Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Risers and Fallers, Preseason Week 2, News, Mailbag

I think it helps Eddie Lacey, too. You know, he was almost my guy that I was going to talk about. He looked so good in that game. He just looked exactly why I've got him as my number two running back. Yeah, you can't take him off the field because you need weapons on the field. I agree with the Cobb comment. I do take, I think because Lacey goes up, Rogers goes down a little bit for me. He doesn't take him out of that top tier, but it made me think a little bit about, well, would I rather have luck in those weapons than I would Rogers. So I'm looking at the numbers right now.

of a split Aaron Rogers' career with and without Jordy Nelson, there's a one-point difference. Yeah, well, again, I mean, that would be like, I don't know how much I'd apply that or not. So Green Bay has a history of finding weapons, especially wide receivers. So if one of these guys, if we talk Montgomery, Janice, somebody's going to step up. Adams, and.

We're talking draft. Let's talk draft right now. Yeah, where are you drafting Devante Adams? That's the question I had. And that's the question people want to know because they'll be like, oh, I've got to jump in on this hot receiver that nobody wants. But where do they jump in at? I look for him in the fifth. He jumps up to a wide receiver too, to me automatically. So he's in that. Devante Adams or Roddy White? Adams. Adams. Adams. Adams. Adams. Adams. Adams.

Adams for sure. Devante Adam or John Brown? Adams. Okay. It's, so he's in the mix of those two. I'm looking in the fifth. Devante Adams or T.J. Hushmanzada. Ooh. It would not surprise me if you're going to, I miss him. Oh, I got a good one. Devante Adams or Martavis Bryant. That's a very good one. And I would take Adams. Yeah, me too. I think right now you've got a number, I mean, he.

He's going to be the second guy there, right? I mean, there's no way Jeff Janice will overtake Devante Adams. Janice had a bad drop. He's new. Adams is the second guy guaranteed. The talk about Janice or Montgomery or whoever else, Reggie Wayne is who's in there on three wide receiver seconds. Exactly. So I like Adam. I start looking in the fourth, but I'd rather get him in the fifth and be careful because people are going to start reaching. All right. Oh, I saw some trades that were.

Too much. You're giving up. To get Adams? Yeah, I saw it too. A little bit too much too quick. Don't overreact. Settled down. All right. The Jaguars, they said T.J. Eldon will begin to work with the first team offense. I actually moved Yeldon down a little bit. I watched the Jags game. Denard Robinson looks fine. I mean, he had games last year where he looked fine. Gerhardt looked fine, too. It's just a matter of workload, and they'll probably not give Yeldon the workload until the second after the year.

at a high clip. I'm going to be really interested to watch because the news is that he's going to get a heavy workload next week, right? I mean, that's what they're saying, is they're going to give him a lot of usage. And that's going to be one of the most important games because T.J. Yeldon, for some reason, has just been assumed he's going to be a three-down workhorse, have the whole workload. And I have never really believed that as much as the reports are. But we're going to see how good he is. But I agree with you. Dernard Robinson looked good enough to where...

I don't see him getting the, I don't see Yeldin getting, you know, all the touches. All right. Out of Steelers camp, very bad news for the Steelers, Marquise Pouncey's injury. A fractured fibula. He has gone eight plus weeks. And what kind of impact? It's, he's not a superstar center, but he's a great overall alignment and he can move positions. I think it has an effect on the running game.

We've talked a lot about centers. Do I drop Bell? No. But it's possible that Bell is not light years ahead, so to speak, of everybody else now. All right. To confirm what we knew, Bears' first round pick, Kevin White underwent surgery on Sunday to repair the stress fracture in his left shin. We knew that this is probably a year-ending injury.

And so that's the case, but too bad. Too bad when you don't get to see a guy with immense talent come out, and he's going to have to come out next year, and he'll probably be, everyone will be wondering what kind of fantasy year he can put up after an injury like that. Eddie Royal, with cheese. Eddie Royal. Yeah, that offense, watching that game, meh. Yeah, but there's fantasy points to be had. No doubt. No doubt. We like Eddie Royal. Roddy White had surgery on his right elbow.

which means he's got only one more left for his quote of this off season. I think he only has one more elbow. No, the surgery is called Minor. They think he'll be back for opening day, but I don't like it. Yeah, and this is... Things linger with Roddy White. This is a guy we're going to talk a little in our risers. It's an alert for Leonard Hankerson because if we remember what happened whenever Julio...

Or Roddy went down. Harry Douglas was a beast. Exactly. Someone comes in and has production. People don't. I tweeted about Litter and Hankerson about a week ago as a sleeper in deeper leagues before any of this Roddy news. But the number three wide receiver has value there. Leonard Hankerson was a Shanahan guy in Washington. True. So they brought him over and now he scored a touchdown in this past game. So yeah, we'll talk more about him. Did you have something, Jay? I was just going to say he's free. You can get him on waivers if your draft is done.

And then ESPN Titans reporter said David Cobb. He thought David Cobb would have more carries than Sankey, but Sankey played very well. He looked very good when the holes were open for him. He ran through them much quicker than last year and burst. But when the holes weren't open, when he had to fight for yards, he just seems a little too small to me to really get those good yards. So I think it's going to end up being a split, but Sankey was on my risers list for sure.

Okay, well, let's start talking a little bit about what we saw in preseason week two and which guys over the course of camp and this offseason were moving up because we've talked about Devante Adams. He has to go up your board now, obviously. Jordy Nelson's out. Who else stood out in big ways? Because I've got a few names that I saw that I thought my opinion was changing on. But who's standing out for you, Mike? Who's been somebody who you doubted and now you're really rising on? Brandon Cooks.

I'll repeat it again. The concern for Brandon Cooks was never, for me, was never talent, was just looking at usage of last year how there was a dramatic shift halfway. We've got a lot of heat over Brandon Cook rankings. Yeah, and everything was halfway through the year. They completely switched his role and they went to Sean Jackson with him. So I was concerned about reliability week to week. But if they're going to use him the way they're using him in the preseason, man, he looks.

He looks very solid, and they're getting him plenty of bubble screens and just getting the ball in his hands like they were doing the first half of last season. You know who stood out to me? You sound very disappointed with this. No, no, no. That was the sigh of moving on, apparently. Or was that a dramatic pause? Well, Drew, well, Drew Breeze.

He looked really good, and I've been down on him. I spoke down of you, Mr. Drew. But he did. Didn't you make me a Drew Breeze, Ben Rothersberger? Well, Ben Rothersberger looked great. So I got no problem with that bet. Okay. But.

But Drew Brees did look very, very good, very sharp. And the weapons seemed to be rising there around him. You know, he had all those weapons lost and seems to have some weapons gain. I still think they're going to run the ball more. So it's not going to be the same amount of attempts he usually gets, but he is Drew Brees. So he'll be pretty good. I still don't like the value where he's being drafted. Ben Watson caught a touchdown?

He looked pretty good to me. Obviously, the tight ends are involved in the passing game there. I moved Colston down a little bit just because I was witnessing a lot of weapons on that team with Cooks and Coleman and Ingram caught passes. Ingram's a guy that looked really good to me. Yeah, which is fantastic news. The concern on Ingram was we've seen it for one year after years of disappointment for a first round pick, a guy they moved up to take in the first round.

He's on his contract year, and all of a sudden he's good. There's question marks there. So seeing him continue his performance from last year is fantastic news. All right, so that covers the Saints pretty good. Yeah. Can we cover another team that I really want to talk about? Go for. There is a team out there that was so crazy and wily.

this offseason. You kind of had no idea whether the mad science of it would come together, but the Philadelphia Eagles offense looks fantastic. Bradford looked good. He took some hits, drove him down the field. Did you guys see the picture? No. Of Torel Suggs, like a perfectly timed picture of Torel Sugs hitting him right in the knee. Oh, man.

He had some brutal hits on him. I think too brutal. But the picture is outstanding. You got to Google it. Yeah, I'll have to look that up. But specifically, for me, the running backs. DeMarco Murray looked really, really good. Ryan Matthews stole a touchdown on that first drive. And from a fantasy perspective, I started thinking, I want some chips in that backfield. And I've been high on Ryan Matthews, and I've been kind of lower on Murray. But I'm now of the viewpoint of...

Where they're going in a draft, you can very easily get both of them. I don't think it's going to cost you too much to get both of those guys. And for me, I think that that would be valuable to have both of them on your team. You'd start both, though? I think there are situations where you can start both. I would presume that I would just be starting Murray with the best handcuff in the league. But I think that as the year rolls on, it's possible that both of those players are week-to-week startable.

So I'm just saying you can hedge your bets and have what I know is going to be a very run-heavy, successful, high-scoring backfield. So I just, I think I'm putting some chips on that backfield. And taking a look at ADP. I'm hungry for chips now. Murray is a guy who I had no problem taking the first round. Latavius Murray? No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. DeMarco Murray. Oh, okay. I would take him in the back half of the first round. ADP.

Right now, he's in the middle of the second round. So if you're one of those, one of the drafters who wants to take an elite wide receiver, so you're in the back, now if things trend this way, or if you're drafting right now, I mean, now you have Jeremy Hill and DeMarco Murray that can possibly fall back to you in the second round. That would be just tremendous, tremendous value for me to get a high-level RB1 right there. Another guy that...

Another offense that looks good. Another guy that looks good to me is Lamar Miller. He was very quick. He was clearly the guy in Miami, and he looks like he's going to pick up where he left off last year. Tanna Hill looked good. Every time he needed to make a throw, it was the Jarvis Landry Show in the shorts. So Stills caught a few passes. They obviously are going to get Devonte Parker. Jordan Cameron was running a lot of routes. I mean, the offense looked very fluid. It looked quick.

I think all the signs and things we've talked about with Tennehill look good to me. Did you guys have any thoughts on that game? I just really loved Lamar Miller. I really did. I watched that game and he was fast. Like Spry? Froyo love? Yeah, I might take him out for some pro yo. Absolutely.

You're wearing kind of a dolphin's teal. I'm rocking my dolphins teal today. Lamar Miller really did look good. And you know who else looked good was Williams behind him. Jay Ajai is nowhere to be found for me. I know I gave him some love just a couple weeks ago saying that that would be a great handcuff because he's a three-down type of guy. But I think the dolphins have kind of soured on him. And there's just no need because Williams looked like a great backup. And Lamar Miller looked like a great starter.

Yeah, to me, there's always the need, but I think it's going to be a mid-season type of transition for a Jai. Right now, it's just not there. He hasn't impressed anybody, and Williams looks fine, like you said. Williams had a goal line carry. I mean, that was another thing that, I mean, I'm sure in the preseason we can't make too much of it, but they do have a history of not giving Miller too many touches. Yeah. So that still has to be remembered. Miller can look amazing, but if he's getting 10, 12, 14 touches a game in the backfield.

He'll be a fantasy value, but he can't be a top 5k. And Lamar Miller is going currently at the top of the third. Yeah, which is just... Beautiful. Wonderful. Very good. For RB1 potential in the third, come on. Come on, people. Another guy separating himself from the pack is Latavius Murray.