Mock Draft Mayhem Returns! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/17

Judy Pierce, Hopkins, London, Lawrence, McLaren at 507, like that, DJ Moore, Christian Watson, Cameron Acres, Alexander Madison. And the deucers, they wield their power yet again here at the end of the fifth round for Mike's Henry, Chub, Mixin, and Herbert team. I hope you've had enough time to consider. I'm seeing big nodding from Al Borland. Mike looks like a man who had his lunch money stolen. Same thing. A perfect player fell right here to Mike. And Mike's going to go with Yondre Swift here. Oh. You just, you didn't even draft me a player. You drafted, like, look, I guess everyone needs that one player to drop after week one. Oh, my. DeAndre Swift? At ADP here. That's right here. At ADP. Which, to be fair, is.

A terrible ADP for him. I feel like that is... No one should be drafting DeAndre Swift right now in the fifth round. I think what they did, the deusers mayhem was disconnecting Mike's internet so he got auto-drafted. That's what I think just happened on that pin. No, they want my draft to look like a deuce. This is terrible. Well, let's see how you piece this together, Mike. Okay. We are going to be benevolent. You've got this pick. I get to take the pick? You get to take this pick. Perfect. Tyler Lockett. That is an easy auto selection for me. You took them over Godwin in Hollywood. Yeah. Tyler Lockett, the 601 in the draft. The king of wide receiver 15. I feel like they drafted a retired player for you.

With DeAndre Swift. Like Jason has to be thrilled with Kittle right now. Kiddle is so good. Kittle is usable. Well, what I know about Kittle is he is definitely going to be a major part of the team and the offense. DeAndre Swift, I mean, there's still an outcome where he does do the Miles Sanders role. I just don't think any of us think that's going to happen. I think pass catching is in the cards. The end of sentence. Yeah. The problem with DeAndre Swift is, like, I'll even give that to you, Jason. Somehow they're like, DeAndre Swift is our most talented running back, and he's going to be the Miles Sanders. Sure, in the range of outcomes, that would be really low probability, but who knows what the Eagles are thinking right now. But on the other side of something that is a probability is DeAndre Swift plays like eight snaps a game. Going in the fifth round?

Yeah, he was slightly ahead of where he's going on sleeper by three picks. But it was a shock. It was rude. It was great. How does it feel that have wielded some power? Yeah, that's what you get, brooks. It's a lot to deal with. Yeah. We're going to have a conversation after the show. I have a question of clarity. Do you want Swift? I'll trade them to you right now for this pick. No, thank you. Dude, 612 for the 512? Just straight up. Usually that would be a good deal. Was the deucers mayhem and I think there's an additional. So now you still have. Yeah. It's not in lieu of. All right. Just gives me more room to meander down the back of this draft. Next year when I'm in charge. Oh boy. Yeah. I'm just.

I'm making the whole draft. Every round is a mayhem. You know the rules. When we've had mayhem drafts before, we tried to build up. Okay. You have George Kittle, one of the teammates of your first pick, Christian McCaffrey. So you have the option. You could go some more 49ers here, Jason, but you are on the clock. Higgins-Olave-Dobbins, McCaffrey, and Kittle. I'm not certain. I know Mike's been dealt a difficult hand. But Henry Chubb Mixing, with Lockett as the wide receiver one is really, and Herbert on the rock, that is not a bad team, even if you delete a fifth round pick in D'Andre Swift. I would agree with you? I mean, would I rather have Henry Chubb and Mixon or McCaffrey Dobbins and a running back here? I mean, I think I like the Henry Chubb and Mixon. Well, yeah, those are my first three picks. That wasn't my fourth and my sixth rounder. Well, go ahead and make the selection, Jason.

Who do I? Am I allowed to make the selection? What's your process? Right now I'm looking at, so the quarterback position is pretty much scooped up. As soon as Trevor Lawrence goes, that's where I usually wait for a while. I've started targeting Anthony Richardson as kind of the guy I want late. I'm also staring at right now if I were to take a quarterback. It would be Deshaun Watson, someone I haven't drafted anywhere yet, but I can see. an outcome where it is positive for him fantasy-wise. But I would probably be at this point not looking at a quarterback. I'd be looking at a wide receiver. And if I'm staring down the options there, it would probably be Mike Williams would be my selection. Go for it. Okay. Mike Williams, your pick here to stack with Oliva in Higgins. You have Dobbins and CMC and you got George Kittle.

And then you're going to have a long wait after this pick. Remind me what mayhams are left. Mike has made the selection. The deucers have. So you have two left? I can pick your player for you or I can make you switch positions. Okay. What kind of game do I want to play here? Play the truth. Who would you pick? I'm not playing the truth. You got to give good advice. Who I would pick. Act like I'm not even here. Okay. Well, then I'm going. You're just in a vacuum. All right. I will look at taking Deshawn Watson because I haven't had him yet. Pair him with George Kittle, a player I haven't drafted yet, and try a different team. May I select that? Yeah, you got you got duped. Yes. I knew he didn't want Watson. No, I'll go ahead and make the selection for you. Deshawn Watson.

I'm going to go with. I could. I could do that, huh? Yeah, yes. You make the rules here. Wait, he fist pumped. He did celebrate. Like he pulled. Deshawn Watson is. Take him. Oh, my gosh. I just changed your pick into your pick. Oh, my good. What mayhem. Select him. Okay. I really, I'm pretty happy with that. That is funny. You put your hand in the mousetrap. Yeah, you did. Oh, you got the cheese, but... So the ironic part is... I really did want him. Well, he was in consideration. It wasn't like a complete anti-Watson pick, but I really wanted a running back here. And when I was on the clock, I would have taken James Cook. So I was hoping that you made me redo the pick, and I didn't want to select the running back.

Because then I would have to go to a different position. Honestly, my pick for you was going to be Brandon Ayuk, so you had a former my guy and a triple 49er. But I like what happened a lot more. All right. So Dak goes right after Deshaun Watson is added to your roster. Look, I like Deshaun Watson. I mean, I think he's going to be a good fantasy player this year. Sure. Pacheco goes next. Then Iyuk goes, Dalvin Cook, 7.05 could be a good early season value. It could be a good pick. We just talked about the injury and the slower recovery timeline.

Montgomery, Gibson, and James Cook. So the brothers go four picks apart. Michael Pittman, Pity City at 709, A.J. Diante Johnson. And then the hitman back on the clock here. Deontay Johnson would have been fantastic as one of these edge picks. But something good has happened to my team, at least in my opinion. Michael Evans has dropped to the 7, to the 712. Like, wow. I mean, mayhem aside, you know, looking at the team with the three running backs at the beginning, the forced pick of another running back, like, I'm just, I don't even care at this point about there's sleeper running backs, value running backs. You're basically punting that position at this point. I have to for my build. So Mike Evans would be my first pick here.

Okay, you can take that player. Okay. So that is, that's not the worst. That's not the worst thing that could have happened. Tyler Locke and Mike Evans as my wide receiver one and two. That's amazing value, those two guys there. I know I have been less bullish on Mike Evans. I'm not as confident that, you know, as, as some people in him. But if you're getting Mike Evans at the seven, eight turn, that's not where he belongs. Yeah, I mean, this is happening consistently. And it happened on the team where you guys mayhemed me into a bunch of running backs. Right. Mike Evans ends up being the guy that sneaks through. And again, a round and a half later than Chris Godwin.

has had an outstanding camp, love the pick. Your team's actually all right, Mike. We're turning it around. Imagine if you had a fifth round pick. I know. That would be so crazy. Mike, you are on the clock yet again. All right. Again. Tell us to your thought process here. I have, it's for the people laying it out. If this were my team, I'm still in the wide receiver area. Highest on the ADP, we got Jackson Smith and Jigba, who. If I hadn't drafted Tyler Lockett and I only had two. Like if I had more wide receivers, maybe I could be talked into doubling up on the Seahawks. I don't really want to do that. George Pickens of the Pittsburgh Steelers, he's gotten good consistent buzz out of training camp, but I just, I'm not really bought in. I think that Deontay Johnson and Fryer Muth will be the targets for them and Pickens will be okay. Jordan Addison in the concussion protocol could have the breakout of the rookie.

That gets me to the guy who I would be targeting, which I'm sure I won't be able to make this pick. But I would be selecting Johan Dotson, second year wide receiver from the Washington commanders, who I think that there is a chance that if we get some good quarterback play, which that's very up in the air, that I think both Terry McLaurin and Dotson are going to be good picks and beat their ADP. Yep. Okay. All right. Well, Jason was just complimenting your team. Yes, he was. And how it's been pieced together. So why don't I just give him the pick? Okay. Let me look real quick at the running back position. Good Lord. You know what? You gave me T. Higgins instead of Chris Olav. I gave you a great player. And so I'm going to do you a solid. And I'm going to give you a different player that will actually help your build. I'm going to switch away from. Dodson.

Dotson and I'm going to give you a player that I really like. And I think he's perfect for your roster. I'm going to give you Jordan Addison. Okay. All right. I accept. You chose one of the players that he mentioned that he was looking at. Yeah. You felt like he was benevolent with the T. Higgins. He was nice to me. And honestly, I want this experiment to work. Like I really like how his team is. You're rooting for my team now. I am the Derek Henry, Nick Chubb, Joe Mixon. Justin Herbert start, when you go into the fifth round without a wide receiver. Oh, man. That seems impossible. And then you delete your fifth round. It's over. But this has actually turned out. Tyler Lockett, Mike Evans, and Jordan Addison going in the six, seventh, and eighth round, that's pretty nice. We've learned along the way, the true mayhem is kindness.

All right. So you end up with Lockett, Evans, Addison is your three wide outs. Okay. We have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve wide outs out of the last thirteen. Thank goodness I got one. Oh, man. So they were, they just deleted. Pickens. I would have perished. Yeah. If I gave you another running back, you would have been toast. Pickens, Smith, and Jigba, and then Ingram breaks the streak. And then Dodson, Quentin Johnston, Berks, Cooks. Thomas, Gabe Davis, Babe Davis. I was really hoping Babe Davis got to me. And Cadarius, Tony. Jason, you were back on the clock with Watson at quarterback, Kiddle, Dobbins and McCaffrey, running back, and then three wideouts with Higgins-Olave and Williams. Yeah, given that I've only got the two running backs, I'm looking at that position right now, I would be selecting Khalil Herbert, who I think at the, you know, the 8-9 turn is just...

He's a really good value. It looks like he's locked into the starting role. I think he'll play the David Montgomery role. And he's succeeded in the past. So that would be my pick if I am allowed to select it. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead and take Khalil Herbert. I can't stop you from getting him here because you're at the turn. Yeah. Which is kind of, you know, you guys, you worry about the extra mayhem we have, but you got these back-to-back picks. There's a lot of gamesmanship going on now. You were going to get Herbert no matter what, because I only got one may him left. Yeah, no, you played it well. And honestly, I'll just say who I would definitely pick here. I've been rising more and more, which is funny because I started early this offseason high. I had Zay Flowers listed as the leader of that depth chart from the beginning. And as time went on, I got a little bit more and more afraid, but he's just been. He looks great. He's.

He's just the sweetness out there. These routes are like, if the camera is zoomed in on him, he leaves the frame. The cameraman is like, where'd he go? Imagine being a defender. Yeah, the cameraman's on inside coverage and he can't make it outside. He's blocking the slant. Look, he's a great player, but you ain't getting to pick. Mayhem. I would have taken Zayflowers too, Jay. Yeah, which means I cannot. take a wide receiver. That's correct. You need to pivot. You get the choice. You can pivot. I'm using my final mayhem on you, which is loan. I'm basically just slapping the nope on there and you have to switch to another spot. So you got to take a, you know, you already got a tight end. You already got a quarterback. Yeah. So I'm going to look at the running back position because I've got Christian McCaffrey, Dobbins, and Herbert. I feel like I can explore here a little bit, maybe go off of ADP and get a little bit more wild.

I was going to take Devon A-chain because you know I really like him, but actually looking at this and thinking about the situations where you've got little bitty baby boy, Devon A-chain. I'm going to go with the player that Mike and I were just so madly, madly in love with until he landed as a backup. I'm going to take Zach Charbonnet. I would never take A-chain above Charbonnet. So I'll add him to my roster. Well, Rashad Penny, how he has fallen in drafts at 902. You went Herbert Charbonnet, Firemuth, and Joku, Tua, Richardson, Cousins, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Aaron Rogers, Brian Robinson, and Devon A-Chane. Mike, I know exactly. How many Mayhams do you have left? I think I only have one left for Mike. Yes. I think you, yes. I can't believe it happened.

Zay Flowers, baby. I mean, just. Yes. Yes. No. You know what? I should have just made him take him with the next pick just for punitive. I mean, you got Zay Flowers around after Jason. Yes. Go ahead. You got one more. No, I'm done, man. No, you don't want the last two picks? I'm logging out. Lockett Evans Addison Flowers. Would you be pretty good going into the draft with that? What? Where we started and where we have ended are two very different places. I'm not sure my heart is strong enough for that. If DeAndre Swift was available here in the 10th round, would you take him? No. He's on my D&D list. Do not draft. All right. So I have two picks left. You need to pick up a tight end. I do need to pick up. And I could really leave you with none.

I do need to pick up a tight end here. So wait, just playing this out. Let's say you don't use your mayhem here. Then next round, does Mike have to try to not draft the tight end? So that if you use the mayhem, he can have a tight end, but then you can guarantee it. But then I can just not use the mayhem. Oh, how wonderful. Who's your pick? I'm looking at the tight end position here. It's, We are down into Sleeper territory. Higby, Laporta, Schultz, Kincaid. Dalton Schultz has had zero mention this office. I just saw a little bit today that he has kind of been the most reliable player for the Texans pass catchers, which is not saying a whole lot with, I mean, Tank Dell has been getting some highlight reels every once in a while. If I had to take a tight end from this group.

Oh my gosh, it's, it is not great. Um, but if it really were my pick, this is, it's way off of the 80P radar. I would take Fergalicious. I would take Jake Ferguson right here. Okay. Mayhem. I'll spare you the drama of the final round. So we'll have you select. You'll have to wait. Your last, the last pick in the draft will be your tight end. Yes. And it will probably still be forgalicious. It probably will be. But, um, go ahead and make a different selection here as we've, We finished this. All right. So I'm into the wide receivers. Oh, gosh. Are you into the wide receivers? No, I'm not into who's here. Well, not into, but I mean, like, are you considering another running back? If Swift is a deletion, then you have three running backs, but that's it. Yeah, but I have three high, high level running backs to the point of I don't, everyone who's left on the board is just.

Well, I guess-Colent Sutton is... That's what I was going to say is, I don't know if I have the strength to do it, but Cortland Sutton has... Would you ever cast your lot into another, like, go Rashad Bateman and hope that because you wait... Just double up on the Ravens? Because you waited so long for wide receiver, you just picked the right one there? No. Okay. I don't think I would want to do that. I don't think it's a terrible strategy at this point of the draft, but I'm not looking to do that. If I took a running back here, it would be tank Bigsby, the backup, quote unquote, backup for the Jacksonville Jaguars where he's been getting a lot of good reports as well. And the usage of preseason game one was maybe telling that there was, he wasn't on the, like, I think he took one snap with the starters.

But of the rookie backup running backs, guys weren't doing that. And Tank Bigsby did that. And it was a third and short. And then they went to Tank Biggsby instead of Travis ETN. I wonder if that's the team kind of tipping their hand. That tank will be the short yardage, maybe the goal line running back. So that's interesting to me. But I would take, I would take Cortland Sutton right here. Or I guess I could make my pick. You get to choose it. Oh, that is. I've been, with the Cortland Sutton buzz going around, coming out of camp, I'm sure you've seen it on Twitter. I've been telling the guys, if Cortland Sutton is good this year, the range of emotions I will feel will be like, extreme. I'll be joy that the player who I thought was good is actually good, furious that he wasn't my guy last year, and now he's actually good this year. Rage, despair, some happiness. Yeah, I mean, it's, I'll be all over.

We've had a history of our post-hyped my guys delivering. Post-hype my guy. I mean, Cooper Cup was a my guy the year before he had one of the greatest seasons in NFL history. This is why everyone should be drafting Gabe Davis this year. Yeah, because it's the post. Yeah, post-top my guy. What's funny about Sutton is that, you know, if he's great, then you were right about him a year late. Right. But it's still not helpful. But then you're mad about it. Yes. If he's bad again, then are you happy? I'm ecstatic. Okay. Jason, let's make some final picks here. Two final selections before we get into best ball breakdown. Two final selections. I'm looking at the wide receiver position. You really did.

ruin my roster by taking away Zay Flowers. Oh, boy. Well, at least Mike didn't. Oh, he did get him. Oh, man. I can't believe he fell. That was pretty crazy. I was hoping Elijah Moore. He was number one at ADP at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I was hoping Elijah Moore would fall to me to stack with Deshaun Watson. He did not. I don't love the wide receivers on the board, but based on my team, having only T. Higgins, Chris Oliva, and Mike Williams, I have to get wide receivers. So I'm looking at, I'm going to. Select Alan Robinson or I'm sorry, Alan Lazard. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Did you guys hear that? Yeah, there is no, no, no, no. Let me go ahead and sell. Oh my gosh. I'm drafting Al-Lazard and before you can log in and change this, I'm grabbing Van Jefferson. Oh my. I was in the middle of wondering if you had a mayhem left and Alan Robinson's.

Dirty, dirty name came out of my mouth. Honestly, if you want to add a new mayhem, it should be the Alan Robinson. It's just that pick. It becomes Alan Robinson. Wow. All right. You, you acted quick enough. Alan Lazard Van Jefferson is late round sleepers. Mike, final pick, Jake Ferguson, off the board. I love the Van Jefferson pick in the 11th, by the way. Thank you. I think Robinson would have been better there. Why don't you guys read back your rosters? You've survived the most intense mayhem draft we have ever had. I've got at quarterback Deshaun Watson, tight end is George Kittle. At running back, Christian McCaffrey, J.K. Dobbins, Khalil Herbert, and Zach Charbonnet at wide receiver T. Higgins, Chris Olavay, Mike Williams, Alan Lazard, and Van Jefferson. At running back, I have Derek Henry, Nick Chubb, Joe Mixon. That's it.

at the wide receiver position. I do have DeAndre Swift technically on my roster. Wide receiver, Tyler Lockett, Mike Evans, Jordan Addison, is a Flowers, Cortland Sutton. My quarterback is the luscious locks of Justin Herbert. And then Jake Fergalicious is my complete punt at the tight end position. Bestball Breakdown, presented by Underdog Fantasy. All right, every week this offseason, we've been jumping into best ball breakdown with Underdog Fantasy and looking at some of the, you know, strategies, tips, tricks, approaches to best ball leagues. And they've been a lot of fun this off season. Today, it's a simple topic. Name a player that you want to draft in best ball, but not in redraft leagues. Best ball, if you're unfamiliar, you're going to be getting...

The best players from your roster as the players that get scored each week, you don't have to make start-sit decisions. So players with high volatility upside but disappear at times, maybe low-pass reception volume, things like that that make big plays. The name that always came into mind for me in years past was the Deshaun Jackson-type player. Is there a player in particular this year that you were all over in best ball and not touching in redraft? I wouldn't say I'm not touching him in redraft, but I would certainly reach for him higher in best ball because I think he's so valuable there. Ironically, in today's mock draft, I did draft this player. It's Mike Williams. I think that, you know, the Chargers offense I want pieces of. But for, you know, best ball where you need those monster weeks, you need super high upside. Like Keenan Allen, I prefer Keenan Allen over Mike Williams.

But not in best ball. In best ball, I want someone that can go out there and drop a 30 burger at the wide receiver position. That's what Mike Williams could do. And the player I want the most in best ball is your answer, Andy. Yeah, and it's in the same category. It's Babe Davis, Gabriel Davis of the Buffalo Bills wide receiver. You know, he was a disappointment in redraft leagues last year, fourth, fifth round draft cost. But really wasn't. That bad in best ball leagues. I mean, he had some huge performances. He added more points on average despite only 48 receptions last year. That was the disappointment in redraft. It wasn't more involved. But, you know, you were able to use 74% of his fantasy points in best ball. And he missed week 17 because they had the game canceled. So he is the perfect.

target. He had the playoff extravaganza. He had the 98-yard touchdown, I think against Pittsburgh. He is a big play receiver who's had a great camp that, you know, we talked about it. If anything is going to come true, it's the fact that Jason named him a year too early. Brandon Ayuk. And so, you know, Gabe the Babe, I think he's a great redraft player. And I'm not, I wouldn't say I would not draft him in redraft, but the cost would have to be very, very low. All right, I'll jump in, because I have another Buffalo bill. It's rookie tight end, Dalton Kincaid. Because, and that's why. Because look, I've been in fantasy football. I mean, we're heading into our ninth season, really diving in. And rookie tight ends, just the, historically, they are such bad bets for redraft because rookie tight ends just don't produce. But unfortunately for Dalton Kincaid,