The Fantasy Court + Rankings Debates - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/3

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Plaintiffs, Mike Wright and Jason Moore, are accusing Andy Holloway of identity theft by ranking Trevor Lawrence like a quarterback who's already been there and done that. Your Honor, you continue to smell very fresh. I just want to, I just want to put, is that a citrus? Is that a very fresh for the summertime? Your Honor, Trevor Lawrence was the number one overall pick for good reason. He's called the best prospect since Andrew Luck.

But he was the number one pick for a reason because the Jacksonville Jaguars stink. They had to clear house and they brought in a whole new cast of characters, including head coach Urban Meyer. And Urban Myers walking in like a fresh face thinking, you know, whatever I did in college, that's certainly going to work at the pro level. We've seen that work out several times before when these college coaches think they can.

Don't say Chip Kelly. There is a huge laundry list of college coaches you can point to who have tucked tailed and ran back to the safety of the NCAA after just a few seasons. Urban Meyer loves gadget plays. He loves screens. He loves RPO's. Is that going to turn into fantasy gold for Mr. Trevor Lawrence? I do not believe it will.

And look at the surrounding cast. It's been said, well, we think that perhaps he has some good weapons. The defendant himself has spent an entire offseason besmirching the name of DJ Chark, who is slotted to be the number one wide receiver for this team. Marvin Jones.

Marvin Jones is about to sign up for his AARP card because the man is 72 years old. And then you have Loviska Chanel who's out there doing his best Percy Harvin impression. That doesn't turn into fantasy success for a quarterback. And let's look at the rookies who have actually succeeded in the past eight years. In the last eight years, we've seen four rookie quarterbacks finish his top 15 options. But they're all padded. Not by passing touchdowns.

but by rushing touchdowns. Jamis had six as a rookie. Dak had six as a rookie. Kyler four and Justin Herbert himself. The only way that Justin Herbert actually saved himself by finishing so high was 234 carries and five rushing touchdowns. Yes, Your Honor, Trevor Lawrence, he has some wheels. But in two of his three seasons as a college quarterback, he finished with under 200 rushing yards.

I am not going to place my wagers in fantasy football on the fact that Trevor Lawrence will somehow end up with five or more rushing touchdowns. He's a fine player. I can't wait to see him perform on the field, but, Your Honor, Fantasy gold is not in the cards for this season. Hmm. Hmm. For shizzle. The defendant is reeling. Your honor. Oh, no. What is this, Atticus Finch? Can I interest you? Where is this the colonel?

In giving a second glance at a young man that is six foot, five inches tall, has a history of success at every level, despite the high expectations he walked into. One that is competitive and intelligent and a born leader with legs capable of extending a play into the land of bonus fantasy points. Are those chicken legs? Your honor, look past the external appearance. The teal, golden black epidermis.

And look into the heart of a man who has dominated his opponents since birth. His golden locks free flown in the wind as his golden arm eviscerates his opponents. I will give you 943 reasons why this fantasy value has a chance to materialize. Because he ran for 9443 yards and 18 touchdowns at Clemson, where I harkened from. 90 touchdowns, 17 interceptions through the air should make your honor weaken the knees.

He joins the professional level with the talent that the prosecutor brought up, the juniors, DJ, Marvin, Leviska. Yes, I know he was playing against your beloved Cowboys to end the preseason, but he went 11 for 12, carved him up, 139 and 2, including a... Carved him like a fresh chicken covered in herbs and spices. Including a footwork, extraordinary precision pass to Leviska Chanel.

For a touchdown that reminded me of Aaron Rogers, a simple arm flick after some nifty footwork for a six-point salad. Fantasy players, yeah, that's right, of six-point salad. There's no salads in here. It's a salad. Look, fantasy players should give this man a chance. Take him late in drafts just in case. And I'll be surprised when he makes you forget that Urban Meyer is his coach. These hooligans, I'm talking to you two.

Guilty. These two hooligans have Trevor Lawrence outside their top 20, which betrays a precedent set by every number one pick over the last 10 years. Your Honor, here are the fantasy finishes for every rookie quarterback drafted number one that played a full season. Objection. I don't want to hear this argument. 7, 13, 8, and 4. When they go start to finish, they finish inside the top 13. Lawrence is being forgotten, but please write this wrong.

Also bless your heart. I rest my case. All right. The court rules in favor of the plaintiff. Oh, yes. I'm surprised. I thought that last, I think it was the accent. I think, uh, look, it was, I didn't, I didn't really follow. I was just so enthralled with Kentucky fried chicken. Once you brought up the colonel, I was, I was at KFC, but.

The last numbers you brought up, just talking fantasy football, are actually pretty convicting in the sense that that number one pick when they play the full season, they do outperform where we have them ranked right now. And he does have some wheels. What's funny is he? I made a note. I'm going to move Lawrence up. Yeah. The player I left off of there, so the four that I mentioned, they played 16 full games. So they were 7, 13, 8, and 4. But Baker actually, per game, 5th.

the mold as well. He just came in in game three. So I didn't count him. But, uh, yeah, I mean, I got him at 16. I feel good about that. Now I'm, now I can't let the accident go. All I know is, uh, I don't know how to get out of this. How do I get out of this? All right. Uh, you guys want to do some mail bag? Show. Mail bag. It's Friday, man. Yeah. We're mailing it in. I was going to say it definitely feels like Friday. That was a shoe. Shoot.

All right, into the mailbag we go. If you have a question, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com, click the submit a question button or dial the voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. We actually have a voicemail today, Brooks? Yes, sir. Let's hit it. Hey, Amigo, Ticketie from the Steel City, aka Pittsburgh. What are three DSTs that you're targeting with a great week one matchup? Thanks, hands, guys. Peace.

Yeah. Did he say chickadee? Yeah. Did I catch that right? Tuned out on purpose. San Francisco is one that I've targeted. That's the number one target. I also, I like New England. I like New England at home against Miami. What's the other one? Denver maybe. There's three that I've been getting with regularity. You named two of them. San Francisco opens with just such a great schedule and they're a good defense. But Minnesota is another one that is you can get them in every draft. I mean.

Pretty much they usually go undrafted or they're drafted at like the 10th, 11th, 12th defense off the board. I expect their defense under Zimmer to be a much, much improved defense this year. And you're starting the year against Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals in his first action, real, real action back from that horrific knee injury. So, yeah, I'm down with that. And if you want to join me in the dumpster.

where I am currently slated in our league of record, I drafted as I think I grabbed the last DST available. The Carolina Panthers, not necessarily a defense that inspires fear for an offense, but they're at home and they are against the Jets. Maybe Zach Wilson is great, but I will bet against that rookie quarterback making his first start on the road. It's funny how...

week one, it is so difficult to play a defense that is perceived bad. But week three, when we're streaming the position, I don't care who the, like, you can play a bad defense against a horrific offense. You know, so, you know, like, that's what scares me about Minnesota is like, we hope that they're better this year. But last year they were atrocious. They were like, they gave up the fourth most passing yards in the league. And it was like,

Are you that confident that Burroughs are going to struggle in week one? I am more confident in, I am more confident in Minnesota being a good defense than I am in Cincinnati being a bad offense. So it's actually the other side of the argument. But what about like, would you play the Jaguars defense against the Texans? I mean, all the arguments Mike made are pretty fair about the Texans being a, on a bad train. I doubt I would do that. But yeah, I get it.

We do. I don't think it deserves the button, but a little bit of breaking news. The Raiders, they're at it again. Another running back? Another running back. They took Peyton Barber off the Washington practice squad. They're always on the hunt. Gruden loves running backs. Yeah. Except, you know, like the really good ones. He doesn't like to play them all the time. All right. Kevin and Michigan, are we sleeping on James Winston? The last time he was a starter, he was a top three option, but he seems buried on consensus rankings. What am I missing?

You're missing what James is Winsting, which is Mike? Winsting? That was a good one. That was. But Mike Evans is missing. Yeah. Chris Godwin is missing. Yep. And Michael Thomas is missing. Yep. The most important thing. Bruce Ariens is missing. Yeah. I mean, he was, he never had a fantasy finish of relevance at all until he was chucking it like a wild man under Bruce Ariens. Yes. And, uh, what, 30 interceptions?

That sounds like a joke now. That he threw 30? Yeah, I was like, am I lying? It was 30, right? Yep. He was in the 30 for 30 club. And now the team he's on now, he's missing Michael Thomas for the first six weeks. Yes, that is still true. So you guys say that. Yeah, we did. Thank you, Judge. Yeah. Oh, I like that he jumped in. They just don't like that. He said the same thing. Is this how you were listening when I gave my argument? The rulings are final. I got to take it up to the Supreme Court.

I just want to see this lawyer room. I want to know how decked out that lawyer room is. A lot of mahogany. Okay. Christopher in Palm Bay, Florida. Should I feel like an idiot for stacking Seahawks wide receivers? Standard six-point touchdown league talking Lockett and Metcalf. I mean, your upside on any given week is tremendous, but your downside of...

I love the value of Tyler Lockett in the fifth round, but we've seen so many times where Russell Wilson and the passing offense vanishes for half a season. And if you are locked into that and it happens again, that will be a big problem. But in the range of outcomes is they don't vanish for half a season and they're great all year long and then you're solid. But that's very volatile.

Do you realize what they did? If you want a bad sign for the passing game in Seattle, did you see what their 53-man cuts look like? I did not. They kept four wide receivers total. So Metcalf, Lockett, Swain, and Eskridge, right? They kept, instead of another wide receiver, five running backs. Carson, Penny, Alex Collins, DJ Dallas, Travis Homer. It was like, it was shocking because they could have let.