Super Bowl Picks + Gronk Smash, #FootClan Q’s

That's great. That's fine. Amazing. That's fine. Except that puts them at wide receiver 11. Right. And you and you are like Jason said, you have killed your actual wide receiver positions and you have you've locked it in. Every league has somebody who wants to get cute like this because they think everyone's going to freak out and come trade for that guy. That and you saw this worked.

whatever it was five years ago when Jimmy Graham and Rob Grunkowski were outscoring the wide receiver won on the season. It definitely worked back then, but it hasn't been relevant since. All right. Tony the tooth in Minnesota has a question. They're great. What would be your argument to change a league from redraft to keeper? Also, what do you think the best ways to pay?

to keep players. So is it draft picks? Is it fab, et cetera? Love the show. Keep up the great work. Talking about a full PPR league. What do you think? If you, I mean, we did this with our league of record a long time ago. It was not a keeper. And we just wanted there to be more off-season care. Investment in your team. And, yeah, an investment in your team. It is, it's really fun to.

have that strategy in the year where you're actually looking at your team and there's something else to possibly play for. And then what happens is in the offseason, now you, when it's just a redraft, there's nothing other than just conversations with your buddies. There's nothing going on. But in a Keeper League, there are assets you have in that off season that you can start opening up trades with and say, hey, you know,

I like your keeper. I want more picks, you know, and then start making transactions like that. I think it's a lot of fun. That's how I would argue for it. Yeah, it's really an argument of fun. And as far as cost for the player, you can do all sorts of things. I like draft price, essentially. Where you drafted that player, that's where you can keep them. If you want to throw in a bonus, so they fall back.

around, I'm okay with that as well. But that's my favorite way to pay for keepers. It's just where you drafted them. Yeah. Now, in those leagues, you got a guy off of waivers. Oh, okay. Great point. Thank you for bringing up, Jason. Because the whole thing where that player is your last pick, I hate it. That is the absolute worst. The price for guys off of the waiver wire are average draft position based off of the service you used to play the game.

So if you're on ESPN, if you're on NFL, wherever their ADP is, that's the round that you give up for that player. In your opinion. Yes. What would you do? Well, I was going to ask you a question, Jason. I wondered if your feelings, I know you've always felt strongly that that's a bad system. Does it change it all, though, when you play in a league where the waiver wire is fab and people are investing and making a choice to spin their fab on the waiver? Because I feel like average draft position, while I understand and I'm fine with it,

I think more often than not, that's actually a penalty for that person, right? Like if you're drafting and in the seventh round, you pick up Adam, or like last year, Adam Thielen, right? You've made a strategic decision. You go 10th round to Adam Thielen last year. You get them for 10th round. But then if you waiver-wired a guy and you spent your fab and invested in that player, you're now being penalized by having to use average draft position. So I was just wondering if it's different in a league where it's not.

waiver priority and it's based on record with fab because if I were going to do it I would say it could be you know ADP minus three rounds something like that yeah so I I still am 100% against it being your last round pick but it where I do it so I don't I don't like ADP I actually think that if you want to take

half of your rounds and put it there right, like right in the middle of your draft, if you've got a 16 round and say it's a, it's an eighth rounder. Yeah, I'm cool with that too. Then there's questions as to whether or not you're going to keep this, you know, Alvin Camara versus someone or, you know, when it's, when it's, oh, I got Alvin Camara or O'Dell Beckham for the 16th round, there's just no question. And when you were buying them. But when you were, sure, but that, I mean, you're, you're at least giving up something. There is a question of whether or not you want to keep them.

Not every waiver pickup that's kept is Odell Beckham or Alvin Palmyra. So I think it just makes it a little bit more fair. Or ADP minus a round or two. We always talk about what do you do to make the league more and more active? I think if you're in a keeper league and the ambition is to find that value on the waiver wire, you're only going to have more fab activity. You're only going to have more trading for those players. So I don't like penalizing it. I like rewarding it.

But I understand you not wanting to say, hey, this guy gets to keep dealing for an 11th, Camara for free, you know, for nothing. And then, you know, he's got a team for 15 years. See, I've usually been of the mind because this is about draft. This is about draft cost and draft capital. It's not about your moves in the season. It's a matter of, were you good at last year's draft? That's where you get rewarded from. So I am 100% behind waivers can't be kept. Like there is no price. If someone didn't.

draft this player your whole league nobody drafted them then nobody gets to keep them you guys weren't smart enough so going with that then if you trade a player who you drafted their keeper eligibility transfers with the player yes wherever they were drafted that's their value whether it was you that drafted them or not even if they're dropped to waivers and picked up that's that's where they were drafted last year all right the moral of this story is there are a lot of ways that you can do it yeah and i would try to find the way that your league

What sounds fun to you? Something that they agree on that you all agree will be fun because there are a lot of, I don't mind that either, not letting people keep waiver wire pickups at all. Yeah. I don't think that's bad. Eddie Fame on Instagram, who is the last quarterback, tight end you will draft? The last quarterback and tight end? Yeah, quarterback or tight end. Like for me, the last tight end I would draft is Ricky Seals Jones, Arizona Cardinals, tight end.

He's available pretty much in every last round. He's the last one I draft. David Injoku's in that category, although he's being drafted more often now. I do agree the last tight end. As of now, the last one I would grab if I've waited until my very last positional pick or whatever, it will be Ricky Seals Jones because I'm going after upside. And huge plays combined with Sam Bradford, who throws to the tight end very, very frequently. I like it as the last pick. As far as the quarterback, I mean.

Who? I don't really care. For me, the last. Who's got a good week one matchup? Yeah, the last. Tarad. Sure. Tarad Taylor. Tyrod. Oh, sorry. Sorry. He said it. He introduced himself as Tyrod. So we are going with Tyrod. Yeah. That's a great one. I would also throw Blake Bortles into that mix of you can wait until everyone has their quarterback and you'll be just fine. Yep. All right. Paul on Facebook has a question. Am I delusional thinking that Cooper Cup?

can be a legitimate wide receiver two all season. I would not say that you're delusional. No, certainly not delusional. He could definitely be a wide receiver two all season. He was a red zone monster. That's what it'll come down to. And I think that stays status quo with the addition of Brandon Cooks and Sammy Watkins leaving the Los Angeles Rams. He's a large wide receiver and they play him in the slot, which makes him a big slot wide receiver, which is fantastic.

for scoring touchdowns. Cooper Cup is, he's one of my dark horse picks for shocking everyone and leading the league in touchdown receptions. Yeah, I can get behind everything just said. I like Cooper Cup a lot. He led the team in targets last year as a rookie coming into year two and everything out of camp about the rapport between golf. We are very flemy today. Between golf, well, we got a cold going around the office. True.

Yeah, I like who I blame for that. Yeah, baby Josh. Baby Josh comes in from Ohio. I was fine. Now we're all sick. Now everybody's coughing. Ridiculous. Riding on the back of a pig. Oh, my goodness. Baby Josh. All right, voice mail question. What's up, footballers? This is Steve in South Carolina. So, somebody in my league just dropped Kerry on Johnson. Oh, yes.

And I want to know how much of my fab budget I spend to make sure that I get him. Waivers go through Sunday. Thanks, guys. This is an important question that I will make Jason answer. And then I will have a follow up for Jason that will be difficult for him to answer. So we're going to go deep dive into carry on here, Jason. Okay. So the first number that comes to my head is a stupid one. And it's stupid low.

$200. $25 is the first thing that's like out of $100. Yes, out of $100 budget, so 25%. That's the first thing that comes into my head where I'd go, that's where I'm going to start. And this is one of those, I mean, it should go without saying, but it needs to be said, every single league is so different. You know your league. If your league is full of a bunch of people that at the end of the year always have money and they're always trying to squeeze out the most, you know, then a $25 bid, that could very well get it done. Or if you're in one of the leagues where.

Several guys every year go for $75. When they see it, the guy that they think is going to pop and be the player. But philosophically, when you can get a player early in the season that could be a producer long term, like, I don't know, before the season begins, it's worth more. So, you know, if. This is tough, Jason. Yeah, it is. Because there's a problem that happens. All right. Tell it to me.

If you spend a lot of fab on him, what if he's a bench clogger? Yeah. What if he's not the stash? What if he's the trash? And when do you cut bait, Mike? Let's say you spend $30 of your $100 fab budget. You feel pot committed to Karen Johnson week nine rolls around, and he's been nothing. By week nine? Like when do you cut bait on that once you've spent fab? See, it's different than spending a 10th round draft pick. When you've invested your fab, people aren't drafting him in the 10th. I mean, he's...

He's, oh, yeah, they are. Yes, they are. Absolutely they are. Yahoo, for some reason on Yahoo, I get, look, I'm Mr. Carry On, so my, my, my tweets, my timeline, my direct messages, pretty much it's 95% Carry On Johnson related. Sure. And how do you not have a jersey already? I, seriously. That's honestly a problem. I'm going to get to Pristine Oxen immediately. The reality, but people on Yahoo, for some reason, he's so low there that everyone gets him in the ninth, 10th round.

And even if I'm spending that low draft capital and carrying on Johnson, he's staying on my bench probably the whole year. Probably the whole year. You believe that? Yes. Oh, then that's a bad thing. No, I think what Mike's saying is he's not going to cut bait on it. Oh, I see what you're saying. No, no, not the bench of the Detroit lines. I'm saying he's staying on my bench because I believe in the upside that I believe he will take over. My man.

And when he does, he's going to be one of those second half guys that's on all of championship teams. So you're saying he does not have a goatee? No, he is a mustache. He is a mustache for sure. Here's the, and that's more of a. And so I wanted to follow it up with the fab conversation of I'm getting Kerry on Johnson. Right. I am putting down the bid that I think.

gets Kerry on Johnson. If that's 30%. But if it's 50%, if it's 50%, man, I mean, that's rough. That's really rough to go into your season already having spent 50%. I know what I would do. Honest to goodness, I would put in a $25 bid, and by the time the waivers run tomorrow morning, it would be $51. Because I would keep telling myself,

You need a little more. No chance I'm missed. I got to bump it up. I know, like that's for sure what would happen. $51 would be my final bit. Wow. It's a good follow-up to yesterday's stash or trash show because these are the psychological battles fantasy football commissioners face every year, which is it's part of it is draft picks, right? Let's see you spend a third or fourth round pick on somebody. I don't know. Let me throw somebody out there. Duke Johnson. You spend a fifth round pick on Duke Johnson because you're, you know.

And then his role isn't what it was. But you spent the draft pick. And then how long do you wait to let that guy go? Those are the decisions. Well, we're going to try to help you make those decisions all year long. Yeah, certainly. That's what keep trade cuts going to be about in season. So my final pick, I'm saying I'm going 25 to 30% of my budget because that's, I believe that will get it done. And I want him on, I want him stashed on my roster. Just waiting. Just waiting for carry on time.

And you hope it comes. And you believe in the talent. So I certainly do. You got one part rookie, one part depth chart, one part offensive line. Yeah. But you've got one part huge upside. And you know every year. I mean, last year, four rookies in the top 12. So there's always the ability for the rookie running back to emerge as a league winning guy. You just hope you don't have to wait as long. And you hope that they, you know, you just hope they use them. You hope there's not. Because you don't want Joe Mixon's rookie season.