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Deucer's Alley is a hot, steaming pile
After naming the hosts, the opening adds a pile of Deucers. The desk upgrades that to a hot, steamy, steaming pile, asks how Deucer's Alley is doing, receives a positive reply, tells the crew they look hot, recoils at the result, and orders push-ups. The next paragraph calls Al Borland Jason Moore's best friend.
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Brooks cannot buy a genuine award
The hosts say Brooks's ego wants the sports-podcast awards and call him a man of infinite wealth. Asked what can be given to such a man, they settle on an award because it is something he cannot simply buy; Brooks is a rich man of honor who needs it to be genuine, although the desk is willing to discuss a manufactured off-air Oscar labeled Best Actor Jeff Bezos.
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The Dynasty podcast reaches number one before episode one
The newly announced Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast becomes Apple's number-one sports podcast before publishing a real episode. Its only release is a one-minute Jason teaser, though the desk insists it also contains Mike's fire intro music that will become the official show opening.
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Dinner Butter tells Jason to stay hungry
Jason wears the recurring Dinner Butter shirt during the quick question. The garment immediately turns the question's transition into two 'stay hungry' cues.
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Trey Sermon over Waddle ends in the laptop long con
Jason admits that a running-back need made him select Trey Sermon even while debating and knowing he should take Jaylen Waddle. Near the close, Andy claims Sermon from dynasty waivers after a tiny Philadelphia practice puff piece. When the desk proposes swapping Sermon for the Waddle Jason now owns, Jason punishes Andy by unplugging his laptop charger; Andy will discover the damage hours later, and the physical long con nearly spills his drink.
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Brian Edwards is the invisible practice player of all time
The hosts explain Brian Edwards repeatedly earning jobs and snaps without production through an invisibility cloak. He may be the greatest practice player ever, dominating so thoroughly that he is too tired for games. Later, a Trey Sermon practice puff piece is called the most Brian Edwards news ever produced.
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Kyle hears Lamar Jackson in Desmond Ridder
Asked for a hometown Falcons reaction to Desmond Ridder being named starter, Kyle says that sounds like a weird way to pronounce Lamar Jackson. He admits his heart still hopes for Lamar, but if Atlanta chooses Ridder, he will sadly roll with it; the desk immediately notes the sadness.
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The Fantasy Genie grants three offseason wishes
A listener calls as the Fantasy Genie and offers each host one offseason wish. The first two unlabeled wishes send DeAndre Hopkins and Austin Ekeler to Buffalo, with Bijan Robinson replacing Ekeler. Mike refuses to wish for Trey Lance greatness and asks only to learn whether Lance can play after two full offseasons of argument; the hosts predict the 49ers injury chain may keep the answer elusive.
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Jason recuses himself from the Bijan train to paradise
A listener asks whether to trade Josh Jacobs for the dynasty 1.01 and Bijan Robinson. The Bijan Minute is announced, Jason is deemed too biased to answer, and his face is said to reveal the verdict anyway. The broader discussion turns Bijan belief into a train for which every host owns a ticket and paradise is the current destination.
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Greek-god Kelce will peak at human fifty
Normal tight-end aging is rejected once Travis Kelce is classified as a Greek god. In god years he will peak at human 50, leaving another decade and a half; he should grow healthier, stronger, and perhaps an inch taller the next season because Zeus is still a growing young man.
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Kelce carries a co-managed dynasty team through the playoffs
A host and Mike's co-managed dynasty team is described as a repeat champion debating whether to trade Kelce. The hosts say the roster routinely limps into the playoffs as merely good, then Kelce converts it into championships; Kyle simultaneously berates the team in Slack. The current transcript never names the team, though the co-management and later corpus context likely identify it as Dino Junior.
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The Kelce boomerang sells a screenshot taste
A host's verbal slip about giving up Kelce inspires a strict boomerang trade: Kelce may leave only if the other manager sends him back and pays a third-round pick. The renter gets no games, just a little Kelce dust and enough time to take a screenshot and flex online. The actual remembered acquisition bundled Kelce and Mike Evans for Chris Godwin, Gabe Davis, Greg Dulcich, Jaylen Warren, a second, and two thirds.
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Secret podcast league mates become best friends
A listener asks whether friendship can survive discovering that a league mate listens to the same fantasy podcast. The answer is not only yes but better or best friendship: listeners have humor, nice clothes, good smell, handsomeness, independent wealth, books, and perhaps a Dodge Stratus. Awesome league mates are presumed listeners, although the podcast remains hush-hush until the secret is revealed.
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Pacheco's cue fires before the fast feet return
The closing question names Isaiah Pacheco, and the hosts pause to thank and acknowledge a sound cue firing; its words are not captured by the transcript. The next paragraph immediately returns to Pacheco's familiar physical marker: the feet are very fast.
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Episode notes
Direct review of the published video confirms Andy, Jason, and Mike at the desk, three human crew members in the Deucer's Alley cutaways, and no Jay Griz cutout, image, or fourth host. The studio opens by calling the crew a hot, steamy pile in Deucer's Alley and ordering them to do push-ups, then identifies Al Borland as Jason Moore's best friend. Brooks wants a sports-podcast award because his infinite wealth cannot buy a genuine one; the desk calls him a rich man of honor and imagines purchasing an off-air Oscar from the manufacturer. The newly announced Dynasty podcast is already Apple's number-one sports podcast before its first real episode, powered only by Jason's one-minute trailer and Mike's finished intro music. Jason visibly wears the recurring Dinner Butter shirt and receives a 'stay hungry' cue. The strategy discussion becomes personal show history when Jason admits drafting Trey Sermon for need over Jalen Waddle; Mike is reminded of Royce Freeman over D.J. Moore and Clyde Edwards-Helaire. Near the close, Andy claims Sermon from waivers after a practice puff piece, and Jason visibly reaches across to unplug Andy's charging cable—the long con that will only hurt hours later and nearly spills Andy's drink. Brian Edwards supplies the template for that puff piece: his repeated jobs and empty snaps suggest an invisibility cloak and perhaps the greatest practice player ever. Kyle is asked about hometown Atlanta naming Desmond Ridder its starter; the program cuts to the three-person booth as he calls that a weird pronunciation of Lamar Jackson, admits his heart still hopes, and then sadly agrees to roll with Ridder. In the Fantasy Genie segment, the first two wishes send DeAndre Hopkins and Austin Ekeler to Buffalo, with Bijan Robinson replacing Ekeler, while Mike asks for no success at all—only a definitive answer on whether Trey Lance can play. The established Bijan Minute immediately disqualifies Jason from a listener's Josh Jacobs-versus-1.01 question, and the hosts imagine everyone buying tickets for a Bijan train to paradise. Travis Kelce is protected from aging by Greek-god math: he peaks at human 50, grows healthier and taller, and remains Zeus. A host and Mike describe their co-managed dynasty team as repeat champions whose Kelce advantage turns limping playoff teams into winners while Kyle berates them in Slack. Another host proposes a Kelce boomerang trade in which a rival pays a third-round pick merely to hold Kelce long enough for an online screenshot before returning him. Finally, league mates who secretly share the podcast are declared better or best friends: they are funny, well dressed, good smelling, handsome, independently wealthy, well read, and likely Dodge Stratus drivers, though the show remains hush-hush secret sauce. The final Isaiah Pacheco question triggers a likely established Pacheco sound cue before the desk remembers his extremely fast feet.
without question. Yeah, it's not a 100% certainty that Bejohn is going to be better than Josh Jacobs. It is a 100% certainty that he's four years younger. And it is a 100% certainty that he will be under contract for more years. I mean, Josh Jacobs is in a contract year, playing under the franchise tag this coming season. So he'll have to find a new home or a new contract somewhere. And that's not good for a 26-year-old running back next year. So situationally, it's, you know. So are you trading Giovante Williams for? Josh Jacobs because he's 22? Well, Giovante Williams, I don't expect to have a, you know, I, I'm not sure what kind of season he's going to have. I don't think he's going to be relevant this year until the end. I would trade Josh Jacobs for Bruce Hall. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, would you do that too, Mike? Yeah. Would you trade Josh Jacobs? I'd take Brise. And the, the way it stands right now before the NFL draft has happened, Josh Jacobs looks set up for an incredible year because.
Right now the depth start is Amir Abdullah, Brandon Bolden, and last year, I think Zemir White was a fourth rounder, but I think that the Raiders found out everything they need to know about him. They're going, they won't go into the NFL season with this as their depth charge. Josh Jacobs will have almost an identical season. That's almost, he's got the same head coach. He's going to have the same type of offensive dependency. Josh Jacobs is going to have a massive year. But he won't have as long of a career as those other guys. Yeah, we'll have a good year, but I don't.
I would bet heavily against him hitting 1,600 rushing yards again. Yeah, so I agree with the core of what both of you were saying. Josh Jacobs is going to be awesome this year. I feel like 1,20 as a rusher is near-locked barring injury. And that's awesome. Yeah, it's a great year. That's still a far cry from what he did last year, but that is awesome. And I think the role, no matter who they bring in, the role is going to basically be the same as what we saw this last season. They paid. They paid for it too. Mm-hmm. Here's a question, a couple of them actually, about Travis Kelsey. Twitter, play action pod. Is this the year that Travis Kelsey gets dethroned as the top tight end? What are your thoughts on Hawkinson this year? Nope. Nope. No, he's not getting dethrone. Oh, man. Especially with Lamar Jackson. Like, the one player that I think could, you know, maybe compete with him is Mark Andrews, but.
Mark Andrews can't compete with him if Lamar Jackson's not a Raven. You're not, nothing for T.J. Hawkinson, who, let's see, joining the Minnesota Vikings, his pace was not as impressive as I thought. I know. That's what I, he was great for T.J. Hawkinson. he was he was he was impressive because he's had years of being disappointing he was impressive because he was so high in the pecking order of the offense but when you actually look at the cumulative stats i'm going to remove you want to know that was very funny i'm going to remove the final week of the season because he he had one catch and he played 46% of the snaps like i'll take that one out and it's still a 17 game pace of 111 catches nice 950 yards
Here's what's funny. And again, we're not talking about it. They just won the world championship. They're the top dogs, the chiefs. They got it. And they'll probably fix some things at wide receiver. But right now, the storyline in Kansas City is Cadarius Tony and Skymore. And MBS. Okay, NMBS. But NMVS is the end of a sentence that you meant. Like, he's fine. But they lost McCall Hardman. They lost Juju. And it's just kind of funny because it's like the expectation, Skymore is going to step up, Cadarious Tony is going to step up. Like the history is that Travis Kelsey steps up. I mean, it's just, it's like nothing in their current depth chart does anything to say he's going to take a step back. I actually, I did a little bit of research because obviously tight end age is important for all of these. And when looking specific to tight ends.
he's at an age that you would think normally is bad. I talked about this a little bit last season, but if you factor in Greek God, it's actually you peak at human 50. So he's actually got about a decade and a half left. Oh, if you're looking at God years? God years, he's going to be 50 years old when he hits his peak. So he's actually going to be healthier, stronger, probably an inch taller this coming season. Still growing. Still growing young man. Zeus is, yeah, no one's dethroning Travis Kelsey unless Travis Kelsey gets injured and misses a large chunk of time. If he misses four games, no one's, no one is dethroning him. Follow up then from McCade Gordon on Twitter. What should I expect in return for Kelsey in a dynasty league? What's the least I should try to acquire? Okay, so I saw this question earlier and I wanted.
I was thinking, if I had Travis Kelsey right now, I would go and offer him straight up for Mark Andrews. Really? Yeah, because there's a lot of fear. You don't know. Andrews is 27? Sounds about right, but let's, let's 27. Perfect. So he's five years younger than Travis Kelsey. He has obviously proven that he can be a stud, be an all-start. I think you're right. I think you're right about that. And there's a lot of fear over the quarterback situation. You might not have Lamar. You might have the worst situation imaginable. So you could get in some leagues, I think you could get the deal done. Mark Andrews, manager is probably freaking out. And there is also the world where two weeks from now, Lamar Jackson is back and he's a raven. And now you've gotten younger to the position.
You have Travis Kelsey and your championship champ. Yes. Yes. You trading him from Mark Andrews? No. No, I will answer that. There's no way you'll do that. There's no way you'll do it because you want champ, champ, champ, champ. That's why the Travis Kelsey trade value is so interesting because if you have him. Someone who, anybody in here have Mark Andrews that wants to go send that offer through? It would be, it would be Damon. So. And you're going to decline it. I know you will. I would not. Mike would, and we would have to discuss. Here's the way I look at Travis Kelsey. Either you are a team that can compete. Maybe you don't look at yourself. I'm not the overwhelming favorite, but I'm going to make it into the playoffs. Then Travis Kelsey is invaluable to the team, like because he is such a competitive advantage at a position where other people are like, yeah, I got four points.
Oh, yeah, we did it, baby. I got one yard and one touchdown. I got seven points. And people are super stoked about that. So either you can compete and you have him. And championships are everything. In a dynasty league, they are everything. Or you can't compete and you go to someone who can compete and you make them pay the iron price. It is, it is a up and coming stud player. It is probably multiple first round picks because, Travis Kelsey, I think more than any other player in like a Dynasty League, can be the piece that turns a team that can compete into a championship contending team. The question being posed to Mike and I's co-managed team that we are really looking for the championship, champ, champ, the fourth championship in a row. We've got a bait over this. We're back-to-back title winners. Is the proof of what you're saying?
You're saying he is a difference maker to go from being a good team to winning the championship, which we have just done with Travis Kelsey the last three years. You make strong arguments. Our team has been good. Our teams have limped into the playoffs basically every year and only been a good team. And then Travis Kelsey does what Travis Kelsey does. And we end up winning championships. Kyle is just berating your team in the Slack channel. Let me tell you what I pay for Travis. Let me. I can tell you exactly what I paid to get Travis Kelsey last year in the Dynasty League. I have it right in front of me. All right. I gave up Travis Kelsey. You traded Kelsey. I'm sorry. Incredible. How did you pull that off? I call it the boomerang. I throw it out there and it comes right back to my team. The only trade I will take for Kelsey is I trade him to you and you trade him back to me. But I want something coming back on the return. You can taste him, but it's going to cost you a third round pick.
You can have a taste of him. A little dust for you. Take a screenshot. You have. Flex online and then sit in the back. You get a taste of a player on your team for no games. It's a screenshot taste. Yeah, but it's going to feel real good. Well, that didn't. I didn't do that well. I gave up Godwin, Gabe Davis, Dulcich, Warren, a second, and two thirds for Kelsey and Mike Evans. Yeah. I feel like I won that trade. Yeah, it seems like it. You were reading off. Do you feel that way now a year? I mean, I didn't win the title. I went to the semi-finals. Yeah, as you were reading, because like a lot, a lot of it comes down to Mike Evans and Chris Godwin of what is what is going to happen in Tampa Bay when Jason's champion, Kyle Trask is the one throwing touchdowns. It's not going to be Tracker, baby. It's going to be Baker. It's Baker.
Instagram question from Trevor, Najee Harris or Saquan Barkley in a dynasty startup. Oh, that's a fun. That's a, I know my answer. And I think, I know my answer is going to be different than consensus and majority. I, I would go Saquo. I would go Nagy. And I, I think most people would go Saquan. So Najee is 26. They're one year apart. He just turned 26. Nagy's 25 because he was a little bit older. I would go Saquan Barkley. Instagram question from Big Dog Ryan says, can you still be friends with a league mate if you found out they listened to the same fantasy football podcast? You can be better friends. I was going to say best friends. You want someone with a good sense of humor? You like people that dress nice? Yeah. That smell good? With things in common and probably handsome. Independently wealthy? Well, you know they listen here. So yeah, best friends. They read lots of books. What you do is drive a Dodge Stratis. You look at your league mates and you go,
That guy's a weirdo. That guy, that guy's awesome. Yeah. And then you already know. You already know they listen. Everybody that's awesome in your league listens to this show. Yeah. You just, it's hush, I tell you about it. And as soon as it's revealed, you become closer friends. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great question. That's a great question. Kyle on the website, who is the better keeper? Value. Crystal Lave for a sixth. Khalil Herbert for a ninth. That's not close. No. That was the end of the list. I was waiting for no name. No, that's a... Give me a lobby. Twitter question from Andy Shamir says, is it safe to drop Tom Brady in Dynasty? It's never safe. I just dropped Rob Brunkeowski this morning. I saw it because somehow, somehow Trace Serman was on our dynasty waiver. Jason, what did you do? Did I miss that? You were the one who had him. You were like...
I mean, you're like how to Andy get Trace Herman? Yeah, I saw it today and I was, I was, I was remiss. Your odds of Trace Sermon, and you picked him up because there was a little tiny little fluff piece out of Philadelphia of Trace Sermon has a chance to be good. But that's what we need. That is our source of life and dynasty over the off seas. It's like, wait. Wait, the coach said something positive about this player. I will pick him up. It was the most Brian Edwards piece of news that has ever come out about a player. It was like, Trace Serman always does something amazing in practice that makes us all turn our heads and then not play him. You got it. But you never know. Miles Sanders is gone. These players need to be at. Rashad Penny, his contract is not guaranteed that he's going to be on the Philadelphia Eagles. If he's on his health, the past of his health does not guarantee he's going to be playing multiple games.
So, yeah, you add these people. This is how you make moves in dynasty. And that's part of what makes it so fun. If you can get Jalen Waddle on your team, I'll swap, swap sermon for him. He has Waddle. So Jason just punished me by unplugging my charging cable on my laptop. That's right. And in a few hours, you are going to be really upset. It's the long con. Also, while doing that, I almost spilled my trip. Yes, yes. Okay. Here's a good one. Let's end with this one. Instagram question about an interesting player. Will Isaiah Pacheco surpass all expectations this upcoming season? Oh, man. And I think the chance. There's a chance the answer is yes. Thank you. Thank you. And there goes. Yes. There's a chance he does. And there is a chance that.
He vanishes and has never heard from again due to being a seventh round pick. So where are you currently have the chips? Yeah, but listen to this. I know. The feet are very fast. I lean on the side that I think he will disappoint for the expectations. There. Not going to do nothing. First round pick, Clyde Edwards O'Leary will be back. I was going to say, Clyde Edwards O'Lear will be back. That's not, you know, that isn't nothing. Close. But they're going. Right now they don't have McKinnon. So them adding a running back makes a lot of sense. And Pacheco, he's good. But like you said, Mike, seventh round running back, there's just a lot of history of these later round guys that they can be impressive and replaced. So.
That can happen, no doubt about it. He's being drafted in best ball ahead of Joe Mixon, ahead of Cam Acres, ahead of David Montgomery. The Joe Mixon best ball, current ADP, and I know on this show, the sentiment on Joe Mixon has been pretty negative of, it sounds like, is he going to be a cap casualty for the Cincinnati Bengals? If that happens, and he's going, I mean, at that point, there's going to mean no starting jobs where he can get the type of work. for the high-powered offense that he's currently on. But going at the running back 24, that to me almost sounds like they're saying we guarantee that this is what is going to happen to Joe Mixon. So I just say if I'm playing basketball, if I'm having the Jason amount of teams, I'm definitely grabbing Joe Mixon in a few of my drafts just in case. I like Pacheco and the situation because of Andy Reed and the Chiefs. His loyalty is not to.
Draft Capital Clyde Edwards-Alaire is not to age. Jared McKinn is 30 years old, played a massive role in bringing them to a Super Bowl. Their priority is to production and to how hard a player practices, how hard they play. Look, if they add another piece of the puzzle, I'll change my opinion completely. But today, today I'm comfortable. Like I would want Isaiah Pacheco on my fantasy team. Over, over Miles? Nope. Over David Montgomery? Nope. Over Cam Acres? This is turned quickly. If you look at the last... I mean, I think he's being drafted the right place. Let's put it that way. I think 22, 23. There's a few fellers going behind him that I would. He's not going to be alone in Kansas City. He's not going to be alone in Kansas City, and he doesn't catch the ball enough to really make an impact. The last nine games where Isaiah Pacheco looked great. He was on pace for 1195 rushing yards. That's great. Only seven touchdowns, but those fluctuate.
But 18 total receptions would have been his 17-game pace. You know, that's just barely more than a catch-a-game. That's not enough for fantasy. When you're talking about guys like Montgomery and Miles Sanders who have done more, have been given a lot more money in compensation, and you know that the path for their fantasy relevance should be easier and more obvious. I'll take them over Alger. Does that help? I would as well. Sure. That's right. We're in complete agreement. That is going to do it for today's episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Please leave us a review. Follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts. Lots more fantasy football goodness coming your way. Rookies, here we go. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers.