Mid-Round Madness + Camp Hype, Bear Toes - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/3

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Two names to bring to light here on today's episode. We'd love to hear from you on Twitter, YouTube, wherever you're listening. If you agree with these names, if you disagree, don't comment. But no, I'm kidding. All right, here we go. I'm going to start. AJ Green. Sorry, that's not mid-round. That's not mid-rounds. It's not borderline undrafted madness. I'm going to start right here. Oh.

Debo Samuel. We're bringing it back. I'm bringing Devo back, baby. Especially after that comment he made about Trey Lance's abilities. Oh, yes. He's got balls. Mm. Mm. Thank you, Debo. Deep balls. All right. Debo Samuel is my first mid-round madness pick. Depending on where you're checking ADP, he's somewhere in the late seventh, early eighth round. And I brought him up before early in the off season.

Look, the key for Debo Samuel is health. Why do I like him? I like him because he's a better value in drafts than Brandon Ayyuk. And I believe he is a valuable game scripted piece of the offense. When all things are equal in this offense.

I believe that Kyle Shanahan has displayed a trust of Debo Samuel. He has also built game plans around him. And when he's on the field, when he plays 70 plus percent of snaps, he has been double-digit fantasy points-wise 11 out of the last 13 games he's played. That's 85% of the time. That is rock solid. And so when I look at Debo and I see mid-round...

value late 7th, early 8th, instead of a fifth round pick on Brandon Ayyuk. To me, that jumps off the page. Both players were injured last year. Brandon Ayuk missed some time. Debo missed more time. Obviously, Kittle and the entire offense missed time. But the plan for Debo Samuel for your fantasy team is that you are drafting somebody that when he's healthy, you can start. That is what I believe about Debo Samma. You can put him in your starting lineup, and he's a seventh round pick, eighth round pick.

So let me ask you guys, though, based on that, I guess, analysis, Debo or some of these other names that are similar in ADP, Debo or Juju? We talked about him yesterday. Who would you take? Debo. Agreed. What about Devanta Smith with the MCL news and not knowing when he'll get acclimated?

Yeah, if you would ask me a week ago, I might have gone Devante Smith. But with the MCL, I would be forced to go, you know, I want to stay away from injury. So I'll go Debo. All right, who is healthy. And if you look at the camp reports right now, targets have been dominated by Debo and Iuke. So they've basically both led camp and targets. And then the next highest target is down at, you know, they're both at like 13, 14 in camp practices.

Next one's down. George Kittle, not impressing at camp. Are we concerned? No. You want to know why? Because he's also a man. Yes. All right, real quick. Jerry, Judy or Debo? Debo. Yeah, all right. And then we'll make the transition here. Debo or Robbie Anderson? I'm going Robbie Anderson, but these guys are back to back. And we don't care about Mike's opinion. Right. These guys are back to back.

And Robbie Anderson is my mid-round madness pick. Ooh, back to back. And they're going back to back in the draft. And the way that I see these two guys is really upside versus safety.

Debo Samuel has, you know, the upside, the swing for the fences. If you went safe in those early rounds, then maybe you would go with Debo here. If you ended up drafting CD Lamb or Terry McClure kind of swinging for the fences early, then grab Robbie Anderson in the seventh round because he is extremely safe and extremely mispriced because there's this thought that, you know. Sam Darnold is bad?

Sure, there's a thought that Sam Donald's bad. Sam Donald might be as bad as Teddy Bridgewater was last year. They were basically just like each other. They threw the ball short. They didn't throw a lot of touchdowns. So, I mean, that, you know, his range of outcomes is, you know, I think very, very good. Here's my argument for Robbie Anderson. This is a player that got 136 targets, 1,100 yards, but only scored three touchdowns.

I mean, 95 receptions and 1,100 yards. Yeah, that's wild. Think about how safe Robert Woods feels. When you're early in your draft, and I want to make sure I'm protecting. I love that comparison. Robert Woods had fewer targets, 129, fewer receptions, 90, only 936 yards versus Robbie Anderson smoking those numbers, but he only had three touchdowns, which is absolutely an outlier when you look at yards per touchdowns. He should have.

been more around six, seven touchdowns. If it comes up to five, you're happy. I mean, like Robert Woods, he's not a touchdown guy, and you feel safe, but you pay a lot more for Woods. You lose Curtis Samuel, and yes, you got Terrace Marshall coming to town, but I don't think Terrace Marshall is going to be...

Twice what Curtis Samuel was. Curtis Samuel was great. You also have him, Mike, you brought up. He's reunited with his college coach. That's true. They plugged him in and did a lot more with Robbie last year. Now he's reunited with his quarterback that he had some great production with in Sam Darnold. So the combination of the fact that you've got a guy with that much volume with a coach who knows how to use him and a quarterback that he is friends with.

At this value in the seventh round, I mean, over the last five years, the wide receiver 34, which is where he's being drafted, averages between 133 and 155 fantasy points. If Robbie Anderson loses 15 receptions from last year, loses 100 yards, and finishes with only five touchdowns, he would be basically the wide receiver 24. He would outperform that if he sucks from last year. What if he just...

does what he did last year and maybe scores an average amount of touchdowns. He's like wide receiver 15, and you're getting him in the seventh round. I think he is just about as safe as it comes for this area in your draft, and I grab him. I mean, you've seen the mock drafts. I literally grab him every time I can't. It's funny, and Mike, I want to know since they're back-to-back in drafts and we each picked one of them, I would love to know who you would select. I know from having Robbie last year, the lack of touchdowns was tough.

Like he had two games inside the top 20 after week one. That was tough because you just kept waiting for that touchdown. But the volume numbers Jason brings up, they're tremendous. In fact, I hate to do this, but like your argument for Robbie, like, do you have DJ Moore or Robbie ranked higher? I have DJ Moore ranked slightly higher. So you're looking at Robbie. Would you consider him the wide receiver two for that team? I consider him the wide receiver one for the team because I look at wide receiver one as target volume.

But for fantasy purposes, wide receiver two. Yeah. And so, Mike, who do you think? I mean, Christian McCaffrey's coming back, but Curtis Samuel left. Yeah, the Christian McCaffrey point is valid, although Mike Davis saw a whole bunch of targets in replacement at the running back position. And, I mean, funny enough, my projections are wide receiver 31, Robbie Anderson, wide receiver 32, Debo Samuel. Aha! So.

projections wise, I've got Robbie clearly in the lead here by probably like half a point or so. So it'll come down to roster construction. I mean, I think that the ceiling is higher for Debo. I'm projecting that Brandon Iuke is the guy for San Francisco, but leave a little bit of room for that to be an incorrect assumption for the team. And if Debo comes back and he is the number one guy, he would be more valuable than.

Robbie Anderson, who I consider Robbie Anderson, the wide receiver two of the team, even though he gets more targets. Last year on this show, a couple of our mid-round madness picks. Kareem Hunt in the late 5th, ended up the RB10, Ronald Jones in the 6th, ended up the RB 16, and then...

This next guy. Oh, he's back? He was in last year, too. He was in last years because this is where he lives. Yeah. What are we doing? And he finished as the wide receiver nine, Mike. Take it away. It's Tyler Lockett, people, wide receiver from the Seattle Seahawks over the last three years.

We have seen Tyler Lockett get better every single year. In terms of receptions and targets, he went from 57 to 82 to 100. Tyler Lockett had 100 receptions last year, and here he is in the back of the fifth round. He has had double-digit touchdowns in two of the last three years. And the one he didn't hit 10, he hit eight. Pathetic. He is a sensational player. And in those three seasons,

Russell Wilson is averaging 35 passing touchdowns a year. Russ, even if the passing volume goes down, is an efficient touchdown thrower. And Tyler Lockett is a huge benefactor for that. Tyler Lockett actually saw more targets than Metcalfe if you want to go, Jason, with the 132. Is Tyler Lockett the number one wide receiver for Seattle? The number one target. Yes.

It's similar. It's similar, right? They are more targeted, but the less explosive athlete. I agree with that. You want to talk about end zone targets. You know, D.K. Metcalf, he lives there. Both had 14 end zone targets. I mean, the disparity between Tyler Lockett's ADP and DK Metcalf's ADP is out of control to me. And yes, consistency of Tyler Lockett. It is a problem. I don't disagree.

with people talking about that. I don't disagree with us bringing it up all the time because over the second half, it was rough. It was also a little bit rough for DK Metcalf's fantasy value as well. But it's the fifth round. Think of that. This is your fifth starter. This is possibly your wide receiver three. You can go running back, running back, and three straight wide receivers, this is your third guy, and he has been a top 15 wide receiver each of the last three years. It's so...

interesting. There's almost no more interesting player than Tyler Lockett to me because, I mean, he was on the mid-round madness show last year. Fifth round pick, seventh pick of the fifth round last year. He produced his highest fantasy. Wait, the seventh pick? So he's going later this year? Yeah, that's my point. He goes 507, finishes ninth, goes 5'10. He's had three years in a row where his fantasy finish has gone up.

But I think it speaks to the burns. It speaks to the pain. It speaks to the, like, the week after week of leaving him, like he established himself in your roster. He basically spent the first, what was it, like, I don't know, six weeks. And he cemented, like literally cemented himself into your wide receiver spot where you couldn't pull him out. And that's, so the truth is, is that is an emotional reaction. The ADP is an emotional reaction.