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Fantasy Football 2017 - Big Trades, Rising Stars, Rookie Recap + Pre. Wk 1

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Put it in an app for Android or for iOS is a really simple, easy to use, elegant design. I actually love it. I've used it many times over the last few weeks for real live drafts. And I think you're going to love it. It's not for every league. If you play in an IDP league or auction, it's not there. But for 99% of leagues, you take our rankings, put them in there, customize them to your liking.

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Then you go in the draft and we always say on our tips. Well, the rankings are already in there. Yes. You don't have to put them in. No, you don't have. I'm just saying you can restart with that and you can resort them. Gotcha. But the cool thing is, is, you know, we always say track other teams. You know, know who does the team that's near you, do they have?

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a quarterback already, do they not? I used to do this on paper with a pin. Now the draft app, it'll track all that for you as you draft people and check them off. Caveman. Yeah, so it's a great app. Check it out. It's draftday app.com. Leave a review if you like it. Draftdayap.com. I think you'll love it. And we want to thank Seek geek for sponsoring the show. Buying tickets can be complicated and confusing, but there is a simpler way to buy with Seat Geek.

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Footballers for $20 off your first seat geek purchase. All right, let's talk more injuries. Devonsa Freeman. In the concussion protocol, out for the Steelers game. It looks like it was concussion symptoms. They thought maybe it was heat symptoms at first, like getting overheated. But they put him in the protocol. He'll be out for this week, and we'll see what happens. From there, no real major long-term concern. This is cool. Sterling Shepherd. He's presumed practicing.

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That injury that looked so bad ended up being a low ankle sprain and he's back after a couple weeks. Leonard Fournett sat out due to a foot injury. Marquise Lee sticking with the Jaguars. Excellent. Was carted off with an apparent right ankle injury. Avoided a serious injury. I'm hearing high ankle sprain. He was air casted. They carted him off. Paul Pierce stuff. It just was not good, but Lee is a...

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avoided the serious injury um any jason just real quick winner four net not worried yet i'm not worried at all yet this is what he dealt with in college it could it could be i mean he dealt with ankle issues and that is near the foot so maybe but they're all they said is there's foot issue he's sitting out practice carlos henderson wide receiver rookie for the broncos thumb surgery matt harmon loves him but he's going to have to wait

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I feel bad for Matt Harmon when that happens. Like Bruce Ellington last year? Yeah. Love Bruce Ellington. You don't even get a C if what you like is on the field. All right. Pete Carroll said Paul Richardson is going to be out for a bit. AC joint sprain. If you looked at the depth chart for Seattle for week one, it was Baldwin and it was Richardson in the one-two spot. That's a battle right now with Lockett and with other players that could be in that role.

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which includes Jermaine Curse. The catch that he hurt his shoulder on was pretty incredible. He makes big plays. But you saw him go down. You could tell he was hurt right away. I think this will give the opportunity for Tyler Lockett to show if he can get the job done. I think he can get the job done. All right. Let's talk about Jonathan Williams. Bill's running back. Suffered a hamstring injury in the preseason opener.

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But the reports were that he was, he's fine. He'll be back to practice in a couple days. Yeah, I mean, here's a thing. There were two players to me in all of preseason that stood out monumentally. One was Leonard Fournette. The other was Jonathan Williams. He looked like fire in a can. It was amazing. But the knock that has always been. What is fire in a can? It looks amazing. Listen to me. If you're homeless.

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And you're cold. What do you need, Mike? More than anything. Fire in a can. There you go. All right. You need some Jonathan Williams. He's sustaining of life. Yes, exactly. All right. The problem with John Williams all the way back through college has always been his injury. This dude's injury history is, you know, look, Jordan Reed and him are cousins. It's poop in a can, you see. Yes, which completely extinguishes. Actually, I don't think that'll extinguish. Uh-oh. That'll just explode.

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This is bad news to me. I realize that they're saying it's a small injury, but there's always these small injuries that keep him out. It's worth monitoring because he is a high, high, high upside guy. I did. That's exactly what I was thinking of. I heard of Billy Madison. It's a poop again. He called him. This is a famous. All right. Families. More Andrew Luck News for those who are just, you know, glued to their screens.

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with their earbuds in trying to figure out the latest little rumor glued to the screen with their ears with their earbuds in it's going well it's going well moving on andrew luck's week one availability jim mercy acknowledged the basic quote was this we've always known it was borderline for him in terms of being ready for week one however it's been confirmed that he is now throwing it has been confirmed that his arm strength is there it's just a matter i my assumption

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And I've had this injury before. He has the partially torn labrum. My assumption is, is he healthy enough to take a hit? Because if you saw the offensive line, you're going to take a hit. And you don't want to put him in there where the first time he falls on that same shoulder, you're back in the same boat. And so I'm still optimistic that we see him. You know, they didn't sign a veteran quarterback. They tried to. They couldn't. Tolls in, not good.

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Real bad. Two for five. You've got, you know, you've got Cam Newton dealing with the same, you know, issue shoulder surgery. And he was throwing a month ago. You know, he was in practice throwing quite a while ago. And he is right now working in the red zone drills, but he's not even back to full team participation. Yeah, full team participation. Those are.

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Yeah, I mean, they both had shoulder surgery, but they are different injuries. The labrum and the rotator cuff are different injuries. So I'm not going to hold that standard to Andrew Luck. Sure, but I believe that this shows that he is way behind where they want him to be. Tavon Austin, hamstring, probably won't play in any of the preseason games. Josh Doxon, expected to miss at least another four to five days of camp. Come on, Josh Doxon. And then Roberto Aguio has been cut.

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by the Buccaneer. Second round pick. Trade it up for a kicker. Did not turn out in the Sebastian Janikowski kind of way. Yeah. The Bears claimed it, you know, he stinks because he cannot handle the pressure. And I wonder if you, now that the pressure of being the number two pick is off, you still wonder if he can kick. Because in practice, this guy doesn't miss. And you put him in a game and he doesn't make it. Well, I mean, it's like shack and his free throws, right?

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All reports said Shaq would, he would drill or he would drain all his free throws in practice. But then once the lights are on, yeah, he's probably really excited to go to the Bears because there's no real pressure. He's not going to be kicking game winners. You know, this is easy. We're down 12. Who cares? No one cares. Poor Bears fans. I love you, Bears. Weekly rewind. All right, I think with the time left we have on today's show, we're going to dive into some of the.

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the rookie recap, so to speak. The impressions we got from some of these rookies out there, anybody else that you guys want to talk about, and we'll jump into a little mailbag, answer footclan questions, and get you ready for the season. So let's start with, you want to start with the rookie running backs? Sure. Leonard Fournette, we talked about him. Nine rushes, 31 yards, and a touchdown looked great. Jason's kind of gotten into him. Mike, do you have anything you want to add about Leonard Fournette, or should we talk, Dalvin Cook?

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No, he looked very strong and looked like the best running back on the team as you would expect. Okay. There's nothing really to add. Dalvin Cook, five times he rushed for 13 yards, four of four targets for 30 yards in the Vikings preseason. He got work. Man, they put into work right away. The opportunity is what I love about this. I don't think Dalvin Cook looked anything super special. He did not strike me as, you know, the same way that Mixon and Fournette did.

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But what is really important is for a team like the Minnesota Vikings who have a quarterback that checks down. I mean, if you combine all the running back targets last year, you're talking close to 70 receptions at the running back position. Dalvin Cook is very capable. I mean, he's talented as a pass catching back. And so the fact that four targets early on went to him, caught all of them.

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If he's used in that role, he will be a valuable fantasy asset. For sure. Love Dalvin Cook. Having him in my top 20. It's one of the reasons I don't love Kyle Rudolph the way you too love Kyle Rudolph. I think he's going to be used. He's going to be not spectacular. Last year, a lot of injuries, people off the field, and no real reliable weapon like Dalvin Cook. You had guys that could catch it if you threw it at him, but not the kind of player that Dalvin Cook is.

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Since we're there, I just want to throw this out. The offensive line that I've been expecting improvement, they did not look good. And Sam Bradford, who I've been championing for, did not look good. So that's a situation coming in future weeks. I'm going to be watching Minnesota, see if they can get there. Yeah, as you say, I guess that's a good transition to kind of say, look, week one, limited reps for a lot of these players.

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We're trying to highlight situations for you to watch in week two and three that we will continue to watch. These are not conclusions. These are basically some early impressions. Observations and that's it. Yeah. So Samage P. Ryan could have gone better. Could have gone better. What exactly was Matt Jones problem in the...

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the offense. Matt Jones had a fumbling problem. Ah, and Somaget P. Ryan decided to come out, fumbled the ball. Somaget P. Ryan apparently has a fumbling problem because he's reportedly had a little ball control issues in practice, came out into live game situation, fumbled, dropped a pass, essentially right after that. Now, Jay Gruden has, he's not. He hasn't gotten him on the butt. He hasn't jumped in the bus.

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just yet. He gave him the support saying it's going to take him some time. But Robert Kelly. Ultimate draft kit, right? We just, we did. He's in there as a value. Yes. Robert Kelly is going to be the starting running back for the foreseeable future because Robert Kelly, while he may be unspectacular, he does not fumble the ball. That's a good summary of Robert Kelly.

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That is. And you should take it from. He's going to get opportunity on a great offense. Take it from Mike. Mike loves. Yes, I do. So if Mike endorses Robert Kelly in his current role, book it. It hurts. It hurts me, but it's what's happening. All right. Saints, third round running back. Alvin. Camara. Camara rushed four times for 35 yards. Really?

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To me, the impression that I had of Camara was stronger than I thought he was, right? You bring in a guy and you kind of label him with AP and Ingram there as the third down back. I like the strength I saw from Camara. I like the vision, the speed we already knew he had it. So very good debut for Camara. Showed you that, you know.

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he's going to have a role on this roster. They wanted to see what he could do. I mean, their first two plays were back-to-back handoffs to Camara, and then he had a full Madden highlight where he ran into the line. He's just trucking and truck and keeps his feet moving somehow and then ends up taking it out to the outside for a big gain. And Camara will never be a three-down guy, but his skills will be utilized to the fullest with the Saints. Yeah.

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