Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Week 17 Matchups, In-or-Out, Playoff Decisions

Because he got a touchdown. Giants, Washington. Seven and a half point favors. Washington is favored. It's a 44.5 point over under. Of course, Washington is favored because the Giants have no reason to play. They were talking about resting their starters. Were they? The Giants? Yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah. They were talking about it before it was cool. Before Dallas jumped in and said, hey, maybe that's, maybe that's a good idea. If I have nothing to play for, I'm going to.

keep my players healthy for the playoffs. So it's just, I'm not, I don't want to trust anybody from the New York side of it. You got to like the guys from Washington. They are playing for their lives. I believe if Washington, Washington wins, they're in. Is that correct? Yes. So, well, no, no, no. That's not correct. They need the line. Washington, Washington's not in if Green Bay wins.

If Green Bay wins Washington? I need to look this up. Yeah, no. If Washington wins, then they're dependent on Detroit losing to get that last spot. I'm looking here. Washington, yeah. Right? You can confirm that. I'm almost, because Green Bay can't miss the playoffs. Yeah. I don't, Jay, do you remember? Yeah. No, that's what it is. And if I'm wrong.

Sue me. Twitter will tell me. Regardless. No, because Green Bay can't miss the playoffs. So if Washington wins and Detroit loses, Washington's in. Okay. So either way, they got a win to get in. Kurt Cousins bounced back just fine by vulturing all of Robert Kelly's touchdowns. Robert Kelly is interesting this week from the fact that we don't know exactly how much he will play. He got decently banged up.

A knee injury last week was in and out of the game after that. And you saw Thompson and just his, you saw Kelly's. And Brown. And Brown. And you saw his touchdowns just get vultured away. I like, this is a circumstance where I normally wouldn't love guys like D. Jacks or Garsohn or Crowder. I mean, the Giants past defense. I know they're 20 seconds in terms of yardage allowed, but they've.

I feel like they've had a very solid defense through the entire season with Jenkins being a shutdown guy. But I think Robert Kelly plays and I think you should play him. You're on board with Robert Kelly this week? This week I am. Okay. Yeah. And what about the pass catchers? Because I'm playing all of them. Yeah, I mean, you're kind of boxed in by week 17. And so I don't think based on how D.J, Garcin, and Crowder have played, I think you're playing them. I don't have any confidence in Reed or Davis. I agree. And on the other side.

If I'm picking a running back, I'm picking Perkins. And if I'm picking a pass catcher, you know, other than O'Dell Beckham Jr., it's Shepard because he's found his way into the end zone. So this game's a 44.5 point over under. The Redskins are heavily favored in it. Yeah, that's about how I feel. Everything you said is exactly what I would say. So we can move. So let's go lay of the land here, Raiders and Broncos. Okay. Oakland's motivated to get the two spot. They still have a shot at the one.

They're competing with Kansas City, right, for the two-spot? Correct. Kind of a big deal, I would think, for the Raiders. Not that it being a big deal is going to make this game any easier, but having an extra week of preparation for Matt McLeon, having the buy week would be big. Would be big. And I think, you know, the Broncos are obviously very beatable. This game, they're favored because they're at home, but you've got the Paxton Lynch potential start.

You really haven't seen anything on the offensive side. It's just a matter of can McGloin score anything against Denver? Yeah, this is going to be a tough game. It's the opposite of the Atlanta game from a fantasy perspective because not only do you have like the Atlanta game, you have two stud quarterbacks in a high projected game. Here you have two inexperienced quarterbacks in a low projected game.

It makes you really hesitate about the Cooper's and Crabtree. Yeah, Cooper and Crabtree, I've got them buried. I can't even fathom starting either one of those guys. I would start probably 45 different wide receivers over either of those guys. That far down? Yeah. To me, Magloin against the Broncos, how are you getting the ball to him? However.

I have, I know you disagree on this one, Andy, but I really like Latavius Murray. And I also like DeAndre Washington in this game. Because if you're the Raiders and you're coming into this game that you need to win and you cannot pass the ball. But your offensive line in the run game is just better. I mean, last time they just humiliated the Broncos. They ran the same play 10 times in a row. And they could not be stopped. No, you're right. And so you would take.

The Washington over Richard as the secondary running back. And I would be willing to play. Because of last week. Yeah. I mean, I think the tables have turned on that. Deandra Washington is the guy they drafted to be that. And they, you know, they gave him, they sent him a message midseason. And now they let him back into the fold and he's played great. I just don't know who it'll be. I agree with the whole, the whole argument that there'll be another guy in the running game that matters. By the way, I need to apologize to the listeners. I made a mistake.

When I quoted Amari Cooper losing a reception for four yards, he gained a reception for four yards. So same impact, but it was just if your opponent had Amari Cooper, then they beat you because he picked up a, you know, if you had a close matchup. So I misspoke when I said he lost one. He gained one. And then obviously that means Derek Carr gained a pass completed in four yards in the changeover. So quite a few stack corrections for weeks 17, 16.

All right, we're going to talk about, you know, Fawcett and Booker. Are you starting either guy? I think I would start Booker. Would you? You feel like it's swung back enough? I mean, it's... Foresat scored last week. Yeah, it seems like the time share. Oh, man, I don't know who I would start over those two. I think I would start Fawcett. Man, this could be an ugly game. Yeah, it really, really could be. That's a game that could be, I mean, it could be 10 to 3.

13 to 13 to 3 13 to 6 I mean it could be a really ugly game unless the defense scores right mcgloy all right cardinals rams looks like the cardinals are six and a half point favorites another game that could be uh you know could be a little ugly for any if you're starting anybody on the offensive side of the the rams for sure you know the cardinals are favored 40 and a half point over under you're starting palmer

Yeah, I like Palmer. Options are limited in week 17. I like the Arizona pass catchers. I'm good with fits. J.J. Nelson is being unleashed. And we saw a connection with Palmer and J.J. Nelson last week where that's the thing that's really been missing from the Cardinals game is those deep shots were just, they've not been connecting all year. So if J.J. and Palmer are getting that going.

I mean, it was only one. It's only been a couple. But if they're going to get that going, then they're both going to be great plays. Big Gresh will do what he does, which is four for 40, five for 40, right around there. So he's still a fine play. If a little start of the week junior here. Oh. I'm just throwing it out there. I think John Brown might have a game. Oh.

I think John. On what grounds? On the grounds that he started to get more involved again last week. He already returned to practice this week. They're just limiting practice reps to keep him healthy due to the sickle cell situation. I saw some things last week that made me think that maybe they're going to get on the same page. It'd be great to get him a positive game heading into the offseason for a guy that was so impactful.

Yeah, no, I like him. And I was wrong. I'm sorry. I didn't mean in the Seattle game. But two weeks ago, he was five for 81 and a touchdown. He showed that he's still there. So I'm just putting it out there. I'm really hoping he gets right in the offseason because the Arizona Cardinals need him. And he can be a valuable fantasy guy. In the meantime, I do like JJ Nelson better. He's that last year's Ted Ginn play where you're hoping for one or two of those bombs. We saw, I think it was two weeks ago, where.

He also, in addition to what he did grab, he dropped that. Yes. He scored in four straight weeks. So that tells you what you need to know about J.J. Nelson right now. Todd Gurley, we liked him last week. He helped you do a title if he played in week 16. Don't like him this week. I agree. Not one bit. Cardinals defense is pretty good against the run. And Gurley just hasn't been able to get it done against good defenses. Or bad defense. Or bad defenses. I would say the only pass catcher.

from the Rams that I'm interested in would be Brian Quick. It would be a glory play, but he had success the last time these two teams played. If he gets to match up with who's our, who's the William, Brandon Williams? Williams, Williams. Not Cooper, Brandon Williams, they're throwing him out there. If Quick gets matched up on Williams at the right time, he could go.

Honestly, if Tavon Austin or Quick or Brent, if any of them get matched up on Brandon Williams, they can score. I could. They don't play Tavon the way that quick. Quick is a deep threat. I'm just saying if I'm playing anyone from this team, that's what I'm interesting. I agree, but I'm not playing anyone from the team. You guys good? Yep. Chiefs Chargers. The Kansas City Chiefs take on the San Diego Chargers. Chargers are six point dogs. It's a 44.5 point over under. This game's in San Diego.

Clear weather, but Kansas City is motivated to win this game, and they've been playing so well. They want that number two spot. I don't blame them. Be nice. Be nice to get a home game, and it would be nice to get a buy. So Smith and Rivers. Man. Sounds like they should manufacture weaponry. Yes. Smith and Rivers. Ooh, I got my new Smith and Rivers rifle. Yeah. Are you okay riding Rivers into the championship? No. No, no, I'm not.

I'm okay if I, you know, if I had Big Ben, then I have to be okay with it. But no, I don't feel good about that in this game. I mean, the Chief's defense is good enough to slow rivers down to make, you know, to make this game more about the runners, I think. And now is this the last, this is in San Diego? Yeah. Is this the last game in San Diego for the Chargers? Unknown. Could be.

Yeah, we've heard the rumors. The rumors in the bushes are they might move up to L.A. to join the Rams. Yeah, as early as 2017. What rank is Philip Rivers on this season? Quarterback? Yeah, I'm going to guess 14 or 15. I'm going to go 16. I'm going to go higher than that. I'm going to go 12. Eight. Ha, ha. Man, he is. I win. He's just throwing so many interceptions. How many consecutive weeks has Philip Rivers?

And that is true. The interceptions have destroyed him. How many consecutive weeks with two or more touchdowns? Consecutive? Four. Six. Eight. Wow. Went again. All right. Eight consecutive games. In fact. I need to apologize to Philip. Only four games this year he has not had at least two. He's been playing better than I thought. Yeah. I mean, he's been okay. I mean, it's just, it's been two touchdowns in each of the last four weeks. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets two more against Kansas City.

So that's probably enough for you to, 202. Hopefully not throwing four picks, five picks. Yeah, well, he's throwing a pick in six straight games. Yeah, he's been bad on that front. Spencer Ware, 12 picks in the last six games. Yeah. Oof. Isn't that good? All right. Spencer Ware is a fine play. We talked about Gordon already. This week, assuming that he suits up, he's got the sore ribs, but I'm okay playing him against the Chargers. If Gordon doesn't play.

Do you start Hillman? Yeah, I think Hillman would be a volume play where, you know, when you're, when you're scratching a week 17, he could be okay. I mean, you got, who's behind him? Andre Williams, the, uh, the sensation out of New York. Yep. All right. Tyrell Williams, Tyreek, Hill, Jeremy Macklin, Don Trell Inman, the wide receivers. What are the storylines here for fantasy owners decisions to be made? You know, I feel confident with Tyrell. I feel confident with Tyreke.

I love Michael Keaton. I let you down now. Yeah, no, I feel very confident with Tyreek. I mean, you feel very confident? I do, because last week he got six carries or something like that, five or six carries. And zero receptions for two straight weeks. That's fine. I mean, you know, I'm confident with Thai Montgomery. And if they want to use him more as a running back than as a wide receiver, so long as they are giving him touches. If they're manufacturing, getting the ball in his hands,

then I'm confident. And so that's where it's like, if, you know, if double digits in seven of 10 games. Yeah, I'm playing him. I'm just not overly confident about it. It's the. Is that from the moment that Macklin got back? Because he had receptions from week 10 on 10, 4, 9, 5, 6, 0.