as we'd hope. He had three for 20 last week. But the.