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Fantasy Football 2018 - More Free Agent Madness, Key Questions for 2018

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That tells you they're not committed to giving him a roster spot. Correct. I mean, a good example at the top is the whole point of the Kirk Cousins deal is every dollar is guaranteed to Kirk Cousins. That's what attracted him to that offer over maybe anything else. If the NFL went to fully guaranteed deals, you would see smaller deals. That's what you would see. It's shorter, hopefully. Yeah, I mean, the total money would come down if you were guaranteeing the whole deal. Because you have to account for risk. I mean, there's a risk.

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component to it. All right, here's a question. Is Keel and Cole? This one comes in from Ethan in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Is Keel and Cole better than Marquis Lee and Dede Westbrook? He ended the season leading the Jags with 748 yards receiving, specifically in a PPR league. With much fewer snaps as well. He didn't have a huge snap percentage. Keel and Cole passes the eyeball test, passes the stat test, and might not play.

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Unfortunately, Keith and Cole, his best comp is what Willie Sneed did with New Orleans a couple of years ago. Undrafted player came in and made a splash, but you have to follow the money. Again, D.D. Westbrook, high draft capital investment and monetary investment, just re-signed Marquis Lee and then just paid Dante Moncrief a ton of money. And I love Keel and Cole. I have all my team. I want him to be great. He's not going to be great. Did you see that Dante Moncrief's entire contract was guaranteed?

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I saw that earlier on the show when I brought it up. Incredible. We're saying it twice. But it was... So I did see that, though. Keel and Cole, as soon as all the wide receivers were healthy in Jacksonville, and by that, I mean, Alan Hearns, Lee, and Westbrook, Keel and Cole was relegated to the bench. If you look at playoff snaps, Keel and Cole had 33% of the snaps compared to...

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the other players. And Alan Hurons are still on the roster right now. There is not a guarantee that Alan Hurons is cut. And if he's not cut, he'll be shocked. He'll likely be restructured, but he will play. They invested big money into Alan Hurons. So if he's on the roster, he will play. Yes. So there are a lot of people out of Jacksonville that don't think he's going to be cut. It's not like they don't have money. So that's just the perspective that I've heard. We'll see. All right, Ryan, in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

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Hey, footballers, is there a rule of thumb for how long you hold on to a high upside sleeper drafted in the later rounds? I drafted Kamara in the 15th round and dropped him week three before he was involved to pick up who even cares now. Great job on the show, fellas. Keep up the awesome work. Ryan, I'm sorry. Yeah, sorry, Ryan. I feel like we had a similar question a couple weeks ago. But it's case by case and you cannot beat yourself your shelf up on Alvin Kamara. It was the trade of Adrian Peterson.

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That's what opened everything up. And if you could have foreseen that coming, then you are some kind of psychic and you should be... Go to Vegas. Yeah, you should be investing elsewhere than patting that bank account. But probably a little bit... If you're going to hold on to these guys, you just have to make a commitment that you're going to hold them five weeks and see what happens. Usually when I draft a guy towards the end of...

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you know, the fantasy rounds, what I'm looking for is a specific type of hold. So come into week one. When I finish week one in the NFL, I know I'm going to be cutting people. I know that for sure because the waivers week one are incredible. So I will usually be drafting a guy that I say there's a chance he comes out and is the starter or surprises with carries. And if he doesn't, I cut him. But if you're talking about a guy like a rookie,

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Like in Alvin Camara, usually when I draft that guy, I'm not so quick to just get rid of him because rookies tend to taper up a little bit, you know, get carries more and more. They earn time. It's like Jeremy Hill. The year of Jeremy Hill, I just was so convinced that Jeremy Hill could take the job from Geo Bernard at being a second round pick. He didn't exactly take the job. Geo got hurt. But I had made the commitment because the Bengals made a second round commitment.

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to hold Jeremy Hill, if the whole year, if I had to do that. So that's what you kind of have to look at is make a decision on the player, what you think the upside is, what you think the team invested into them and just say, I'm going to hold it out as long as I can. And you don't want to draft too many of those same type of people because you will need roster spots. Are these nick, is this a nickname, Brooks that you put in here?

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Avery and San Rafael. Brooks? Are you there? Yes, I had to pull it up to see. Okay, Avery and San Rafael, you don't have the, you don't have the show up during the show there, Brooks. They're just recommending a nickname here. He's playing Minesweeeper right now. Titty and the Jets. That would be good if he wasn't the third string quarterback. No, that's with the three to T to T. Oh, one Tee for each spot on the bench. Mike's trying it out. It's, I mean, it's obvious. I've seen other people talking about it. So that's, that would not be a.

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Not as original. No. It's still pretty good. Oh, it's fun to do. Daddy. Yeah, it's pretty nice. But I don't think that we're going to have many reasons to talk about them this year, unfortunately. Probably not. At Dana Boy 7 off of Twitter. When is your way too early mock draft coming up? Soon. It is this week. Is it this week? It is. It is Thursday. Oh, my goodness. It is. Oh, yeah. Mock draft. Mock draft. The past trolls of the year.

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Come on, Andy. Oh, man. Dad. I think you should be excited. I just didn't get into the song. That's where you felt. I didn't feel it. I didn't follow the. The people felt it. Oh, I felt the heck out of that. Brooks, can we get a ruling from Judge Giamatti on that mock draft impromptu song? Amazing, guys. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. I'm just happy Brooks answered.

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I don't know what he's doing over there. He clicked on a mine. Was it a mine sweeper? Oh, man. All right. Sandy B and Glendale, Arizona. Wait, wait, hold on. Who's this from? Sandy B. Oh, okay. Sandy Biscuits? Oh, maybe. I see. I just moved to Arizona. I'm wondering if you guys know a good hospital. Yep, that's him. Because let's be honest. I'm going to need one. Thanks from Sammy. Sounds like someone got one over on Andy here. Yeah, I would say that was.

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Also Brooks that got one over on me, considering he put this together. The Mayo Clinic is here. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to do some good work for you. That dry air. Sam Bradford, you'll be just fine. We will make sure you play at least eight. Games? I'm not going to specify. You're just going to say eight? Snaps? Snaps, quarters, games. The number eight. Yeah. Well, at least he made $40 million. All right. All right.

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Jim Sanford off of Twitter, which Vikings player will be the best value in the draft? That's a good question. The best overall value in Minnesota, that might be, I would say I got two candidates. I got a big one and a little one. Big candidate, I think it might be Stefan Diggs. Because, again, I'm wanting to take the lowest draft capital choice on that wide receiver core because you've got a new quarterback coming in, and I just think.

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Hey, maybe he latches onto Diggs and you get a better value. The other one would be Kyle Rudolph. Even though I still think his ceiling is fairly capped, you get him for practically free after last year. What about Laquan Treadwell? Jarius Wright is gone. He was improving in playtime. It's possible.

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What's a value? Isn't a value a player you will play on your fantasy team? Because that's just not what like Quintraudwell will be. I still believe that the best jersey up on the wall today. There you go. Perfect timing. I still believe that the best value will be Adam Thielen, even if he is going ahead of Stefan Diggs. Because look, I mean, Adam Thielen has performed at a top 10 wide receiver level right now post the Kirk trade. I tried to look at that post-Kirk trade. It looks like he's still third round.

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If he does what, you know, he did for a majority of last season, that's going to be a value. All right. We're going to close it out here with a question from Michael O'Malley. How will Pat Mahomes affect Casey's numbers trending up or down? So we're talking Tyree Kill, Travis Kelsey, Sammy Walker's Cream Hunt. Pat Mahomes. Patty Mahomes. Patty mayonnaise. That's what I call him. I call him Patty mayonnaise. What?

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All right. It's more of a thing between friends. Yeah, I suppose. If I have to pick up or down comparatively to what Alex Smith did last year, then I have to say down. Yeah, you have to go down considering Alex Smith had one of the best years of his entire career. And there was a ton of fantasy relevance there. I believe it will be down from last season. You've still got. Travis Kelsey, who I really like Mahomes.

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I think I like him as much as you do, Andy, as far as a prospect. But he is still coming into his first season playing. And, you know, there's going to be some time to learn and, you know, some issues there. It's very rare for a first year quarterback to just come in and light the world on fire. Does he throw for 4,000 yards in Andy Reed's offense with Watkins, Hill, Hunt, and Kelsey? Because last year, Alex Smith.

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threw for 4,042 yards. I believe it was the first time in Kansas City. Yeah, thrown for 4,000 yards. I'm just curious, does Pat Mahomes throw for 4,000 yards? I actually statted out Pat Mahomes the other day, and I put him just over 4,000. It did cross the floor. Oh, yeah. There you go. But the touchdowns, I think, are going to be down from what Alex Smith was doing last year, and that's where the fantasy production really comes from. And, look, granted, we are talking about a very different time in football.

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because the rules are for passing. It's a lot easier now. But Donovan McNabb never threw for over 4,000 yards. That's an Andy Reed-led quarterback, yes. Yeah. Yeah. And you're right. Times have changed. Yeah. So if McNab... Four thousand is a lot, though, especially for a rookie. That's why I ask the question. I'm not guaranteeing Pat my home source for 4,000. I would take the under of 4,000. Yeah. It'll be very interesting. I mean, they obviously are putting...

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He's in a very enviable position as a young quarterback. Can you imagine a situation better for somebody coming into the league with a quarterback guru of a coach and then having above average skill position players at every turn? The only thing that would be better for Pat Mahomes would be if he had Kansas City's defense from last year. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why 4,000. Not for fantasy. Yeah, I'm not talking about fantasy. I'm talking about Pat Mahomes.

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coming into the league, your first year of really playing. You are in a plush position. All right. Thank you for tuning into this episode of the Fantasy Footballers Bycast. We always appreciate your reviews. Apparently we're mock drafting. We are mock drafting on Thursday. And always check out draft.com slash ballers. That's where we play best ball. All offseason long. That's where we play DFSN season draft.com slash ballers. Thanks for tuning in again. We'll catch you on Thursday. Goodbye. Goodbye.

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