Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - ADP Price Check, TD Celebrations & Maaailbag!

Yeah. If they want to go that route and they say, okay, well, Amadola, you're out. Now we have Hawkins as our backup. Who has... Backup slot. He would be great. He's been just fine before, yeah. The Cowboys holding Ezekiel Elliott out of OTAs. He suffered a head injury in a minor car accident on Sunday. The impression I'm getting from the news, unconfirmed, is he may have suffered a concussion from the minor car accident, which is a reason to keep him out. It was a head injury of some sort. Do you guys...

Have any concern about this? Just news? No. Jason Garrett expects him back on Tuesday. You don't expect Jeremy Fadden to steal a job during this time? No. No, I know. I think it's one of those things where when it's such a big name and it's such slow news, it's, hey, gosh, did you hear that thing that happened to Zechiel Elliott? And that's the news. All right, Matt Jones. We'll not be at OTAs. He was a healthy scratch most of last year. Didn't appear.

that he was going to be a part of the Redskins' plans. I would expect Matt Jones to be cut. Yeah, and he could land somewhere. Yeah, it's possible, and then he'll land the football on the ground again because he can't stop fumbling. I'm not letting you skip over this Mike Williams news. He's not participating in OTAs. He got hurt the very first day, his back, which you're thinking, okay, it's OTAs, but this is still crucial time for a rookie. I mean, he has no chemistry with Philip Rivers. He has no...

real active knowledge, no physical reps in the offense yet. And we do disagree on this in the office. I still like Tyrell Williams, who is essentially free in drafts because I think that Mike Williams is more of replacing Travis Benjamin and his role in the offense. I think that Tyrell... I think we all agree with... I think we agree with the 1404 draft price of Tyroo Williams. Why not?

Until things become more clear, why not pick him up? Why not have him? But yes, you're right. If all things come the way that we think they will, we disagree on what that will be. And I will just throw this out. Over the last few years, when you've seen kind of rookie wide receivers injured early in many camps, it has not been good for them. Kevin White, anybody? Kevin White? Doxon? Anybody? Josh Doxon. Yeah. By the way, Corey Coleman got banged up yesterday. If you heard that report, it seems like he's going to be fine. Yep.

That was the first off-season little blurb that I went. Like it reminded me of what will happen. Oh, yeah. Because Kenny Britt would have gotten way more air time than he deserves for the next few months if that happened. If something serious happened to Corey Coleman. All right. Martavis Bryant added 10 pounds of muscle. Yeah. And this is simply the off-season. It's the time that we talk about players' weight. But.

I love hearing a wide receiver has added weight, and I also love hearing a running back has cut weight. So that's just how I view when these blurbs come out. So it's just more, more Martavis love from this guy. Yeah, I mean, the 10 pounds of muscle thing is always funny to me. It's like, yeah, he put on 10 pounds. Oh, it's all muscle. Well, I mean, to be fair, we've seen pictures of the man without his shirt on. Yeah. He put on muscle.

All right. Any other news you guys want to get into? It's not like when I'm like, AJ, put on 10 pounds. We look very different. Yeah. Yeah, you'll need to pull the audience on that one, Mike. Maybe some Instagram. Maybe not. All right. Let's get into the main event. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Indeed. As we perform our early offseason ADP.

Price check. Just a reminder. These ADPs have been pulled from fantasy football calculator. And I went with PPR because it's the new standard. I see what you did that. Tricky. ESPN has changed it. Very nice. First guy. Oh, do you got something? No. No. I'm on the list for this game. Derek Henry, he is the backup running back for the Tennessee Titans. DeMarco Murray had a.

Very monstrous season. He was a strong running back one. One of the best who was not in that top three tier. He, Murray could be that again. But Derek Henry, his backup, who some would consider a very high level handcuff, where do you think he's going in PPR drafts? Well, I'm not, I'm not 100% sure in PPR, but I know in standard he's going in the sixth round. And I know this because it is.

One of the most painful things for me. He is, I want him. I want him bad on my team. I really love Eric Henry. But I cannot. You don't want to pay the sixth round. I know. I just can't justify. It's like I think there's a good chance. When you have a guy you love and he's cost prohibitive. Yeah, I think there's a good chance he breaks out this year. And if he does, he's going to be worth it. So you say, oh, okay. But to draft a guy in the sixth, when you're still getting your starting running backs and wide receivers who is a.

Backup is tough. I'm going to guess in PPR he's at the top of the seventh round. Okay, Jay, do you want it? So top of the seventh, let's get a more exact price. And also, do you want me to give you an exact number or something? Yeah, give me an exact number. 7.03. I'll go 6.11. 611 on the dot. Excellent work there by Jason. Go ahead. No, no. That puts them at the running back 28. Okay. I mean, if you want to buy into the best, you know, Mike, you brought up Kevin Coleman and.

having viable production run first team. Look, I don't. We disagree more than maybe anything on Derek Henry this year. Sure. If Murray is injured, Derek Henry is a monster. But if he's not, they love DeMarco Murray. One of the things that I saw so evident last year is despite early season yard per carry and production in the passing game from Derek Henry on paper and on film,

You know, goal line, two-minute situations, important situations. Murray did everything ask of him last year. I don't read into any, you know, I know some of the late season numbers were a little bit different, but so there was a foot injury for DeMarco Murray. The way this team is built is not to lean on a young guy. It's to lean on the horse. And the horse is DeMarco Murray. He did nothing to make me think he's going to dissipate. I have him extremely high in my rankings. And so I'm just very confident in him.

I wouldn't be spinning that 7-0. As a handcuff, though, for Murray, maybe I'd probably spend the seventh round pick or a 6-11, but otherwise I'm probably staying away. That's what I was going to say. From week 11 on, he had 13 red zone carries, and that includes 7-10-zone carries with those highly lucrative goal-line carries, which I think was attributed to Murray going through his foot problem. But you came to the next question, which is, are you going to pay?

a seventh round price for a handcuff to just sit on your bench and as insurance, a seventh round pick? It reminds me, you know, a lot of Tevin Coleman last year where he's a guy that is... He was much later, though. Well, okay, then Tevin Coleman this year. Okay. Where, you know, you've got a guy who I think could be a startable player, you know, in a flex or, you know, in a pinch. You're not going to be...

completely getting a backup who's getting five carries and nothing else. I mean, from week 11 on, you saw their usage changed drastically with Derek Henry. Four of his five touchdowns came in those last weeks. That was after their buy. So, I mean, there are plenty of reasons to believe that it's just a matter of, do you think it's because of DeMarco Murray's foot? And that's why they chose to do that? Or do you think it's because they've got this great back and he was proving himself and they chose to do it there.

is very aging. But obviously, if DeMarco goes down, then Derek Henry is an absolute beast. I think he can do it all. And he would be, you know, capable of being a top five back. But no, I'm not willing in the sixth round to take him. He's not going to be on my roster. Here's a couple guys going right around Derek Henry in PPR drafts. Latavius Murray and Amir Abdullah are going slightly in front of him. And behind Derek Henry got Theoretic.

Joe Mixon, who I fully expect Joe Mixon to be much higher come draft season, and LaGarrett Blunt. I would think that LaGarrette Blunt will be around this area. Would you go? I would not go Henry or any of them. Okay. I know there was a name or two that I would go Henry over, but not over most of those. Because in the sixth, I still need starters. And the other guys on that list are guys who I expect to score more barring a change. You know who Derek Henry's draft position reminds me on?

Hunter Henry, the Henry's. The players are going, oh, Henry, this offseason because both of them are players with, regardless, both have high ceiling, and that's why people are excited about them. Both were rookies last year. Both showed they could do. Both showed that they could do it, but both had very limited workloads. You know, 110 carries for Henry, and then, you know, the touchdowns were there for Hunter Henry, but not the reception total. So I understand why the excitement's there. And.

Hey, there's a chance for it, but I think we both agree that we'd rather grab a starter there. Before I move to my next question, I have a quick question from our candy expert, O'Henry, old person candy. Oh, totally an old person candy. Okay, I've just confirmed me. And just to make sure this is clear, that doesn't make it bad. I mean, I love some old person candy. I love it. But it's classic, but you do not discriminate. No, I don't. I love all candy.

Equally. I'm the fat guy of the three of us. So, you know, give me any of it. But old, oh, Henry is definitely an old. Old Henry. Yeah, there you know. People need to know these things. Moving on. You talked about them already, but Tevin Coleman. Tevin Coleman. Oh, man. In a PPR draft, where is Tevin Coleman going? The backup to Atlanta. Well, maybe it's not the backup depends on how you view it. Oh, you know, it's funny is they just saw Mike Clay's projection on the entirety of the Atlanta offense.

and he had Devante Freeman at about, go, he had to been between 12 and 14 touchdowns on the year. And I'm such a big Devonta Freeman fan that doesn't mean that Tevin Coleman's not going to have very, very good games. I'm going to, I'm going to predict that Tevin Coleman, it's funny because some of these guys have looked at, I don't think I've really looked at him. I'm going to say in a PPR league, he might be going in the early 6th. Oh, see, I was going to go fourth, so I'll go late 4th. Give me a 4-11.

I feel like Jason may be cheating. I am 100% not cheat. Give me 5.11. 410. All right. 410, the running back 18. And as I was going back through Kevin Coleman's fantasy game logs, just how did he finish on the week. You forget how great he was. Eight of 13 games. He was a running back two or better. And that includes an overall running back two, running back seven, running back eight, running back three on the week.

had some absolutely dominant performances. They had that week, if you recall, against the Saints, where Freeman was one, Tevin Coleman was two. So they have that ability in Atlanta. You know, to add to Jason, not that I want to do this ever, but to add to his argument, if you want an argument for Derek Henry, Derek Henry last year, he only had 13 receptions on the season. But.

He had about the same amount of carries last year that Tevin Coleman had. Coleman had 118 last year. Derek Henry was 110. The difference was receptions, right? And the efficiency and touchdowns. But when you talk about let's, I could easily concede a 15% usage increase to Derek Henry, 15, 20%. I could concede that happily. Right. But Tevin Coleman's numbers in efficiency at least show you that having limited work you can produce in fantasy.

It scares the heck out of me to start Tevin Coleman. Yeah. When he was bad for fantasy, he was a... I mean, look at these games. Four or worse. Four catches for 132 yards. 49-yard and it touched, and six carries. So 10 touches on the game dominated that year. Scared the heck out of me. Here's guys going around Tevin Coleman. Sing it to us. Right in front of him, you have the Crow and C.J. Anderson. And then right behind him, you have Eddie Lacey and Mark Ingram.

who I think I just kind of gave you a little tip off. We're going to talk about marking him a little bit later. That's tough. There you go. There's a hint for the game. I wouldn't touch Coleman over the crow. I would take the crow every day. Or the crow is going in front of him. Lacey is going behind him. Any... See, I take Coleman. I think that's a great debate between Lacey and Coleman. This is, again, because of where I'm at in the draft, I would go with Lacey because it...

If I had to pick one of those two, that's the game we're playing. Even in a PPR league? Yes, even in a PPR league, I would. And the reason why, again, I wouldn't take either of those guys there. There are other running backs I prefer. But if I had to use my fourth player and say, which guy am I going to start every week this season, I'd rather have the starting running back for a good offense that's known to run. You know, I think Eddie Lacey is being slept on a little bit by people who, you know,

have called him Fat Eddie for a while, and then he got injured last year. But he still looked good. I don't think he's really lost much. So I would lean that direction. You know, it's very, very similar to the discussions with Derek Henry. But the exception here is that I think there's a regression coming for Atlanta.