Week 6 Waivers & Streamers + Jason Weeps - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/10

On today's episode, we're going to jump into some of this very unfortunate injury news that has been breaking. It's a big time waiver show, lots and lots of situations that we've got to analyze. Make sure you subscribe to this channel right now. Leave us some comments and enjoy. To the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome into the podcast. It's the fantasy footballers podcast. Don't be nasty. It's me. You boy. Mike, the fantasy hitman, right, joined by Jay Gris, the cardboard bear extraordinaire. And to my right, the shell of a man, there is nothing left inside. This is a solo show, our first solo show. Mike, you will be saying all of the words from here on out. There was a lot of injury news that got blasted out this morning.

None of it good for Jason Moore. None of it neutral. Why did it have to be all of my guys? Why? Look, none of it good for those players and for fantasy football players and those teams. But we make it very personal. And the two big injuries are both on Jason's team. We will certainly get into that. Hey, before we get into the, oh, the recap of that Monday night game. What a game we got. Prime time. They gave us their best. Look, football started being great for me last night and just kept on this morning. What a great game this is. It is your last chance. There is a signed Christian McCaffrey jersey. We are giving it away at footclan giveaway.com. Just all you do is go to that website. Do a couple things to help the show. Everything there is free. And look.

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At Andy Holloway. You can find Jason. I don't know if you've tweeted anything today at Jason FFL. I am at FF Hitman. You can find me six feet under the ground. If you want to go digging, that's where you'll find me. All right. Before we get into that, the Monday night football game, the Green Bay Packers, 13 points. The Las Vegas Raiders, 17 points. Just an absolute screaming fart fest from both teams. Jordan Love looks like he was fully exposed and teams know how to beat him now. I mean, it's just one game, but it's the Raiders defense. And this is a defense that you want to target. Jordan Love barely completed more than 50% of his passes through three interceptions, 182 yards, no touchdowns. Really, all of his production came on a...

Close your eyes and pray and throw the ball up to Christian Watson and then Watson. Which should have been a beautiful bomb touchdown. Right, but the pass was so-so. So Watson ends up with 91 yards. Everyone else on this team, including Romeo Dobbs, who had one catch for four yards. Jaden Reed had one catch for seven yards. Musgrave was the only valuable pass catcher for Green Bay. He had 34 yards on six catches. So that's not the worst. And then. because people are no longer playing him. He's on multiple waiver wires. Of course, AJ Dillon finally gets volume and has himself an okay day, 76 yards on the ground and a touchdown. I think there was a swath of people that started him because of what happened with the late, somewhat unexpected Aaron Jones inactive. It was, you know, we knew he was struggling with the injury. He was on the injury report, but.

I think it was surprising to most people because this was an injury that kept him out. And then he came back last week and played in that game. I was very surprised. And to no one's knowledge was, you know, he finished that game to the best of my memory. He was very limited. He was limited. But, you know, that's like as you, as you progress back. from the hamstring injury. And so all the limitations just seemed like normal and he was going to be back to full strength. And then I was like, eh, he's actually inactive. He's not going to be there. So AJ Dylan, hopefully was not just on people's benches because of that news. On the other side, the, the, the, the ineptitude of the Packers was only slightly bested by the Raiders, who Fat Thor, aka Josh Jacobs, continues to plot along.

20 for 69 yards and a touchdown. He did have a big 24-yard carry, which kind of saved things for him, and he's involved in the passing game. So look, he ended up with a... It's a fine fantasy day. Yeah, 90 yards, a touchdown, five receptions. I mean, he had a really decent fantasy production. You might not have thought he looked the best in this game, and honestly, against the Packers run defense that hasn't been very stout. I think you would have expected more. But this game was, I mean, I think it was just really well said. It was a fart fest. Just absolute stinker. The offenses were bested by two middling defenses. I mean, the Packers have a good defense. The Raiders have a bad, just a straight up bad defense. Like the Raiders defense is not middle of the pack. They're one of the defenses to target. Except.

Last night they were outstanding. I mean, obviously you got Max Crosby, who's a great player, but like they just were completely dominant. You're right. They expose Jordan Love, who's been good for fantasy every single week. This matchup looked like a one to target. But the game just really sucked. And I don't know, maybe it was the lack of any single offensive player on either side being able to. explode and do dominant things like for instance devante adams speaking of targets decoy adams devante yes decoy adams believe he had one target for one catch in the first half he was he was out there on the field mike and i in our champ champ champ team our dino junior roster that we co-managed together i mean we basically already knew we were winning yeah we needed about three points from adams about three points from devonte adams no big deal

We went into halftime like, it's not going to happen. We're not getting three. And it took, it still took fourth quarter, I think, before we finally crossed the three-point threshold. And it still barely happened because Adams was four for 45. Mind-blowing stuff, not featuring Devante Adams. He's injured. I mean, he, yes, you could say that he's injured. But especially that the, it wasn't, it didn't turn into a big point. Maybe it was a third down. But there was a route where he sold the go and then hit the brakes and ran an end. It was like a three-yard in. And just he roasted two DBs. And it was like the easiest pitch and catch of all time for Jimmy Garoppos. I don't know what we're doing here. But Jacoby Myers continues to have a great season seven for 75 with a score. He led the team by a lot with 10 targets. Josh Jacobs was second with five. I mean.

Hopefully Adams is going to heal up. We did have a report that ESPN believes the Raiders will not trade Devante Adams before the October 31st trade deadline. But, oh, man. Come on. Come on, Garoppolo. Yeah, I'm not worried at all about Devante Adams. This is a guy who has been dominating, has a shoulder injury, you know, got the shot, got out there. You know, we saw this with Diba. couple weeks ago. When you're injured and you're out there, that doesn't mean necessarily that you are who we're going to be targeting. His routes to get open, well, of course they're going to be great. He's Devonte Adams. His shoulder isn't going to really get in the way of his routes, but they might not be trying to give him a lot of targets and a lot of hits. And, you know, so the first read was probably more often Jacobi Myers, who's been pretty good this year. Yeah, Jacobi's been great. The Patriots sure could use him.

Do you have anything else you want to cover from this game? I'd like to take gas X and move on. All right. Are you sure, Jane? You sure about that? No. No, I'm not sure about that. Into the news. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA insurance. Farts of plenty, everybody. Here we go. The Vikings plan to place wide receiver Justin Jefferson. on injured reserve because of the hamstring injury he suffered in Sunday's loss. If he's on the ire, he is out at least four games. Schefter, um, Schefter was like, hey, could be a lot more if the Vikings don't win games. Guess what the Vikings aren't going to do without Justin Jefferson. Oh, yeah. So there's that. We'll react to that in the waiver wire. But hey, Dolphins running back, Devon, A. Chan. Oh, my, my boy. He's expected to miss.

Oh, this song is getting saddered. It's expected to miss multiple weeks with his knee injury suffered this past Sunday. He is getting a second opinion to determine whether or not he needs to be on the IR. Oh, God. It's not season ending. Hmm. Well, great. Great, great, great, great, great, great. So. Well, guess who has those two players in the League of Record if you couldn't tell? That, I mean, losing Jefferson for... Jason is headbutting his microphone. Losing Jefferson for four, at least four. That's devastating. Losing the the pickup of the year so far in A-chan for, we still don't know. This is the number one wide receiver going into the week. Yeah. This is the number three running back on the season. I don't remember a time ever in the history of fantasy football where basically two top three guys of the number one wide receiver of top three running back went down the same week.

But here we are. And I have both of them. And it feels really good. And in addition to that, they are, well, they didn't leave these games with injuries getting marked out of the games. So on platforms, don't worry, guys. They aren't eligible for your IR. Unless these guys get put on IR before waivers go through tomorrow. But they're not going to do that. No, they're not going to do that. They're going to wait until Sunday. Yeah, they will not force them on to IR. I'm so angry. Okay, so here's, look, a little, a little vent time. All right. The floor is yours. I need to have let it out cathartic action. I don't know what to do. So I am with, so you're listening here, Fookland. You probably lost guys. Maybe you lost James Connor. You're dealing with whoever. There's a lot of injuries going around. I don't know exactly what to do. Our league of record is a keeper league. So we care.

Even more than just about this year. We care about the future. Mike and I both sold out last year. Yeah. Came into this year with no picks left. We had like two picks each by the seventh round. Thankfully, I got the championship last year. Sorry, Mike. Yeah, no, that's fair. But I assumed I wouldn't be playing for this season with my lack of draft capital. Here I was. Doing well. I've got the third most points in the league. I've lost Austin Echler. I lost J.K. Dobbins. I lost his replacement. Justice Hill. Now I've lost Justin Jefferson and Devon A. Chain. A. Chan. And I'm like, do I sell? Do I wait? I've got a losing record with the third most points in the league. I'm just struggling. But I have a saying in fantasy that is important for the Footland because I don't care if you start 0 and 4, 0 and 5. You can make the playoffs. I'm going to get these stars back.

You can always compete. So I say, no, never give up, never surrender. No. Thank you, Tim Allen. So we march on. We're going to get to the waiver wire section in a little bit. This is the craziest waiver wire week. Like there are, there are four different teams where there are several players. Or you could take your shot at being right. Nothing is clear. Nothing is perfectly clear. And so we're going to try to make the most logical decisions, the highest probability bets and help you order your waivers. But this is, I'm in nine leagues right now. I need like a, I need 12 hours to set my waivers this week. Also on the injury report, Cardinals running back James Connor is expected to miss multiple weeks with the knee injury. He got versus the Bengals. He is.

possibly a candidate for the injured reserve. So that is a situation to monitor. The Cardinals immediately signed Tony Jones Jr., aka Tony, Tony, James, or Brooks James Jones, Jr. Thank you. So they picked them up. We will be talking about Cardinals running backs and how we're looking at that situation. Dan Campbell says he feels, quote, pretty good. Is that how he said it? No, but that's how he said. That sounds just like Dan Campbell. Pretty good. Pretty good about Amon Ross St. Brown playing, who has the abdomen injury, which that makes me feel good because I was in the back of your head when you see someone missing all the practices in the game with an abdomen, you feel like you're just, you're on a ticking clock of sports hernia surgery. So if we are feeling pretty good that he's going to be back,

Yes, we will take that news on this dark, dark Tuesday. Deshaun Watson remains day to day with what sources are saying is a rotator cuff contusion. He was medically cleared last week, so he's going to take his time, make sure that he doesn't jeopardize his already fully guaranteed contract. And we'll see, TBD, but this is horrific. It is. Wait, he has to play the 49ers this week? I'm pretty sure it's feeling real bad. It's still, I think it needs one more week. Sorry, coach. Yeah, sorry. I just, man, I tried it. I really want to go. I just, I really want to get out there and play. But I just can't. It's just, just not right. Yeah. And so he's coming out of the body. He's got San Francisco the following week.

the Indianapolis Colts. I think he's going to be feeling a lot better by that week. Yeah. If you have ancillary pieces, you need them. If you've got Jerome Ford, if you've got Amari Cooper, these are guys that if the rookie goes in behind them against San Francisco 49ers, it's a must bench all assets of the Browns. Like, I would, if you have to drop someone to waivers, not Cooper, but like you, you can't. get points with that backup against the Niners. No, Dorian Thompson, Robinson looked way over his head in that matchup when he got the start. Bill's tight end Dalton Kincaid was placed in the concussion protocol on Monday. Being placed in on Monday, you have to imagine that he will miss this upcoming weekend. Thursday night football injury report estimated because they don't have an actual practice on Monday, but estimated.

Travis Kelsey listed as a did not practice. Giovante Williams with the quad was listed as limited. Okay. This is, again, we'll talk about it when we get to tight ends. But Travis Kelsey, if you are a Travis Kelsey manager, you need to be looking at the waiver wire. You need to pick someone up to have a pivot. They play on Thursday. The nice thing is, if he plays on 30, pick up your replacement now. And if he plays on Thursday, you'll be able to cut that player. Yes. The tight end you picked up and pick up another player heading into the weekend. So it's not going to be too catastrophic. But there is a good chance despite him finishing the game that his ankle will swell up and he won't be able to play on short notice Thursday. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usAA.com slash insurance. Put me in, coach. This week we have two teams on by. We got the Packers and the Steelers. Be ready though because week seven.

is approaching. What are we going to do without all those Packers and Steelers options, Mike? Well, I don't have to play Najee. You're going to count your blessings that you don't have to start any of those guys. But week seven, six teams. Apocalypse. It is approaching. You may want to hear this waiver wire and start being very proactive about next week because Bengals, Cowboys, Jets, Panthers, Texans, Titans. All on the by. That's going to be fun. IR players who are eligible to return soon. Greg Dulcich, which is a name worth mentioning. I don't know. We should throw him into our tight-in waiver wire as well. Yeah. That he is eligible to come back. And look, the Broncos absolutely need him. Deontay Johnson, who is. You know who the Broncos need? Who's that? Marvin freaking Mibbs.

Tell me, are you kidding me? He's maxed out, man. They can't score points. They have no explosive weapons on offense, and they've got this guy who has like five plays of 40 yards. He's got like 70 yard plays. He hasn't played more than 12 snaps in a game. 12 routes. 12, yes, he hasn't ran more than 12 routes in a game. Jason, do you understand how much energy it takes to run that fast? Like, you know, in a video game when you're holding down your turbo button and your nitro just goes, he can only do 12 rounds. Okay, I apologize. Coach Peyton can't possibly use him more. It would not work out. But Deonti Johnson is eligible to return starting next week. He is an interesting trade for candidate, and Jamal Williams could be back for the Saints. Here we go. At the running back position, lots of injury situations to talk about. We're going to start off with the Chicago Bears.

Khalil Herbert dealing with that high ankle sprain, he's going to miss a bunch of time. So we have Roshan Johnson, the fourth round rookie who has been playing a ton, has been rumored and whispered about pretty much every single weekend of this is it. This is the time that he's going to surpass Khalil Herbert. He has not done that. But now he has an opportunity. However, he left last week's game with a concussion. So we are not even sure that Roshan Johnson will be playing. But you have Roshan Johnson, you have Deontah Foreman, who was a free agent pickup by the Chicago Bears. He has not been playing because he is not a special team's running back. Travis Homer is, but Homer also had his own injury on Sunday. So how are you looking at the Bears, Jason? We got a delightful matchup. You have three pretty good matchups here for the Bears. Yeah. Minnesota.

Las Vegas, both of those games at home, and then on the road against the Chargers. There's value to extract here. It is a great run for one of these guys while Khalil Herbert misses time. With a high ankle sprain, we've brought this up several times. Edwin Porras has mentioned this on his Twitter. The data says that usually you miss zero games with a high ankle sprain or you miss three. Basically, if it's going to keep you out, if it's going to cause issues, three games is the timeline to get back on the field. I think that's what the situation is going to be here. That's how I'm approaching waivers is three missed games. And on top of that, when the guys come back, they always see a decline in performance. So this particular one, this situation is like if Roshan Johnson plays well, I think this is the Chicago Bears chance of they're going to say, well, you were around, you were playing well, so you're going to take the starter job. So I can definitely see that happening. He was obviously playing ahead of Deonti Foreman.

If we knew that Roshan Johnson was active this week, I would push my chips towards his direction over Deont de Forman. That being said, he left the game with a concussion issue. I have not seen if he is in protocol or not. If anybody can find information on that, we'll pay attention to that. If he goes into protocol, this year, pretty much if you go into protocol, you're going to miss a game. And so if he's missing to me, Deonta Foreman. He is my number two pickup of the week at the running back position, my number one from the Bears. So I think that Deonta Foreman is a great pickup. You could be in a situation against Minnesota where you don't have Khalil Herbert and you don't have Rocheon Johnson. Deontiformin will get, you know, whatever work there is to be had should be a great start. And if he performs well, I think you could see a situation where you see all the time in the NFL where the guy who is.

not even active for games, but he projects to be that first and second down role type of player. Like, I think that's why Rocheon has been active over Deont-Forman is because the role they want Rochon Johnson playing is that pass-catching third-down type of guy. So I think that it is very realistic where Dea-Forman goes out this week has a very good week. The following week, when Rochon clears protocol, Deontza-Forman is in the Khalil Herbert role, and they leave Rochon in the Rochon role. So I've got Deontza Foreman ahead of Roshan Johnson, personally. That's how I would do it. Both you and Andy, Andy has done his waivers from his little vacation in the woods. He's got his chips on Roshan Johnson. I think the reason, if I may speak for you guys, is just you believe more in the talent. Yes. And you're wanting to bet on the player himself. Yes. Deonti Foreman is far more available. We're seeing a roster percent of 14 where Roshan's about half of leagues.

not taking into account inactive dead leagues. I get it. There's a strong chance that Rochon is not on your waiver, but he could be there. I think both of them are great ads. And look, against Minnesota, with Minnesota not having Justin Jefferson, like they will not be the offense that they have been in past weeks. They will be a deteriorated version of that. Justice Hill from the Baltimore Ravens, remains pretty available, and he just, he gets work. It is, Gus Edwards is the number one guy. No. No, did he not? He overtook him this last week. He took the snaps back? He did. I missed that. He was the leader in snaps. So this is, this is the situation with J.K. Dobbins. He was the guy I wanted when the injury happened. Justice Hill? Yes. You said J.K. Dobbins got injured. Gotcha. The guy that I wanted was Justice Hill.

Personally, I wanted him over to the Gus bus, both good players. But what we saw when J.K. Dobbins went down and what we saw in kind of preseason training camp was Justice Hill was utilized a lot in this style of offense where they're passing a little bit more to the running back. And then Justice Hill went down to his own injury. So we didn't get a chance to see it. He's worked his way back. And yet last game was the first time we saw him fully healthy. And he was the lead guy in that backfield. So this is a different situation because they're coming up against Tennessee and Detroit, two teams that you don't want to run on unless your name is Zach Moss and you're the greatest running back of all time. Of course. But this is also a rest of season situation. J.K. Dobbins isn't coming back. You know, most of these other injuries, you know, James Connor and the Arizona situation, Khalil Herbert, like those guys are coming back. So I don't mind going, Justice Hill should not be on waivers.

Agreed. And he's on waivers in almost 70% of leagues. So he's a full season-long pickup of someone that he's not going to win you a championship by himself. He's not going to get the footy award for waiver pickup of the season. But this is a guy who you can flex or play as you're running back to probably every single week the rest of the year. And that is really valuable just sitting on waiver. I agree. Unfortunately, Tennessee and Detroit are next on the docket for the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah. Not the best matchup. All right. So let's talk about Arizona. James Connor expected to miss multiple weeks. You have Amari DeMarcato, who is available. Rookie sensation. He is available in your league. Yeah. I'll put it that way. So Connor goes out, week five. He is the next man up. He plays a whole bunch of snaps. 77% of snaps. 10 for 45 with a touchdown. Three targets.

But we have the wild card of Kianti Ingram has been missing a few weeks here with a neck injury. He's not a good player. That is my stance on Kianti Ingram. You've had that stance for a long time. Just because of what my eyeballs see. I'm sorry, Ingram. I'm not, no, I'm not. I'm not sorry. You're not a good player. But DiMarcato had. Some juice. I mean, he got it done when James Connor was out against the Bengals. In a game, they're trying to come back. They get to play the Rams, the Seahawks, and Baltimore. How are you approaching the Arizona running backs? And let's also, how aggressive are you? Real quick, I'm sorry, back to the Bears. How aggressive are you going to be going after Deont de Foreman if he is your number two pickup this week? So this week is wild because this week there are.

six, seven, eight guys that you can... We have more. We got to talk about. That you could take shots on. Oh, yeah. This section on running backs is going to be about 12 more hours. So I don't think I'm going to overpay on... There isn't to me one guy that is like, I have to have him. I have to have Deonta Foreman, not DiMarcato. I have to have them, not Jeff Wilson, or not taking a shot on the dolphin situation, or not Justice Hill. So I feel like personally... I want to go out there and I want to get the cheaper option of, you know, I'll put out $15 bids and I'll shotgun him around. Okay. And I'll see who I get because I don't think that we can be brash enough to really order these guys perfectly. I would put Deontiformin personally ahead. So maybe I'll go a little bit more on that. But also, there are teams that are just absolutely in need. You have to have a start and you have to have a start this week.