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Buy/Sell + Let’s Talk Trades, A Healthy Beating

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Through five weeks, I mean, that's not going to keep up. And so I'm just, I'm, I'm interested in seeing what I can get in a return for Mark Ingram. Like, can I go out? That's the question for me is, what are you looking for if you're going to sell him high? I'm looking. Who do you put in the tier above him? Because I agree his schedule has been conducive to what he's done too in the touchdown regression. It's not, it's not that I'm looking to upgrade my running back. It's look, it's that I'm hoping to move laterally.

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at the running back position or what I perceive. And get another piece. And then upgrade my wide receiver. That's a move that I'm willing to make. I'm not just holding on to Mark Ingram going, man, the Ravens run team, six touchdowns. So let me give you a hypothetical then. Is it a lateral move to you to move Mark Ingram and get David Johnson? Oh, that would be a, I mean, depending on your league, I would say that's an upgrade. Okay. Like if you're in a PPR, heck yes, I would do that. What about Chris Carson? That's the name I was going to

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bring up. I was just looking at him where he's 16th and half point PPR. You can sell the fact that Mark Ingram in half point is the running back six. Go get Chris Carson, upgrade your run at your wide receiver situation. You agree with that, Jay? Yeah, I do agree with that. Maybe wait, wait until Cincinnati. Yeah, maybe. It's over. If you look at the, you know, that first monster game that he had against Miami, we talk about, you know, those skew the numbers. Take that game out.

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He's still on pace for 16 touchdowns the rest of the season. So he is their goal line back, and I think they'll have opportunities. That's why you're saying he's not a must sell. He's going to be good. But he's only on pace for about 1,000 yards, which is, you know, if you're going to be like one of the top running backs, you're usually much higher than just hitting the quad. All right. Let's go ahead and let's do this. It's time for Rapid Round.

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All right, I'm going to go through questions from the Footland. Bobby Woods for the Walrus. Yes. No, I would take Bobby Woods. I would take Bobby Woods as well. Robert Woods for Mike Evans in a PPR league. Give me Evans. Yeah. A zero will do that to you. It does, but yes, I would trade Robert Woods for Mike Evans. Ooh, from Instagram. Robert Woods for DJ Chark. Do, do, do, do, do to do. I'll take Chark. I'll take Woods. I will tell you.

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Take chart. Look, to do this trade, if I'm moving Robert Woods to get Chark, I'm doing the, I'm hopefully cashing in on the name and I can get something else. So straight up, you wouldn't? I would be on the Wood side on this one. Straight up. And Cooks might miss a week. Woods is still involved. Straight up, it would be very difficult to sell the name value and the offense of the Rams. But DJ Chark is legit. DJ Tark has 700.

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touchdowns through the first few weeks. And while I believe he is legit, that's just, that's just not going to keep happening with the variable of a quarterback change coming. Robert Woods doesn't have a touchdown. Well, to the quarterback change, Nick Foles is targeting week 11. Okay. So that's, in fantasy terms, that's forever. That's five years from now.

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All right, wrap it around. Aaron Jones. Would you trade Aaron Jones for Keenan Allen? Aaron Jones is a player that actually has 700 touchdown. Yes, I would trade him for team dependent, but in a vacuum. Yes, I'd rather have Cooper Cup. You'd rather have Keenan and Cooper despite running backs being, you just talked about running backs being so important. But that's a huge upgrade to me. And Aaron Jones, this is the ultimate. Would you sell high on him right now? Yes. You both would? That situation was.

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Perfect. Aaron Jones is not getting four rushing touchdowns in a game again this year. Here's one thing I know about every league. Every league has a hardcore Packer fan. I've never ever been in a league that doesn't have a hardcore Packer fan. You'll buy the heck out of Aaron Jones. Do we have an update? We do. Yeah, Jamal Williams is still not cleared the concussion protocol heading into this week. But it's so it's concussion protocol, which means he should clear it. Jamal Williams will be back. Maybe it's not this week. Maybe it's next week. But LaFleur has.

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proven. He wants them to split touches so that this was an absolute perfect situation for Aaron Jones against the Cowboys. O'Dell Beckham Jr. Wrap it around. Derek Henry for O'Dell Beckham Jr. Give me Henry. Gross. I'll take Henry. We should talk about Beckham. Trade Devante Adams for Josh Gordon and Odell Beckham Jr. I'll take Adams. I'll take Beckham and Gordon. I will take Beckham and Gordon. Yeah.

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Beckham right now is obviously underwhelming to the maximum. We talked yesterday about, you know, Target share and air yards and averaged up the target. They're all matched Amari Cooper, but he's had a problem. I mean, he's not helped your team four to five weeks. Are you buying low on Odell Beckham? Yes. Okay. But I'm not trading away Devante, who should be back, if not this week, next week. And Devante, I'd rather have the powerhouse.

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in one slot, then kind of spread it across two. All right, Chris wants to know. Matt Brita for Mark Andrews. He has Kevin Coleman on his bench. Well, that's interesting. Would you rather have the combo, or would you rather pick up Andrew? If my tight-in situation is bleak, I guess I'm open to getting Andrews. I'm going to stick with Brita. All right, Cooper Cup for David Johnson or Leonard Fournett? Yeah. Prefer Fournett, but I would be willing. You would do that? I'd be willing to do it, yeah.

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Chris Carson for Lev Bell and D.K. Metcalf? Yeah. Well, for both? Yeah. Metcalf is arguably waiver fodder depending on your week. Throw Metcalf out. Yeah, would you do Chris Carson for Love Bell? Chris Carson for Love Bell. Which one do you want? I'd rather have Love Bell. I think it's really, really close. Yeah. So give me the guy who's passes by week. I'm picking up an extra week. Oh, man. So what are you projecting for this Jets offense? I know it's been the worst. I think they're going to be middle of the pack.

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A stat came out yesterday. But I don't think they're going to be that far below the Seahawks. I don't see the Seahawks as a top five offense. But aren't they right now? I'm saying on the season. You're saying projecting for how things go. Yeah. Chris Carson, part of that is just workload. You're believing that Lev Bell is going to have more weekly carries than Carson, which is not a foregone conclusion. But Carson has some risk with Rashad Penny and with the fumbling. There's a stat that came out yesterday.

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Christian McCaffrey averages more yards per drive than the Jets do. Yep. The Jets average. That's how bad it's been, and Love Bell's still been passable. I believe that was J.J. is that recent. It was. Jordan Howard for Curtis Samuel? I would rather have Jordan Howard. I... As would I. Yes. So I am selling Jordan Howard, but I think right now off the last few weeks you can get more than Curtis Samuel. I would not... He's not, you know, he's not get rid of. He's trying to capitalize on. T. Y. Hilton for Todd Gurley.

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Ooh. Yes, I would rather have Gurley. I'll take Gurley there. Chris Godwin for Travis Kelsey. What do you make a Kelsey start? Let's go there. Sure. What do you make of his start to the season? He has not exactly taken advantage of, you know, the absence of Tyreek Hill. He's had some drops. He's had some strange plays. He's, he has, for what you got him to be, he is really disappointed. He has let you down. He's sucked. He's the tight in three.

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You know what I mean? Like this is, this is him disappointing. So do I think he's going to continue to disappoint as the season goes along? No. Yeah. I think I would probably stick with Godwin. He has 439 receiving yards to Evan Engram, who's second, 373. Travis Kelsey has one touchdown. That's literally everything for Travis Kelsey's disappointment is in the touchdown category. All right. Last one. Sonny Michelle or Cortland Sutton? Sonny Michelle.

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I saw this posted this morning. Mike Tagler, I believe, brought this up. Sony Michelle faced an insane 62.5% eight men in the box this past week when he produced 16 carries for 91 yards and a touchdown. I thought that was interesting that he went up against the pretty stout defense and had a good game. Sony Michelle or Cortland Sutton, I will side with the running back. This is to me a perfect.

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example of if there are two teams in the league and they need the opposite position, I would be willing to make this trade on both sides. I like Sutton. I like Sony. So if you need a running back, you got wide receiver depth or vice versa do this trade in general. You side with the running back. Are you starting Sutton every week? Yes. I think he's, yeah, I mean, it depends on your options, but I think he's a startable player every week. Okay. Thursday night breakdown.

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All right, the Giants at 2 and 3 take on the Patriots at 5 and 0. The Patriots are 16.5 point favorites in this one. Big surprise there. 42.5 point over under. But with a line like that, the Patriots implied point total is almost 30. The Giants at 13. Daniel Jones, I'm so sorry that this is going to be a part of your story in life. Hey, hey, this is your time, Daniel Jones. You want to prove?

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Literally everyone in the world wrong. Because even the people that drafted you right now are going, oh, crap. Yeah, this is not. We should not have to start at him yet. Let me ask you this. If Sequin and Evan Ingram are out of the game, who is the New York Giants best player? Best player? Best player? Golden Tate. Golden Tate. You're talking offensive skill player, right? Oh, it's Golden Tate. Golden Tate's a great wide receiver. Over Daniel Jones? Yeah.

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Okay. However, temper your expectations for Golden Tate and all of his friends in this one. You know, John, quote, just happy to be here, Hilleman. Who put that in? That was Kyle. That's mean. I like it. Of course you do. I didn't spend up on him. I don't know if I want to play him or not. You could probably do worse than the snaps that he'll get, but he was so...

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My problem is he was so unproductive last week in his snaps that what is the team believe is their best chance to run the ball. And if Elijah Penny gets more work than we think it's possible, it's just kind of a depressing offensive situation for the Giants. A successful game for New York is no one on their team gets hurt. So don't play. They should not be playing.

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or Evan Ingram, who is practicing in a limited fashion, it's still possible Evan Ingram plays. They shouldn't do it. Your deep league dart throw of Darius Slayton exists on the outside. Golden Tate will be on the inside. Had 67% of snaps last week, did nothing with them. Daniel Jones, from what we've seen so far, he is willing to take a chance, throw the ball downfield.

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So I tend to think that, you know, your outside wide receiver is going to have your opportunity at a production, your garbage time production. That can exist. I wasn't sure where you were going with that because when you said he is willing to take a chance, take a risk throughout. My first thought is, so this is great news for the Patriots D. It is great news for the Patriots D. I mean, obviously anyone who has the Patriots D, which you've got to give the first quarter of the year MVP award.

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to the Patriots D. I mean, if you've got them, you're not losing a lot of games here. They're going to have another awesome matchup. Tom Brady, you're starting him. Sonny Michelle, James White. They're in your lineup. Yep. Julian Edelman, Josh Gordon, in your lineup. Philip Dorset, injury update. He didn't practice. He's not going to play this week. I don't expect him to play. Matt LaCose at tight-in. He ran 94% of snaps last week.

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or he was out there for 94% of snaps. He actually ran 42 passing rounds, but it was Ryan Isso that caught the touchdown. Matt Lacoste is the better bet for production. It's interesting. And they let go of Ben Watson, so we're bringing it up because maybe there's future plans here for LaCoste that we just haven't seen materialized yet. No door set in this game. That's what I wanted to bring up. Wanted to bring up the fact that they let Ben Watson go, and now maybe they're going to try and work Matt LaCost into the game plan a little bit more.

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I don't advise it. In our NFL League 1, we picked up Chris Herndon to play while Darren I am the Wallerest is on his biweek. We may be playing Matt Lacoste. So if you want to go down that slide of doom with us, have fun. It's going to be terrible. We can hold hands. The Giants are allowing the fifth most passing yards per game at 279 a game.

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Patriots defense, as you mentioned. They're giving up just 160 passing yards per game. They have yet to allow a passing touchdown. Let's be real here. When you're playing Darius Slatern or Golden Tate, you're singing songs if you get four for 60. If you're the Giants, how do you not put Eli back in for this game? Oh, I mean, he has proven the ability to beat the Patriots when you least expect it. When they are up against it.

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Against the Patriots, Eli Manning comes through with one to two sensational plays that wins the game. How do you not think about it? Is Plaquesico Burris available for this one? Or good old moon hands. Tyree. Get David Tyree bag in here. Yeah, I mean, they're on pace for 77 sacks this year, which would be an NFL record that famous 84 Bears defense had 72. Patriots defense. Now, if the Patriots defense get to play Washington and.

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