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Jason says Arizona's sun changes on Tax Day. Rolling down his drive-through window at 7 a.m. exposes half his face to the 'heat of Satan,' creating a sunscreen plan, a possible McDonald's tan, and a burn like the IRS.
Mike says Emari Demercado owes him $72 in FAAB and that he sends a monthly invoice. The desk preserves its no-harassment rule but allows a formal invoice with no emotional commentary and a return address.
A request for roster depth sounds like a request for death. The desk recommends depth, calls the show a source of 'life and depth' fantasy analysis, and concludes that depth comes for everyone.
The desk says—strictly out of respect—that Derek Carr has no courage, calls him a coward, and argues that cowards check down. Carr is then imagined switching on a bathroom light, startling himself in the mirror, and thereby remaining useful to Alvin Kamara.
Derrick Henry's Baltimore job is reduced to doing the touchdown thing, making him the 'touchdown doer.' The veteran-heavy rankings then produce a mock law requiring every fantasy manager to select one old man at running back.
Josh Jacobs' poor prior season is labeled Fat Thor. The desk hopes Green Bay changes him into the more shredded 'Love and Thunder' body, while imagining that a failed stint ending in a benching would send him back as 'Fatterthor.'
Complete review of the published video, all fifteen five-second storyboard sheets, and targeted one-second frames shows only Mike, Jason, and Andy live at the main desk: Mike is left in a green T-shirt and gray-tan cap, Jason is center in a black shirt, black cap, and glasses, and Andy is right in a bright red T-shirt. A large black-green Fantasy Faceoff helmet sits in the foreground. The video opens on Jason, moves through the standard montage, and reaches the desk at about 00:29. The montage's brown-black bear at roughly 00:14-00:15 is generic footage, not Jay Griz; its WITH THE DUCERS card depicts and labels Brooks/Judge Giamatti, Jeremy/Owl Borland, and Kyle/The Borgogon as produced branding rather than live appearances. At 10:36 an unidentified off-camera person answers the desk's Deucers Alley question with 'No, sir,' but the video does not cut away or identify the speaker, so no crew appearance is inferred. The only specialty segment visual is a published RUNNING BACK RANKINGS bumper around 11:16-11:20 with arcade cabinets and produced Andy/Jason cutouts. The personality material otherwise plays entirely as ordinary desk conversation. Jason describes Arizona's Tax Day sun blasting his 7 a.m. drive-through window with the 'heat of Satan,' requiring sunscreen on half his face and threatening a McDonald's tan. Mike says Emari Demercado owes him $72 in FAAB and that he sends a monthly invoice; the desk turns that grudge into listener etiquette allowing formal, emotionless FAAB invoices while still forbidding tags, letters, and abuse. A pronunciation slip makes roster depth become death, then 'life and depth,' because depth comes for everyone. Derek Carr is respectfully declared a coward whose checkdowns help Alvin Kamara, complete with an imagined bathroom-mirror fright. Derrick Henry becomes the 'touchdown doer' before the desk says every fantasy manager will be legally required to select one old running back. Josh Jacobs' established Fat Thor label then evolves toward a hoped-for shredded 'Love and Thunder' body, with a bad benching threatening 'Fatterthor.' No invoice, mail, collections desk, death/depth graphic, bathroom, mirror, legal permit, player card, thunder-god costume, or player image appears during those riffs.
We always want to plug the new wide receiver in of just gobble, gobble, give me all those targets go right to this guy. Vacated targets are actually, there's a strong signal that the running back will see their target share go up. So he could get there, but I think that is, it's risky. I have a really, really hard time with wanting James Cook on my roster. The touchdowns are scary. But when I pull back and think about. Kind of things that hit historically in fantasy football, like you said, Mike, the vacated targets, I go to a running back. What is James Cook? Real superpower for fantasy, it's catching the ball. It's not the rushing, even though his rushing yards were great. Touchdowns are my big fear, but touchdowns are not a sticky stat either. And if he already finished as the running back 11, whilst not having the touchdowns and he's being drafted at running back 12, maybe you're actually getting him around the floor. And should he have that kind of fluky, but.
you know, very possible 10 touchdown season, then you're talking about a league winner. So I think maybe I've been mentally too low on James Cook. He is in a good offense. They desperately need him. He is the perfect age. Usually the top peak season for running backs is 24 years old. So I need to readjust kind of how I'm viewing James Cook. I just don't like the archetype. That's why I think he's the, I said I'm not drafting Aaron Jones. For Cook, I like, you just draft him and just like, I'm not going to try to figure out how it happens. It's just going to be fine.
That's how I feel about him. Camara at 17. Oh boy. Alvin Camara. This is not my fault. 28.7 years old. Mike has him at 19. I have a 19. Jason at 14. What you're doing? Look, I am very, I'm very comfortable with Jason's ranking because he's on my dynasty team. He finished at RB 14. Jason, give us the, give us the bullish case for an older Alvin Camar. Well, he basically missed, what, five games last season. Yeah. He finished as the running back 14. And during the stretch, if you don't remember. Pretty good case so far. If you don't remember what he did last year with this offense that really doesn't look like it's going to retool a lot. They're going to have the same quarterback who's going to dump it down to Camara and they've got the same wide receiver court. Maybe they add a wide receiver in the draft, but it's not going to be something that takes the targets away. Here are the game logs of fantasy finishes. Once Camara came back.
from, was his, his was a suspension, right? So he was the running back 12, 7, 12, 2, 4, 22, 14, 14, 2, 2016. He was a running back 1 most of those weeks. At worst, he finished running back 2, and then he had one bad week, running back 44 in week 16, and then got injured. So, like, I think he's really interesting because he's older, he got injured at the end of the year, was suspended to start. I think he's being lost in the shuffle. He seems like as safe a floor player when you are receiving targets at the volume that he had them. I mean, his pace for targets during his healthy games last year was 120 targets. You just talked about the kind of crazy Echler year where he had 108 targets. He was so hyper-targeted when he was on the field. And I don't see that changing this year. His contracts, I'm looking at it right now. So he's under contract.
this year and if they had cut him or anything it would have been an 18 million dead cap there's no chance you know what his dead cap is next year oh it's got to be astronomical 10.1 really yeah so like he it seems like he's going to play for them for two more years like like mustard-esque type of situation and then he still has a six six million dollar dead cap the year after that yeah they love pushing that can i mean it's just his his numbers don't make sense for talking just pure fantasy. Okay, a running back with 180 carries, 694 yards. That's 3.9 a carry. He had five rushing touchdowns. Okay. Caught 75 passes for 466 yards. James Cook, by the way, was 44 catches for 444, 445 yards. So way, way more efficient. One receiving touchdown for Camara. And yet the running back 14 on the year, I think.
That's my biggest hesitancy here with Camara is it was gross. You don't deserve it. This is longest run of the year was 17 yards, never had a 20 yard run. Like in standard leagues, he had to be like the running back 32. 3.9 a carry. These numbers are terrible. Well, if you remember, this was the worst team to watch and the worst quarterback to watch. And the reason why. was Alvin Camara because every single play, Derek Carr would drop back. No, but it was like, it was just bad offense. It was just, it hurt their team. He wouldn't throw to Olave or to open wide receivers down the field because he just dumps it down. And then the whole defense like goes, hey, should we just like get right on Camara because they're going to throw the ball to him. So like every time he'd catch the ball. It's like he didn't even lead him and give him the ball in good opportunities. So it was disgusting, but it's going to work for fantasy.
And I say this strictly out of respect. He has no courage. That is very respectful. You know what I mean? Yeah. He's a coward. Yeah. Respectfully. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so cowards, check it down. Do you think, like when he goes into the bathroom in the morning and he turns on the light, did he scares himself in the mirror? Like he turns the light on it. Oh, my God. Oh, that's me. Okay. Oh, no, Derek. I'm sorry. I think that cowards are good for Alvin Camara. Yeah. So Rahim Moster comes in at six. Kick that ball out. The numbers. Well, we're moving on. We're moving on. 16 is Rahim Moster. He is 32 years old. So you can sit there and go, oh, Alvin Camara is his best time is behind him. He's 28.
Most are 32. You spoke about at the beginning, Andy, but just to really take a look at the whole landscape, this year in redraft, you are playing old running backs. That's going to happen. The influx of newer, younger running backs that they didn't pan out. This year's draft class doesn't look great. Last year, yeah, you got Bijon, you got Gibbs. But all the rest, the Charbonnet, the Kendra Miller, Taj Spears, Tank. They're not like set up for this year's. To take the mantle. Exactly right. So for fantasy at the end of this season, you're going to have older running backs. By that, I mean like 27, 28, 29, or 32, where they will matter and they will be on the championship winning team. So you can't play scared of the age at running back this year. And there's no greater example than Rahim Moster. And you have them the highest. So I want to hear from you because this was a player that entered last season with 19 touchdowns in his.
in his entire career. He had 21 last year in 15 games. In 15 games, he was the running back two. He had 20 carries inside the five. I mean, when you look at his numbers on the ground, just the carries in the yardage, like this was almost identical to what James Connor did. Connor was 208 for 1040, right? And Rahim Mostert was 209 for 1020 or 1012. So it was touchdowns, right? And that is tough. Like, you're not. I mean, you're not getting 21 touchdowns this year. You're not getting 21 touchdowns, but if you had to take the over under on 10 total touchdowns, I think you'd probably be right around there. Yeah, I mean, I'm probably going to stat them out. This is a great offense that's going to score a ton of points. And when they get down around the goal line, you either have little itty bitty baby boy. And, you know, I love Devon A. Chan, but that's not who they're giving the ball to get this touchdown. They're giving it to Mostert in the easiest way.
to score touchdowns around the goal line. He's not passing the ball. It's running the ball. Kyle Shanahan knows that's why Christian McCaffrey gets so many touchdowns. And you've got Mike McDaniel coming over, and he's going to do the same thing with Moster. They're going to do it over and over and over again. They did it last year. He had seven games as a top ten fantasy running back and only two games all year where he wasn't a top 24. Mostor is, he's criminally undervalued. This is. Really good news again for my elderly dynasty team. Thank you, Jason, for really advocating for me to not sell players. I have mid-18, Mike at 18, but all of us are too are much higher than the consensus. I wanted to bring it up because he's RB 24 in bestball. Disgusting. So you're kind of, that's egregious to you. It's egregious. He was the running back two last year in 15 games. Now, like we said, he's not going to get 21 touchdowns, but he's on a great offense. He's going to be the.
At worst, 1B. What about being 32 years old? So a lot's made about that. Obviously, age cliffs are real, but he hasn't slowed down yet. And you also have to keep in mind when you look at a human being, Rahim Moser is 32 years old. He spent the first umpteen years of his career not being a running back, not carrying the ball. You know, his rushing attempts by the time he got into year five of his career. were a grand total of, let me look this up, 41. 41 carries when he got into his fifth season. So yeah, he's a little bit older, but he has tread on the tires. We'll talk more about him in the context of Divine A-chan. And they paid him. Later on. Yeah, they did. They did. They reworked his contract to give him another, like, commitment year, like another year where he's a part of this equation. If Rahim Moster's best ball ADP sticks at running back 24, he's going to be on like 100% of money.
Like there's no way I won't take him by the time he gets to running back. I'm in. I'm in on most. Yeah. Mustard man over here. Mustard man and mustard man. Yeah. You love mustard too. I do. Bejohn and Rahim. All right. We'll take another quick break and come back and talk about, I think, a controversial name with some fear surrounding him. I hope it's the name that's controversial. Yes, the name is very offensive. All right, it's time for that controversial name. At 15, Mike is the highest at 12. I've got him at 15. Jason to 17. It's Kenneth Walker, the third, just 23 years old. Back-to-back seasons finishing at RB 16 and RB19. I'll be honest. I'll hand the baton to Mike to talk about his ranking, which is a little bit higher than best ball ADP. Kenneth Walker is just a confusing player to me.
I'm going to just set the table there. He's confusing because there are times when he has the football in his hand where I think maybe he's the best running back that I've seen that day. And yet, you know, under 1,000 yards, he's missed two games each of the last two years, doesn't catch a ton of passes. So I kind of feel like he's capped. Mike? I think that's a fine stance to have on Kenneth Walker. It's... Just that he's very explosive. I think he makes a lot of mistakes, but the athleticism and the strength overcome those mistakes frequently, and then they turn into a lot of touchdowns. We had eight rushing touchdowns last year. As a rookie, it was nine where he wasn't even the starter to begin the year. The Zach Charbonnet, despite our love for him.
He looked really overmatched last year just as the backup. And now you have the team saying we're going to be a high T team. We want to get back to running the ball. Gino Smith had some unfortunate regression last year from his true superstar breakout campaign a couple years ago. So it's more of just projecting that Walker will have huge games. And I think that he is locked in to be the... the far more productive of the timeshare, more running back attempts to go around for this team. And so just young enough and explosive enough that I think he can outperform that ADP. Yeah, the bear case is simply that he doesn't catch passes. He wasn't efficient as a goal line back despite having plenty of touchdowns. A lot of times I come from outside of where they are more predictable. So if he doesn't get the touchdowns and there's a new coaching regime where we don't know, you know,
The loyalty isn't necessarily there. I do think he's a great back. It's a very explosive athlete. But it's like if he's in a timeshare and he doesn't catch the ball and maybe the touchdown start to move, I know it sounds reminiscent of last year after they brought Charbonny in. But there's still some yellow flags that just make me go elsewhere. All right. Well, Derek Henry comes in at 14. It seems like he'd be lower if it wasn't for yours truly. I haven't at 11. Mike at 14. and Jason at 18. I am a little shocked at Jason's dunking on Derek Henry after he just, you know, age boosted Rahim Mostert. Derek Henry had a horrible year last year, all to the tune of 280 for 1167 and 12 and the RB8. He goes into a better situation. Gus Edwards, who I think at times we didn't remember played football, was the RB 20 last year. He came in only to do the touchdown.
They said, will you do the touchdown thing? And he's like, I don't get to do anything else. Like that's true. And what's crazy is just doing the touchdown in Baltimore was a top 24 back. So to me, this is not me believing Derek Henry is going to have a volume resurgence. I don't think that's going to be the case. I think you're actually going to see maybe the lowest volume that we've seen ever from Derek Henry, or at least in recent memory. But I think it will do the touchdown. I think he will be big. Good touchdown. He'll be the touchdown doer for sure. Big good touchdown. Yeah, I mean, as the touchdown doer, there is a really nice floor for him. You're not going to have Keaton Mitchell, you know, he got hurt. Coming back off the injury as a smaller back doing the touchdown thing. That'll be Derek Henry's. And Gus is gone. What do you think the floor is, Jay, for Derek Henry rushing touchdowns? Oh, assuming it's healthy, the floor is probably 12.
That was RB8 last year. I mean, again, maybe not the volume though. Maybe he's 240 for a thousand yards. I'm guessing that they don't overwork him through the course of the season. This is a team. Playoff. Yeah. A Super Bowl. Just like you saw kind of the second half of Travis Kelsey last year. He could do it. He was frustrated that Andy Reed was like not keeping him on the field all the time. And then they got to the playoffs. And it's like, okay, now. Hey. Kelsey, you see why I was doing that? I could see them doing that a little bit with Derek Henry. He's going to get the touchdowns. I think he's got a safe floor as an RB2, but I worry about the upside because he doesn't catch the pass, and I don't think he's going to be a workhorse in Baltimore. Now, we'll have to see what they do with the Deptart. Right now, an injured Keaton Mitchell, Justice Hill, at Derek Henry. They might just be forced to use him more than I think.
If they come out of the draft without a running back, maybe I'll adjust my expectation for more volume. But as of right now, I think he's going to do all the touchdown things. Get plenty of work because he's just a great, awesome running back, but not catch the ball much and be a safe floor RB2. The rushing numbers for Baltimore, granted they have a rushing quarterback. First in rushing attempts per game. First in rushing rate at 50% of fifth plays inside the 10. Yeah, I would love. That's the good stuff. I would love to see running back course compared. But still, when you add Lamar Jackson, you're going. But even, even stepping back from the rush rate, plays inside the 10, fifth. Get Derek Henry on an offense and they maintain anywhere around that. I think 12 is a safe, is a safe bet for rushing touchdowns. They have also come out and said that they want to, I think, bring the running game back.
in even better form, more like the Roman, Greg Roman days, or at least bend it back a little bit from what they did last year. They did lose three offensive linemen. I was going to bring that up. They are odds on favorites to take an offensive lineman in the draft to help repair some of their, they lost two guards in a tackle. Looking at the, like the totality of the running backs, just the team. So the Ravens running backs as a team were the fourth most fantasy points. Okay. Well, look, every... You consolidate that. Every fantasy player is going to be required by law to select an old man to be one of the running backs. Because we're going to, I mean, we're going to enter that territory again. Henry is a perfect UDK prospect because, you know, you stat him out or you don't stat him out and you just go, I think he's going to be like this and not use this way. But when you actually stat these guys out and see how many rushing touchdowns, he is...
projected to have and how that compares, I could see him ending up as like my RB6. Joe Mixon comes in at 13. Houston Texan running back, Joe Mixon. Long term. Yeah, they signed him. They paid him money. And he gets to rejuvenate his career in Houston with a good offense last year, 257 for 1034 and 9. That was somehow good enough with the past catching numbers for RB5 in Cincinnati. And so, you know, led the NFL and carries inside the tin last year. So, you know, steady at this point in his career, not explosive necessarily, but reliable. And hard not to be excited when you saw Devin Singletary have success to look at Joe Mixing and say, well, probably a little more versatile, a little bit bigger. Definitely going to be a goal line threat. We all have them similarly ranked.
Another steady option for fantasy players. We have my 13. Joe Mixon is such a difficult player for me to get a gauge on because it seems like almost every off season it felt like the correct bet is to bet against Joe Mixon, where his numbers, his efficiency numbers are straight do-do when you're talking about on the ground for a guy getting that amount of work. where his sophomore season, 4.9, we're like, oh, Joe Mixon is going to be incredible, running the ball, then it was 4-1-36, 4-1, 3.9. Just efficiency is not great, but still getting all of the work. And then, Andy, the Devon Singletary Point, high-powered offense, how do you not get excited about it? And yet, will Mixon make the transition from the team? Will it be really smooth? Will he see targets?
Last year, Houston, 15% of their targets went to the running back position. That would be 30th. It's going to be hard to see a lot of targets with three great wide receivers and one tight end that can catch the ball. And is that 15%? Is that C.J. Stroud and the way that he plays the game and the way that the offense runs, was that the personnel? He just didn't feel like I want to check it down all the time to guys like Damien Pierce when he's. on the field every once in a while. And then Devin Singletary, there are so many questions, running backs. I wonder if Kyle knows this question. Just to ask away. Sorry, just to follow up, because you mentioned like, are the targets going to be there? And we always say, well, when great wide receivers like James Cook, right, you lose Stefan Diggs. So sometimes the running backs benefit from the target share. Right. So does it work in reverse? When Diggs joins your team? Probably.
If Diggs joins your squad, do the running backs, are they the ones that sacrifice? I'm curious if he knew that question. Did you know that Andy was going to ask that? Did you know that he was going to ask that question? No clue. Okay. He did not know the question. So what about the answer to the question? Ah, that's, that's different. Kyle? Look it up. TBD. TBD. But yet again, I mean, I have him ranked where his current best ball ADP is. But he, he, it feels like where Andy's shaping up like Aaron Jones looks like a guy who may not be someone I'm drafting. I don't, Joe Mix, there's, there's so many true green flags about the situation. And yet I find myself hesitant. I, I am not hesitant. I'm more hesitant in basketball because I don't think he's going to be one of these guys who has these.
giant explosive games, but over the course of the season. Accumulation. So you're talking redraft leagues, your home league. If I can get him as my RB2, heck yeah, brother. Look, Devin Singletary is a fine back. I don't think he's a bad back. I think he's pretty good. I don't think Joe Mixon is a great back. However, Joe Mixen greater sign Devin Singletary. Joe If you look at what happened last year with Devon Singletary, they started the season where Singletary was 21% of snaps, 36% of snaps, 29, 36, 35. Like he wasn't, it was supposed to be Damian Pierce. Damian Pierce, but Damian Pierce wasn't good. So they're like, you know what? Singletary is better. And then once Singletary got 75, 81, 85, the rest of the season, he was on the field the majority of the time and he was the back. During that stretch, which was from week 10 on, he was the running back nine.
Devin Singletary was. There's a good offense. They paid a lot to get mixing, sign them long term. So there's no doubt week one, week five, week 10, week 12, no matter how he performs. He's the guy. Yeah, no, it's a good point. And I feel like this next guy on the list, people are believing for very much the same reason. Josh Jacobs comes in at 12 on our ranks. Mike is the only one above best ball ADP, which is at 9. I'm at 12, Jason at 16. You know, you can't look at last season and say Josh Jacobs looked great on the football field because he didn't. He looked bad. 233 for 805 and 6. Fat Thor came in, caught 37 passes, didn't score through the air, finished at RB 27, full dud of a season after leading the National Football League in rushing. Green Bay, a franchise that makes a lot of good decisions, a head coach that I trust, you know.
One of the best in the league, in my opinion. And so that says something to me about, look, do you move on from Aaron Jones, you reset the age clock at running back, you bring in Josh Jacobs, 26 years old, you believe, and again, the Raiders wanted him back. So, Antonio Pierce believed, and then you have the Packers believing that this guy is going to be worth the trade, be worth the contract. Rather. Yeah. So the way that it went down, this is a well-run franchise, not just head coaching, but the way that they manage their team as well. They're smart. They tried to get Aaron Jones to restructure his deal. They wanted to keep him. He didn't want to take less money, and they saw an opportunity to get three years younger and go to Josh Jacobs. And the way they did that was a brilliant. They gave him a bunch of money up front and said, hey, here you go. They structured it to where if it doesn't work out this year, it's pretty much a one-year deal. They can move on, have not that much dead cap, and get out of the contract after this season, going into the 2025 season. So I am a little bit afraid.
Because of the way that they structured this, and because of what we saw on the field last year, the inefficiencies with Josh Jacobs, the fact that he was 3.5 a carry. I mean, he just didn't look good. He was very, very inefficient. Now, he hasn't hit an age cliff at 26 that I'm, like, terrified of. But when you get all this volume on a back that starts getting inefficient, now he changes teams, I don't think he has an infinity leash here. And if he just sucks, I worry about him. Now, he is on the every other year plan. of success for fantasy in his career. So if you want to take that analysis, you know, he's gone back and forth, kind of a red light green light situation. This last year, bad. Maybe it's great. But I find myself a little bit more afraid of Josh Jacobs, only because what we saw last year was bad. And so it's like that's where my fear comes from. His situation is great. I think he'll be more utilized in the passing game. LaFleur's talked about that.
So if he hasn't lost it, he should be great for fantasy. But I've got that, I've got kind of the hebie-jeebies of like, I don't want to draft a guy after watching him suck. Again, I think that's a very fair assessment. I hope that we are going from Fat Thor to the Love and Thunder body. Oh, okay. Or whatever the name of the new movie was, because Thor was looking shredded. Much better. Much more shredded in that movie. currently should the Green Bay Packers be putting Josh Jacobs out and get really mad, really frustrated. They pull him out. Who's going in the game, Jay? Hey, Jay Dylan. So Josh Jacobs. Fatterthor. Yeah. They're going to, they're going to be like, okay, we got to go back. So it's just this is a, it's a bet on the Green Bay Packers for for me with Josh Jacobs of the cash. I.
I think that Josh Jacobs will be close to a three-down running back in a world where we get very few of them. And this is why Emmanuel Wilson should be on dynasty rosters. Rashad White comes in at 11 to round out our first half of the top 20 running back early rankings. Rashad White was the RB 7 last year. I called him baby CMC because he or discount CMC rather. He was awesome. fantasy production wise, not efficiency on the ground wise. It was a playoff team. They didn't bring anybody else in to usurp him last year. That was a surprise. The draft, there were eyeballs on it. That's why there was Sean Tucker belief. And there will be again. There was belief in Sean Tucker. But again, I don't think this team's going to draft the running back because they paid Chase Edmonds to come back and be Chase Edmonds. I think they loved what they got from White. I don't think it was, you know, these teams don't evaluate players.
through a single metric like yards per carry. You know, they won a lot of football games. They salted away the clock a lot at the end of games, which doesn't help your primary running backs numbers. He was one of the best wide receivers, so to speak, in football at the position. He caught 64 of 70 targets. 70 times Baker Mayfield said, I need to throw it to this guy. And 64 times. He caught the football. 91%. That's pretty good. That is just so valuable. He is the same case that you made for Alvin Camara can be made for White. White was not crazy explosive on the ground. Camara's numbers were terrible on the ground, and yet you have to keep him on the field. Yeah, obviously TBD, if something changes, I agree with you, Andy, that they are not actively seeking to fix this running back room. When you listen to Todd Bowles.