Fantasy Football - Dynasty Draft Tips + Rookie Sleepers, Age Cliffs - Podcast for 5/14

contract right now do you know it off the top of your head uh he's in the final year of the contract remember they had uh they'd given him the injury contract yes he got he tore the ACL or I think it was ACL and they kind of gave him the contract to say no you're secure here we want secure her but I Christian Watson is yeah it looks like he's got a couple void years on his contract after this one I think he'll get an extension I am As of right now, where everything is going, shaking out with the market, what I think of teams, Christian Watson is a glaring value to me right now. I think that there are some rookies this year, some, you know, if you're assuming your rookie draft is over, like if I could trade any second round rookie pick this year for Christian Watson, I would do that. But if your rookie draft is over, look at who you drafted at the back of the first, the early second. And I think that.

Those players in this year's draft have, you know, the hope, the potential out there, and they probably won't hit what Christian Watson can do. And just a reminder if you're, you know, just catching up, the Green Bay Packers no longer have Romeo Dobbs. He is on the Patriots. They traded Don Tavian Wicks, the hope and the promise every year of Wicks being a breakout. So he's on the Eagles now. And Tucker Kraft. And Tucker Kraft is returning from his own injury. I think the targets are going to get consolidated here where it's Green Bay where they've been doing these things of playing a lot of wide receivers. Sometimes you feel like, why is this guy getting snaps? But that's been their method. They can't now. The current depth chart to me says it's going to be Watson. What is the problem with Jaden Reed?

What is the problem with you can read? What is fantasy? He is only on the field for three wide receiver sets. That's right. And so they play a lot of two wide receiver snaps. So now Christian Watson and who else? Matthew Golden. So you're telling me, you're telling me Christian Watson just has to compete with Matthew Golden for targets on a lot of snaps. Easy bet. Easy bet. Sometimes it's just too easy. We got a trade block question off of X from Hawks fan. What's your stance on placing a player in the trade block? Does that hurt their perceived value by letting the whole league know they're available? Or do you find it worth it to make sure that all potential bidders know? This is a good question that I have as well because I don't have the answer. When I put a player on the trade block, what I feel like has happened is everyone just goes, oh, you're giving this guy away? How about my garbage? You want my garbage? That's what I experience.

But on the other side, I do see moments where someone put someone on the trade block and then the next day that player has found a new home. And I'm like, ah, so it can work. And I guess from, this is anecdotal, absolutely no evidence here, but I think it's just what tier of player is. If you put a high tier player on the trade block, you get good offers. Yes. Like you are announcing, at that point you're announcing. Hey, I am willing to hear offers on Jamar Chase, which people aren't just going out there and making offers on some of the best players because they just assume not possible. It's not possible. But if there's news, you know, I've seen it where it's like bad news comes out on a middle tier player. And so then that player goes on the trade block. You think we all don't know the news? Yeah. You're going to get a fast one over on us. Everyone in the league has.

the notifications like those things just hurt a player's value yeah the i agree with that i i think the trade block is good do you use it uh yeah i do i you know i if i have a pull that you know i'm trying to make some moves i'll put a guy in the block i would say though i have had experiences with people you know like a one manager where it's like okay a player keeps getting players keep getting put on the block and then you like reach out oh let's have a conversation and it turns into like the boy who cried wolf situation where you're like you don't actually want to trade this guy you're you're wanting me to come in and overpay for this players like that's not that's not how this works so then it that creates a situation where i don't i don't even want to talk to this manager or or like because i know we're not getting anything worked out so yeah just just avoid that

So Jeremy just said you can always reject lowball offers. Any trade negotiations are better than no trade negotiations. And while that part is true, what you're experiencing, I've definitely been there. I have 100% been to the place where I don't, I just stop working with certain managers. Yeah. Because I feel like we can't get a job done. So if you, you know, you've got to be responsible on both sides. Agreed. Uh, Instagram from Lucky Kyle trade Christian McCaffee McCaffee Christian McCaffrey for Trayvion Henderson straight up. Oh man. Oh, baby. Context for this one really, really matters. McCaffrey, though he is my dude, he, he is a human being. We don't know how long he will be elite for in the NFL. I think we're all still projecting.

a healthy mcalfrey on the 49ers this year will be awesome for fantasy football how long does he have and then the conversation about henderson like i'm in a trickier spot now i brought him up on uh this week's dynasty podcast that we were looking at all the the year two running backs of like these were the chosen ones last year we all knew and and there's greatness there But when you look at now all the situations going into year two, it's like, oh, oh, man. Something's got a break right. You are the most man crush on. Yeah, Henderson. Henderson on the field, I thought was, you know, he, I thought he should have been a first breakout. He had his breakout with the Patriots. That's where this is so difficult for me because he had the breakout.

And then Ramandre came back and they went right back to Ramandre. Yeah. Instead of doing the appropriate thing of, hey, our young second round running back is who we thought he was. It's time to flip this up. And they went, nope, we're going to make a Super Bowl run here. And we want Remandre to be the leader of the timeshare. There's two things with this. One that is bad is Romandre still has a lot of money. And years, I believe he has at least two years left on his deal. So from a dynasty perspective, that can hurt Hindo. But on a positive side, they went back to Romandre and they did that like in the playoffs when things really mattered. And I think a lot of that, if you look at. And Remodre was fumbling again last year. But, but pass protection and like some of the veteran things that matter, I think mattered to them. Coming into year two.

Henderson should get better as a running back, like better as an athlete. He's coming into his prime. He will have more trust, more knowledge of the system. I do expect him to, I have Henderson significantly ahead of Ramandre this year in redraft. So it's funny when I was talking about the startup tips, I had been looking at where Christian McCaffrey was going in just consensus. startup drafts right now. And he's right in a four-pack of different positions. You have Jordan Tyson, Tyler Warren, Christian McCaffrey, and Trayvian Henderson. Oh, man. So it's like those four. And if you said this right, because this was a trade question. Yes. The context of your team matters. What is your window? Because championship teams should be trying to trade for Christian McCaffrey. Put yourself over the top. Get the, get the trophy.

If I'm in a startup draft, Christian McCaffrey, I would take after all those players. If I'm building a foundation of a team for the future, I would rather have Jordan Tyson, Tyler Warren, and Trayvion Henderson. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Age cliffs. This is off of YouTube. What age do you begin devaluing a player and how does that age differ per position? So there's a couple things here. I think it differs. between position internally within the position. So not every quarterback plays the same style of game. If you rely on the running game, it's usually an earlier age cliff than like a Matthew Stafford and Aaron Rogers, a Dak Prescott that can, you know, go a little bit deeper into their career. I know, Mike, you used to have some good, this is several years ago, but you saw the end coming for Cam Newton before that was popular.

So when you're looking at that with, say, Jalen Hertz, Jalyn Hertz's age cliff is going to be a little bit earlier than what it will be for Dak Prescott. Lamar was scary. His passing has gotten so much better. Like Josh Allen is less scary because he can also throw for 4,500 and 40 just from the pocket. When that switch happens for Allen, he will be fine. Yeah. I'm getting to the point when the switch happens for Lamar, I think he's going to be okay too. I think he will remain athletic and fast enough that maybe we're not getting all the rushing yards we want out of him, but it's going to help him stay, you know, not getting hit in the pocket and things like that. So we do have an article, we'll point out in the Dynasty Pass. One of our writers, Big Marv, it's an excellence.

excellent article that we go back and we refresh and look at things um but i'll give you so essentially like for a running back 27 is the age where they're still going to be they can still be great the cell window opened but but if you're trying to not hold the bag right you got to get out wide receivers it's around 29 um and then tight ends is you know like that tight ends are Strange. Almost every position peaks starting about 25. And then if you want like the death year, where it's like you, congratulations, you have the bag. And of course, there are your Tom Brady's and your Derek Henry's, but that's not normal. No. It's 34 at quarterback, 30 at running back, 31 at wide receiver, and 32 at tight end. Got a next question from, it's a me, Mario, 2912. Would you trade Bijan for Hampton and a first?

Or would you try to get more? Bejohn for Hampton and a first, I would, ooh. I think I would, I think I would do that because 2027 is a loaded draft. Hampton and Bijon. Oh, man, I keep Bijon. Yeah. I mean, obviously Bijon is outstanding. We hadn't, we didn't get the opportunity to see what Hampton could be. So it's a bit of a projection. It's basically if. Put it this way. I think 2027 first round picks are going to be real. Yes. foundational pieces for a team. If Hampton is the running back, say, six, I think everyone would take this deal. You would prefer to have the running back six and a foundational wide receiver for Bejohn. If I knew how Hampton was going to do this year. But if Hampton is, I'm just saying, if you think what is the number?

where you would say okay a foundational piece and the running back eight would you do that with the running back 12 would you do that the running back 15 would you so at some point there's where you you've got to say what do i believe hampton is going to be who has hampton and dino senior i do not know but you have bejean would you send that would you be willing to do that offer right now Oh, that's, that really puts it to the test. Yeah. It feels like, I don't think you would do it. It feels like a no. Immediately it felt like a no because Bijan is my, is my beautiful. Yes. Wow. Who has him? I'm curious because. Goldie does. Goldie, okay. Goldie's team sucks, right? He's a rebuild, yeah. That's tempting. Yeah, I would do that. Oh my gosh. Would I do that? Oh my gosh. That's a great. Here's the thing though is. Wait, how, Goldie's trash trash, right? Yeah.

Oh, dude, I got to make that offer. Oh, but can I do it? You can look at it because running back where Bijon can be as the running back one versus the running back six. You know, the top three running backs every year are, they lap the field of the running back six. The running back six is inconsequential compared to whoever the number one or number two guy is on a usual year for fantasy football. So that's why I'm still on the Bijon side. You know, I want 2027 firsts. I think the, the dynasty world is awake to those. Like, maybe there's some stragglers who aren't hearing all the buzz about. I mean, that trade would be accepted, right? If I make that, maybe. Maybe. This is spicy. I don't know. I don't know if he has his.

True first. That's what I'm looking for right now. All right. Well, now that you're really distracted. Yeah. This is a question from the website. Wrap this show up. We got work to do. From Jeff. My name is Jeff. In button willow. Oh, bonjour. That's not in America. Button willow? Button willow California. I hope that's two words, not three. You know what I mean? It's one word, Jason. Oh, all right. Even better. I have the 102 and a dynasty rookie draft. I am R.B. Needy. Okay, this is a price. Do I take price and pass one of the top wide receivers? Well, if Andy were here, he would say yes. Yes. But Andy is not here, so I will say no. You've got to personally say, do you believe in Judarian Price? Did he say he's like a, he's a contender? I mean, if he's weak at running back, he's probably not a contender. All we know is the 102 and an R.B. Needy team.

No, no. If you're an R.B. Needy team, I don't think Price gives you a championship. Like, he's not going to, if you're R.B. needy, I don't think he pushes you over the top. And if you're not getting pushed over the top, take the best player. And I think you've got, whether Tyson or Tate, those guys just seem significantly better to me. And it's to you. One of the tips Andy kept saying on our, there's a recent, maybe maybe the last episode. It's like, don't just go by consensus. What we do here is we give you our opinion. We give you how to think about it and we try to entertain you. We try to be accurate, all those things. But don't just listen to us. Go watch Judarian Price. See what you think. Look at his film. Be like, man, I love this guy. This guy's awesome. Or I don't like what I see. I mean, make your own opinion. But in my opinion, I would take the wide receivers. It's, it's difficult for me.

I don't blame anyone. If you're at the 102, and I will say almost everyone in Dynasty needs a running back. We all need them. But if you're like, no, I'm down bad. I have to get someone. I'm okay with it. But my evaluation is that Tate and or Tyson, or, you know, I think one of them, if not both, will turn into not the Jamar tier. But that tier right underneath. I think both of those guys could hit that. And the fact that they are with, you know, the young quarterbacks. I'm in enough on Camboard to be like, yeah, he looks like he could be in a franchise guy. I'm super in on Shuck already. And the fact that, you're like, Kellyn Moore and Shuck, I think it's going to be fantastic. Daibel will help for Camboards. So just where I think that those wide receivers are headed.

I couldn't do that for someone who, I think, splits time. I think he becomes a Kenneth Walker type. I don't, Charbs will be, Charbs is banged up, you know, late season knee injury, but he will be back. And they, when he's back, they're gonna use him. For sure. And it was so frustrating to have Walker on your team and see greatness happen. And they're like, put Charbs in. You're like, why are we doing this? so if they three down price then anyone who didn't take him at one or two is going to feel bad so it's you got to make all those evaluations uh new new question well hold on you have a new question jason yeah so next year you got some stars of stars um in like jeremiah smith yeah the the high end wide receivers next year are

gonna be spicy yeah and in a running back or two so you're gonna you're gonna have some top end heavy town i mean williams to turn it around um back on track be jean for 2027 first and hampton where you get a chance at maybe jeremiah smith if you felt like you had a good chance at jeremiah smith plus hampton for bejohn then yes or a guaranteed carnell tate and Omari and Hampton. Oh, interesting. For Bijon, which would you prefer? Oh, man. Carnell Tate is, you know, in most drafts right now, I think he's the 102. 103 or 103 for most, yes. The number one wide receiver taken on this year. Oh, man. Because the guy has both of those. I'm looking at his team. I'm like, man, would I rather just have the short thing, you know, the 102 pick and Tate or the chance for?

the one-on-one next year that that's a gambling man right there yeah that's a gambling man all right off of i g amelio ania dac or mahomes for a contender oh my gosh we have to ask this question um this this is our beloved art our golden child patrick mahomes what have you done to our boy i know what have you done um I'm still... Look at my boy. I'm still on the Patrick Mahomes side, and I have him ranked significantly lower than DAC in redraft right now. You know, coming off of the injury, I think he gets off to a slower start runs less. He was running a ton this year, which was helping him for fantasy. You have a like three and a half year age gap here, but you also have a...

a talent gap. Like, DAC is very good. Dak is not Mahomes. I think if you tell me Dak starts fading away at 34 or 35. So, Dak right now, he'll be 33 soon and then Mahomes will turn 31 this year. Yeah. Hey, Kyle, how many years in a row has Dak scored Patrick Mahomes in fantasy football? Oh my gosh. Is it three? Are you going to? I don't know. This is not a gotcha. It's probably this is a real question. I can tell you, uh, Kyle look up, Dak. The last three years from the Holmes, he's been the quarterback 8, 11 and 11. However, this last year, he was. Oh, he was great. He was on fire. He finished his 11 because he didn't finish the season. On a per game basis, though, he had to have been outscoring deck. Oh, man. All right, Kyle, you looked that up. We'll come back to it. Off of the website, Shane in Seattle. Let's see. So, oh, we got it. Deck had the injured year in 24. So two of the last three.

But not really, because this last year, on a per game basis, on a per game basis, Mahomes was outscoring him, the last two years. Yes. Yeah, he was. I hate that. I would still approve. I hate that. We even have to ask that question. I think if you look at like, who has the chance to be the quarterback one over the next five years? You know, I brought this up with five is long. Let's join that. No, but the reason I say five is I've brought this up with Mahomes in the past. Like I don't love his weapons right now. Kelsey's getting older. They didn't really go out and get a new guy in the draft. You look at Tom Brady, an all-time go, a guy that's going to go down as first ballot blind Hall of Fame type of quarterback in Mahomes. Tom Brady wasn't always great for fans. He was always fine. But then he would have his years where he won you.

championships. And I think that's still in the cards for Mahomes. Mahomes might play to 40 and end up having an overall quarterback one. I don't think DAC has, you know, that can be the quarterback five this year and the quarterback five next year and then get and then start fading into oblivion. I, you know, that's kind of my outlook. So from a dynasty perspective, I would still prefer. I think Dak can be QB one this year. You give an actual full year of both CD and George are healthy. I mean, it's... They did improve their defense, I think, significantly. Yeah, sadly. They're still, they're going to air it out with those two guys. Let's see. From the website, Shane in Seattle, I was offered Teteroa McMillan for Drake London. I love both of these guys. I would much rather have Drake London. Okay. I wasn't, we had...

had some discussions about McMillan. I wasn't sure if you were had moved T-Mac over London. No, I haven't. Drake London's so good. Their age is a year apart. This isn't, you know, it's not the widest gap. I think, you know, what we saw with Drake London with Pinnock when Pinnock was playing, and we don't know that Pinnock is even going to be the quarterback, but presumably he's still there. So if he's not the quarterback, it's because they think it's. an upgraded option. What we saw with Drake London with Pennix was outstanding for fantasy. Bryce Young has to level up. Yes, he does. As I said, he narrowly threw 3,000 yards. Yes, Bryce Young, like the idea that he's going to throw 4,000 yards seems like a really, a really bad bet. He, I mean, maybe, but that would take a complete level up for him. Yeah. And so therefore,

Tetero McMillan, who is awesome, I think has a harder path to be, you know, a top five fantasy wide receiver. And Drake London, he will be getting the bag very, very soon. Yeah. So, oh, so he's in, he'll be in his year five. Yeah, it's in the fifth year option. Yeah, he'll get this year. The bag is on the way for Drake London. All right. Last question here. I think this is a very fun one off of Twitter from Dave. trade away Brian Thomas Jr. for Luther Burden. The guy who has done it and then was terrible for the guy who was very slow and then had moments where you're like, that dude is the guy. They share a lot in common in the sense that we've seen both guys be incredible on the field. I also think that the biggest problem for both players.

is target competition right like you know you you've got a lot of mouths to feed in both places but man luther burdon's film was so fun to watch this is a hard one i believe right now that And this is not saying Lutherburn is bad. I just think he is being overvalued. Could be. It's very it. It is very it is so heavy on a yes right now for him. Like where he's being drafted is is so heavy on the yes side that I think it's probably not the same odds that he does hit. And the exact opposite is true for for Brian Thomas. Okay. He's being drafted so low that like like he's dead. And I think it's I think those are two.

over exaggerated i would take brian thomas jr but i'm very curious your answer i think i'm taking burden yeah that's why this is such a good that's a difficult question i want to pull the deucers on this one yes i just want to know yeah matt now mad just said man's answer was no all right go to the deucer cam go to the deucer cam we'll start with jeremy to give matt more time would be b t j for all right same for me Oh, I'll go burden then. Yeah, yeah, the burden boys. All right, all right. He's going to be so good. All right, that's going to do it for today's edition of the Fantasy Footballer Show. Thank you for joining us for Dynasty Week. One more time, we'll tell you, there is a giveaway going on right now, a James Cook signed jersey. All you have to do is what you're going to do, which is pre-order the UDK, lowest possible price. That comes out.

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