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Trade Betrayals, Film Standouts + Major FF Questions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/7

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Trade Betrayals, Film Standouts + Major FF Questions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/7

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But I think DJ more on film is outstanding. Debo Samuel. Yeah, Debo was a name that came to mind for sure as much as it hurts. Does it? Well, a little bit. It hurts you? It hurts a little bit because. The wound hasn't closed? The wound is, it's just a scar now. Is it? You know, it's proof that it happened. Right. But it's healed. I, you know, I'd love to have some Debo Samuel on my team. But, yeah, it's just because.

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I just didn't believe it. And that's why. It's like you watch and he, you just don't think he can constantly keep breaking all the tackles. As you say, that's a, that's a big scar because he twisted the knife. Right. Week after week. That's right. The handle eventually got all the way. Is there? There's some handle in there. Twitter question from football guy. Win our podcast three times a week. Great question. I thought they started in June.

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Well, they do start in June, actually, in January for anyone who is a supporter at join the foot.com. We do our footcast every Thursday. However, our main show, the one you're listening to right now, goes three times a week in July, and then five times in August all the way through the end of the NFL season. I used to say through December, but now we've got more weeks. The NFL soon will, basically, Foot Clan, it's going to be five days a week.

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year round in about three more years. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Instagram question from Matt Dane. Terry McLaren or Mike Williams in a dynasty league. McLaren is 26.7 years old. Big Mike, 27.7. This one is not close for me. It is not close for me, and I'm sure we're on the same side. Yeah, it's Mike Williams. 100%. You're attached to a top three quarterback, top five quarterback in the NFL. And you're paid. And you're paid.

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Now, I expect Terry McLaurin to get the bag this off season. So by the time, you know, Dynasty Startup drafts are happening late September, I think both of these guys will have long-term contracts. But as of right now, Mike Williams has one, and Terry McLaurin does not. You do a lot of Dynasty Startup drafts late September? Yeah, there's plenty.

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Wait, late September, is that what I said? You were doubling down. You're a big week, three, week four guy. I thought you were pointing out like, you know, a lot of dynasty goes on like now. I thought I was learning something new. I'm like, is that when the dynasty startups happened? No, okay. That's fair. That's fair. Late August, early September. I'm in on that. All right.

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All right. There is a follow up on Mike Williams for Dynasty. Is this right now peak value for Mike Williams? I don't think so either. I don't think so. I mean, all three of us independently statted him as the wide receiver won, the redraft player that you would rather have over Keenan Allen, which I think is a little spicy, right? Keenan Allen's always a top 15 wide receiver. He's great. He's going to lead the team in targets. But Mike Williams type of target.

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And ability in the red zone is so much higher that Mike Williams to me is the wide receiver that I want from this team. And I want receivers from bigger. Let me look back. I wanted to look at the Des Bryant touchdown totals from 2012 to 2014, 12, 13 and 16. 1,300 yards, 1,200 yards. I don't know if Mike Williams can quite hit.

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those levels, but it's within the range of outcomes for Mike Williams. If he's the number one target, especially maybe, you know, a year from now. So I think peak value potential, yeah, it could go up. Yeah, I mean, last year, five games inside, he was a top 10 wide receiver five different times. He has certainly boom, bust. Yeah, needs consistency. He can, he can disappear because of the type of game that he has. That being said,

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One of the things that I always try to remember is that outside of the absolute tip top, and I mean like top three, not like all wide receiver ones, like outside of, you know, Diggs and Cooper Cup and I don't even know if there's anyone else anymore, all wide receivers, well, Jefferson, all wide receivers are very inconsistent. They all, even the great ones, have a handful of really disappear games. So worry more about the peak.

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than the valleys with wide receivers. And Mike Williams' peak is awesome. Yeah, you know, his consistency on our website's at 52.9%. That's a B. That's a B. That's a percentage of games exceeding 10 and a half points. So he's a little more boom bust than you'd like, but he also has the boom. I mean, not every wide receiver has the boom. If you're, if you're... Do you have the boom? Oh, I got the boom. If your kid...

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brought home a report card. Yeah. Straight bees. Oh, I'd be thrilled. I'm thrilled. Oh, yeah. Good job. They're not going to Harvard. Let's just put it that way. Yeah. But that means they can get drafted number one overall. That's right. All right. Instagram question from Brian, Baconator. You're going to like this one, Jason. Baconator or Bacon Hater? No, Bacon Hater. Okay. I accept. Yep. No, that's fine. I was worried. Yeah, you would have turned the question down. Yes, that's correct. How'd you get into playing pickleball?

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Oh, great question. I told you you'd like it. It was Papa Skids. Yeah, my dad. Yeah. From years ago before it was cool. Yeah, when it was really just for all the old people. Now young people are like, man, I could do this. Pickleball's awesome. And Pickle's life and get into it. Yeah, we played it off and on.

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Definitely off in the summertime. Let me put it this way. Tennis is awesome, but you have to be in great shape to play tennis. You can't just walk in and play and be, you know, and then start getting better. So do pickleball. Forget the shape. Any shape will do. No, it's fine. It's a good time. We used to be flag football players. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Just saw that out there.

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We aged out. And then we aged out. Andy, do you want to play pickleball later today? Yes. All right. Let's do that. Okay. Yeah. Instagram question from chefster Mike. Oh, that's my nickname on the pickleball court. Chef Jason. Chef Jason. Yeah. I'm always in the kitchen. Yeah. Illegally. What do you think is the ceiling for J.K. Dobbins this year? Right now he's our consensus running back 20.

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So give me a singular number. The ceiling for J.K. Dobbins this year is the running back six. I'm not that high. I'd say 10. Sure. And I completely understand that. I think his ceiling is definitely top 10. He's on a run first offense that could be the offense that leads the entire NFL in rushing yards, rushing touchdowns. He's...

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The dude, we saw him in his rookie year, the back half of that, be a top 10 fantasy running back already. Obviously, terrible injury coming back, and usually it takes a little bit of time. So it's not perfect. He doesn't catch passes. If we're just talking sealing, though, sealing is he gets 12, 13 touchdowns, has enough involvement in the passing game, you know, 35 receptions or so. And he's just a really, really talented running back.

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I would have agreed with you heading into last year before the injury that RB6 would have been more realistic. I do think that there's a requirement here coming off of this injury, multiple players coming off of it, to distribute the load. I don't think you're going to see the level of work that Dobbins would have received last year this year. So that's why I'd move his ceiling back a little bit. I think you're probably right. As far as...

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what his probable outcome is. His probable outcome is not to have, you know, a massive workload that will allow him to reach that peak. Okay, here we go. Instagram from Matt says in a three wide receiver league, do you increase the value of wide receivers and buy how much? Yes, by three. I just wanted to give it like a, you know, a very...

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an easy number. And so now it's an easy answer. You know you increase. I'm pretty confused. Yeah. I mean, in three wide receiver leagues, the value of wide receivers goes way up. And the reason why is because of your flex position. I presume that in your three wide receiver, you still have a flex. And if you have a flex, that means that you've got basically so many more players.

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so many more players that have to be rostered, have to go into your starting lineup. And when you get down that far, wide receivers outscore running backs. They just do. And so you have more depth issues, more injury changes that you're going to need, buy weak players. Can we talk about this? Yeah, let's talk. I thought I was pretty sure that's what we're doing. No, no, we hadn't started yet. Okay, let's start. So I always, I struggle with this question.

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philosophically obviously if you have a three wide receiver league you have to play more wide receivers but there are so many more wide receivers they are so much easier to pick up off of the way of wired play matchups I mean we have a long history of finding you know the rant I mean the Travis Fulgums of the world surge into relevance for three or four weeks spans just based on injuries and things like that obviously in these leagues you also have the exact same level of scarcity at the running back position

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where just because there's more wide receivers that you have to start doesn't mean that those running back positions aren't still very valuable. So I guess I always, I never know exactly where to draw that line. And I don't know if it's as healthy for my team to go into the draft thinking I need more wide receivers. That's my point. I think that when you look at your roster at the end of your startup draft and, you know, usually in let's say it's a two wide receiver.

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two running back and a flex league. I want my bench, depending on how many it is, to be 50-50 running back wide receiver or heavy on the running back side. That just flips for me in a three-wide receiver league. I just want more options for matchups. You know, if you know you're probably starting four wide receivers, then you just, it's just simple math. You have to have more options, more matchups.

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and more depth there. So it's, you know, at the top of the draft. Does it change how you would treat the turn when we had that quick question earlier in the game? Yeah, I think the first, you know, six, seven, eight, nine picks, it doesn't really have an effect. I'm going to take the better running backs there. But if you have to start three wide receivers, that means that if you were to go wide receiver, wide receiver at the turn.

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and you have two of the best, you have a larger positional advantage because your next wide receiver you grab is going to be pretty much, that's your final starter, and you're just going to be way better than everybody there. When you're in that league and you compare yourself to the person that grabbed Christian McCaffrey at the 102, and then they come back and at the end of the second, they grab Mike Evans or something. If you go running back wide receiver,

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you're just basically at a disadvantage to that team. You now have the same positions as that other team, but they're not as powerful. If you go wide receiver, wide receiver, you have an advantage over that team. You just now have to, you know, it's a different strategy. My only two devil's advocate thoughts would be one, if everybody goes into the draft with that mentality, better running backs drop down the list a little bit.

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or maybe you have an opportunity to get a difference maker there. And two, I just plain feel way more confident drafting a eighth round wide receiver that I think can contribute to my team than I do picking up a James Cook or depth piece running back that I think might show up. Yeah, I mean. Some of it is just confidence in my own drafting abilities for those positions. It is funny. People are.

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genuinely good at certain scouting and bad at others. I mean, you have enough, like, um, evidence over years where it's like people in your only, you know the guy that's like, man, he always nails the wide receiver. You know, it's like he just always gets the right breakout wide receiver every single year. He kind of, uh, pegs that player. And so Andy, you know what you are better or worse at drafting historically or.

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at least how confident you feel in that. And that's part of when you're at the draft making those decisions. If you're good at getting middle tier wide receivers year after year after year, well then load up at running backs in the beginning and then stack your lineup with a bunch of middle round wide receivers. I also like, regardless of which direction you go, I like being in a draft where I don't feel like I've accidentally handcuffed myself.

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