Starts of the Week + Week 10 Breakdown, Loose Moose - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/7

all the, you know, all the hullabaloo I expect back. But either way, whether he's back and it's just those two because Stefan Diggs is gone, or whether he's the only guy like he was last week when he got nine targets and led the team in Target share and finally connected on a deep bomb 50-yarder, this is a team where you've got to throw the ball. Joe Mixon's going to have a tough time being the center of the offense against the Detroit Lions. They're the second highest opponent pass rate in the NFL. You have to throw on Detroit. The lion's secondary rank's 28th and schedule adjusted fantasy points allowed to wide receivers and wide receivers in the slot where Tank Dell is good from there as well. They give up a lot of points there. So I think in Detroit, temperature controlled environment, good game script for him. Tank Dell should be started. I mean, you've got to look at your options, but he's a good start. Did you just edge at the end?

A little, but my point, I'm just saying. You made this long, robust compelling, compelling argument. It was fully statistically based. It all made sense. It was, it was, you had convinced me. Well, here, now I'm out. No. No. And it's like, I'm looking at the other pieces on my team. My point is. Everybody was like putting them in the lineup. Now they're looking at the other options. You should put them in the lineup. If you've got, but look at the other pieces on your team. Just in case you don't want to do it. If you've got, you know, if you're making a decision between Devante Smith.

You know, or Tank Dell. Nobody's making that decision. Okay. Well, then we're good here. All right. All right. Who would you start? Genuine question. We got two starts of the week. And honestly, they're back to back in my ranking. Mooney. Tank Dell or darnel Mooney. Okay. So there's a, there's a situation where it's like, that's not an anti-tank Dell take. That's like, Mooney's just been unstoppable. We're just having fun. All right. My wide receiver start of the week. It's Joanne Jennings. What an idiot! Which, Andy, I will update you. Jennings and Samuel were listed as limited. Okay. It was not an out of practice. They are limited. Jennings, he hasn't played since week six. But when he's been on the field, like everything we wanted from Brandon Ayuk, it was like, seems like Jennings might be that guy. He's tied with Kiddle for the team lead. Percent of routes targeted 25%. It's a 51 point over under and Temp base secondary is allowing the most completions per game.

the second most fantasy points to outside wide receivers. Great matchup. I know that Christian McCaffrey is back, but I believe in the Brock Purdy start as well, and I just want pieces of this game. Well, I'm going to need to borrow a pair. Oh, brother, we got the blacksmith's working overtime this week. Is he? Which, let me, hold on. I'm going to look at, oh, second. Oh, yeah, you do. Premium underpants. Yes, you do. Oh, yes. I'm going to try a rookie tight end on for. for size along with those underpants. If you are not playing a top five tied in that you have confidence in, I think Theo Johnson is an interesting streaming candidate against Carolina. You know, Darius Slayton's dealing with the concussion. He has quietly ran the seventh most routes. Not quiet. I mean, that's a beast of a man out there. Theo Johnson for the Giants, 84% of snap, seventh most routes at the position, scored last week.

At least three receptions the last two weeks. I think the matchup is just glorious. The Carolina Panthers. It's about the matchup. They're dead last against tight ends. And they also give up touchdowns. Five in the last three weeks. So that's the play. It's a matchup play. I would jump in there versus trying to, a good example here. I would not try to play the roulette in New Orleans. Foster Mrow, Juan Johnson, Tays from Hill. I would actually go Theo Johnson. Really? Yeah. I think I'd go Tase him over. That's fine. But I like to play. It's like Dalton Schultz. If you've been rolling him out, pick up Theo Johnson. The match. He's so slow. The match was certainly there. I'm going to make T.J. Hawkinson my start of the week. I think you can put him in the lineup last week. We took a wait and see approach. First game back. Only played 45% of the snaps. He is a player that last year was often in the 80%, 90%. This is a full-time, you know, star tight end for their offense. They got him out in week one.

Let him play a little less than half the snaps. He looked good out there. I thought, you know, he was utilized well. He was targeted four times on 24 routes. I expect those numbers to come up this week. And the matchup, Mike, you talked about Jacksonville. Not good. Yeah. Well, guess what? Yeah. Not good against tight in. I know it's shocking. But since week three, they rank 30th and scheduled justice of fantasy points allowed two tight ends. Oh my goodness. What is happening? And we are down a deucer and deuce his alley. And the Falcon is. reported he's here the falcon has who's clinched deucers be deucin man this oh my god are you kidding me no i'm not papa josh the show is an hour long poopa josh how i mean this is a one hour podcast we just do it every day we even know the time during in season we have the exact me it's a scheduled hour let me ask you something how many shows have we done we've done one

We're on show 1,672. Between all shows, thousands. Did any of us, have any of the three of us ever had to go Falcon? Yes. One time. Yes. We didn't have to pause the show once. All right. But this is becoming a theme. And I don't know if we should have like a health kick for our deucers alley roll or spending our money on new breakfast every day. Yeah, they are. I've seen this. I could smell it this morning. Oh, the oatmeal smelled delicious. With a little extra fiber. It did not work well for Papa Josh, or it worked really well, depending on what your goals are. All right, Mike, Hunter Henry is your start of the week at tight end? Hold on. Do you need them? Yes. Steel underpants. Yes, I'm putting steel underpants on. Steel's layer one, but I don't think you need them. I don't think so either. I think you can rock Donald Duck style here. Well, he's the tight end eight on the year. I'm keeping him on. He's the tight end eight, and yet people.

Are people playing Hunter Henry? They're playing them over Theo. I know that. Look, and three Drake May starts a 21% target share averaging nearly six receptions per game. So like we got a lot of tight ends here on the buy Bowers, the Joku craft. We got to find options that we can play. And I think that Hunter Henry, there's a great chance that him and Theo are on your waiver wire. And I think that they're both in play. The Bears 23rd against. in schedule adjusted against the tight end position. Evan Angram, 10 receptions versus him in his first game back. Zach Ertz. The jackpot, Zach Ertz game, 7 for 77, was against the Bears. I'm putting Henry. Yeah, the Bears' defense, their passing defense is very, very good, and especially against wide receivers. And so if you are going to lock down Pop Douglas and, you know, whoever else, you know.

If Jaylon Polk's getting an opportunity. That's cute. The thought that we have to lock down Pop Douglas. My point is Hunter Henry is your primary outlet in this game. I like him as a start. By the way, Brooks, Brooksie pointing out that we don't even change the clocks here. This is not like their cycle. They're, their balance cycle over there. Welcome back. How are we doing it? You thought we wouldn't. I knew it. Of course you knew it. Take a dump, get dumped on on the show. I can tell you a tip because I know I don't know if this is like great for health or not. But no. You're allowed to hold it for like for like 45 more minutes. I already did that. I mean, I'm just saying I've done it so many times in my life where I feel my body and my body goes.

Oh, I think I could poop. But I'm like, but now's not the right time. I'm going to wait an hour. Not with these modern free bowel culture that we got. I would have an argument of when, when my body's like the, the, the rocket saw it. We're cleared for launch. I'm going. Like there's no hour holding. You are. Yeah. Yeah. I'm more of a loose moose. Oh, man. Next segment. Next segment. Go. It's time for Fantasy Forecast, presented by Draft King Sportsbook. Look, we don't want to talk about these things, but we are, in fact, an authority. Oh, we sure are. Okay. All right, we have three deucers, and we have, well, make it four with this London game, maybe. The New York Giants at 2 and 7 taken on the Chuba Hubbard-led Carolina Panthers. Take that London.

You'll watch this game and you'll like it. We're giving you our best. By the way, the Browns, Packers, Raiders, Seahawks on by. But London, it's a morning game. It's a 40 point over under according to DK Sportsbook, The Giants' six and a half point road favorites. I do love me some Giants defense. That is the go-to in this one. You know, Bryce Young has played better slightly. But there are still so many plays. He has. So many plays in a game where I feel like he has. you know, moved around in the pocket, set himself up, planted his feet, and thrown a just nasty football. And so the Giants defense is a great start here. Malik Neighbors, of course. Tyrone Tracy, of course. Mike, you brought him up. And his rushing line. Oh, that was what I was going to bring up. It's outrageous. On DK, it's 73.5 yards. That is awesome for a start of the weekend. You should not have traded him, Jason. I can see that. You have Hawkinson. You probably want to play Hawkinson.

And you traded Tracy for New Jersey. Yes, I did. But I got an upgraded pick swap as well in there. Hindsight being 20, I would rather have time around Tracy. He's been outstanding. He has taken over the role ahead of Devin Segal Terry. He's a great start this week against the Carolina Panthers because the Panthers, presumably they will be down in this game, which actually brings up to me. I think this is a good matchup for starts for the Giants. Not that anyone is. not starting Malik Neighbors, but Malik Neighbors has been down. I mean, week seven through nine, he's averaging under 10 fantasy points a game. It's been the wide receiver 43, 38, and 29. However, this is a get right week for him. The pass rush for the Panthers doesn't exist. When they blitz, they get after the quarterback like,

so far and away worst in the league behind second worst that Daniel Jones is actually going to have time in the pocket to find neighbors connect with some throws that are a little bit further down the field. Theo Johnson. Or Theo Johnson. But I do think. Or Wondale. I mean, Daniel Jones. Mike, he was your stream of the week. I was about, I ended up trading for Baker in our League of Record, but I. lost Dak Prescott and I have Gino on by and I'm looking at the waivers. I was going to start Daniel Jones this week. I think you can do it in this matchup against Carolina. So Chuba Hubbard, yes. If you took a shot on a wide receiver, it would be Xavier Legat? Yep, it's still him. And would you play Xavier Leagueette in this matchup or would you go to the newly not suspended Jameson Williams against Houston? Oh, I imagine I'd be playing Jameson. That's, that's, I think it's really, really close. I mean, Jameson. I think I'm going to get.

Jameson wasn't dealing with an injury, so you don't worry about reaggravation. This was a suspension. But Leggett has been, I've brought it up. He's basically been double digit fantasy points three of the last four weeks. Now those are on the backs of touchdowns, but at least he's being utilized and looked for in the red zone when he's a big body guy. Yeah, the last four games for like Jameson Williams came out the gates. It was like, hey, this is one of the steals of the draft, which. nine targets, 11 targets, but then it's three, two, four, and one. He's Jamison Williams, and so his calling card is the huge play. But if you're only getting three to four opportunities a week, your consistency of hitting that is going to be lower. Did you realize there are seven teams tied at two and seven for the number one pick right now? I did not. Wow. There are seven teams that are two and seven? New England, Jacksonville, New Orleans, Carolina, Cleveland, Las Vegas, and the Giants.

Man, so who's going to really try to tank it first? I guess the Panthers are. They said they're starting Bryce Young, right? Yeah. Imagine being they're officially in. Two and seven tied with the worst record, but get the seventh pick. I mean, that's what the Giants are in right now. Speaking of two and seven, New England, they take on the Chicago Bears in Chicago. Chicago's six point home favorites. The over under is just 38 and a half. 38 and a half. I do, I think both defenses will be fine in this game. I really, I really do. Although D'Andre Swift, I think we'll have a big time game. But beyond that, I have no confidence starting more, Adunzei, Alan, Komet. I dropped Allen in a certain league this week because there's just better options with upside. He had 10 targets. He still does nothing. The way this offense functions right now, it's kind of.

Swift and no one else. Yeah, Mike and I traded for DJ Moore in our champ, champ, champ dynasty league. But he's on our bench right now. We see him as a dynasty play until maybe until Shane Waldron is gone or until Caleb Williams overcomes the offensive system and shows improvement. I don't think you can start the pass catchers there. On the other side, Ramandre Stevenson is such a funny, such a funny start because he's been putrid. terrible, but it doesn't really matter in the sense that the opportunities are being given to him still. They aren't looking at his lack of production and saying, we've got to get Gibson more involved. We've got to find a different way, a different player. They're just continuing to give him the ball, the red zone work. He's scoring touchdowns. So in this matchup against the Bears, where it's very difficult to throw on them, but they aren't the strongest rush defense. I think you've got a flex option here in Remandre. And then Mike brought up Hunter Henry earlier.

His reception lines at four and a half. I'll take that. Yeah, it'll get you by. Yeah. You know, you got them underpants on. I'd take the over on that. I actually think that's a high one, though. It is. He's been over it for three straight weeks. Yeah, I mean, his target. That's how you lose money. His target pecking order. I think, you know, you've got a guy who nine targets, six targets, eight targets in the last three weeks. And they're going to need him. A friend to a rookie quarterback, no question. Drake May has had his, you know, he's had his good plays, good production. He's averaging almost 50 yards rushing every game, which is almost double what Caleb Williams is doing. So he's making things happen. They got to overtime last week. Couldn't pull it out. But, you know, not my favorite game of the week to watch. No. No. Caleb Williams touchdowns have been coming at home. I don't know if that's just, you know, small sample size. I guess so. So.

No, no, that was sorry. I couldn't even, I couldn't even switch. I don't get it. Is there a button for not even getting it? Buffalo, seven and two, the Colts four and five, the Draft King Sportsbook line, Buffalo minus four. The over under is a much more palatable, 48 points. So Joe Flacco, at home, I think we'll bounce back. I really do. I think this will be a bounce back performance for Joe Flacco for Josh Downs. And for Jonathan Taylor, I don't think it's going to be easy, but I do think it's going to be more competitive than people think. And that's why, look, Buffalo record-wise, far superior than Indianapolis. It's a four-point gap. Where do you guys sit on this game in the options? Yeah, I was surprised that it was only four points. But I think it is giving the Colts a little bit more credence at home. Their offensive line has been good. They're number one in PFF's run blocking grade. And that is where.

The bills, very similar to the bears. The bills have a pretty much great pass defense, and you can run on them. They're 29th in schedule adjusted fantasy points given up to the running back position. 30th in total fantasy points given up. to that position while being top 10 against all the others. And when you look at home, Jonathan Taylor with this offensive line, Jonathan Taylor should eat big time this week. Jonathan Taylor, last time that he was at home against Buffalo as a big underdog, he had 185 yards and four touchdowns. So I do think that stylistically, there is a path here for the Colts to surprise and be okay in this game. Josh Allen, of course. James Cook.

The RB 11 on the season five receptions last week. Ray Davis still being involved and making big plays from time to time. What on earth is happening at wide receiver? Because Keon Coleman might miss several weeks. They got some wrist problems. It's a wrist injury. Amari Cooper, questionable, limited on Wednesday, a wrist problem. Is Khalil Shakir a smashed play in this one? I don't think you can never call him that, but he's a good start. Seven targets, 10 targets, seven targets the last three weeks? The wide receiver 23. PPR-wise, Shakir is certainly someone that you can start. I mean, if you're looking at different flex options, he is, he is someone that I wouldn't, I see him as having an extremely high floor because they give him so many screens and he, you know, there's lots of players out there that have screens designed for them that never go anywhere. It feels like every one of his screens.

picks up yards. They've just got that down to a science. I don't know if it's Josh Allen getting the ball out quicker or the blockers being schemed better, but they work. So I think at a full PPR league, Khalil Shakir is like, yeah, I mean, it's hard to put him on your bench. Would you flex him or would you flex Dalton Kincaid who had 10 targets last week? The Colts are 29th against, over the last six weeks, 29th against tight ends, 31st on the year season adjusted. And then you have these wide receiver injuries. I'd go Shakir. I'd go Shakir. You know, you look at Dalton Kincaid, and even with all those targets, if you go from week four, his last six games, he's on pace for 121 targets. That is a number that's outrageously great for a tight end, and he's also scoring on average seven fantasy points. Want to hear something crazy? What's that? Catch percentage. Oh, Shakir's? For Shakir versus Dalton Kincaid? 90?

3% for Khalil Shakir. It is absurd. 59% for Dalton Kincaid. And it's their yards per catch. 11.2 for Shakir, 10.4. Yeah. So for Dalton Kincaid. He is throwing, what, less accurate passes. Oh, gosh. Oh, no. No. Are you kidding me? No. Dude, don't let Josh. Where's Josh? Don't let Pupa Josh eat oatmeal anymore in the morning. What happened? He's leaving again. He said he had a round two. Oh, my brother. Goodness gracious. It's about time. Jeremy, Al, you have got to prepare yourself now because it's moving its way down, Deucer's Alley. The Falcon has usually been the one struggling with the bowels. Now it's on to poop of Josh. And soon, no, I'm good, man. It'll hold this. Val Borland. Yes, that's what I was going with. It's going to be bowel borland. This is, I'm sorry, everybody. Josh better stay here in extra 30 minutes. Right. At work today. Yeah, for sure. Even when his work is done. All the way to 1230.

Yeah. All right. Michael Pittman is week to week right now. And he didn't practice on a Wednesday because, look, remember, we are, what, two or three weeks removed from Michael Pittman's going on the IR. And he didn't do that and he went right back to practice. It was a horrifically bad production game for Pittman last week. He was, he I think is the biggest question here. I would not start Michael Pittman. I think, you know, there's an emergency situation where you... The first three games with Flacco, over 10 points a game. He had four targets. That's not Pittman-like. The injuries are concerning. It's a combination of the injuries, what we saw from Flacco last week, and the matchup. This is not a great matchup. They're fourth against wide receivers, the Buffalo Bills are. And so I don't like the matchup for an injured player who's coming off of back-to-back one...

reception games. Yeah, I'm with you and I'm worried about the fact you could get completely nothing out of it. One interesting fact about Josh Downs, who's receiving line is at 61.5 receiving yards. I know you were let down by him last week. Buffalo plays the fourth highest percentage of too high safety. Downs is a 40% target per route run against two high safety. Yes. So it's a good matchup for Downs at home. with Joe Flacco and a likelihood that they'll need to continue to throw to get back into this game. I mean, on the season, you got downs with 82 yards, 69 yards, 66 yards, 109 yards, 60 yards. He is a reliable player that you can put in your lineup and should be started. The Denver Broncos are 5 and 4. They traveled to a daunting Arrowhead Stadium to play the Chiefs who are 8-0. Drafking Sportsbook line, Kansas City, minus 7 and a half. The over-under is just 42.

That implies only 17 points. Oh, man. I tell you were hitting the button. 17 points. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no. No? No. The Broncos seven and a half versus this defense. I don't like rookie quarterbacks on the road and arrowhead trying to. I tried to do this two weeks ago. And I'm hitting the button. For you? Yeah. Oh, no. This is your almost upset of the week? Oh, yeah. Oh, they're going to get their butts kick. So here's the thing. I really genuinely believe what I'm about to say. Okay. I think that the Broncos played decently well last week against the Baltimore Ravens. When I watched them, they made a lot of good plays. They moved the ball enough. I think they played well. They lost 10 to 41. If you just look at the box score and be like,

You got blown out 41 to 10. You think they stunk. They can't score enough against Kansas City. They can't do it. I agree. On the road. This is a tough situation for a rookie. I think Bo Nix has been fantastic. You know, on the Dynasty show this week, we had kind of a bold prediction rest of the season. And my bold prediction was I think Bo Nix is going to be a top 10 fantasy quarterback the rest of this season. And starting next week. Yeah, I do. I think the Bo Nix is a, it's a sit him down situation for this week. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm playing. But I'm not enthusiastic about the fantasy options for Denver on this matchup. You've got every right to call an upset. I think this game will be close. Closer than it's being projected. Close would make sense. Kansas City's yet to cover the spread as a touchdown favorite this year. They're 0 and 4. Seven and a half is a lot. Yeah, it's divisional. But they're going to win by 24. Saying like the Ravens, that was.

the third time they've hit 41 points on the season. They're outrageous on offense. Meanwhile, I think last week was the first time the chiefs have, yeah, 30 points. That was the first time that they've gotten a third. I could see this being a close game, but it's not going to be because of Bonix and the Denver Broncos offense. It's going to be because Denver Broncos defense is very good. They couldn't stop the Baltimore Ravens offense who nobody can stop right now. I think they can stop Mahomes and this offense. You don't think that in a divisional match up here. Okay. No, because I think the chiefs are figuring it out on offense. And I think we've seen that over the last couple of weeks. Travis Kelsey, the effectiveness that he's had, DeAndre Hopkins, eight for 86 and two, those were basically non-factor for, I mean, Hopkins wasn't there. Kelsey wasn't utilized. I do think they're figuring it out. And I think Cream Hunt makes the difference. Like if you look back at this, like two thirds of those guys weren't even playing football for this offense. It's a different offense. Mahomes has been good for two straight weeks.

But it's going to be a fun one to watch. I mean, the implied point total doesn't give you confidence to start a Bronco. No. Sutton would be the only one. 52 point yardage line. You're taking a chance. Yes, you're definitely, without a doubt, not starting Giovante Williams. You sit him down this week. But Karim Hunt? Khamun is in. Hopkins is in. Travis Kelsey is in. Mahomes is a good question. I wouldn't start him personally. I try not to. I try not to, but he might be fine. He was okay last week, but last week, Again, awesome matchup against Tampa Bay. That's why you've got Brock Bertie as your start of the week this week. They're able to keep up pace, and I don't think that they're going to need Mahomes to do much in this one. I'll give you the final word, Mike. Anything on this matchup? No, I think we've covered everything. Do you want to end it with a Go Broncos? No. I don't. I just making sure. Do you want to end it with a Go Chiefs?

I just, you're the one who made the prediction. I just thought maybe you'd be rooting for your prediction. Apparently not. I don't have to. It's going to happen. I do. Thanks for making a close out really hard. I do think the Broncos frustrate the Chiefs offense this week. Somebody remember to come back to this and then one of us on either side is going to have to. You think I'll forget? If you lose it. I think you'll forget if you lose. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But if I win. Forget what. So maybe we'll forget. All right, we'll take a break. We'll be back in a minute. Okay, we've gone. We went to break. Is Josh back? Back on the toilet? Did he come back in between at all? No, he's moving forward. So as a producer, he's walking in right now. No, don't crawl. You're trying to crawl and pop up. The camera is on. It's literally on you.

Now he's talking without his microphone button. This is a disaster. I had to check something under the desk. There was a wire loose. Al, can I ask you a question? You can. How much, like as a producer, what would you say the most important part of your eight hour day is? Producing this podcast. And how long is this podcast? About an hour. Okay. Yeah. It seems like an eternity radio. All right. The Atlanta Falcons at six and three. they are taking on the Norland Saints sitting at 2 and 7, Draft King's Sportsbook line, Atlanta, minus three and a half, the overrunners 46. It's not a huge line. It's the divisional game. It might speak a little bit to the Drake London injury. It might also speak a little bit to the coaching bump. We talked about this, but the first game after a coach is removed from their services. Usually that team does get a bump up. Their winning percentage goes up for the first week.