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Superflex mock draft exposes host loyalties, Papa Josh's quarterback refusal, producer Borland's picks, Javonte worship, and the staff's self-mocking draft-room chemistry.
I do believe that Charms will get more playtime than he has, and it will be closer to a timeshare. But honestly, he's like, Ken Walker probably could use that, someone else to come in here and take some snaps, take some hits. I think when the real high value touches, like when it comes to the receiving game, I can't remember who, I think it was maybe PFF tweeted it out, but of just like Ken Walker in the last two years is one of the highest rated past catching running backs for them. I just don't think he's going to get that past catching work this year. I think he... Because we got a new quarterback and then Sharps is very capable there, so I'm a little worried about it. It's a different system, but I'm saying I think that I would project that Ken Walker will still get that goal line. I still think it's Ken Walker. There's probably going to be a few here and there where it'll be Charbs, but overall I haven't moved him with the smoke starting to rise of the timeshare.
Well, and you do, if you don't draft them, you do not have to worry about the injury risk. That is the one piece of Ken Walker. JSN goes next. Trey McBride, Chuba Hubbard and Ladd-McConkey drops all the way to 312. I thought that was interesting. He was the one that I would have taken at 303 had I not taken a quarterback. The quarterback run begins. Herbert goes ahead of Mahomes, who goes ahead of Kyler, who goes ahead of golf, four in a row here in the fourth round. Trayvion Henderson to Papa Josh at the 405. Drake May off the board as the second quarterback for the Falcon, who has Burrow already. So Burrow Drake May combination. T. Higgins off the board at 407. So we've got two teams through four rounds with no quarterbacks playing the later round quarterback gamble situation. Producer Borland went with George Kittle in the fourth round. Jason back on the clock Hertz, London Irving.
Nice and balanced. You can go where you want. I would have stayed equally balanced and probably taken George Kittle there, but producer Borland grabbed him. So now I think there's a handful of running backs and wide receivers that I like. The quarterbacks to me, they're in a tier where since I've already got Jalen Hertz, I'm fine playing the hero quarterback, having later guys with a stud. So I'm really just looking at running backs and wide receivers. And when I like a couple at both spots, what I do is I say, well, who do I like further down in which position?
and I look at the running backs that are, you know, a little bit further down the list, and I scroll and I look at some of the wide receivers a little bit further down the list. Honestly, I prefer the running backs further down the list, which is surprising to me. I feel like at this point, I'm tempted because it's a mock to take Brees Hall, but I'm not going to do that. I'm going to go a little bit higher upside here, a little bit riskier, a little bit more fun. I'm going to pull the trigger early on an RJ Harvey.
I don't know if that's surprising to you guys, but the utilization in that offense, I think he could very well be, you know, you look at where Gentie went and Omari and Hampton, I'll take the risky rookie. All right, I'm going to go James Cook here in the fourth round. Mike, I guess you were looking at James Cook. I was. I'm going to stay at running back. Daniels, A. Chan, Mayfield, James Cook. There is, you know, we had conversations yesterday about. Trayvion Henderson, James Cook, right? That comparison in a draft. And to me, it just comes down to do you have a running back already? Like, James Cook is going to be so solid. He's not scoring 16 times, but solid is definitely going to be part of the equation for one of the best offenses in football. I went Cook, Mike, you're back on the clock, Lamar, AJ Brown, Jonathan Taylor. So this is the interesting point of the Superflex where do you, like I still have some top 10 guys.
For my projections who are left, do you play the game of chicken? Are you talking about quarterbacks? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I still have some top ten quarterbacks left. Play the game of chicken there. I wanted James Cook. Some but not many, probably, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a handful of names. Uh-huh. So running back, 80 p-wise on the list. We got Brees. We got Camara, Connor, Mixing, Montgomery. You know, it's, we're thinning out there. pretty fast. The wide receivers, though, man, they're still upside of Marv, Garrett, Tyreek, my guy. You got the quick turn here. Yeah, yeah. So it's, man, I'm going to take, I'm going to take my highest rated wide receiver. I'm thinking about it. I'm going to go with Marv. Yeah, when I took Cook, I was kind of hoping Marv might slip through somehow. He doesn't and probably should have known with Julia not having any whiteouts, Mike.
You went with Marv. Tetaroa McMillan and then Caleb Williams off the board as the second quarterback for Julia. You're back, Mike. I know you're going to have a long wait here. There's a lot of good talent at non-quarterback positions available, but I'm curious where you're going to go. So it's still the same running backs. I don't love them. And I'm going to. Yeah, Breeze Hall, Alam and Camara. For the mock. Connor Mixon. For the mock, I'm going to let it ride with the quarterbacks. And we'll find out if I'm happy about that decision. And not everyone is in on Garrett as much as I am. But I. Is that you wanting to draft Garrett Wilson? Yeah, it was. Wow. It was. Just at this point. If I'm in the fifth round and I can get 170,000 targets, I'm going to take that. And I really.
Going cook, I gambled that I'd get one of Harrison, McMillan, and Garrett Wilson. I thought one of those three would come around. I'm going to go with the guy that I think is worthy of a wide receiver one spot. I've got a long wait. I'm not letting him get by me. I think he's going to be the best pick in fantasy. I'm taking D.K. Metcalfe. My value pick from the value episode a couple days ago. Metcalfe was on my short list. However, I have a wide receiver who is still in my top 12 wide receivers above. D.K. Metcalfe, fancy, personally left on the board. So this is what I was talking about when I took the RJ Harvey pick. I loved Metcalfe. I loved Garrett Wilson. I loved Marv and above all of them. I loved Mike Evans. Yes, he's older. Yeah, you are, you're on that train. I am. And that's not to take anything away from Igbuka, one of my my guys, but a lot of the reasons I like Igbuka were you can't forget.
They also apply to Mike Evans, like Chris Godwin's not there to start the year. McMillan's not there. So do you feel like, though, taking Evans? I don't know. Abuka probably doesn't make it back to you. I don't think I would take both. Usually where Egbuka is, there are other guys I like as well. Right. So I would choose one or the other. Some interesting names dropping right now, and I know everyone's listening, but that's how it goes. Tyree Kiel still on the board. Now he's off the board at 510. That is. That is. He'll be such an interesting. He'll be. He'll be. Nice, Mike. Andy didn't like that. He was a little sour for Andy. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, you guys. I don't like fun. No, I like fun. You guys just, you've had like a few duds in a row. Oh, he's dying on this hill. Oh, man. Bank shot. So bad.
All right, here go to the quarterbacks, Mike. I don't think you're going to get any of your top tier guys back. No. Dak, Brock, Camara, Jordan, Love, James Connor, Tyreek, Cam Ward off the board. That's an interesting pick ahead of some of these other guys. Travis Hunter at 512, C.J. Stroud, Travis Kelsey, DJ Moore, Breeze Hall, Caleb Johnson. Jameson Williams is gone. That was the dream, have him all the way. Bet's got me. Come all the way back. Justin Fields now off the board. Was that part of why you like Gary Wilson? That was the gamble was, does Justin Fields make it back? And I would say in a home league, I bet he does, but Matthew Betts threw my plan into the furnace. So Al Borland on the clock, he has Jamar Chase, Bow, Bow, Knicks, Kyron, Kittle, and Dak. He goes with Terry McLaren who's still unsigned, but.
you know, obviously upside in the sixth round here behind Jameson Williams. It puts Jason on the clock. Jason and Mike still one quarterback deep. We saw, what is that, six go off the board in that run. You had some teams at the back of the draft that had not taken them in the first six or three rounds. So you saw a lot off the board now sitting at the quarterback position, McCarthy, Trevor Lawrence, Michael Pennix, Bryce Young. Tua, Stafford, Gino, the starters left, Darnold. Jason, you're on the clock? Yeah, so had some of the better quarterback slip down to me here, I would have taken a quarterback at this point. When I look at, there's three teams on the turn, two of them have two quarterbacks. There are at least two quarterbacks I like here, so I don't care about taking a quarterback here. Therefore, I'm going to go with a running back or a wide receiver. I was close. I wouldn't have taken them over Mike Evans, so I didn't take them last round, but I almost wanted to for that stack.
Devante Smith is awesome. He's always been a guy I love. He's great for fantasy. And I've got Jalen Hertz. So I'm going to complete the stack and add him. Well, I'm completing a stack as well. Mecca is off the board. I'm taking him to go with Baker. I could have gone Evans the round before, but I went Metcalf and I come back with Egbuka. I feel better about that combo. It's funny. Your decision probably just flip-flop those exact picks. Like you would have ended up, I would have- If I had- If I had- You would have taken Devante Smith in the fifth? No, I think he's saying he would have had Metcalf and Ibook. Yes. Oh, had I gone Evans? I got you. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, that's interesting with us going back to back. Mike took Garrett Wilson last round. Shaping up nicely. You have a quick turn here. Yeah, I wish Fields had dropped Fields or Dak. I didn't figure Dak would make it back, but Fields was my sneaky guy that I was hoping we'll get through. He did not. I'm going to go with the running back who.
I'm growing more and more comfortable by the day because I know what you're going to say. Because I'm not hearing anything about the other players on the team. And I'm taking Isaiah Pacheco. Yeah. I, the Kansas City running back. The fact that no one is talking, really talking about the other players. Oh, I guess we heard negativity about like. For sure? No, no. There was some buzz about it, but Mitchell. Elijah Mitchell, they're saying, has not necessarily. played himself onto the roster yet. Cream Hunt is old, dealing with that stuff. The, where Pacheco looked so bad when he came back. And he came back probably too early from his injury and has had enough time that, uh, that I think that Pacheco is ready to go. So now I'm looking at quarterback. Um, Matthew Betts is trying to confuse me in the chat by saying it's job to lose. And he said, oh, sorry, I met Pacheco.
Bet you're very confusing. I'm going to take an upside pick because it's my QB2. I'm going to take Trevor Lawrence. I like that pick a lot. All right, Trevor Lawrence with Liam Cohen this year. I don't love Lawrence. I have Gino Smith ranked above Trevor Lawrence, but he's my QB2 and I'm going for ceiling here. Trevor Lawrence is at over 4,000 yards, both of the seasons he's been healthy. And you've got Liam Cohen. So you definitely have, and you've got players you love, right? Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas Jr. Maybe even Brenton Strange gets involved. All right, I'm back on the clock. I actually feel like I have a tough choice here. I was hoping Devante Adams would swing back around and I would just make that easy call. Dude, it was a good value. At the 612, Devante? Yeah. Yeah, he ended up going after Pacheco Sutton and then Mike went with Lawrence. I am staring down just like these high ADP question marks. Rashi Rice. How long is the suspension? Joe Mixon. Does he play week one or not at all? Both of those are outcomes.
The next highest ADP is somebody like Quinn Sean Judkins, right, or worthy, who's dependent on Rashi Rice. So believe it or not, with a long wait ahead of me, I'm just going to take my guy. I'm going to take Tyler Warren. I'm going to. Okay, dokey. It's a seventh round Tyler Warren selection after Kelsey McBride Bowers and Kittle. I took him over Leporta. I am going upside with Tyler Warren because I feel just, I feel really cozy with that, and I don't think he comes back to me. And sometimes when you're at the first or at the beginning or the end of the draft,
You have to wait a really, really long time. Now, what is the I hate you message from Kyle? You took Tyler Warren. Oh, so you wanted Tyler Warren. So I was exactly right that you would have taken. Know your league. Yep, know your league. So this is where I'm one of the few teams left with one quarterback. Thankfully, it's Jalen Hertz. I'm fine doing that with a stud. When I look at the quarterbacks left, J.J. McCarthy, Michael Pennix, Bryce Young, Tua, Stafford, Gino, Darnold. Like, I don't want any of them so much over the other. I mean, I certainly have an order to those guys, but I'm fine if the chips fall. There's still other talented players here. I could take David Montgomery. I could take my tight end four, which I think I'm going to do right here, is T.J. Hawkinson. We talked about him getting off to a Hock start. And, you know, when you're talking about the seventh round. Somehow that one was not even one of your misses. That one was a hit. Yeah. Yeah.
They're all hits, Andy. They're all hits. I think you literally said brick after one of them. Well, okay. Well, you know, and then you had to bank another one in. I'm just saying, there's not a lot of switches. The bank was open. When you hit a brick, you hit something. They are all hits, Mike. Thank you. All right. We're all back, baby. I didn't say air ball. Jason goes with Hawkinson at 704. We'll take a break and come back with the rest of this. Super draft. Okay, after Hawkinson in the seventh round here, Montgomery Pickensworthy, Adunzei Flowers, DeAndre Swift, Waddle Olave. The interesting names here, Swift, Aaron Jones, and Tony Pollard. All three of them, very interesting names this late in the draft. All three of them starters, as of now, you know, there is a high value in targets to the running back position. And the... And Swift...
Aaron Jones. And then Pollard's going to have all the work to start the year. Swift was one of the bears. They were one of the places I thought that Brian Robinson could have gone and really thrown an issue into the backfield. If Brian Robinson goes to the Bears, what does that room look like? You mean, you can say, hey, he's going to take some snaps from Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey's still the clear cut number one. So the fact that that that problem has gone away, at least a potential problem. Swift still stays a good value in the seven. Jason has Drake London, Mike Evans, Devante Smith at wide receiver, Buckierving and RJ Harvey as is starting two running backs. Jalen Hertz, T.J. Hawkinson in the onesies, or I guess not the onesies. The one and twosies. The ones and twosies. The ones and twosys. So you're back on the clock, Jay. Yeah, so.
I was really hoping Mix and would fall. It's so funny. In real drafts right now, we're seeing Mix and fall, you know, through the basement, you know, into the earth. So I didn't know if you'd get back to me. I would have taken him as my running back three. I need a running back three, but I don't like the rest of the guys there. So I'll pull the trigger on a quarterback. And even though I think there are safer, maybe even higher upside. combinations like Gino Smith to me is very safe. He's not going anywhere. He's thrown for 30 touchdowns before. I want the double stack. I want I love in his Super Flex league when you can do a double stack. So I'm going to get Michael Pinnock's and hope he takes that leap forward. Pinnix and Drake London with Jalen Hertz and Devante Smith. You can have massive outpournings of points when the wide receivers go off. I'll take Rashi Rice here in the late eighth round. It's worth the risk to me. I definitely would have taken him.
Would you? Yeah, I mean, my starters. That's my wide receiver four. Yeah, they've kind of been figured out. And so Rashi Rice is worth the gamble. It's not like Rashi Rice won't play football. He may not play at the beginning. He may not play at the end, but he will be playing a bunch of football and he's going to be productive. So I'll take Rashi Rice here in the eighth round at the value. So the going with Trevor Lawrence, I can say, I'm okay with the decision, but what played out? with only two quarterbacks going after that, I would have much rather gone George Pickens there. But again, the... Is why you mock? Yeah, you're doing the mocks, and it's the hardest thing to, for sure, know, is like, when will that, you know, the sprinkling? The runs are done, but when those couple sprinkling is the quarterbacks. So, Superflex, you do need a third. Let me just take a little peek. Bryce is there, Tua, Stafford, Gino.
Not overly excited. I only have two running backs at this point. The starter tier has kind of thinned out. It has almost fully thinned out except for the, you know, like Jacksonville, who is the starter? Javante is a starter. Javante is a starter. Javante is a star. Javante. Dude. You're a guy, man. Don't be a coward. My guy? You love Javante. What are you doing? Javante Williams. Don't you do this to me? Mike Wright is Javante Williams' biggest fan. How dare you? Looking at the running backs, like Charbs or Jordan Mason, they're very appealing right here. Looking at the tight end position, which I have not looked at the whole draft. Leporta, ooh, Leporta is very interesting right here. Leporta and David Nogoku trying to look at the turn. Julia only has two running backs, so maybe I will go that direction. I'm going to take Charbs. All right, Zach Charbonny off the board to Mike in the eighth round.
So Pacheco, Lawrence, Chalb's the last three picks. Oh. Ackler off the board at 812. I approve that pick. Stefan Diggs at 901. I like that pick as well. There is value at wide receiver right now on the board. There really is. There's quite a bit of it. So, you know. I think real quick to speak to the Echler thing while you look at your guys' picks, Echler is a name that. you have to highlight. I was hoping he came back. Yeah, yeah. I think everyone in the draft was hoping. Someone's going to take him way above the ADP because it doesn't make sense for, you know, the ADP can't catch up in time. Right. And so you don't want to forget about him and have him too low in your reign. If you've got the UDK, you can actually highlight players where on your sheet, it'll be like, oh, I know they're lower, but I want to target them. All right, Mike, you get to pull the trigger here, ninth round pick, four picks left.
You are still in a position to grab a tight end. I'm wondering if that's where you're going to go. You've got two quarterbacks, three wide, three running backs. What the player really, really want to take is Josh Downs, but the hamstring is concerning at this point. But this late in the draft, so I mean, as my wide receiver four, taking a look at who's taking tight ends, I'm just going to do it anyways. I'm going to take Josh Downs. He can. He can recover on my bench. I'm taking Jordan Mason. Jordan Mason, my third running back off the board. I was hoping he'd slipped through. He did. He'll pair with A. Chan and James Cook. Jason back on the clock has his second quarterback of Michael Pinnock's, the double stack, has Hawkinson. You're free to roam, Jason. Free to go wherever I want, but with only Bucky Irving and RJ Harvey, I do feel a little bit obligated with three good wide receivers to go running back here. Would you have gone, Jordan Mason? He was in consideration.
I don't know that I would have gone. I mean, I want to know if I should go crazy, which to me is Quinchon Junkins. There's a chance that he plays the vast majority of the year, doesn't get suspended. There's a chance he misses a ton of the series. Your guys there, Jay. Are you talking about? Jvante Williams is there. Jason's guy. Don't put that on me. We all know. That Jason Moore is synonymous with Jeffont. I am actually going to take a guy who is. Jason. Jay Sante. Yeah. That makes sense. I'm going to take a guy who might even be more disgusting to you, Mike. And it is one of my guys in the sense that I know you to disagree. You guys do not have Travis E.T.N. as the primary first running back to have from the Jacksonville Jaguars. I definitely do still. Okay, you do. But Jacksonville doesn't. TBD.
Okay, TBD. I do think Travis ETN. Travis T.N will be their starter. He will definitely be their pass catching back. That will not be Tank Biggsby. I know he caught a screen pass. Oh, that must have infuriated you. No, I... When he caught that ball, you must have hated it so much. You must be like... It's unfair because I love Tank Pigsby. No, no, it doesn't sound like it. Giovante. You're thinking of Giovante. I think you guys believe that Travis E.T.N... Oh, you went off the board? Yeah, sorry. Bill Kroski, 9-09, sorry. Yeah, I think you guys have the, you know, good coaching fallacy where you believe tank should be the guy. And so you refuse to believe that it will be the guy they've used in the passing game for years. Who's they? Trevor Lawrence, the Jacksonville Jaguars. Well, he was still involved in the passing game. He was very inefficient on the ground.
I just mean that the day has changed. You're saying the coaching staff has changed, yeah. So TBD. 39 for 254 last year. I do think that the Jacksonville running backs, while disgusting right now, will be a value to someone. Yeah, I agree with that. It's just, I don't think we believe Tank Biggsie should be given the job. I think we believe that he's going to score the most fancy points of a group of committee backs that maybe none of them are startable and exciting. Judkins, Ridley, Samuel. Leporto finally goes. Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill. Bill and 909. Bionkowski. Well, he could play the violin on a piano. Okay. I think it's with a piano. I was waiting. No, he does it on a piano. Uh, Jacoby Myers Cooper Cup off the board at 912. J.K. Dobbins, Najoku, Tracy. We got some more quarterbacks off the board to, uh, the second quarterback off the board for the Kyler manager.
Darnold, the second quarterback off the board for the golf manager. And then Javante Williams, Juan Jennings, Bryce Young. It turns out we were saying all that stuff about Javante, how much Mike liked him, how much Jason liked him. Turns out it's Papa John. Oh, it was Papa Josh. The old one. Papa Josh likes him the most. Okay. Bryce Young off the board, Khalil Shakir off the board. Jason, you're back. You have a chance to, you know, go Travis E, T, and Tink, Biggsby combo. I could in fact do that. There's a lot of players here that I still like. There's wide receivers with upside like Jaden Reed, Jaden Higgins, any of the Jadens. At running back, since ETIN is not a guarantee, Harvey is not a guarantee, I'm going to take one more running back. I'm going to take another shot at a high upside guy, a player that I adore. I think he is an amazing player, whether he will get the opportunity or not for a bad offense.
It's usually a bad bet. That's why he's in the 10th round here. Cam Scadaboo. Rookie for the Giants. Yeah, he did. He played last night. That was great to see him out there. I am depressed. A lot of players I wanted. They all went. Calvin Ridley, Debo, Samuel, Jacobi Myers, all great values at this stage in the draft. Killal Shakir. I don't know why he's going so late. That's probably a wild one. But let me see if this guy's still around. That's how. Nope, he's not. Who are you wondering? I was wondering about Kean Coleman. I must have missed him. I probably read his name and literally missed him going. Where did he end up going? In every live draft, a player gets drafted a second time. It always happens if you've ever done a live one. I do not see Keon Coleman anywhere. Yeah, you can draft Kean Coleman. He's on the board.
You may still. That's why you don't see him. You're searching for him under the running back tab or something. Yeah, that's what I was doing. That's what I was doing. I'm going to take Keon Coleman. The cue is the paper icon. Okay. Oh, okay. No, no. Perfect. Listen up, everybody. I don't know if you can bounce back to my camera for a second. I don't. Okay. Well, go ahead. The draft. If you are using Sleeper on your phone, it says draft. Yeah. It's, oh, I don't know. I don't need this. I'm an idiot. I'm the idiot. Don't forget that part. It says draft. On the desktop, it's a plus. It says draft. Give me the spotlight. Give me the spotlight. Because I know. Sleeper. We love you guys. We've worked with you forever. On web, just change that plus to a draft button. You got the button already. Oh, so you agree. You're in full agreement. It should say draft. Yeah. Yeah. Just make it easy. Because, because the Q, the Q button does have a plus on it. There's double plus.
We don't need a double plus. I like that Andy is straw manning over here to make us forget that he tried to search for Keon Coleman and the running backs. Oh, he's taken. Look, very, very positive Keon Coleman news. Not something that I'm, we're so close to our League of Record draft. There's stuff I almost don't want to say now. Oh my God. I hate that. Like obviously I say it. But it's like we're so close to it. But you hate to say it. And this is one of the things. Keown Coleman, if you listen to the players at that organization.