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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 15 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, Championship Prep

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Clearly the lead back in Green Bay. Incredible. Incredible game for Time Montgomery. About time that they figured out, they just need to give him the ball as a running back. Zecchio Elliott, David Johnson, big boy games. Not that you were sitting them. No. Ryan Matthews. This is where we have to pause. All right. Ryan Matthews, baby, against the Ravens. I'm wide away.

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Oh, wait. That's a different guy. That's a different guy. You have the same type of... The woke one also had a good game. Unnecessary love for Ryan. He is... Unnecessary. Yes. Darren Sproles out. Wendell Smallwood. I are. Kenyon Barner got hurt. And now Ryan Matthews gets a shot. Here's Mike's contention. And it's mine as well. That he's good. Ryan Matthews is great.

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He is a very good running back. He has always looked good when given the opportunity. This year with the Eagles, he has done nothing. Last year with the Eagles, he has done nothing to prove anything other than when you give him opportunity, he produces. He, oh, so does Adrian Peterson. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say Adrian Peterson. Did you just compare Ryan Matthews to Adrian Peterson? No, I compared fumbling to Adrian Peterson. Emmett Smith fumbled before. Ryan Matthews is a very good running back, and it's a shame that.

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Doug Peterson, even Chip Kelly, they won't use him as their just weekly starter. And granted, when they do, he'll probably break in the glass. Look, I don't think any of us, look, I'm just playing devil's advocate to a degree. He had a great game, 24-128. Against the Ravens. I know. I know. Just pointed out. But when multiple coaches make decisions about your playing time.

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It's not just fumbles. It's how you do the little things. It's how you block. It's how you know the offense. Is he responsible for making some of these mistakes? Is he too injury prone? There's a lot of storylines there. I'm just saying. When you give him the ball, yes, good things tend to happen. But between the, two coaches have decided three coaches because they let him go in San Diego.

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So three coaches have said we'd rather not have them be our main back. Hopefully this week Doug Peterson comes out and says that they really need Darren Sproul's back and that he's still. There you go. Because that means Ryan Matthews will be good to go. Jordan Howard had the crazy game. Good start. Missed some time. Great finish. 17 for 90 and a touchdown. Really a good player. Just a great player. Has Washington and Minnesota on the schedule. You can ride him into the championship week. Ball, pal, really looked good.

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11 checkdown receptions for 78 yards to go with 16 for 84 behind the line of scrimmage. Really a great game. Yeah, it was a fantastic game. He is a tremendous running back. And that was, that was a tough situation on Saturday. You were waiting for the news of his Matt Forte going to be active. Is it okay, Forte is active? He was literally, when they roll the, the intros, those video intros, these guys are, let's look at the starting offense.

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Matt Forte was in that role. But then Bilal Powell was on the field and Forte barely saw the field. So hopefully you still had the courage to play him. To me, as soon as Forte was active, it was, well, Powell's probably just a flex. I mean, he's still worth playing. Strange that Forte got his carries towards the end of a game that was over. Yeah.

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Bizarre things. Yeah. But Powell's going to be one of those storylines. You've got to keep it right here on the fancy footballers because we're going to catch you up on what takes place with Matt Forte's injury and the expectations we have for Powell this week. Because he could be a championship winner if he's put in the right position. Good. Double trouble there in Tennessee. DeMarco Murray and Travis Henry. I just said Travis Henry. Is that the – I went way back to the old – That's the wrestler. No, Travis Henry was running back. Going way back, man.

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But Derek Henry, Derek Henry and DeMarco Murray had big games. I want to know right now, who wins the division? Houston 8 and 6, Tennessee 8 and 6, Colts 7 and 7 right now. Who wins that division? Because that, you know, if you don't win it, you're probably not going to get in. Is Tom Savage the quarterback? That's a great question. I honestly, can't tell you. I think, I think that Houston. Houston with Tom Savage.

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would be my pick. Otherwise, I'm going to stick with the best quarterback in the division. And that's still Andrew Luck. Yeah. Eileen the Titans. So they, there are lean Titans. Okay. Okay. We're split. But it was, man, it was the week of the vulture. I mean, that happens if vultures always happen, but Robert Turbin, tremendous week after giving Frank Gore just feeding Frank Gore.

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Okay, we're going to give, we're going to give Bob Turbin the old touchdowns. Well, Frank Gore went over 100 yards as well, got 26 carries. That's what I mean. But he was, but all the goal line work was realized. If the Colst don't beat Oakland this week, they can't win that division. Right. So big game. That's going to be, uh, and that game is in Oakland. Timmy Hightower, revenge game, two touchdowns against the team that drafted him. Uh, the aforementioned Derek Henry, two touchdowns. I mean, there was that.

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I moved Derek Henry way up. There was a huge play where Murray, I believe it was a reception, gets knocked out on the corner, almost gets the pile on. They go, okay, put Derek Henry in there. Yeah, because the people want to win, Mike. They want to win the game. Just Mike Gillisley. This was the week of the vulture. Robert Turban. It was. Gillisley. That's what I just said. Yeah. Wide receiver studs, Brandon Cooks. Oh, my goodness. Torched the Cardinals.

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Oh, my goodness. Seven for 186 and two touchdowns. Tyler Lockett, seven for one 30 in a touchdown. Jarvis Landry. Jarvis Landry had three catches. I know. The 66 yard touchdown really won it over for him. I, I threw major shade on Jarvis Landry both on our show this past week. I also in my rankings.

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I had personal leagues where I wasn't touching him. And it looked exactly like I thought until he broke away for the 66 yards. And I apologize. Yeah. I mean, those sometimes guys are good at football. There were a number of good performers that helped you this week like Alshan Jeffrey and Cameron Meredith and Deontay Thompson. Hey, John Brown, remember him? Yeah, spoke. So does John Brown have any relevancy for fantasy owners in Seattle next week?

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In Seattle is tough, so probably not. You answered your own question. I answered my own question with a fart. O'Dell Beckham, Jr. That catch, man. He just does it every week. Did you see that other play they gave him credit for? Did either of you see it? I think four-yard catch that was not challenged. Oh, yes. His first catch. Yes. That was absolutely ridiculous. The ball hit him in the hands, then bounced off the ground, and then they said, catch. It's like the most hilarious screenshot. It's up there with that Duke Johnson.

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Fumble recovery where Duke Johnson's holding the ball and they're like pointing the opposite direction. Call upheld. How do you not challenge that? Well, because it's a four-yard catch. Yeah, exactly. And whether you succeed or not with the challenge, you don't get more. Which is ridiculous. It is ridiculous. You shouldn't get penalized for the refs calling bad things on the field. And they had, I can't remember what team had it happened, but they, I mean, he dominated two challenges and the refs come out. They're like, he got those two rights. So we'll give him one more because we continue.

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To mess things up. Yeah. Ridiculous. So I chose to start. I chose to start. Yeah. That's right. I chose to start J.J. Nelson over Tyreek Hill this week in our listener league. After the very first play of the game for Tyreek Hill, I felt like a lunatic and a fool. But they actually ended up scoring the same amount of fantasy points because Tyree Kill never touched the ball again. One for 68 in a touchdown. I mean, you can't, you can't regret starting him.

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But this is why I didn't start him. It's because I was worried about the total touches. But man, is he good? Yeah, he's tremendous. I'm looking forward to Tyreek Hill moving into the future. Eli Rogers had a big game. I don't, I don't expect that to return to form. He kind of, Antonio Brown was very quiet for him. Antonio Brown caught a touchdown, except Levion Bell was playing against him in fantasy. So Levian Bell threw a chop block and eliminated Antonio Brown's.

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delightful touchdown. The guy that I think I want to mention because he is, you know, a slightly lesser known player who has produced week after week after week with the quarterback change is Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson cannot be ignored and is an absolute startable player. Well, Bryce Petty is dealing with an injury now, though. Well, if Bryce Petty is the quarterback, which I assume he will be, I believe it was just a chest injury. Did you see him get sandwiched? Oh, yeah, it was brutal. They're taking him in to see if he punctured along.

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Right. I mean, that was, that was like from a comedy, a movie comedy about football. When you see the defenders, just the two of them smash a guy. Well, there's never going to happen in real life. You know, it did with Indomacun, Cameron Wake, two of the best pass rushers in the game. It is just a bruise. The X-rays have confirmed nothing else. Yeah, and I do think, I mean, you saw him after that play. He was on the sideline.

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throwing balls and he was okay, but it was a little sore, and then they decided to take him back. And that was when that game was already out of hand. I think if that game had been close, he probably would have played through it. All right. Other good performance this week, Jordan Nelson, Michael Crabtree, Michael Thomas, Sterling Shepard, Taylor, Gabriel, Aldrich Robinson, DeAndre Hopkins. So we're going to talk about Hopkins in a little bit. Anybody you want to highlight before we move on to tight ends and get into the rising stars? I'm looking through the list here.

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No, I mean, Taylor Gabriel continues to get it done. I don't know how you bench him. No, you don't. All right, tight ends. Dion Sims had two touchdowns. I am petitioning the league to award those to Jaya Jai. Because Jaii destroyed fantasy owners, and I don't, I don't stand for it. It destroyed my team. And Jai Jai, I believe, could have had those two touchdowns. Jump! He just needed to jump. Fool, fool. All right, Charles Clay.

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Seven for 72 and a two is down. Yeah. Cleveland. But Clay's had a couple weeks in a row now where he's been targeted and looked good. Camera break, Kyle Rudolph, Ryan Griffin. Yeah. I told people, Ryan Griffin, as soon as Fedorowitz was out. Which are our writers, I think they coined the term the Mad Hatter for CJ Fedorowitz. And I thought that was pretty good. That's fantastic.

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But he was out. Ryan Griffin had eight for 85. The Texans are the number one team in the league for targeting the tight end position. I could change a little bit if they go savage. Rock Oswald loves him some tight ends. Yeah. So there you go. Um, we had, uh, we had Swope. Yeah. Yeah. Swoop. Swoop. When, uh, there it is.

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When Moncrief was out and because of the matchup, against Minnesota with tight ends being very good, I moved up Dwayne Allen and Jack Doyle just a little bit. Yeah, me too. And then it was swoop. There it was. All right. We're going to get into the Raising Cains, Rising Stars. Raising Cains, Rising Stars of the Whig. I had to give a little bingo chance there for technical difficulty.

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Oh, there you go. So mark your bingo cards. Oh, man. Rising stars of the week. I'll jump in here. Sure. I'll jump in here. It's your show. Got a wide receiver. You may have heard of this guy, but you might have been up and comer. He's an up and comer. He's probably been sitting on your bench, actually. Yeah. For quite a few weeks. Oh, must be Brandon Marshall. DeAndre Hopkins. He is about to get Savage.

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Savage. Eight for 87. Here's the crucial number for you, Footland. 17 targets. Tom Savage knows that you have to throw the ball at DeAndre Hopkins, and he will make good things happen because he is an elite wide receiver in the NFL. This was his second highest yardage total of the year. It's his highest since week two. You could tell. I mean, I feel like his, I feel like the helmet.

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was a smiley face emoji for DeAndre Hopkins. His, like, you could just tell he was like, yes, I can play football again. That's because Tom Savage was on the sideline and he had a couple guys on the phone. He had T.J. Yates and he had Brian Hoyer on the phone. And both of them said, yeah, just throw it to Hopkins. I mean, it's, I mean, is baffling that Brock Osweiler has.

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refuses to do this. Well, he tried to. He just threw an interception to Hopkins. He did. He tried to hit him over the middle. Throughout the year he has not done this. But 17 targets, and this comes down to if Tom Savage is the quarterback moving forward. I think he should be. I think that he will be. I'm going to have some faith in Bill O'Brien that he knows they made a huge mistake giving Brock Oswald while they're that money. They're winning despite.

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